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3641  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins destroyed if unused, to keep bitcoin supply known? on: January 22, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
People are regularly forced to convert paper money to new notes or lose the value. It is the exact same principle.

Most countries also have principles to apply to abandon properties and accumulated wealth with no inheritor that in the end returns it to the state.

Are these also unfair practices?

If you like state-issued fiat money with state rules, stick with that. Why try to recreate a failed system?

As has been stated numerous times, this is a hard fork - so go ahead, make the changes you propose, release them, fork the blockchain, and see how many people follow you to your new alt-coin.

Many people are hoping someone someone actually follows through and does it instead of talking about it and doing nothing while expecting someone else to do the work for them.  The code is on github. If everyone follows you'll be a hero.
3642  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins destroyed if unused, to keep bitcoin supply known? on: January 21, 2014, 09:16:47 PM
Turns out removing the newbie restrictions WAS a good idea after all.
</sarcasm>

It gave people time to learn how to search and read a lot about bitcoin so they'd see a lot of topics have been discussed and then they can join in them if they wish.  ;-)  Preventing 1000s of duplicate threads.
3643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Decreasing rewards on: January 21, 2014, 11:22:07 AM
The optimal crypto currency should have a built in algorithm for price stability, just like central banks try to target 1-2% inflation.

It can be done by letting an algorithm base the reward on:
*number of transactions per day
*number of addresses
*number of miners
*price of XYZ_Coin vs XAU...


Yeah, good luck with designing that algorithm ...
Or we could assign Ben Shalom Bernanke as the chairman of Central Bank of Bitcoinistan to handle the monetary policy of Bitcoin. Central banks are not as bad as people in this forum believes, the Fed has actually been pretty good at keeping prices of goods in USDollars more or less stable year to year.

True, if you define stable to mean losing 95% of its value in a human lifetime (my grandmother live to be about 100).  Ditto for the Canadian dollar etc. Or half it's value in 20-25 years.


3644  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Code access on: January 20, 2014, 11:19:49 PM

U have given me the code link, but I know this. I wanted to know, just like Gavin can modify and release a next version of Bitcoin-QT, how can I ? What is required to be part of the Bitcoin core development team ?

Did you read the words under development process on that page?

Yes, I read it before I post this topic. Read this...

Quote
If it is a simple/trivial/non-controversial change, then one of the Bitcoin development team members simply pulls it.

Bitcoin development team members - So they are the code master. So they control the code ? Why ? I want to control the code as well. How ?


It kind of sounds like you don't understand how open source software works.  Anyone can control their copy of the code.  If there is something you want to control and implement, go to the link above, download it and make the changes you want.  If everyone else likes the changes and wants to use them they will, if they don't, then they won't and you may have a fork.  Just like there are a number of different bitcoin clients that implement the protocol, you can do so too, either from the code referenced above or from scratch.

If you want to be part of the core devs of https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin, make a substantial contribution in doing some coding, testing etc.  Take part in the community and earn the respect by writing quality code, that is well tested, well documented, and useful.  Essentially do the things under this link:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin#development-process



U probably missed my first question and judged me on my last answer. I asked about the process of getting into core dev team. Have anyone really been the part of core dev team after BTC touched $1000 last year. AFAIK NO. You are talking about, if people like. So what, if people like and use ? My code will be accepted. Will I be accepted in the core team ? Is anyone really allowed there anymore ? It seems this is becoming dictatorship, if there is no well defined way to be part of the core dev team. If everyone else likes the changes is not a well defined process.

p.s. Bitcoin is not like Mozilla. It is a financial project claiming decentralized currency. Effect on the code changes of Bitcoin has far wider effect than changes on Mozilla.

Just because you don't like the answer does not change it. Write lots of quality, tested code etc as above.   Or write your own client etc.

Remember, changes to the code are different than changes to the protocol.

3645  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 19-1-2014 Romanian Bitcoin Billionaire saves OpenBSD on: January 20, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
Hopefully the "hoard" those bitcoins for some time.  :-)
3646  Economy / Economics / Re: Canada's government is printing it's own digital currency? on: January 20, 2014, 09:02:17 PM
so if this is the first version of a Government coin, what does that hold in store for bitcoin?

IMO it's a different beast entirely. It's tied to the CAD, and as such is more of a stable currency.. while bitcoin is an open source smart/programmable commodity.

