You guys pulled a classic "bait and switch" on your miners. So, for your full time miners, how will your hopping proof technology provide 98% of avg prop returns for them? Or where do they get the rewards from the hoppers? So, with faking stats you're not a pool! classic prop pools faking? part time or full time miners are being robbed by the Pools themselves. Hopping pool hoppers by a pool op? stealing is stealing, right? You are picking who to take from and not a bit transparent about it. Also, if you look at http://blockchain.info/blocks/BitclockersYou'll see that they #^@'in everybody up in here! Full time miners check your rewards against that and your butt will hurt! |
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I have not been paid yet, however, I was pleased to see A1 coming back to address complaints. A1, you can use this 1JrooEdv9GUyrpky7Gb4h35RSgW8mYrRt9
So, I assume first payments are still being manually entered, ETA?
Thanks CP for helping A1 see the light! A1, I bet you didn't know the trail you left would be used to verify your statements. I, too, learned a few things during the process...
BTW, 1JrooEdv9GUyrpky7Gb4h35RSgW8mYrRt9 does not discriminate, please send a donation to help me expand my efforts to help the orphan kids of frigid, faraway Lower Slobbovia.
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lol, so I can understand your frustration. seriously I dont blame you for wanting to call the police...
I think it would be helpful for the investigation could everyone who is still owed money from a1bitcoinpool post approximately what they think they are owed?
I realize its not going to be an exact but please just give your best honest answer with about how much you think it should be.
About 30k shares. Not sure what that works out to, since I don't know the total shares submitted before the server went offline. I mined 18,500k shares towards the 50btc recieved on 2/3. http://blockchain.info/tx-index/15091932/3a58909b9d5630c9a3e5356468262586a1da71e93c4c4b94270419d9f74d2d5brjk, nice sig! You're supposed to ask or beg for BTC, like me  Wanna be my brother? 1 BTC and you'll be in the will..? |
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I will Marty, you seem like a very reasonable guy, just chill out a little bit and the whole story will be revealed I just need to hear back from the investigating staff that its ok to do this first , as soon as they give me the ok I will spill the beans so to speak, I will tell anything and everything I know, the only reason I have been holding back is because I wanted the staff to investigate everything first so there could be no b.s. allegations, I hate the mob mentality that has cropped up all over the bitcointalk forums and I dont want to be a part of anything like that, I feel the best way to handle a situation like this is go straight to staff, give them all the information and let them do their jobs, its really the best way...
"you seem like a very reasonable guy" ok, we cool! haha I hope this doesn't happen again, cause I will fall for it! Former Bitcoin7, btcserv, TNT, and A1 member |
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Cablepair, a BTC was generated on 2/3 at the pool's wallet. On 2/3 you were working with him to fix the top 30 hash rate issue and the pool mined for days after before the "hacker" stole everything. However, the 50 BTC mined were not paid proportional to the miners. Actually, the BTC was used to pay early PPS. So, YOU HAD TO BE INVOLVED, and the pool YOU set up and hosted was infarct a ponzi scheme by the true definition.
You also vouched for him on TNT and A1. You even replayed to my complain for switching go PPLNS with TNT.
As this thread shows, looks like you were involved MORE that just a vendor relationship in what I believe was a criminal matter.
MartyChubbs, honestly - you have it so backwards man, you really do - you have no idea , lol its almost funny it really is... you know what the part of this that makes me absolutely sick? 100% of you have 95% of the whole thing wrong including what happened, but its not your fault, and I dont blame you. Also I dont blame you for attacking me, you guys want justice here, you were wronged and the guy that wronged you is hidding out like a scared litle girl while this whole thing plays out, and because I am man enough to actually get involved and shed some light here I get attacked in his absence. I have reported to the staff what I know to have happened, I encourage you to contact them with your questions, when the investigation is over I will gladly repost my entire message to staff here on the forum, and it will all be a lot clearer to you. I also encourage you to try to get an official law enforcement investigation going, I think thats excellent, if some real professionals get involved the truth will not only be exposed but believed! If I have it wrong, why don't you explain what happened to the first block found? Was it your expertise that kept the wallet on the server? What date did you last work on the server/software? Were you negligent or did you set up an insecure pool by design? |
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Cablepair, a BTC was generated on 2/3 at the pool's wallet. On 2/3 you were working with him to fix the top 30 hash rate issue and the pool mined for days after before the "hacker" stole everything. However, the 50 BTC mined were not paid proportional to the miners. Actually, the BTC was used to pay early PPS. So, YOU HAD TO BE INVOLVED, and the pool YOU set up and hosted was infarct a ponzi scheme by the true definition. You also vouched for him on TNT and A1. You even replyed to my complain for switching go PPLNS with TNT. As this thread shows, looks like you were involved MORE that just a vendor relationship in what I believe was a criminal matter. This thread is on topic, we are complaining about you and your consultant role with this fraudulent business. Great read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54970.msg659768#msg659768 |
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I'm assuming bulanula was paid out since I've not seen anymore chat about this.
