Paying $20/daily to run an ad campaign for us.

[ReachAgency]

I give zero shits about google. I am concerned about users who might end up in your scheme and face consequences because they weren't aware of the risks beforehand.
 
I have talked to definevalue(check my first post on this thread) on telegram in the past when they were looking to start their own business. They are a good person(and I hope they think the same about me).
My posts are meant as a warning for them and other users like him.

These are the problems with your offer:

• You fail to mention your product or keyword until now. Someone with a legit business would have done so in their original post. You are looking for an advertisement right? Why be so private then?
• If there's no predetermined business or keyword, then you can abuse their accounts and probably run ads on any keywords at any time. Possibly landing them in legal trouble too.

Until now you have written 1000+ words with zero mentions about what your business is about   This fact alone cements my belief about your business being a blackhat and probably very illegal.

Then simply move on? You've made it very clear that those considering working with us should be apprehensive. I don't disagree because we're on an internet forum hiring complete strangers, "anonymous" as you have put. I don't know why you keep mentioning "legal trouble" though, are you working for Google?

I'm not going to mention my product or service aside from the fact we've got a number of clients and in-house whitehat e-commerce campaigns that need to be setup. If this is different when it comes time to set this campaign up then they're free to stop working with us.

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[edgycorner]

I'm not going to mention my product or service

That's funny because you want to advertise this product  

I stand with my conclusions.
Till now, you fail to disprove any of the points that I have raised  

Good luck scammer

[ReachAgency]

I'm not going to mention my product or service

That's funny because you want to advertise this product  

I stand with my conclusions.
Till now, you fail to disprove any of the points that I have raised  

Good luck scammer

I don't need to disclose my niche to you to advertise. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear but all I need to say is these are whitehat campaigns and if that changes when I'm setting up the campaign then sure I'm a scammer.

The lack of professionalism is absurd and once again that leads me to believe you had a very rough time with Google Ads. Instead of trying to gatekeep, re-read a few of my posts. Maybe you learn a thing or two I wish you luck on your internet marketing journey.

[blockman]

Requirements:
- PC with stable internet connection for campaign setup.
- Credit or debit card to pay Google.
- Bitcoin wallet or PayPal to receive our payments.

There's already a red flag why there's a need to use a credit or debit card. I've applied for this type of marketing before and I was tricked and fooled.
I even submitted my ID for this type of task. I was young during that time and haven't realized that my identities were being used for the campaign of that company.

I think you're misunderstanding something. We don't need a credit/debit card. You just need to have a payment method to setup inside Google Ads. This is done on your own computer. We're not asking for your credit card details....

I've said the need to use a credit or debit card. Yes, you don't need the actual card and its details but you need someone to use their own for paying your ads. Just like the concern of the others, there could be something go wrong with the use of others' cards. Anyway, I've only shared what I happen to experience before, and good luck to your ad and whoever will accept it.

[edgycorner]

I'm not going to mention my product or service

That's funny because you want to advertise this product  

I stand with my conclusions.
Till now, you fail to disprove any of the points that I have raised  

Good luck scammer

I don't need to disclose my niche to you to advertise. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear but all I need to say is these are whitehat campaigns and if that changes when I'm setting up the campaign then sure I'm a scammer.

The lack of professionalism is absurd and once again that leads me to believe you had a very rough time with Google Ads. Instead of trying to gatekeep, re-read a few of my posts. Maybe you learn a thing or two I wish you luck on your internet marketing journey.

This is a post about your service. You can keep on trying to make it personal, but your petty tricks won't work on me.

You have yourself stated, that whoever works with will never be able to access google ads.
You should include it in your post. Until you do, I would call this a scam. Because this is  huge risk that your clients are going to take and they have to be aware of this fact.
You also need to prove your identity with your clients, in case of any legal implicationa down the line.
Since you are using their identity to advertise "your" business. This is another risk, which supersedes the previous one. And may probably destroy someone's life(since you wouldn't disclose anything publicly that can be verified).

Anyhow, I can't enfore these two things. But whoever works with you, will hopefully read my post and will take necessary precautions.

[Coin_trader]

Requirements:
- PC with stable internet connection for campaign setup.
- Credit or debit card to pay Google.
- Bitcoin wallet or PayPal to receive our payments.

There's already a red flag why there's a need to use a credit or debit card. I've applied for this type of marketing before and I was tricked and fooled.
I even submitted my ID for this type of task. I was young during that time and haven't realized that my identities were being used for the campaign of that company.

