Hey, thanks for your interest.

So we're working with people across different forums. Unfortunately if someone is going to leave feedback in the original thread, it will most likely be a negative experience they had working with us. Since we haven't had a negative encounter thus far, there is simply no feedback. If you'd like to be the first, you can PM me and I'll go over next steps. After you're ready, you can report back here.

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2 more campaigns to setup. PM me first come first serve.

Not exactly how it works. Assuming we were running blackhat ads, the account would be banned but the account holder can always create another account. As long as they're advertising something whitehat that is completely different, the ads will go live.

Hi, do you have telegram? Thanks


So we're looking for partners to help setup Google Ad campaigns. By signature, I think you mean on Bitcointalk? I have never tried that. Who do you recommend as a manager? Thanks

That's a good point. If anyone on Reddit were scammed by us or anyone else, they'd receive a ban from that subreddit and possibly Reddit itself.
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Have a few more campaigns for August to get setup, PM if you're interested.

Have a campaign to get setup. Reach out if you're interested in $140/week.

Crypto related e-commerce.

Oh yeah we're definitely still violating Google's TOS but running in restricted niches carries a far higher risk of being banned then gaining an unfair advantage. We wouldn't be offering $20/day if we were running anything restricted.

It's the only way to have a truly unique campaign setup on Google. If you run multiple campaigns for similar websites on the same keyword then that's a conflict of interest so the MCC will get a warning and the ads will be paused.


To ensure that nobody requests $50/day. As I said previously, this was for running restricted niches as per Google. Still not BH but these come with a high risk of having the ad account banned.

Yeah that was our previous thread. We're not able to provide $50/daily anymore as some of our clients were running in restricted niches allowing for higher payouts across the board.


If that were the case then you'd see those posts by the people supposedly banned by our illegal adverts.

We're going in circles now. If I am running a scam then the client should not be my client and end the campaign creation right there...

There's nothing stopping you from doing that. You'd soil a blossoming business relationship that's paying $20/day for minimal effort. You could also copy our keywords, ad copy and create your own campaign with the same designs that we're running. I wouldn't want to compete with us but you could try it. Google is a long game. If you can sustain that then by all means, otherwise I'd stick with the $20/day.


You'd have to be blind to let someone run ads promoting guns, drugs or anything else obviously blackhat. It's the responsibility of the account holder to vet the ads being put up. I'm not disputing any of this but I feel like this is common sense when dealing with strangers. I do appreciate the videos and articles you've linked. Not sure why you have so much experience in this field but not everyone is trying to run a money mule operation.

Yeah, you're right. Using someone elses card to run my business' campaign is a bit unorthodox. As others have mentioned, using a debit card from a new checking account with a small amount is a fine way to counter this. However, Google charges in batches of $350 and we send the first payment before the ad is even running to help build trust.


That's not at all what I said. I said there is of course the inherent risk of the ad account being suspended but this is a possibility when running ANY campaign on a new account. In the event this did happen, the ad account would not be able to run similar campaigns to mine. Running a different campaign would more than likely start running, assuming billing is valid.

We don't need to reveal anything more than we already have. Those that choose to work with us are free to ask any questions they like and receive payments from our business PayPal... Revealing what agency is circumventing Google's policies may not be the smartest idea for us.


Yeah, this would work fine for us assuming you can get our payment transferred within a few days so no payments get declined. Google tends to ban accounts with virtual cards like Brex & Privacy because people abuse the free $350 Google initially provides before charging the payment on file.

I don't need to disclose my niche to you to advertise. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear but all I need to say is these are whitehat campaigns and if that changes when I'm setting up the campaign then sure I'm a scammer.

The lack of professionalism is absurd and once again that leads me to believe you had a very rough time with Google Ads. Instead of trying to gatekeep, re-read a few of my posts. Maybe you learn a thing or two I wish you luck on your internet marketing journey.

Then simply move on? You've made it very clear that those considering working with us should be apprehensive. I don't disagree because we're on an internet forum hiring complete strangers, "anonymous" as you have put. I don't know why you keep mentioning "legal trouble" though, are you working for Google?

I'm not going to mention my product or service aside from the fact we've got a number of clients and in-house whitehat e-commerce campaigns that need to be setup. If this is different when it comes time to set this campaign up then they're free to stop working with us.

You haven't setup a new campaign recently then... Ever since June, even our standard one campaign lead-gen/e-commerce campaigns are being suspended. Of course they come back on appeal when someone actually reviews the campaign.

What's interesting to me is the fact you continue to respond here. Sure, anyone on a forum should be weary of anyone promising money and you made that clear. So why are you still here... That's the only reason I bring up your lack of success.

I'm not going to keep entertaining these posts, however to anyone interested who currently runs ads. Read the posts further up, you can still run ads assuming you're not running my exact campaigns with my specific keywords. I'd love for someone with a better understanding of adwords than this guy to chime in here.

So we aren't just advertising on Bitcointalk. We've got plenty of campaigns that need to be setup, that's why we're branching outside of the agency.

Again if we were to setup a new LLC and everything that's required to run ads, that still doesn't guarantee that Google won't see whats happening. Once they ban one campaign, they don't want you creating others for the same business, website, keywords etc.

