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701  Other / Off-topic / Re: Alright, I need to ace the SAT. on: March 30, 2011, 07:32:13 PM
When I was your age.....the maximum score on the SAT was only 1600.  Now I feel old, thanks.

I agree with those who say to study the math.  It's nothing too complicated, just a little tricky at times.  From what I've read of your posts you seem to have a fairly good grasp of English, though, if you have the time, it's not a bad idea to study some word definitions or practice passage reading (do they still have that section?). 

The passage readings were the hardest for me, because there would be a long story about something and then they would ask you questions about it:

John is a single college student who passed his friend in the cafeteria. 
"Hey, Peter."
"Hey, John."
"What did you think of that Calc test?"
"Not too bad I just had problems with the 2nd problem."
blah blah blah


1) What was the mood  of the previous passage.
    a) Sexual
    b) Somber
    c) Sensual
    d) Sarcastic
    e) All of the above

Me: WTF?!?

A, B and D. If they touched each other, it would have been C (therefore E) as well.
Grin
702  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin stole my weekend! on: March 30, 2011, 07:29:15 PM
Well actually, I just went on my dad's computer(which is a windows 7 and is pretty much ALWAYS logged in on his account which is an admin so he doesn't have to type in pass for downloads) and just somehow accidentally clicked on the download link to this, so now I'm just running it on my dad's comp.

bravo  Cheesy



Wait, so we are encouraging this ten-year-old to disobey his parents and go behind their back to use bitcoin?  Are we that desperate for more bitcoin members?  What's going to happen when they discover what's going on and come on this forum to find admins and hero members encouraging their kid to disobey them and download "questionable" (in their mind) software?

I can hear the child porn accusations already:  "Bitcoin, a nefarious online pseudo-currency that is used to lure in young children, going behind their parents' back." 

Kid, you should definitely tell your parents about bitcoin.  The best thing to do would be direct them to bitcoin.org or http://www.bitcoinme.com/ or have one of the admins (like Gavin) send them an email explaining what bitcoin is. 

703  Other / Off-topic / Re: This game is very simple... [7.9899 BTC Reward] on: March 30, 2011, 09:09:17 AM
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1663664

Just thought I would leave this here for everyone to look at. Basically on the largest site about the internet in Australia bitcoin got a bad reception.
A memorable quote from the thread was  " I love paying tax"   Cheesy

I nearly choked on my bitcoins at that one.

My opinion of Australians just dropped by about 40 bitcoins.  I hope the ones on Whirlpool are not a good representative of the Aussie populace.  Sad


***
TIME ELAPSE
***

Actually, after reading through the entire 12 pages of posts, there were only a couple who were spouting economic nonsense.  Most just seemed to have difficulty understanding the benefits.  Probably because Australia isn't facing as serious currency problems as the US.

I understand that it is hard not to respond to sarcasm and ad hominems in kind, but it doesn't help convince people of bit coins.  And while the two posters "lolwut" and "meanwhileinaus" had some great information about and arguments for bitcoin they left their audience rather jaded.  Several other bit coiners managed to keep their cool and spark some interest.  If we want to see bit coins adopted we really need to respect people's rights to disagree and even their right to remain willfully ignorant.  Insults only raise defensive emotional and psychological barriers and will turn people off from bitcoins for good.  Also, try to separate libertarian/anarchist style arguments from bitcoin if you think the audience is going to be turned off by your zeal (as much as I agree with it).  There are plenty of benefits of bitcoins even for non-libertarian and anarchists, no?

Anyway, that's just my two milliBits on the issue.  Smiley
704  Other / Off-topic / Re: Alright, I need to ace the SAT. on: March 30, 2011, 07:48:58 AM
When I was your age.....the maximum score on the SAT was only 1600.  Now I feel old, thanks.

I agree with those who say to study the math.  It's nothing too complicated, just a little tricky at times.  From what I've read of your posts you seem to have a fairly good grasp of English, though, if you have the time, it's not a bad idea to study some word definitions or practice passage reading (do they still have that section?). 