I think you're misunderstanding something. We don't need a credit/debit card. You just need to have a payment method to setup inside Google Ads. This is done on your own computer. We're not asking for your credit card details....

I've said the need to use a credit or debit card. Yes, you don't need the actual card and its details but you need someone to use their own for paying your ads. Just like the concern of the others, there could be something go wrong with the use of others' cards. Anyway, I've only shared what I happen to experience before, and good luck to your ad and whoever will accept it.

It’s simple, use a debit card and just load an amount which the campaign needs so that you can’t be charge with unnecessary amount if this deal become shady. There many online wallet that offer a quick debit card that will useful on scenario like this. It’s really absurd to connect a debit card on business like this.

I’m just wondering if we will setup the payment method using our card. So it means OP will send the  payment budget in advance for the marketing? Because no one will gonna use there own money for the initial payment for the ads.

[Btcspot]

 I will try it to see how it goes , send me info here email Superbit1@protonmail.com with details.

[ReachAgency]

Requirements:
- PC with stable internet connection for campaign setup.
- Credit or debit card to pay Google.
- Bitcoin wallet or PayPal to receive our payments.

There's already a red flag why there's a need to use a credit or debit card. I've applied for this type of marketing before and I was tricked and fooled.
I even submitted my ID for this type of task. I was young during that time and haven't realized that my identities were being used for the campaign of that company.

I think you're misunderstanding something. We don't need a credit/debit card. You just need to have a payment method to setup inside Google Ads. This is done on your own computer. We're not asking for your credit card details....

I've said the need to use a credit or debit card. Yes, you don't need the actual card and its details but you need someone to use their own for paying your ads. Just like the concern of the others, there could be something go wrong with the use of others' cards. Anyway, I've only shared what I happen to experience before, and good luck to your ad and whoever will accept it.

Yeah, you're right. Using someone elses card to run my business' campaign is a bit unorthodox. As others have mentioned, using a debit card from a new checking account with a small amount is a fine way to counter this. However, Google charges in batches of $350 and we send the first payment before the ad is even running to help build trust.

I'm not going to mention my product or service

That's funny because you want to advertise this product  

I stand with my conclusions.
Till now, you fail to disprove any of the points that I have raised  

Good luck scammer

I don't need to disclose my niche to you to advertise. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear but all I need to say is these are whitehat campaigns and if that changes when I'm setting up the campaign then sure I'm a scammer.

The lack of professionalism is absurd and once again that leads me to believe you had a very rough time with Google Ads. Instead of trying to gatekeep, re-read a few of my posts. Maybe you learn a thing or two I wish you luck on your internet marketing journey.

This is a post about your service. You can keep on trying to make it personal, but your petty tricks won't work on me.

You have yourself stated, that whoever works with will never be able to access google ads.
You should include it in your post. Until you do, I would call this a scam. Because this is  huge risk that your clients are going to take and they have to be aware of this fact.
You also need to prove your identity with your clients, in case of any legal implicationa down the line.
Since you are using their identity to advertise "your" business. This is another risk, which supersedes the previous one. And may probably destroy someone's life(since you wouldn't disclose anything publicly that can be verified).

Anyhow, I can't enfore these two things. But whoever works with you, will hopefully read my post and will take necessary precautions.

That's not at all what I said. I said there is of course the inherent risk of the ad account being suspended but this is a possibility when running ANY campaign on a new account. In the event this did happen, the ad account would not be able to run similar campaigns to mine. Running a different campaign would more than likely start running, assuming billing is valid.

We don't need to reveal anything more than we already have. Those that choose to work with us are free to ask any questions they like and receive payments from our business PayPal... Revealing what agency is circumventing Google's policies may not be the smartest idea for us.

Requirements:
- PC with stable internet connection for campaign setup.
- Credit or debit card to pay Google.
- Bitcoin wallet or PayPal to receive our payments.

There's already a red flag why there's a need to use a credit or debit card. I've applied for this type of marketing before and I was tricked and fooled.
I even submitted my ID for this type of task. I was young during that time and haven't realized that my identities were being used for the campaign of that company.

I think you're misunderstanding something. We don't need a credit/debit card. You just need to have a payment method to setup inside Google Ads. This is done on your own computer. We're not asking for your credit card details....

I've said the need to use a credit or debit card. Yes, you don't need the actual card and its details but you need someone to use their own for paying your ads. Just like the concern of the others, there could be something go wrong with the use of others' cards. Anyway, I've only shared what I happen to experience before, and good luck to your ad and whoever will accept it.