If you have a profitable product on a specific vertical and you want to scale it, why not try running ads with your friends or family like you said? Most of these profitable niches come with seasonality so don't you wanna squeeze every bit of profit from them before that trend slows down? It sounds like you tried to do exactly what we're doing but weren't successful....



Sure, there's no denying there's a risk of the ad account getting suspended. I can't say this is too common the way we do it but there is always the risk. Even if you're running a fully legitimate campaign on Google nowadays, you've still got a high chance of random AI misfire suspension...

Our business or the website being advertised does NOT violate Google TOS. However, running multiple ads for one product falls under gaining an "unfair competitive advantage" and this is against Google TOS.

$20/daily for someone who will never use Google Ads is pretty good. Anymore than this and we won't be profitable.



I think you're misunderstanding something. We don't need a credit/debit card. You just need to have a payment method to setup inside Google Ads. This is done on your own computer. We're not asking for your credit card details....


Glad you asked. So our taxes are a little more complicated. You'd be working as an independent contractor meaning we don't need to request any personal information and you'd be responsible for filing your own taxes. Since you won't be receiving the profit from the shop, you'll just be taxed on the $20/day and you file this like you would normally.

To start, as mentioned in the thread, these aren't really blackhat ads. We are using blackhat techniques to run multiple ads but the campaigns themselves are selling merchandise for a popular crypto platform. (All designs are done in house and no trademark/copyright is being infringed on)

Double serving on Google will not land you in legal trouble... Even if we were running ads infringing on trademark/copyright, Google would ban the account and that would be that.


That's correct, we don't require anyone to use their own ad account currently running ads. You'd create a new one for this task and if you're currently running ads then we could create an MCC account and this would ensure that if the time came that Google noticed the ads and banned the account, it wouldn't affect the other accounts. Google won't ban an agency for running ads for a client that's doubleserving. The agency would have no way to know this.


That's not entirely true. We're outsourcing because if we setup an ad account under our MCC to run ads for the same product on the same keywords then yes we risk our MCC getting banned because it's clear to Google what we're doing.

If anyone running ads with us has a problem with BTC payments, we offer PayPal as well. We only offered BTC because of where we are currently.

As far as keywords go, we setup the account together so they see exactly what keywords are being added. And as mentioned previously, the account stays under their Google, we won't have any access as that defeats the whole purpose of this exercise.

That's an interesting read but I highly doubt they were paying $20/day to run ads when they can create the ads themselves.


So this is an interesting point. Initially this is what I thought as well. Just raise the budget and drown out the competitors (5-10% is nothing though) but this doesn't work the way you think. Google has a way of diminishing returns as you raise your budget. This is because they artifically raise the CPC because of the other ads using auto bidding.

Case B is exactly what we're doing and I'll let you in on a secret. Google prioritizes results for smaller ads because naturally they need the smaller advertisers to have good results in an effort to get them to spend more. By creating multiple ads, we're driving the CPC up yes but not nearly as much as we would by raising the budget drastically on a single ad. In addition to cheaper clicks, think about the competition when you have multiple ads spending $100/day. Their impression share will drop by around 20% for every ad that goes up and the only way to compete is to raise their CPC to a level that isn't sustainable because the niche we're in (e-commerce), there's only so much room for marketing.

To me, it sounds like you've been banned in the past and dealt with having multiple accounts banned. Next time you're having this trouble, I would say to try setting up a campaign in a completely different niche and watch as it starts running. Google can't differentiate from regular advertisers and agencies and those in between (Fiverr/Upwork freelancers). Sure, they won't let you create new accounts for your business but other business in different niches they will let run no problem.

I only mention this because worst case, our ads get detected as double serving and they ban the account. If you wanted to use Google Ads in the future, you can! Unless you're trying to run a campaign similiar to ours.

Hi, thanks for your interest.

So we aren't looking for accounts with attached cards. We can and do create multiple accounts with our own cards however this only works for 1 campaign per product. If we setup multiple accounts under our own cards to advertise the same product, they won't run for longer than a week before Google realizes we're gaining an "unfair competitive advantage".

Second, again we aren't looking for direct account access, the account would remain under you and you'd forward us the requested metrics and make a few changes once a week.

There are 4 steps to creating an ad account. The first three are to setup the campaign and we'll do that together. Last step is payments and that's when you're on your own.

Let me know if you have any further questions, thanks!

Hi, we are looking for help double serving on a few crypto related e-commerce campaigns. You don't need to know anything about Google Ads, although it wouldn't hurt having a little experience. Yes, it's against Google TOS to run multiple campaigns for the same product but if we do it this way, there's little risk to either of our ad accounts.

Requirements:
- PC with stable internet connection for campaign setup.
- Credit or debit card to pay Google.
- Bitcoin wallet or PayPal to receive our payments.

You will host an ad campaign that we manage/configure for a client, in return for $20 daily just for letting us use your account. This campaign will spend a predefined amount so your first payment will consist of this + the $20 paid before the ad starts running.

You won't be asked for any of your information as I will leave that up to you to setup with Google.
If you have any questions, feel free to leave them below.