Paid out, my ass. This guy deserves a total scammer tag. I have given up on this lowlife lying scum scammer. Don't give up, the Bitcoin Shitlist is waiting for him! Gofill the report on the dude! You really sure the guy is from there? lol No, I don't nor do I know who it is, just making a suggestion. But the police will investigate...there are cybercrime laws on the books now that will help them find out who did this. People were defrauded across state lines so FBI may be involved too. |
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I'm assuming bulanula was paid out since I've not seen anymore chat about this.
Paid out, my ass. This guy deserves a total scammer tag. I have given up on this lowlife lying scum scammer. Don't give up, the Bitcoin Shitlist is waiting for him! Gofill the report on the dude! if this person operates out of that jurisdictional. There might me sufficient proof that monies were acquired with no intent to pay investors/miners. The homepage stated that he understood the agreement and he explicitly would not do what he did, seems criminal. Anyone in Ill? |
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gave the noob a chance.. guess it was my fault to think he could be a trustworthy pool operator.. oh well..
I gave him a break on the first pool, this seemed premeditated. TNTmining closed before it found a block, I did not get paid..but he offered to shut me up. I declined so I scratched it up to a noob...and just let it go. |
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I mined 129,484 shares there, but proportional.
Since no block was found, Im not sure I should feel scammed or stupid.
That is the "official" story but due to a balance of 100 on the pool's donation address, I am not sure if that is really the case or not. Presumably two blocks were found but the pool did not record them so as to avoid paying the 20 BTC block finder reward thingy ... The donation address was the pools address, right? Blocks were generated and sent to that address, so the hash power was assigned to that address, right? Donated btc would come from a btc address, right? Paper trail is good, isn't it? Not sure, someone please correct, however, I have setup PSJ before. Yeah you can clearly see that the address for donation is "1DodyyJvT5z6ztwFS16w5j3ZBKfTFgxBNE" taken directly from " http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Lr_rRazJ9zoJ:www.a1bitcoinpool.com/stats.php" ! To me it seems crystal clear he found 2 blocks total during the pool's run time. Maybe someone more knowledgeable in the art of blockchain analysis can verify for us ? +1 |
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I mined 129,484 shares there, but proportional.
Since no block was found, Im not sure I should feel scammed or stupid.
That is the "official" story but due to a balance of 100 on the pool's donation address, I am not sure if that is really the case or not. Presumably two blocks were found but the pool did not record them so as to avoid paying the 20 BTC block finder reward thingy ... The donation address was the pools address, right? Blocks were generated and sent to that address, so the hash power was assigned to that address, right? Donated btc would come from a btc address, right? Paper trail is good, isn't it? Not sure, someone please correct, however, I have setup PSJ before. Based on the evidence, he collected btc from mined prop shares to pay PPS, see if you see yours by following the transactions! Classic Ponzi! |
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Please post if you were positively or negitivly impacted by A1BitcoinPool
Was anyone paid? How much? What was the value of the hash power you gave with an explicate agreement to return 120% in value back to you?
This should be a lesson to the next operator who sets up a pool with negative intent or negligence.
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Yeah by the looks of things it initially seems he has the funds but just refuses to own up and pay like a man but chooses to go the scammer route and screw us all knowing there won't be any repercussions at all. <- This has to change or the BTC scamming will not stop  This is why I am making all this fuss about $4. The principle of scamming = not OK and the people that are doing it like "A1BITCOINPOOL" need to learn that there are consequences. He is not only a scammer but a complete liar  Had 4 ghash/s of personal miners + had found 2 blocks + multiple addresses loaded with funds + refuses to pay us what is owed = scammer tag pending ? Civil damages would be $4 plus estimated electricity and, since the offer was PPS, cost/rewards can be calculated. Criminal would be $400 plus. So, it is more than just principle now. |
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I have been trying for a while now to try and access the database after it was hacked and no luck. Who ever hacked the server also emptied out all my bitcoins I was using to send payments out. At this point A1Bitcoinpool is shut down for good.