The passage readings were the hardest for me, because there would be a long story about something and then they would ask you questions about it:

John is a single college student who passed his friend in the cafeteria. 
"Hey, Peter."
"Hey, John."
"What did you think of that Calc test?"
"Not too bad I just had problems with the 2nd problem."
blah blah blah


1) What was the mood  of the previous passage.
    a) Sexual
    b) Somber
    c) Sensual
    d) Sarcastic
    e) All of the above

Me: WTF?!?
705  Other / Off-topic / Re: Forum Membership Levels on: March 30, 2011, 07:08:46 AM
hi.  i am a newbie myself.  i've been increasingly interested in bitcoin and just joined the forums.  i was looking for a 'introduce yourself' section, but here seems ok.  these forums are friendly, right?  i'm a bit shy...

Welcome to the BitCoin forum!  A lot of people on this forum have strong opinions, but most people are quite friendly and at least civil in discussions.  Don't be afraid to ask questions and talk about stuff.  Just try to post in the relevant topics.  Smiley

706  Other / Off-topic / Re: Anarcho-Capitalism and Anarcho-Socialism on: March 28, 2011, 10:05:23 PM
"Anarcho"-capitalism is a contradiction in terms.
Anarcho-socialism is a tautology.

Anarchism is about freedom, specifically freedom from social hierarchy. The only fetters on freedom should be those that fetter the ability of a person to restrict the freedom of others.

You will never be free from social hierarchy as long as humans are involved.  However, I agree with the second part.  It's just that the practical application of it is not clear-cut.

Socialism is about a worker receiving the full value of their labor.

Who decides what is the "full value" of the labor?  

Capitalism is about certain individuals accumulating resources (capital) which they cannot personally use, as there is too much of it. These individuals then either: 1) hire others to use these resources (means of production) to produce more resource, taking a share of what was produced (profit) though the capitalist did not actually do any of the work; or 2) rent out the resources (e.g. land, houses).

It is important to note that work is not only physical labor, but management, business forecasting, utilizing the knowledge of how best to employ resources, etc.

The accumulation of capital is how economies grow and how the standard of living rises.  If individuals could only have the resources they can only employ physically, then we will all end up in subsistence lifestyles.  That's fine if that's what you want, but it is not what I want.  I like large companies that used accumulated capital to provide me with technological innovations and cheap services to raise my standard of living.  Is it not coercion for you to take that away from me?  Dictating that individuals can only have resources they can immediately employ is a restriction of freedom.  Do I misunderstand your position?


**Edited to fix the quotations.
707  Other / Off-topic / Re: My doubts about anarchy on: March 28, 2011, 09:33:57 PM
Might be a big cliché, but I think they want everyone to live in harmony and non-violence.  Meaning that nobody possesses anything, everybody works for everyone and you have to share whatever you produce.

But there are limited resources, people like cars, computers, hookers.  If you have to share everything what dose one have?  Nothing?
If you are the only one with water, do you have to share it with everyone so everyone dehydrates?

In a 'nobody owning anything' society, there is no impulse for anyone to save up for the bad times.  As everyone else will attack you for 'hoarding.'

To me any non-capitalistic society will be short-lived.  Particularly one that runs on anarchy.

Economically it is unsustainable, morally it is evil.

+1

It is interesting to note that in an anarcho-capitalist society you could construct an anarcho-socialist community, but not the other way around.
708  Economy / Economics / Re: Distribution of Wealth on: March 21, 2011, 08:11:13 PM

You keep protesting that you don't, but then you keep saying you do. No less than twice in this very post.

It's not an ad hominem attack when it is TRUE. I can't take you seriously as long as you continue to advocate violence, whether you realize that that is what you're doing or not.

I'm going to assume that you're not trolling me here and explain to you that I do NOT advocate violence, or that YOU advocate the same. Call it violence if you like, but I think you'll have to be very anal retentive to do that.