I think they can coexist and be used for different purposes.

If by stable you mean losing 94% of its value between 1914 and 2005 (http://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/appendixa.pdf)

:-)
3647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: 48 hours and still unconfirmed? on: January 20, 2014, 08:52:34 PM
It is showing up other places - assuming it was 0.0750 BTC  going from 1JJ6QjNpE1DSr7x1wwtLh5TtCk5rm3fhvd to 17oUDTDPgZ961o1sasbYS1YrtWD7ha1UAu .  Is that correct?


It will in all likelihood go through eventually, but with no fee, and no confirmations there are no guarantees as to when.

If you are doing this in the future, it is recommended to always use a fee unless you trust the person or don't care about the length of time to confirm.
3648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Code access on: January 20, 2014, 08:42:43 PM

U have given me the code link, but I know this. I wanted to know, just like Gavin can modify and release a next version of Bitcoin-QT, how can I ? What is required to be part of the Bitcoin core development team ?

Did you read the words under development process on that page?

Yes, I read it before I post this topic. Read this...

Quote
If it is a simple/trivial/non-controversial change, then one of the Bitcoin development team members simply pulls it.

Bitcoin development team members - So they are the code master. So they control the code ? Why ? I want to control the code as well. How ?


It kind of sounds like you don't understand how open source software works.  Anyone can control their copy of the code.  If there is something you want to control and implement, go to the link above, download it and make the changes you want.  If everyone else likes the changes and wants to use them they will, if they don't, then they won't and you may have a fork.  Just like there are a number of different bitcoin clients that implement the protocol, you can do so too, either from the code referenced above or from scratch.

If you want to be part of the core devs of https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin, make a substantial contribution in doing some coding, testing etc.  Take part in the community and earn the respect by writing quality code, that is well tested, well documented, and useful.  Essentially do the things under this link:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin#development-process

3649  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: 48 hours and still unconfirmed? on: January 20, 2014, 08:29:48 PM
The transaction doesn't even show up now on blockchain.info - "Transaction not found".  There are many variables with no fee transactions such as where it was sent from, the pools which have it in memory, the number of transactions waiting etc.
3650  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-01-20] Five reasons why Bitcoin is the most dangerous currency in the worl on: January 20, 2014, 08:11:05 PM
How many "facts" can someone who has done even cursory research get wrong in 191 words?  Lots, not even getting within 1 million of the correct number.  The "analysis" was equally as bad. "Private and totally anonymous"?  Really.
3651  Economy / Economics / Re: "The Feds Are Ready To Sell $25 Million of Bitcoin. on: January 20, 2014, 12:05:14 PM
The Feds Are Ready To Sell $25 Million of Bitcoin Seized From The Silk Road

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/01/16/the-feds-are-ready-to-sell-the-silk-road-bitcoin-kind-of/?utm_campaign=techtwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social



Title says all; What I do like to see is a discussion about this.

What are your thoughts? Will they sell or will they hold?  IF they sell, how big will the impact be on the bitcoinmarket?
I know it is all speculation but I love these discussions!

Throw in your emotions and thoughts.

Cheers,
Clyze

If you want to see discussion about it, here are two of many threads already doing so:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421646.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=419716.0

3652  Economy / Economics / Re: Talk of China economy collapsing in 3rd/4th Qrt 2014 reaching Fever Pitch on: January 20, 2014, 09:14:59 AM
If true, this won't be a positive for China either:

Mega Default in China at end of January. 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2014/01/19/mega-default-in-china-scheduled-for-january-31/
3653  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Running bitcoind on Amazon AWS (EC2) help on: January 20, 2014, 08:53:49 AM
You'll want your own EBS to store the blockchain and it will be persistent.  Amazon has lots of information detailing it.
3654  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Running bitcoind on Amazon AWS (EC2) help on: January 19, 2014, 11:52:06 PM
You may want to look at the ec2 ebs which is persistent. I use it for two of my servers (not bitcoin) an for 6 years now have been happy with its reliability.

As far as usage goes, I am not sure off the top of my head it has been so long.
3655  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Problem of Bitcoin Anonymity on: January 18, 2014, 10:08:42 PM
This is a feature.  No chargebacks is a positive.