Are you denying you were indeed operating a proxy and did find 2 blocks prior to closing down your pool to avoid paying for the electricity you used to make $420 at current market rate? and are not paying out on a proportional basis per the offer put forth by your home page and the consideration verified by the stats on your website? From the cashed copy of the top 30 hash rate cashed by Google? I thing the authorities should be involved. Clearly the value of the BTC and electricity warrant a serous penalty. Chicago Criminal Lawyer Explains: Illinois Penalties and Jail Time The penalty for theft in Illinois is dependent upon the value of the amount stolen, the higher the value of the property stolen the more severe the penalty, and whether it was stolen from a person and where the offense took place. Generally, if the theft occurred at a place of worship, school or of government property, the crime is enhanced to one of the fours classes of a felony charge. Felony thefts can include car theft, credit card theft, felony larceny, fraud and embezzlement. If the value of the stolen property is $300 or less and it was not stolen directly from another person or from a retail store, then the theft charge is Class A Misdemeanor which carries a possible sentence of up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,500. Many shoplifting charges fall under this category. http://www.freddry.com/blog/illinois-theft-robbery-charges.html however, I am not making claim that I know who the operator is... I just took Ill by example. |
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Hopping with everyone's hashes and couldn't figure out how to cover up your tracks? It looked suspect from the day it launched, but you proved to it, again. Thanks perp... I feel like a dummy.  Yeah. He got "hacked" is the typical excuse. I bet there are more people that got scammed by this pathetic pool operator. He was involved in TNTmining.com ( don't know much about that ) and other failed pools. Judging by his 100+ BTC address "for donations" I see he has found like 2 blocks and NEVER PAID THAT 20BTC bonus either to people that found it rather choosing to hide the stats and never show a block found on website. Look here to see how many shares he scammed you of : http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Lr_rRazJ9zoJ:www.a1bitcoinpool.com/stats.php His address with 100+ BTC ( now he is claiming he has no BTC left to give me my owed 0.93 BTC !!! ) : 1DodyyJvT5z6ztwFS16w5j3ZBKfTFgxBNE Lame ass excuse "MY POOL GOT HACKED" scammer. PONZI/PYRAMID Ponzi or pyramid schemes are investment scams in which investors are promised abnormally high profits on their investments. No investment is actually made. Early investors are paid returns with the investment money received from the later investors. The system usually collapses. The later investors do not receive dividends and lose their initial investment. If you believe you may have fallen victim to this type of scam and wish to report it, please file a complaint with us. And 2 blocks indeed http://blockchain.info/address/8c7383cf30e92ec1b7b17ec576671f31a84fff88 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LeGdJMCNDC4J:www.a1bitcoinpool.com/index.php+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_cs%7Clang_en%7Clang_fr%7Clang_de%7Clang_ja%7Clang_ru%7Clang_es%7Clang_viWelcome to A1BitcoinPool.com If you are a new user, please create an account. Then click "Getting Started", and follow the instructions on that page. Introducing A1 Bitcoin Mining Pool! www.A1BitcoinPool.com Pool Specs Featuring Proportional Payout System with 0% Fee High speed server with i7 Quad Core CPU & 8 GB Ram Super fast pool back end running the incredibly efficient java based PoolserverJ RC7 including its Local WorkMaker Engine with gives work at up to 10X Faster than Traditional Bitcoin RPC Payout system information The proportional payout system has recently become very controversial due to the fact that it is possible for pool hoppers to exploit the system and increase their profits, possibly at the expense of other miners. Proportional payouts are the first payout system ever used in a Bitcoin pool and are still being used today including by the infamous Deepbit Although there are other payout options available to miners and mining pools that are much less exploitable, proportional payouts are still in demand by some miners and it is currently the only payout system that we offer. For more detailed information on all the payout systems available to mining pools including proportional - please follow this link: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_pool_reward_FAQle We believe it should be your choice to pick the pool and the type of payout system you want to use, please use the information available to become acquainted with Proportional payouts, by mining at our pool we assume that you understand how payouts work and that you are willingly choosing to mine Proportional despite the potential for someone to exploit it. We want you to be informed and most of all we want you to mine with us because you want to - we do not want anyone to ever feel like they were tricked or scammed, that is not what we are about. History of A1BitcoinPool.com I have always dreamed of running my own Bitcoin pool, Unfortunately I am not a programmer but through the help of some friends and opensource software I was able to realize this dream. My first attempt at starting a pool was TNTMining.com, There were a lot of mistakes made at TNTMining.com due to my inexperience and that inexperience showed. TNTMining quickly failed and was taken off line. Any miner who submitted any substantial amount of shares at TNTMining.com was paid for their mining even though no blocks were solved at all, I did not want anyone to feel like they were short changed. Although TNTMining.com was a failure I still wanted to give it one more try, so I came up with the idea of A1BitcoinPool.com, I made some changes like putting it on a faster server, and changed the way the site looks and operates. The reason I changed the name was because I wanted a fresh start, it was never about a scam I just did not want the baggage from TNTMining sinking A1BitcoinPool before it even starts, a lot of people throw around the word scammer but the fact of the matter is not a single person can say I have ever scammed them in any way, and I know if you give me and my pool a chance you will see that I am honest and a great person to work with. So please give us a chance and come mine with us and if there is constructive criticism any one has on how I can make improvements - I am always listening! Most of all above everything else I LOVE BITCOIN and I wanted to do something to contribute to it. So come MINE WITH US ! The First Block finder gets a 20 BTC Bonus ! A1 Bitcoin Mining Pool - www.A1BitcoinPool.com0% FEE - PLAIN AND SIMPLE PROP PAYOUTS email a1bitcoinpool@gmail.comp.s. our logo is a complete rip off from A1 Sauce, its supposed to be a joke - lighten up! I wonder what www.kraftbrands.com/a1 will think when they find out that their brand was allegedly used in a scam? |
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Hopping with everyone's hashes and couldn't figure out how to cover up your tracks? It looked suspect from the day it launched, but you proved to it, again. Thanks perp... I feel like a dummy for being "25th Idiot MartyChubbs -18,545" however, it was like a few dollars or about a day of power. Not enough to get bent over... "Get out at 21% on the long shots" I always say. :0 Now for the PPS guys or gals, at least someone got paid, right? |
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