First of all I'm going to assume that you agree with me that there can be long term contracts. I will provide a service for you for one year, and you'll pay me an amount of money at the end of the year. I'm also going to assume that  you agree that I should get paid weather or not you used the service or not, since we have a contract.
Now, if you don't pay me at the end of the year, am I advocating violence if I try to get my money that you owe me? I mean by legal means, court, chieftains or whatever means are availible to me?


I'm going to assume you're not stupid and know what an implicit contract is too. You know, if I let you live in my house for free for a week and then say "These rules will be in effect by next monday, if you want to live here you'll have to follow them". If you don't move out the day before you've accepted the contract. Right?
Here's a little shock for you. Your parents, guardians, whatever you call them, accepted the rules of the state they live in, while they were taking care of you. Whenever you got old enough to take care of your own life and make your own decisions you had a choice. Accept the rules of the "house" you were living in, or GTFO. If you didn't GTFO you implicitly accepted the rules, and the state is no more violent than the example above. You accepted the contract and the service provider have every right to collect the money from you for the service provided, weather or not you used them.

Sorry for taking so long to answer, I'm abroad and don't have access to the internet all the time.


This example of an implicit contract is really interesting.  I agree with your example above that if Caveden doesn't leave your house he is implicitly agreeing to follow your rules.  But what if your rules were "If you don't leave my house by Monday next week, you agree to be my slave for life" ?  Furthermore, if Caveden then replies: "No. I am a self-owner and will not agree to be yours or anyone's slave."  But then he stays on past Monday.  Is he then your slave?  I'm not trying to lead you into a trap, I just want to clarify my understanding of your point.

The other thought I had was that while I agree with your example, I don't agree with the analogy you draw to living under The State.  You, presumably, own your house.  Therefore it is YOUR private property and you get to set the rules for it.  By saying that The State can set the rules for everyone in its jurisdiction, you are saying that it OWNS ALL of it.  This necessarily negates all private property.  From previous posts it seems that you are not against private property, so I'm not sure how you could agree with the concept of an implicit social contract with the State.  Am I not understanding your point?

709  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SELLERS: Let's Raise Our Prices to $2/BTC! on: March 20, 2011, 09:55:45 AM
Once people do this, I will sell at 1.99.

Exactly.


It makes me really happy that people on this forum understand basic economics.  So many people don't. 
710  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Bounty Paid!] Go to Wall St in Front of N.Y. Stock Exchange on: March 08, 2011, 05:30:29 AM
WTF?  What happened to the super-sexy (according to Bruce) underwear model generating publicity for Bitcoin?  All the sudden everyone is talking about vegetarianism.... 
711  Economy / Marketplace / Re: I will write for Bitcoins. No minimum bid. on: March 08, 2011, 05:02:31 AM
I'm looking forward to it.  I just sent you an advance on the novel (.02 bc's), the other half will be sent upon project completion.

Wow, the going rate for a novel is only .04 BTC?  I guess I can forget about my writing career in the world of BTC.....   Tongue
Frankly, I found it kind of insulting unless .02 BTC is the world to this guy.

I would think it certainly would not be worth your time....
712  Economy / Marketplace / Re: I need a company name (30 BTC to the winner) on: March 08, 2011, 04:13:10 AM
I like the idea of holographic technology as it is a good model for distributed systems.  What about:

Holographic Enterprises
or
Holographic Ventures
or
HoloStone Enterprises/Venture
or
Holoczywvforistranioptyerialcosis Enterprise (pronounced just like it sounds)

The last one is the best.
713  Economy / Marketplace / Re: I will write for Bitcoins. No minimum bid. on: March 08, 2011, 03:29:16 AM
I'm looking forward to it.  I just sent you an advance on the novel (.02 bc's), the other half will be sent upon project completion.

Wow, the going rate for a novel is only .04 BTC?  I guess I can forget about my writing career in the world of BTC.....   Tongue
714  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mass Awakening Documentary, featuring Bitcoin. Intro, Rough Cut. on: March 08, 2011, 03:22:52 AM
Maybe we can get HotForWords to explain to the people what a bitcoin is Smiley

(http://www.youtube.com/hotforwords)

I'm prety sure that will boost our audience massively.


