Some thoughts before the sleep  I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly. HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code. What I want to say: 1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network. 2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them. Curious, what devs and community think about it? I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily. Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end? EDIT: some typoes edited Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow, but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples. Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus. For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends? So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind. I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its. Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs. Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately. Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses? Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner? It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming? P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal. P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.? P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess Sorry. Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter by your signature, The unique reason to low price of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM. By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe. I invested in NXT and NEM mostly, a little bit in HZ. I see a roadmap for both, not for HZ, so this way I asking about future plans of HZ. Why do you think HZ could be more valuable than NEM? What are benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.)? The first benefits is than Hz have prices more low than Nxt, The distribution of Hz was better than Nxt did it, About roadmap is it https://horizonplatform.io/about/development-roadmap/, Maybe the devs of Horizon will give you an explanation more clear. HZ could be more valuable than NEM because Hz have less supply than NEM does but it need new exchanges the devs are working on it, About benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.), I could say that alls are really good projects. Seems roadmap is a little bit old from your link OK, let's wait what devs have to say This is acount NHZ-2B4Y-6JVX-VMB7-G8WSS dumping everytime, when balance reaches 1M or above. Seems he is running 139 nodes. Do you think he will stay in community and contribute something to HZ after distribution ends? I don't think so 139 nodes from 805 nodes is 17% of nodes running. Imagine what dump will be after distribution ends I just noticed that, Anyway He probably will run less nodes but the rest will be filled by anothers new nodes. How? The price could rise with less hz on market, Peoples will know that is more difficult to get Hz, It will push prices up, New projects could be released and more peoples will be supportig Hz. I hope see on 2016 Hz on Top 100 at least. |
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Some thoughts before the sleep I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly. HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code. What I want to say: 1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network. 2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them. Curious, what devs and community think about it? I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily. Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end? EDIT: some typoes edited Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow, but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples. Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus. For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends? So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind. I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its. Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs. Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately. Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses? Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner? It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming? P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal. P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.? P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess Sorry. Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter by your signature, The unique reason to low price of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM. By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe. I invested in NXT and NEM mostly, a little bit in HZ. I see a roadmap for both, not for HZ, so this way I asking about future plans of HZ. Why do you think HZ could be more valuable than NEM? What are benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.)? The first benefits is than Hz have prices more low than Nxt, The distribution of Hz was better than Nxt did it, About roadmap is it https://horizonplatform.io/about/development-roadmap/, Maybe the devs of Horizon will give you an explanation more clear. HZ could be more valuable than NEM because Hz have less supply than NEM does but it need new exchanges the devs are working on it, About benefits of HZ against NXT or NEM (features, projects, community, etc.), I could say that alls are really good projects. |
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Some thoughts before the sleep I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly. HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code. What I want to say: 1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network. 2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them. Curious, what devs and community think about it? I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily. Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end? EDIT: some typoes edited Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow, but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples. Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus. For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends? So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind. I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that New wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its. Let me say straight, there will be less, more less community after distribution ends. What unique HZ has comparing with NXT? New wallet 5.0 is old NXT wallet 1.5.x (correct me if I'm wrong). Even if HZ devs will create killer app, who will marketing it? It can be easy inculded in NXT with bigger community and more devs. Do we know how big HZ community is? Aproximately. Devs are familiar with NXT code. If there some big projects under the hood, why not to get help from bigger NXT community, marketing and devs for project to succeed and to reach bigger masses? Your comparison of cars, is not correct for crypto decentralized environment. BMW and Suzuki both have engines, wheels and glasses. But who is the winner? It would be nice to hear from devs, what future of HZ they see. Is there any roadmap or feature or project comming? P.S. I don't try to FUD in here, I just want that the real Crypto 2.0 (NXT) become stronger, attracting talented HZ devs and community members to work together for the bigger goal. P.P.S. BTW, when distribution will end approx.? P.P.S. I'm not native english speaking, so my thoughts could be seen as a little mess Sorry. Besides of Nxt I see that you are a Nem supporter by your signature, The unique reason to low price of Hz is that it have only 2 exchanges but if it hit at least the same than NEM, Hz could be more valuable even more than NEM. By the way the distribution could end on a month aprox. Maybe. |