It’s simple, use a debit card and just load an amount which the campaign needs so that you can’t be charge with unnecessary amount if this deal become shady. There many online wallet that offer a quick debit card that will useful on scenario like this. It’s really absurd to connect a debit card on business like this.

I’m just wondering if we will setup the payment method using our card. So it means OP will send the  payment budget in advance for the marketing? Because no one will gonna use there own money for the initial payment for the ads.

Yeah, this would work fine for us assuming you can get our payment transferred within a few days so no payments get declined. Google tends to ban accounts with virtual cards like Brex & Privacy because people abuse the free $350 Google initially provides before charging the payment on file.

[edgycorner]

This guy has excuses for everything
Doesn't want to verify his identity to his own clients lol

I am guessing he's doing something very illegal(probably selling guns or even drugs) or may be phishing bank logins. These kinds of activities will land you in jail for a very very long time. Take care everyone.

[darkangel11]

I'm not going to mention my product or service

That's funny because you want to advertise this product  

I stand with my conclusions.
Till now, you fail to disprove any of the points that I have raised  

Good luck scammer

I don't need to disclose my niche to you to advertise. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear but all I need to say is these are whitehat campaigns and if that changes when I'm setting up the campaign then sure I'm a scammer.

The lack of professionalism is absurd and once again that leads me to believe you had a very rough time with Google Ads. Instead of trying to gatekeep, re-read a few of my posts. Maybe you learn a thing or two I wish you luck on your internet marketing journey.

Let's assume that I'm interested in working for you and you share the business plan with me. What's stopping me from coming back to this thread and positing it all for others to see? I'm an independent contractor, there's no NDA, I can reveal whatever I want.

Why won't you just say it here and be done with the charade? People won't suspect you of advertising anything illegal and you will attract more potential partners.

[edgycorner]

What's so secret about this?

Let's assume that I'm interested in working for you and you share the business plan with me. What's stopping me from coming back to this thread and positing it all for others to see? I'm an independent contractor, there's no NDA, I can reveal whatever I want.

Why won't you just say it here and be done with the charade? People won't suspect you of advertising anything illegal and you will attract more potential partners.

Exactly, and whoever works for him can verify what's happening on their account.
Because people who are desperate and young might end up getting involved in something illegal. This is where it starts.

Watch this video, where some scammers would hire money mules in a similar fashion on facebook, snapchat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfgbZ5wJszs

If this guy runs an illegal ad on your account, then the police will catch you. This is why he needs to provide something public or verify his identity(through video chat and valid government ID) to whoever works for him.

[ReachAgency]

I'm not going to mention my product or service

That's funny because you want to advertise this product  

I stand with my conclusions.
Till now, you fail to disprove any of the points that I have raised  

Good luck scammer

I don't need to disclose my niche to you to advertise. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear but all I need to say is these are whitehat campaigns and if that changes when I'm setting up the campaign then sure I'm a scammer.

The lack of professionalism is absurd and once again that leads me to believe you had a very rough time with Google Ads. Instead of trying to gatekeep, re-read a few of my posts. Maybe you learn a thing or two I wish you luck on your internet marketing journey.

Let's assume that I'm interested in working for you and you share the business plan with me. What's stopping me from coming back to this thread and positing it all for others to see? I'm an independent contractor, there's no NDA, I can reveal whatever I want.

Why won't you just say it here and be done with the charade? People won't suspect you of advertising anything illegal and you will attract more potential partners.

There's nothing stopping you from doing that. You'd soil a blossoming business relationship that's paying $20/day for minimal effort. You could also copy our keywords, ad copy and create your own campaign with the same designs that we're running. I wouldn't want to compete with us but you could try it. Google is a long game. If you can sustain that then by all means, otherwise I'd stick with the $20/day.

What's so secret about this?

Let's assume that I'm interested in working for you and you share the business plan with me. What's stopping me from coming back to this thread and positing it all for others to see? I'm an independent contractor, there's no NDA, I can reveal whatever I want.

Why won't you just say it here and be done with the charade? People won't suspect you of advertising anything illegal and you will attract more potential partners.

Exactly, and whoever works for him can verify what's happening on their account.
Because people who are desperate and young might end up getting involved in something illegal. This is where it starts.

Watch this video, where some scammers would hire money mules in a similar fashion on facebook, snapchat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfgbZ5wJszs

If this guy runs an illegal ad on your account, then the police will catch you. This is why he needs to provide something public or verify his identity(through video chat and valid government ID) to whoever works for him.

