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in for the week ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) lets get to accumulating ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Missed NKT, hopefully I catch the rest
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January 20, 2015, 11:22:54 PM |
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Aside from all this fancy professional knowledge trading stuff ryan posts... how the fuck is he moving all of these coins? You are a complete and total idiot if you think any of this shit is natural!
NKT just get's a fat 20btc injection that pumps it from 51 to 140 in one fucking day and somehow he knew all of this weeks before? There is NO WAY that someone can predict hundreds of pumps every single fucking week like this. Its IMPOSSIBLE!
I don't care whatever you call it, accumulation or whatever. You fuckers have inside knowledge.
I am looking at the NKT chart now and I am seeing pre-buys where this group has been gathering coins. Loads of fucking pre buys since the 12th of jan, so "ryan" and his "group" obviously know something that they aren't telling us here.
Ryan and his group must be working hand in hand with the devs (maybe they ARE the devs) or have whales with big money making these pumps just appear wherever they want. There is just no reason at all for NKT to have this kind of price rise. There were no news releases, yet in a matter of days the price is pumping?
Obviously there is something else happening behind the scenes that they are not speaking about here. Ryan pretends to teach us how to trade but I know FOR SURE that he is manipulating the market. If it isn't inside information then he is working bots all over this market.
If you look at all his past picks, some coins he doesn't pump again and others he keeps going back to. It is clear that ryan has his hands in multiple coins at a time and is manipulating everything. While he is telling us to "look at the charts" him and his fucking "group" are "accumulating" coins while we are distracted. Then all of a sudden random coins like NKT are pumping out of the blue for no reason and only ryan and his group benefits. Fucking manipulators. Typical pump and dump
There is obviously something going on that Ryan does to "make things pump" because there is no way you can predict hundreds of pumps, weeks before they happen for all of these months.
I know you do give some good information, but CUT THE CRAP and tell us what you are doing to move all of these coins. Which bots are you using ryan?? Which devs are in your group?? Give us the good stuff, don't just treat us like fucking idiots so that we can try and track your every move only for you to pump some random shit NKT coin??
NKT didn't even have any major news to even justify this kinda jump in price... So WTF???
No movement happens like this unless it is unatural
If anyone here is down, I think I know exactly what type of bots ryan is using and which devs are working with him. The bots may be a little on the expensive side, but let's gather a troop of devs and run our own manipulation. I was going to join ryan but thats what lazy, loser types do who don't wanna do any real work.. they just want to kiss ryans ass and whore themselves out for some tip-offs so that they can manipulate the entire market just to make bank. You guys may be making money, but not my type of crowd, i have pride!
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January 20, 2015, 11:30:03 PM |
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Why do you have to manipulated the market? This one is no honor for me. You will pump and dump on us. You say now which coin you will pump because this is not fair for small trader
This market has no honor. I am honest trader and I will make my money slowly I dont need fast. This money you make is dirty and not clean
this place is not for whale
Every morning at 9Am and every afternoon at 3 PM 5 banks in London sit a nice big table, get thier coffee and sodas handed to them in crystal glasses by peons like you, and they literally manipulate the Gold and silver markets. EVERY SINGLE DAY. every month the COMEX and JP Morgan, those same 5 banks from up above, Chase Manhattan, Bank of America, Barclays and many other huge banks illegally collude and manipulate the commodities markets. Every single day energy and oil companies collude illegally to manipulate their markets. every day huge corporations, not the shareholders, the corporations themselves find ways to manipulate the price for thier stocks any way they can. Price manipulation is part of the market. Be happy you are not a real trader fighting the banks buying gold when it should be rising just to hear COMEX sold 500,000 USD in gold contracts. Just so you know Gold contracts are not even real gold they are IOUs that should in no way actually effect the market as they do, but cause people to lose millions of dollars on the gold market every day. and the only ones who knows what will happen are the already rich banks. people like us are the ones that get screwed. At least here we have a chance, you can be an honest , but stupid trader. make your money "honestly" and earn your 0.00700000 a day trading, or you can jump on board with the whales and not make as much as them but still make 5 to 10 times as much as you are. Just make sure the P&D group you join is fair as it can be. the owners of the P&D will always make more than you. they have known what coin will be P&D'd for a week, and have bought in and already have their sell points long before they announce the coin to the members, and then use the rest of thier purchasing power to panic the market during the pump. But you know what, as an retired commodities trader I love the thrill of a pump and dump, theres nothing like that other than sitting with a long or short trade in waiting for some economic report to be released and just waiting for the money to fall in your lap. In the crypto world anyone has a chance to make it, even you may get lucky one day and hop on a trade that is being pumped and