[edit]

I sent a request, we'll see if it gets a reply...

[/edit]

OMG, why didn't we think of this before?!? If enough of us request it she'll probably do it and it would be MASSIVE publicity for BitCoins.
715  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoins catch on, will people get used to having so few? on: March 08, 2011, 03:07:12 AM
Just use the wonderful metric system and stop worrying about this subject.

I don't think most people will have a probably with mBTC, uBTC, etc.
716  Economy / Economics / Re: A question on Attrition of BitCoins ??? on: March 08, 2011, 02:42:40 AM
What the OP is talking about here would likely take hundreds of years to happen.  BitCoins aren't going to leach out of the system that fast.  Besides, if BitCoins succeed I bet it will only be 5 or 10 years before someone else starts another digital currency akin to BitCoins.  It is likely that if Crypto Currency takes off you will have several different ones competing with each other and so the whole world won't have to exclusively use BitCoins. 

Adding another decimal place to the RIGHT of the zero isn't inflation.  1 BTC will still be 1 BTC, you simply will be able to use smaller portions of it in your transactions.

If the Federal Reserve suddenly started minting 1/10th penny coins the US dollar wouldn't suddenly inflate.  Of course in the case of the US dollar no one would use them because a penny is already a very small amount which is only used when exact change is required.

Am I wrong?

717  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Austrian Economic Study Group on: March 04, 2011, 05:11:27 AM
I just bought Tom Wood's Rollback. I read the first couple of chapters so far and it is quite excellent.

I was sold after watching this video.

Ha, nice.  My Austrian economics group is reading this book in the next two weeks.  I'm looking forward to it.
718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Satoshi Alive? Thread on: February 28, 2011, 12:19:15 AM
Actually, Satoshi is a robot sent from the future to stop the largest currency crisis in the history of mankind, and the nuclear war that followed the political chaos caused by it.

His name comes from joined names of Japanese corporations who created him, Samsung-Toshiba-Nakamichi-Motorola.
in 2075, these corporations formed a single huge megacorporation, in joined effort to perfect time travel technology.

After they successfully conducted first tests of Future-Vision Hyperdimensional Matrix™ in 2075, and got a glimpse 9 years into the future (2085), they saw the earth being destroyed by a nuclear disaster which was result of war caused by terrible worldwide economical crisis. They were devastated by the things they saw, and they completely commited all of their funds to developing time travel technology & building an intelligent robot which they can send into the past. That was necessary because a glitch in the Time Vortex Plasma-Based Bipulsary Manipulator™ caused any organic matter to be damaged when travelling through the vortex.

They created first working prototype of S.A.T.O.S.H.I. in 2083. Fortunately for us, in January 2084 a stable backward-aligned temporal vortex was created and Satoshi was successfully transported to set coordinates in the past.

And here we go, creating a better future for the mankind.

Where do i buy that book ?

Haven't finished it yet, but when Bitcoin becomes #1 world currency, i might sell screening rights to some movie studio.

The Bitcoin
The Bitcoin - Judgement Day
The Bitcoin - Rise Of The Machines
The Bitcoin - Salvation



It all sounds so......familiar.  Must be because of the messiness involved in time travel.  Time travel creates hyper-distortions in the time-space continuum causing people to have "deja-vus" of things that happened to them already in the future, but haven't happened yet in the present.  If that makes sense.
719  Other / Off-topic / Re: Atlas Shrugged, the movie on: February 12, 2011, 05:30:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W07bFa4TzM

I'm excited about this!  I've moved on somewhat from Ayn Rand's philosophy, but Atlas Shrugged was a very pivotal book in shaping my thinking. 

Dammit.  Now I actually have to read the book before I watch the movie.  Sigh.  Guess it was going to happen sooner or later...
720  Other / Off-topic / Re: Taxes is not Theft on: February 12, 2011, 05:26:04 AM
But didn't Thomas Edison rely on the patent system to make a living off his inventions?  Tongue

-Gene.

(I couldn't resist)

Smiley 
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