Josef misquoted/attributed Steffoboy with Crazy's comment in a reply and all went to heck.  I think Josef and Steffoboy are on the same team, the good side.  Shake hands gentlemen.

This is what you said:
It's completely obvious to anyone who's invested in Veri  thats been around since the beginning, your here to stir up shit for your own self interest. "

This implies that if u have a complaint about the price, if you hasent been at the ico price and should shut up, else you spread fud.
You dont even understand what you are saying dont you, why do you even argue about being here in the beginning, what bearing has that, if its not like im saying. Dont hit that pipe no more dude

You must be really dumb. The problem is just that that you want people that has not been here since the beginning, cause its them that makes the price go up, if its just the same  owners as in the Ico, price would be roughly the same also. So you think that only the ones that has not lost anything in reality has the right to complain, thats a hilarious comment. Are you a seasoned veteran now cuz u been holding for a few months more than any other? That was funny, and its pure bs, to argue that the hack was nothing is saying that to hell with the people that lose real money. An ico holder is only losing theoretical profit, anyone that bought after the hack has lost real dollars. If they sold that is, so this seems to makes the cause, and might have costed a big part of the community, its not likely they will come back again.

when 98% is in one location its hardly decentralized. The price dump has hurt the confidence more, its easy to be wise after, and thats what im saying, its to late now. Who could know what to do at that time. I guess not using a hot wallet would have been best, i just dont know why there was a need to have it semi online. Stop callling people noob just cause you dont think you are noob also.

when 98% is in one location its hardly decentralized. The price dump has hurt the confidence more, its easy to be wise after, and thats what im saying, its to late now. Who could know what to do at that time. I guess not using a hot wallet would have been best, i just dont know why there was a need to have it semi online. Stop callling people noob just cause you dont think you are noob also.

Videos are great for marketing, but plain english, indexable and searchable in text will make this information available to a much wider audience.

Can anybody clarify this for me:

Lets say there is a 12,000 pound invoice and the seller wants to sell it now for 11,000 pounds. I can buy the invoice with my PPT worth 11,000 pounds and the seller gets that. When the invoice is paid back by the seller I get my PPTs back and 1000 worth of Pokens.
When I want to cash out those Pokens do I have to sell em on an exchange? I mean they are not real pounds just tokens right? Or can I swap them for "real" money on the Populous platform?

also iOS app will be released latest on 31 aug 2017 maybe even earlier  

Hi, If you don't mind me asking did you order before or after the queuing system was introduced?

I can see you are native gamblers , even Bitcoins' BIP91 is gonna get a betting, that's amazing and also too hard to predict, I would stay out of this since those 80% miner support must be constant (I think so), difficulty task to discipline and coordinate all the hash power among those. Even if Segwit2x succeed now, the November part will need to have 100% miners support to 2MB block size, tough job.

I think Onehash may add this bet on their site.

Fortunejack, I think obviously knows that already as it's a must thing to do to suspend any bitcoin transaction while everything is not yet cleared.

But Im agree with the poster above that chain split is not likely will happened based on the current status of miners approval.

You cant be more wrong.. that YOU can't do it doesn't mean someone can't do it. Go to the video and every time you write "free bitcoins" on the chat you will see your name on the video. Also when payment is sent they show on the video too and post same transaction ID on the chat.

In last month around in june i found thread starting charly lee joining LTC after leaving Coinbase in that timeprice was around 20$ -25$ but i dint believe one man cant change anything but now price is 40$+ .

What I understand is that if Rialto.ai uses $10 mil of the collected contribution to run its arb/market-making operations and eventually turn out $20 mil profit, 100% of that $20 mil profit will be equally distributed (according to our % ownership of XRL token) to us in the form of ETH. And this will be done once every 6 months.

The project is very interesting and you have forgotten that who own XRL tokens (from Whitepaper):

"(xrl token) grants ownership rights
to RIALTO.AI proprietary software, data  tools, algorithms, and other intellectual property"

You own quite a lot with this!!

"100% of additional net value created will be distributed semi-annually through distribution of ETH via
smart  contract
.  Eligible  for  distribution  are  all  RIALTO.AI  (XRL)  token  holders  on  a  predetermined
record date."

also this is very good

Because marketcap is price.

Step 1. Imagine you were offered a 1000th share in a new Audi A3 for 8$. What would you do ?....you'd have no clue until you multiplied 8 x 1000 to determine what the seller valued their vehicle at, in this case $8000. The book value of an Audi A3 is $40k, so you'd conclude the deal was good and make the purchase.

Step 2. Now imagine there were actually 5000 shares and unknown to you the balance of 4000 were being sold to other buyers "under the counter". What would happen when this information became widely available ?

1. The value of the car would stay the same (Book value still = $40k)
2. The market (i.e. "you") would immediately revalue your unit share down by 80% to account for the newly reported unit liquidity

That's the recipe by which Veritaseum has gained such a high Token to Coin ratio at the moment.

Now consider the Audi A3 example in terms of "marketcaps" (i.e. we see the value of the car as the 'marketcap' of the issued shares. Never mind whether they're circulating or not, it's the 'issued' shares that we're interested in).

Go back to step 1. When you originally were offered the price of 8$ per share, if you now use the correct unit supply factor to calculate the price of the Audi A3 you'll arrive at the full $40k. (Your $8 unit price x 5000). You compare that to a VW Gold at $30k and decide it's a bad deal.

What swung your decision in each case was the marketcap of your asset (=price of the car). That's the only handle you had in each case on the value of what you were being offered. You calculated that in the first case you were being offered an asset at below market price, in the second case you were being offered an asset above market price.

This is why Ethereum blockchain issuers do this trick of "holding back" tokens. It's nothing to do with garnering network effect and everything to do with passing risk from the issuer to the investor because the issuer is left holding all the capital while the investor is left holding bags of worthless tokens that took the issuer about 2 minutes to create.

In a classic equity exchange this doesn't happen, because your invested capital is held by the company in which you own shares, so your shares are worth something even if the entrepreneurial idea is crap. In token investments however you don't get squat of the issuers equity, just a bunch of tokens backed by a few lines of code.

P.S. Mined coins are a whole different case which is why I made a distinction between "coins" and "tokens" in a previous post. With mined coins, issuance is decentralised and an ICO entity cannot determine the distribution.