you wont even know whats up, and you will sell yourself short because traders like you are happy making 50 satoshi per coin in profit. But imagine if you knew what was going to happen you could then make 300 or 500 even up to 1500 satoshi per coin profit. Currency markets are not made for the long haul, why do you think Im not in commodities anymore, you get in you hit it big and you get out. staring at charts and reading and everyting involved in educated trading is very tiring, everyone, even you, everyone in trading wants the big payout that allows them to move on to bigger and better things. just scour around the internet, you will see the P&Ds that were here 2 years ago arent here anymore, why becasue they all made it big and got out, and the ones we see today wont be here in a couple years. it an ever revolving circus train and your either on board and make it big and ride that train all the way to profits, or your sitting and watching as we all pass you by. the difference is here in the crypto world they are somewhat transparant, we know they are there, we know its happening. in teh real world where your trading with banks, you never know, they will move a market in ways it should not be moved, all against any analysis. to have over 200+ consecutive wins in the commodities market with trade volumes of 1 to 3 like me is a very hard task to accomplish. in crypto if you ever have a lost trade its because you dont know your ass from a hole in the ground and should not be trading. crypto is a win win PERIOD ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 20, 2015, 11:50:38 PM Last edit: January 21, 2015, 12:02:35 AM by cyberpinoy |
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Aside from all this fancy professional knowledge trading stuff ryan posts... how the fuck is he moving all of these coins? You are a complete and total idiot if you think any of this shit is natural!
NKT just get's a fat 20btc injection that pumps it from 51 to 140 in one fucking day and somehow he knew all of this weeks before? There is NO WAY that someone can predict hundreds of pumps every single fucking week like this. Its IMPOSSIBLE!
Blah Blah Blah rant and rave
Ok let me help you man. first it is very easy to predict a pump weeks before it happens becasue in order for a pump to work it must be prepped. step 1. the group owner buys in and continues to buy small amount of coins to go unnoticed. and buys ans buys and buys. this culd last 1 to 3 weeks or even longer if he wishes. Step 2. tell your members what coin will be pumped and what day to pump it, then begin to buy buy buy as unnoticed as possible. (how unnoticed, buying small amonts that will not move a market. Step 3, the dedicated socialists of the groups begin to pump the coin. in whatever way they can. Step 4 wait till it hits the ceiling and SELL SELL SELL. Now in the prep phase the owners have already bought a lot fo the coins, and have them set already in predetermined sale points, along with the coins they have just bought in the pump that actually moves the market. the make a nice profit in their predetermined sale points and the most fo their profit from the pump. It is not hard to move a market. now why does he go back to certain coins, very simple, they are popular, they have large movements that would coincide perfectly with a pump. Popular coins or coins that have frequent updates that move its market are great pump and dump opportunities. They are easy to pump because the news is already there and you can push that news to push the market. people are always watching popular coins so when they see a 20 BTC movement on a coin they know its time to get in and hope they didnt miss the train. I advise you research a bit into P&D and how it works, a lot of your concerns will be answered there. becasue I know the answer to every question yu have up there, and yes it is possible. and FYI the whole purpose of being a member of a P&D is to have the insiders info. and no I am not part of Ryans group (if he even has one).
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January 21, 2015, 12:02:00 AM |
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now why does he go back to certain coins, very simple, they are popular, they have large movements that would coincide perfectly with a pump. Popular coins or coins that have frequent updates that move its market are great pump and dump opportunities. They are easy to pump because the news is already there and you can push that news to push the market. people are always watching popular coins so when they see a 20 BTC movement on a coin they know its time to get in and hope they didnt miss the train.
I advise you research a bit into P&D and how it works, a lot of your concerns will be answered there. becasue I know the answer to every question yu have up there, and yes it is possible.
and FYI the whole purpose of being a member of a P&D is to have the insiders info. and no I am not part of Ryans group.
I get it but what i DONT get is HOW a shitcoin like NKT pumps out of the fucking blue with no news or even any hype, but he gives his members this information weeks in advance? How does that happen? I am all for not having to do any work to make the big bucks from trading but, lets face it, every coin that is taken in profit is someone elses loss there is no reason why a small segment of the community should have any kind of advantage over everyone else, just my 2 cents
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January 21, 2015, 12:06:28 AM |
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now why does he go back to certain coins, very simple, they are popular, they have large movements that would coincide perfectly with a pump. Popular coins or coins that have frequent updates that move its market are great pump and dump opportunities. They are easy to pump because the news is already there and you can push that news to push the market. people are always watching popular coins so when they see a 20 BTC movement on a coin they know its time to get in and hope they didnt miss the train.
