Hi there,

- Projects and startups come from this forum and other contacts.
- Decision making is made on an open source model: Anyone can make a suggestion but it's a matter of convincing others to join in too.
- 50% of the income is reinvested.

Even if BTC gets outlawed, there's a safety in numbers. When there are millions of us, we cannot be stopped.

The old system of national states is genuinely corrupt and needs to be replaced. Until now, nothing has been powerful enough to offer an alternative. Cryptocurrencies do.

Anyone? I really think discussing Bitcoins through Hangouts could generate a lot of traction.

Feedback please.

Hi there,

Could someone please set up a Google Hangout to discuss Bitcoin related matters and post the link(s) in this thread? I think open video conference forums could be a good way to build the community and spread the global network.

Kind regards

Corner

Hi there,

I posted a project on IndieGoGo. Let's hope it will be successful and mark the start of a new era!

Let's pool our resources and build a thousand Bitcoin businesses now!

Corner

http://www.indiegogo.com/Bitcoin-Startup-Pool?a=204128&i=addr



Our Story

Bitcoins were invented by Satoshi Nakamoto a couple of years ago and gained traction recently. This new cryptocurrency will reinvent the world, for good and for worse. Nothing will ever be the same again. We're talking the biggest technological revolution since the invention of cash money.

The Bitcoin society is fairly anonymous, for good reasons. The government will want to get rid of this new thing but it will be to no avail. We have seen in the past that nothing can stop peer-2-peer technology.

You can say the Bitcoin community consists of libertarians, free market advocates, entrepreneurs, inventors, technicians and let's be honest a couple of outsiders. However, the technology behind the technique is sound.

This project in particular aims to create a website that works like a conveyor belt for establishing new online startups. We need a hub where we can pool resources (coders, investors, admin staff, sales people etc) to spit out startups on an industrial scale.

You enter your skills which are then matched with the people who have the know-how you need. Everything is paid in bitcoins (BTC), from the salaries to the services.

The Impact

The impact: a completely reshaping of the world as we know it. Governments cannot, I repeat cannot stop peer-2-peer technology. They had a hard enough time when it was about file sharing, now that it's about a new type of currency the effect will be absolutely massive.

In the end, this will mean the end of the current political system of national states that has caused so much trouble (wars, discrimination, oppression a la divide and conquer). Instead, the cloud will take over the world's infrastructure (roads, broadband etc) and politicians will become just a nasty memory from the past. This could take a couple of hundred years to achieve though.

What We Need & What You Get

We need 10000 USD to get started. Just a bit of seed money to initiate the new technological revolution. The money goes to the coders, sales people, admins, basically you and me, everyone who gets involved.

Since BTC is deflationary in its nature (in the long run) you will actually get your investment back in bitcoins (the equivalent value of your donation) in a year from now.

Other Ways You Can Help

Download the bitcoin client, talk about us, tell your friends. This shizzle is coming and it's for real.

Apology accepted. Insults provoke, provocations cause repercussions and so on ad infinitum, ad nauseum so flaming online is rarely a good idea.

What I meant is there's no business sector in Somalia. There are no shopping malls, no internet cafés, no supermarkets, no car sales companies, no restaurants, no plumbers, no mining companies, no chimney sweepers, no helicopter rental firms, nothing at all. There are millions of poor and unemployed people, is all. That's the real problem, not the absence of a government.

I am not a black panther party member and I may not be who you think I am. I am not a long haired hippy type, I'm not a rebel and I'm not an outsider. I am in fact a business man with contacts in high places and I endorse this bitcoin thing fully. And so should you. A surprisingly high number of CEO's resent the idea of the national state.

Ha : ) Yeah. I should try to smoothly get back to the original topic. Anyone out there need admin/hr/b2b sales/project management services?

The problem with Somalia is not the absence of a government but the absence of a well developed private sector.

I agree with you. In terms of the absence of governments I just say good riddance. We don't need them and if we do, there's a workaround which spells cryptocurrencies. You're not just a dreamer, you've seen the broader picture.

