The point is not to see some tits, the point is to attract girls into #bitcoin-assets, and force them to start using bitcoin and gpg and IRC and such.

Make sure you are going to the right site, the new website is mpex.ws.


Well, they did in the past employ MPOE-PR to post on this forum. But that was an open arrangement know to all.

Clearly they are busy doing something, and they still have a ton of capital, but they have no revenue after so many months. I feel like they are trying to reinvent the wheel, while they have enough money in the bank that they could just buy whatever they wanted. I guess it is better to hold onto the money and be careful than like so many other bitcoin companies who spend all their money and disappear.

I think he was referring to the CoinBR website. It is true it does not list a name and address, but it does have an email and an IRC nick (which is associated with a gpg identity in the WoT) which you can contact for more details.

Do you have any other arguments besides the 30 btc registration? I already addressed that: I use a broker, I have never paid a 30 btc fee to trade.

Quite the opposite of what you are suggesting, they have been adding new offerings the past few months. To me, it looks like they are growing, not fading away.

Do you have any reasoning behind this opinion? I don't think anything has changed negatively for the exchange, why would they shut down?

If you don't care, you can just stop posting in this thread. Those of us who do care will not miss you.

On the topic of advertising, it will be interesting to see how this new company does. On the one hand, it seems like a natural use of bitcoins to pay for internet stuff, like advertising, on the other hand advertising can be a tough market, most people have banner blindness and just ignore whatever ads they "see" on webpages.

From the latest MPEx report, F.DERP should finally be listed this month. There is also an upcoming listing of an advertising network.

Oh, and MPEx made a bunch of money, most of it from new signups. The low trading volume is probably due to the week they were offline rebuilding their servers.

For the Nth time, you can use a broker to avoid paying the 30BTC registration fee. Do you also refuse to trade stocks listed on the NYSE because you don't want to pay the $1M (currently about 1750 BTC) it would cost to get a seat on that exchange?

Looks like a good time to buy some shares for cheap.

Yada yada, lots of screenshots etc etc.

What is your point?

It seems like it should be obvious that Full Power Asia Investment is a shell company set up in Hong Kong to work around the legalities of having a US based company selling equity shares. Brandon and Benny are brothers, so it makes sense that Ben would ask Branny for a reference to a firm that sets up companies in Hong Kong, thus they both end up with shell corps created by the same person. I don't see any wrongdoing here?

The structure was stated openly up front, investors get a portion of the company, Branny gets the rest as payment for doing all the legwork in setting this thing up. If you think he is taking too large a share, then don't invest.

Okay, I started a new account a few months ago, but now this is the only account I am using, so I am not a sock puppet. I think I have mentioned in the past I am PeterL on Freenode.net IRC.

Could you go into more detail of what you mean by "actual securities"?

AsicMiner was lucky to be basically the first company to produce a working ASIC. But now there are many more people in the market and they just can't repeat the success they had before. Do they even give out dividends anymore?

On the one hand you are focusing way too much on dividend, you should be looking at earnings instead, and on the other hand mining will yield more than 8m btc in the future (due to fees). Overall, the estimate is that mining rewards will go down in the future, while there is no such restriction for trading fees.

Based on historical examples, MP's lemonade stand would raise several thousand. In your example, it would then sell 5 cups of lemonade for $2.50. And then it would be worth several thousand (plus $12.50 - whatever ingredients cost), because it would still have several thousand bitcoins on hand.

AM's best days are behind it, s.mpoe has a potential for huge future growth. As they say, past performance does not guarantee future success.

In 2011 I was in a gun store, they had an SKS in decent shape for 120 usd out the door with ascesories. I didn't know much about the SKS then, so I passed. Now the same gun would sell for at least 400 usd. I still regret not buying it.

Actually, TAT is not involved in MPIF. Originally he was invited, but he declined. That position was given instead to Jurov.

Nah, I am here to have a friendly conversation about a topic that interests me: bitcoin investments.

You are focusing on the stocks, but there are also funds and futures available.

Mircea Popescu seems very intent on increasing his bitcoin stash, but at least to me he seems to be doing so in an honest way. MPEx has history, they have been around longer than any other bitcoin stock market. While this does not ensure they will not run away with the money tomorrow, it at least shows they are thinking in the long term. If you believe that the future of global finance is going to work through bitcoins, then in the long run it is better to run a working exchange than to scam a few bitcoins now.

Do you have any proof that the exchange is manipulated?

I won't go into my analysis of each stock right now, but I think there is value in each stock listed; perhaps not what they are currently trading at, but still non-zero.

WRT point 4, synthetic stocks, are you referring to the D series of stocks? I wouldn't call them ponzi schemes, but they appear to be naked shorts. Personally, I would not buy them, for the twofold reason that it is risky to get into buying naked shorts (and I am not that risk tolerant), and more importantly, I do not think any of those companies will return invested capital (So in that respect I view these companies from the same side as Mircea, who is shorting them).