I advise you research a bit into P&D and how it works, a lot of your concerns will be answered there. becasue I know the answer to every question yu have up there, and yes it is possible.
and FYI the whole purpose of being a member of a P&D is to have the insiders info. and no I am not part of Ryans group (if he even has one).
I get it but what i DONT get is HOW a shitcoin like NKT pumps out of the fucking blue with no news or even any hype, but he gives his members this information weeks in advance? How does that happen? I am all for not having to do any work to make the big bucks from trading but, lets face it, every coin that is taken in profit is someone elses loss it depends on the popularity fo the coin man, maybe he has some info about what goes on itside that coins community. maybe he researches the coins thoroughly and knows when something is happening. as an investor of over 40 coins I can tell you not everything there is to know about a coin is on BTT (Bitcoin talk) all coins have their own community and most of them have their own chat or forum. theres where the juicy info is about a coin. the ANN comes here long after the coins community knows about it. But a lot could be what is called Panic trading. Whenever a popular coin starts to move and move big the traders panic and think they are in late to a P&D so they buy and buy and buy and buy. a simple quick movement of a coin can rake you in 50 to 200% profit and you dont even have to be a member of a group, you just need enough purchasing power.
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January 21, 2015, 02:26:10 AM |
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Aside from all this fancy professional knowledge trading stuff ryan posts... how the fuck is he moving all of these coins? You are a complete and total idiot if you think any of this shit is natural!
NKT just get's a fat 20btc injection that pumps it from 51 to 140 in one fucking day and somehow he knew all of this weeks before? There is NO WAY that someone can predict hundreds of pumps every single fucking week like this. Its IMPOSSIBLE!
I don't care whatever you call it, accumulation or whatever. You fuckers have inside knowledge.
It's easy CryptoJerk. There are around 200 markets on BITTREX: https://bittrex.com/StatusOf these, a few hundred BTC gets swashed around daily, some coins have large huge traffic, sometimes the funds are split across several smaller coins. Some coins get pumped once a year, some coins get pumped twice a month. Just consider the yearly cycle: 200 coins, 365 days, one coin per 1.85 days, 3.8 coins per week.This can be TOTALLY RANDOM, you can see Ryan reports 3-5 coins a week. Unfortunately this is really bad, he doesn't catch all of them, not all coins get pumped once a year. So how can you split the 200 markets into the shit tier and the god tier? 1. If it's pumping now, obviously the train is leaving the station... 2. If it is still dropping from the previous pump, that means weak hands drop on further bagholders, the bagholding is strong in this one, people still have hope, they didn't let go yet... 3. If it's flat-lining and you get some sales to prevent it from de-listing every few days, then bored whales collect crap coins from end of line bagholders, the commodity is changing hands from one class of trader to another. 4. There is no 4, it can only be one of the above. So you can easily see, just point at 10 coins every week, that are not pumped now, that are not cooling down, and you can get 4 of them to pump just by chance. It's that easy. You can then put 0.0005 orders every 20-30% on the price curve, and buy all shitcoins at once. When they pump up, you visit your "Wallet" page on bittrex and see shit like 800% or whatever, and sell at least 0.0005 BTC to show your sell price. Screenshot that and there you have it! Here's my totally automated and unattended result for the method described in this thread: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMZ7JUGN.png&t=665&c=Z4oO8PIBkFZAmA) Did I get +1800% or other stupidly impossible numbers? No. It was just a small +13% profit for the visible portion that took 0 calculation or effort while watching some movie.
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January 21, 2015, 10:27:42 AM |
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Aside from all this fancy professional knowledge trading stuff ryan posts... how the fuck is he moving all of these coins? You are a complete and total idiot if you think any of this shit is natural!
NKT just get's a fat 20btc injection that pumps it from 51 to 140 in one fucking day and somehow he knew all of this weeks before? There is NO WAY that someone can predict hundreds of pumps every single fucking week like this. Its IMPOSSIBLE!
No it was actually a 53btc injection that pushed the price from 50 to 179 I don't care whatever you call it, accumulation or whatever. You fuckers have inside knowledge.
I am looking at the NKT chart now and I am seeing pre-buys where this group has been gathering coins. Loads of fucking pre buys since the 12th of jan, so "ryan" and his "group" obviously know something that they aren't telling us here.