If you are concerned about trusting the other party, then you would use a contract or use escrow.  If the other party is honest they will have no problem doing that.  If they are not honest, then they won't do it and you won't do business with them.
3656  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Democratic manipulation of the Silk Road 29,655 bitcoins on: January 18, 2014, 05:59:34 PM
"I don't like manipulated markets, so lets manipulate the market."

I will sell all of my altcoins which are created when you fork Bitcoin for this purpose and use those funds to purchase actual bitcoins.

I hope you, and everyone else who favors these types of measures, enjoy your new altcoin! Sincerely. Maybe then you will stop trying to turn Bitcoin into something it is not.

How about u stick a fork in your ass

This is how you respond to someone who fully supports your idea?

Look. I want you to fork Bitcoin into the altcoin-where-you-can-freeze-addresses-at-a-whim. I want the opportunity to see these two coins compete in the market. I want to show you how miserably your fork will fail because no one wants to hold an asset that can be frozen at a whim. I want that failure to point to when someone like you says again in the future that we should freeze an address because they dislike the owner.

The main reason that I want you to fork Bitcoin is so that I can sell my altcoins-where-you-can-freeze-addresses-at-a-whim to people who support that kind of thing and purchase more actual bitcoins for myself.

So, please, get this ball rolling!

I too am on board. The people who keep suggesting it just need to get busy, implement it and set a fork date. It will be a banner day and something that will be very illustrative.
3657  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2014-01-17 Venture Beat - How ... could catalyze a new digital civilization on: January 18, 2014, 04:58:14 PM
http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/17/iamsatoshi-how-an-alliance-of-bitcoin-traders-could-catalyze-a-new-digital-civilization/

A thought provoking article on the long term implications of bitcoin - proposing an active, global alliance to promote worldwide adoption.

The implications portion was interesting, I agree.

They lost me with the proposal that want to put tax the exchanges to raise money to fund a foundation that will promote bitcoin in a transparent way. 

Personally, I don't like the forced centralization idea - never mind the fact that it would be nearly impossible to get all exchanges to do it. Fine, start another foundation, get people to join voluntarily and let everyone else promote bitcoin in their own way. 

Bitcoin is about p2p decentralization and people having the freedom to join others who believe the same.

Thanks for posting that - a worthwhile read.
3658  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Democratic manipulation of the Silk Road 29,655 bitcoins on: January 18, 2014, 08:57:35 AM
"I don't like manipulated markets, so lets manipulate the market."

I will sell all of my altcoins which are created when you fork Bitcoin for this purpose and use those funds to purchase actual bitcoins.

I hope you, and everyone else who favors these types of measures, enjoy your new altcoin! Sincerely. Maybe then you will stop trying to turn Bitcoin into something it is not.

How about u stick a fork in your ass

Nice way to react.  Face it, this is a hard fork, if you think it is a good idea to ruin fungibility, go ahead and fork the clients and the blockchain then see how many people agree and use your fork.

A poll here does nothing, make the changes to the code and let people be free to decide.
3659  Economy / Economics / Re: My bank account's got robbed by European Commission. Over 700k is lost. on: January 17, 2014, 09:21:24 PM
Two recent events in particular show that the US is a pale shadow of the freedom-loving law-abiding democracy founded in 1776:

1). Tapper lying to congress and getting away with it.
2). Corzine mixing client and prop funds and getting away with it.

So, yes, in the wasteland ruins of the 1776 idealism money cannot be safe in any financial institution.


+1

Things like these articles make the point - and it is happening all over:

1. Think Tank: 'Extraordinary Crisis' Needed to Preserve 'New World Order'.
http://www.infowars.com/think-tank-extraordinary-crisis-needed-to-preserve-new-world-order/

2.Rich Chinese continue to flee China
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101345275

3. Obama's NSA Proposals Fall Far Short of Real Change
http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/obama-s-nsa-proposals-fall-far-short-of-real-change-20140117


Freedom is under assault from all over the world.
3660  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-01-17] France plans to regulate Bitcoin and create a European foundation on: January 17, 2014, 11:25:55 AM
A European foundation is just what EURO needs.

It wasn't too clear, but if France (as in the French government) intends to create a European foundation, that is bad because then it will be under their thumb.  If it won't be government created, this is good.

I am curious how long until the word "bitcoin" runs afoul of the French language police like they try to ban "email", "blog", and "fast food".  Lol.
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