One way to "not bow to them" would be to stop putting worthless coins out onto the market which can be manipulated so easily.  It's really a dog-eat-dog world out there man and if you keep getting eaten then I think the thing to do is look at yourself and how you're making yourself vunerable and reconsider your actions.  If it's simply that you want to be the one manipulating and they're not letting you then, again, this means that you're not doing it right, not that someone else is doing it wrong.

One thing that's guaranteed not to help is frothing at the mouth and shouting.  It really just makes you look even weaker.

i dont think all dev think that way i dont think like that
traders i have no problem with them, I like trader and never have i insult trader

wow, do you know how crazy you sound bro? It's starting to sound a lot like jealousy to me man

This is an unregulated market, so the gates are wide open for people to rig the odds for themselves. Maybe you should get out of crypto if you don't agree with their practices

No disrespect intended, just my two cents

+1 they are angry because it used to be a developers market, now it's a traders market, so all of their hard work in creating coins is actually now making traders richer

you people do not listin?

i told you they want to control

this is what they plan for us here



PUMP AND DUMP IS ILLEGAL

No more pump here from this groups No more pump,for you people you make money, but someone else will lost monye

This is not fair way to do here. It should be fair and open for everyone here to do their own business not because you pump groups want to do secret deals on us

I keep to say here and I will never remove! You will make money but we who cannot afford you, we do not know which of the coin that you are pumping so yes we are angry with you people because it is not fair to us

Maybe you do here for free for us at least maybe once or two time, or you just want us to look you make money?

if you do not than i am sure that is you people do not care about us you only want to be here for pump and dump and this is not honest

I do not care if you make million dollar here if it is dirty then it is not clean and honest money so i will not

Leave this place for us to do honest trading, no more pump here

you "poor old developers" get no sympathy

this is what you have done to traders for years, now you guys are getting a taste of your own medicine and you're complaining?

What is involved in joining this group?

all of the pump groups have already cashed out and taken there money, more than 200 btc. Stay away

this was just a game for them

if you are not with them then DO NOT trade

it is very dangerous because you do not know what they are planning

i warned you guys that ryans group have their hands in this coin. All of my calculations are showing that they have made $50,000 from this already

STAY AWAY

CJ,

I'm just now reading some of the threads about the RP Group (I am not involved or a member of the group) and I'm curious if you'd be willing to say more or point me to more info on this statement from your post: "[T]hey are bribing exchanges and they are doing all sorts of closed door shady deals."  If this is true, that'd be pretty wild.

Not concern trolling or any other trollin' - just following up on something that caught my eye.  

This is the thing most developers dont look at traders as human beings. Just look at all that bs the guy is spewing, then he will want us to go buy his coins? If their coins are being hijacked then so be it, maybe they will finally realize that they can no longer just walk all over us traders

From what i have seen, and i have been observing for several months, ryan teaches how manipulation works on his website and in his thread.

I'm still playing with 1 - 5 btc, but I made 0.6 btc after reading the whole vtc post that he made

Maybe you have a grudge against the group?

LOOOL when the devs backs are turned, we come in like



Don't blame us, blame the market

Some people live without money and they are happy that way

Yeah so here you are bragging to everyone because you guys cheat the system every week am I supposed to be impressed or something?

I hate to discuss "private" matters here but I have personally worked with ryan before and I know how he operates. This is why I brought up bots and the whole 9. He's heavily into that shit because when you have your own servers you can work bots in multiple coins at a time without having to physically be there

You can setup your bots, head out to the beach (or whatever the fuck this guy does) and come home to 50btc of profit easily without breaking a sweat. You can do this every fucking day if you want

I am not a trader, I develop coins and make my money that way.

After working with ryan once on a "small job" that we paid him good money for (40btc) I used his services again to help my team accumulate a % of a certain coin. This is how I know ryan is working bots all over this market because with this coin that we were dealing with, you couldn't place a single sell order without 5 small orders undercutting you. Professional manipulation

He forced sell resistance higher with sell orders totaling 20btc which jammed up the coin and caused people to dump on our buys. Granted, the whole thing was done very impressively and he has obviously put together a pretty decent machine, no complaints there. What pissed me off is the total lack of empathy this guy has

His asking price for this service was 70btc to which we all agreed upon, we even ponied up 15btc upfront. Now with the price of this coin shot to shit, and the job done. Ryan, out of the fucking blue, asks for the remaining 65btc..... but how the fuck could we pay him right away without the price of the coin lifting first? I explained this to him 50 times but he didn't budge because he didn't "trust" us WTF ryan?

He kept his sell walls on the coin and kept his bots running.... basically holding us to ransom until we paid this 65btc

Now I'm all for manipulation, the market cant function without it. But what I value more than anything else is ethical manipulation, you don't break the gentleman's code over some BS like this

sure, maybe we should have had our shit together before bringing ryan on board but sometimes, in business, you have to understand that you need to take risks to make MORE money!! ryan didn't want to take that risk with us and basically hung us out to dry

We ended up paying him 10btc per day last week before he decided to remove his "sell pressure"

im sure ass kissers and cronies are thinking "if you want a service you have to pay for it" and "nothings for free" blah blah.. well fuck you! In business, it's give and take. Ryan wanted to get paid first and that's understandable, but we didn't have the dough to pay him so he could have helped us out on that front and given us a little leeway

i'm not a ryan hater like the rest... hell, the guy teaches how the market is manipulated and how to profit from it, that's respectable..  i have made good money here and there. I am just disappointed with the way he has treated my team and feel like it was wrong and could have been handled differently

great trader, but hes a miser and him and his group only make money because they manipulate the fuck out of this market. Every day they fill up on some random coin (like NKT). Then, out of the blue, this random shitcoin is pumping like hell and they only people that profit is ryan and his group,, not my type of scene

hell manipulation is there for all to see so I will profit from this regardless

You could even call me a manipulator, who gives a shit. In this market you're either fucking someone in the ass or getting fucked yourself. I don't care how much money you make in the process, if you get into bed with ryan you're shaking hands with the devil himself. I would much rather slug it out in the market and make money on my own, all it's gonna take is some elbow grease but im not scared to work hard. Fuck taking the easy route, that's for pussies who don't care about the guy the other side of the trade

You do realize you can buy an advanced trade / arbitrage bot for less than half a BTC and set it up yourself, right? It's a pretty level playing field if you don't expect anyone to do your work for you.

On January 23rd, SPR fell into a quagmire of what seemed to be an endless pit of decline, and as a rule – the ‘majority’ of traders in this market believe that a decline in price is “irreversible,” which is interestingly what causes them to refer to coins like this as “dead,” whilst skilled traders refer to coins that are in this type of condition as “cheap” and therefore ripe for accumulation.

Starting on January 23rd, SPR declined from 69,960 Satoshi by 96% and settled at 2,507 Satoshi on March 12th.

Dude, you were kissing his ass in his thread. Now you're telling people not to listen to him. Which is it?