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Some thoughts before the sleep I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly. HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code. What I want to say: 1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network. 2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them. Curious, what devs and community think about it? I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily. Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end? EDIT: some typoes edited Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow, but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples. Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus. For me, nodes problem is not very important, comparing with future roadmap of HZ. I feel HZ will slowly die, because meantime we have some community because of nodes bounties. Do you think there will be bigger or the same community after distribution ends? So, my thoughts are, that without closer collaboration with NXT community, there is no future for HZ, despite we have some good devs and maybe some people with projects in mind. I think that will be the same community after distribution ends but the number of nodes will decrease because with low prices run nodes Hz 24/7 is difficult, But I could say the same nobody knows really, Remember that new wallet 5.0 is coming after that the distribution end, So if any dump eventually anybody will buy its. |
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Some thoughts before the sleep I don't see future for HZ, after distribution will end. There will be left few nodes which is not enough for keeping network secure and working perfectly. HZ is the young brother of NXT, always few steps behind the new NXT features. HZ do not have its unique features comparing with NXT, personally I think, with all respect to HZ devs, they are wasting their time trying to adopt old NXT source code for HZ. Maybe there are some projects under the hood, but these project could be done perfectly with NXT code. What I want to say: 1. Why not to swap all existing HZ with NXT or swap with the new currency unit, using NXT monetary system, if we want to keep HZ as separate project (example is Nautiluscoin)? After this, there is no need to operate and secure separate network, all can work on already operating and secure NXT network. 2. If we could move to NXT, NXT community would be stronger with addition of HZ community, devs could cooperate with NXT devs, making NXT stronger, upcoming projects, if any, could be easy done with NXT, attracting both NXT and HZ communities to them. Curious, what devs and community think about it? I think we all can agree, when distribution will end, there will be less interest in HZ and a lot HZ will probably be dumped. And what will be then? What the unique roadmap fo HZ? With swap we could stop big dump after distribution, if there are some upcoming projects, which can be done with NXT easily. Could we discuss this, while HZ is in some silent mode and distribution reaching the end? EDIT: some typoes edited Please let me put a simple example, All cars have tires, Glass, Engine, They serve to the same without elaborating at some point they derived of a few that gave rise, So on Crypto too it's possible that Hoizon can have a future equal or even better that Nxt. Maybe not tomorrow, Neither a day after tomorrow, but maybe in the future so Hz have to go step by step. The idea is not have thousands of different models, But enough to meet the needs of peoples. Your number 2 point is very interesting but could be with the nodes too, For example Hz can cooperate with NXT with some nodes and Nxt can do the same and so both clients can are running forging on the same node doing both networks more safe and bigger. This strategy can be applied not only with Nxt but with others coins. Besides stay on TOP 100 should be an important focus. |
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Rex your insults get completely out of place, You intended to do is something completely illogical, Meaningless, You always wanted 100 % control coin, Even a 5 % could be excessive for a Dev. But anyway good luck for you too Rex. I hope that soon another dev takeover NYC with the changes that are required meanwhile everyone could hold his coins.
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@Bit1: 200 million users doesn't mean that nobody uses dollars anymore.
@Andrea Agree, But 200 million users doesn't mean neither to take over the monetary system, Which it is what is meant by you expressed above, Designing of an ideal currency to take over the monetary system. So it would be better to talk to supplement the monetary system instead of talk about to take over the monetary system as such. Believe me sometimes it is better to bring in your pocket some dollars more than gold or even BTC on your account. Straining a bit more than I should, Be totally dependent on machines like to based blockchains system , Bank systems, Etc to buy or sell something for logic is risky in many ways. So tangible instruments of value should always be at par with those systems to ensure efficiency and freedom that a monetary system should provide. The very opposite effect should be if exceeded in a growing number of such instruments unbalanced so as in all there must be a balance. |
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Hi Andrea,
You appointed that: designing of an ideal currency to take over the monetary system, Please let me say you that you could reconsider this idea, The monetary system have centuries working and so will could keep speaking only about the Money and Cash, Be limited to only a way of buy or sell could be a thing very risky to peoples, Not even BTC itself could be only used , Therefore Gold, Cash, The coins of each contry, Certains Crypto-coins, Etc, Could be used on market and its should try to coexist always.
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Yes, In fact I added this to looks died instead of dead coin for that reason, In the other hand, Honestly, I dont think that the takeover work to this coin, So it could be on another list very soon. |
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Divvy(XDV) Added to Others Coins alives listed here for statisticals purposes and quickly reference.
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NUKE Added to looks died.
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BitCrystal is having some movement seems, but i don't think that will change too much from being a dead coin (maybe a sudden revival but IDK)
Ok, Thanks for advice, Afortunately I have it on: Others Coins alives listed here for statisticals purposes and quickly reference, So I think that I could leave it on the same list for a while. |
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Hello Community,
As a fellow developer of 3 coins and Steak Cloud I would like to shed some light into the stresses of crypto development.
It's very easy for a coin dev to feel unappreciated, it's important to note that we do not get paid for the work we do and are more often than not gambling our time to help communities make profit rather than ourselves. Before you argue that point with pump and dump coins... it's very easy to tell those devs apart when you are a dev yourself and the sad reality is that communities do not know the difference between honest devs and scam coins and often demand things from devs without any regard of these facts and this is often why we see devs abandon coins.
Lets give @Rex the bennifit of the doubt and yes what Rex said was a out of order but it is very easy to get to that point when the community you are working for or members of that community throw your work in back your face, couple that with very little sleep and boom.... we get to where we are now!
@Rex I reached out to NYC as I like the concept of the coin and have a long standing love affair with New York as such I would like to offer my help and support in moving this coin forward. A DM or reply here is very much anticipated.
Kind regards
Ricky
Ricky-Steak Cloud Team, Very good, For how long? One more week? You could consider do a new takeover if there is not answer of REX on that lapse, Im very sure that REX will understand that. This coin need an decrease on ratio thru a swap and turn this to POS, Everybody want that, I guess. |
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DARKCRAVE(DCC) Added to Died coins list.
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shrimpdigger is right,
Besides it coin need a new dev with better ideas. Unfortunately REX only want 100% of the coins and centralize its, He said that the coins on market only will be the hold for himself and the organizations non profit, So rest of peoples dont will have coins holding, Its is crazy, It is like to: shut up and take my money.
He want that everybody sell alls NYC to have all control of the coin.
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