You'd have to be blind to let someone run ads promoting guns, drugs or anything else obviously blackhat. It's the responsibility of the account holder to vet the ads being put up. I'm not disputing any of this but I feel like this is common sense when dealing with strangers. I do appreciate the videos and articles you've linked. Not sure why you have so much experience in this field but not everyone is trying to run a money mule operation.

[edgycorner]

There's nothing stopping you from doing that. You'd soil a blossoming business relationship that's paying $20/day for minimal effort. You could also copy our keywords, ad copy and create your own campaign with the same designs that we're running. I wouldn't want to compete with us but you could try it. Google is a long game. If you can sustain that then by all means, otherwise I'd stick with the $20/day.

Then what's stopping you from posting your "legal" business in the original post.
You are caught in your own lie now  

It's the responsibility of the account holder to vet the ads being put up.

So you do agree that it will be the client's responsibility for whatever scam you run  
This is what I have been saying, to minimalize the consequences they should verify your identity or post your so-called "legal" business here to corroborate the ads.



Good luck conman

[balotelli]

DM for deal.

[jajaaaction]

Dm for deal, if it's still relevant.

[ReachAgency]

There's nothing stopping you from doing that. You'd soil a blossoming business relationship that's paying $20/day for minimal effort. You could also copy our keywords, ad copy and create your own campaign with the same designs that we're running. I wouldn't want to compete with us but you could try it. Google is a long game. If you can sustain that then by all means, otherwise I'd stick with the $20/day.

Then what's stopping you from posting your "legal" business in the original post.
You are caught in your own lie now  

It's the responsibility of the account holder to vet the ads being put up.

So you do agree that it will be the client's responsibility for whatever scam you run  
This is what I have been saying, to minimalize the consequences they should verify your identity or post your so-called "legal" business here to corroborate the ads.



Good luck conman

We're going in circles now. If I am running a scam then the client should not be my client and end the campaign creation right there...

[Cryptpogz1]

I knew i have seen something like this around here before, You don't  happen know this guy by any chance ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351399.0

If i have to guess i would say its probably the same person with multiple accounts (although he was offering 50$ then so i guess business is not booming nowdays ? ), I don't know if what he is offering is legit or not but a guy who has two accounts promoting the same service is not to be trusted in my opinion.

[edgycorner]

I knew i have seen something like this around here before, You don't  happen know this guy by any chance ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351399.0

If i have to guess i would say its probably the same person with multiple accounts (although he was offering 50$ then so i guess business is not booming nowdays ? ), I don't know if what he is offering is legit or not but a guy who has two accounts promoting the same service is not to be trusted in my opinion.

Nice find   He will be ready with some other excuse to cover this lol

I wonder what happened to his previous clients?  
Definitely got them banned with his illegal adverts.

[virasog]

There's nothing stopping you from doing that. You'd soil a blossoming business relationship that's paying $20/day for minimal effort. You could also copy our keywords, ad copy and create your own campaign with the same designs that we're running. I wouldn't want to compete with us but you could try it. Google is a long game. If you can sustain that then by all means, otherwise I'd stick with the $20/day.

Then what's stopping you from posting your "legal" business in the original post.
You are caught in your own lie now

Ok if he does not want to post his niche and business publicly, its his right but i am wondering has he hired someone to do the task and did he paid anyone 20 bucks a day ?

There are few people who said that they have DM him, did anyone deal with him and got paid or got scammed 

[edgycorner]

There's nothing stopping you from doing that. You'd soil a blossoming business relationship that's paying $20/day for minimal effort. You could also copy our keywords, ad copy and create your own campaign with the same designs that we're running. I wouldn't want to compete with us but you could try it. Google is a long game. If you can sustain that then by all means, otherwise I'd stick with the $20/day.

Then what's stopping you from posting your "legal" business in the original post.
You are caught in your own lie now

Ok if he does not want to post his niche and business publicly, its his right but i am wondering has he hired someone to do the task and did he paid anyone 20 bucks a day ?

There are few people who said that they have DM him, did anyone deal with him and got paid or got scammed  

Going by his previous post. He seemed to be replying to only a certain people(I am guessing he's looking for innocent ones who aren't tech-savy and don't know much about blackhat stuff, online scams etc).
I hope whoever works with them, will prioritize their own security rather than money. Since OP fails to provide any assurance other than his own words.