No, there will be no involuntary taxes in the future. Possibly voluntary ones but they might be known under a different name.

No, that's where you're wrong. The open source community has shown the power of decentralized networking solutions when it comes to decision making.

I didn't single-handedly outsmart the system - the bitcoin and open source community did.

I was calling you a troll because you insulted me and posted spiteful comments. Are you one of those sad people that only feel big when they flame on the internet? Dude, that’s so year 2000. Grow up and stop flaming and provoking.

And yes, the governments will actually dissolve and/or be replaced by a sort of cloud society.

We don't need taxes, that's just how it is. It is unfortunate that we have become so dependent on a corrupt system, but BTC will allow for a new system to grow that will be a 1000% more efficient and peaceful.

I resent your condescending, ignorant reply and all that goes with it. Begone, troll, off you go to another forum. The tinfoil hat is yours and yours alone.

I advocate a peaceful transition from the current system to a system based on cryptocurrencies rather than cash transactions.

We have allowed ourselves to become dependent on the political system and thus on evil itself. Obviously, if we would lower the tax rate overnight, there would be massive negative consequences. Hence, that's not the way to go about it. But if every individual increasingly starts trading in BTC rather than USD, we will slowly be able to reach new ground. Bit by bit, bitcoin by bitcoin we will exchange an involuntary system for a voluntary one.

Eventually, the BTC system will be valued so highly, work so efficiently and be worth so much that it will not be much of an effort to buy out the public infrastructure. There is in fact nothing stopping multinational corporations from maintaining infrastructure, they have shown in the past that they can administer very complex systems, i. e. there is nothing that the public sector can do that the private sector cannot, rather the contrary.

I do not accept your tone and language and I have reported you to the moderators.

No we don't. We have been born into a corrupt system so we don't see the obvious elephant in the room. The politicians argument is, just like yours, that we need taxes to sustain this and that, to provide welfare for poor people etc. But poor people are often poor because of taxation. Strong and healthy people tend to find good jobs and they make enough money not to be bothered by taxation. If you have reached or exceed the average US salary of 50000 USD you're fairly well off and the system benefits you. You have breached the surface so to speak.

However, for the weak, sick and feeble minded the situation is different. They may not have the power to reach the surface and will thus be held back perpetually by an ever increasing tax rate.

You do realize than when the first settlers colonized the West, the taxation rates were negligible? We had all this land to ourselves and we screwed it. Little by little, year by year, we let the politicians raise the taxes. Had we kept on this way for much longer we would no longer be the land of the brave and the free but just another Europe or China.

Fortunately, Bitcoins were invented before we reached that level of taxation. We can now build a new parallel system which will eventually buy out the old one, hopefully in a relatively peaceful transition, just like the first 15 years since internet got big have been characterized by a remarkably smooth transition.

Yes, we need roads, we need fire fighters and some of that stuff. However, it should all be financed privately. Now, thus far the private sector has been too weakened (because of extortionate taxation) to mantle the responsibility for the infrastructure but with the advent of the BTC we will eventually see private roads, private fire fighting teams and so on only.

Because it lays in man's faith to become truly individual and only when we are truly individual are we able to fully cooperate with others.

There you have it : ) Someone who catches my drift. There's sick money to be made here and a new world to be built. Let's start anew.

They will thrive dude. Everyone needs a change of system, even parts of the established banking system are looking at this now.

Many of us have sensed that the system we live in is corrupt but it's been difficult to do anything about it. The core problem is taxation. Taxation is theft and as every transaction is taxed, we loose money in each and every transaction.

You cannot and should not build a distribution system of stolen goods. Unfortunately that's what the politicians have been trying to do for so long. Distributing stolen goods (money taken from the people through taxation) only benefits parts of society and only temporarily. The net effect is always negative since the cash were stolen in the first place.

We need to replace this system, which essentially builds on theft and has its roots in feudalism and tyranny with something new. BTC is that very new, shiny thing that will rock our world.