It is insiders knowledge and "his group" obviously do know something that isn't being shared publicly. Thats the benefit of being in a private group i suppose ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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CryptoJerk
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January 21, 2015, 12:34:52 PM |
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No it was actually a 53btc injection that pushed the price from 50 to 179 I don't care whatever you call it, accumulation or whatever. You fuckers have inside knowledge.
I am looking at the NKT chart now and I am seeing pre-buys where this group has been gathering coins. Loads of fucking pre buys since the 12th of jan, so "ryan" and his "group" obviously know something that they aren't telling us here.
It is insiders knowledge and "his group" obviously do know something that isn't being shared publicly. Thats the benefit of being in a private group i suppose ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Yeah so here you are bragging to everyone because you guys cheat the system every week am I supposed to be impressed or something? I hate to discuss "private" matters here but I have personally worked with ryan before and I know how he operates. This is why I brought up bots and the whole 9. He's heavily into that shit because when you have your own servers you can work bots in multiple coins at a time without having to physically be there You can setup your bots, head out to the beach (or whatever the fuck this guy does) and come home to 50btc of profit easily without breaking a sweat. You can do this every fucking day if you want I am not a trader, I develop coins and make my money that way. After working with ryan once on a "small job" that we paid him good money for (40btc) I used his services again to help my team accumulate a % of a certain coin. This is how I know ryan is working bots all over this market because with this coin that we were dealing with, you couldn't place a single sell order without 5 small orders undercutting you. Professional manipulation He forced sell resistance higher with sell orders totaling 20btc which jammed up the coin and caused people to dump on our buys. Granted, the whole thing was done very impressively and he has obviously put together a pretty decent machine, no complaints there. What pissed me off is the total lack of empathy this guy has His asking price for this service was 70btc to which we all agreed upon, we even ponied up 15btc upfront. Now with the price of this coin shot to shit, and the job done. Ryan, out of the fucking blue, asks for the remaining 65btc..... but how the fuck could we pay him right away without the price of the coin lifting first? I explained this to him 50 times but he didn't budge because he didn't "trust" us WTF ryan? He kept his sell walls on the coin and kept his bots running.... basically holding us to ransom until we paid this 65btc Now I'm all for manipulation, the market cant function without it. But what I value more than anything else is ethical manipulation, you don't break the gentleman's code over some BS like this sure, maybe we should have had our shit together before bringing ryan on board but sometimes, in business, you have to understand that you need to take risks to make MORE money!! ryan didn't want to take that risk with us and basically hung us out to dry We ended up paying him 10btc per day last week before he decided to remove his "sell pressure" im sure ass kissers and cronies are thinking "if you want a service you have to pay for it" and "nothings for free" blah blah.. well fuck you! In business, it's give and take. Ryan wanted to get paid first and that's understandable, but we didn't have the dough to pay him so he could have helped us out on that front and given us a little leeway i'm not a ryan hater like the rest... hell, the guy teaches how the market is manipulated and how to profit from it, that's respectable.. i have made good money here and there. I am just disappointed with the way he has treated my team and feel like it was wrong and could have been handled differently great trader, but hes a miser and him and his group only make money because they manipulate the fuck out of this market. Every day they fill up on some random coin (like NKT). Then, out of the blue, this random shitcoin is pumping like hell and they only people that profit is ryan and his group,, not my type of scene hell manipulation is there for all to see so I will profit from this regardless You could even call me a manipulator, who gives a shit. In this market you're either fucking someone in the ass or getting fucked yourself. I don't care how much money you make in the process, if you get into bed with ryan you're shaking hands with the devil himself. I would much rather slug it out in the market and make money on my own, all it's gonna take is some elbow grease but im not scared to work hard. Fuck taking the easy route, that's for pussies who don't care about the guy the other side of the trade
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January 21, 2015, 01:07:32 PM |
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He kept his sell walls on the coin and kept his bots running.... basically holding us to ransom until we paid this 65btc
Now I'm all for manipulation, the market cant function without it. But what I value more than anything else is ethical manipulation, you don't break the gentleman's code over some BS like this
That's like jumping into a taxi, paying $10 upfront on a $50 trip and promising to pay the rest when you get to the destination You may pay, but there are no guarantees. So to cover his risk a taxi cab driver would normally ask for payment in full before taking you anywhere No use having this hissy fit great trader, but hes a miser and him and his group only make money because they manipulate the fuck out of this market. Every day they fill up on some random coin (like NKT). Then, out of the blue, this random shitcoin is pumping like hell and they only people that profit is ryan and his group,, not my type of scene We buy cheap and sell dear. Thats called common sense ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You could even call me a manipulator, who gives a shit. In this market you're either fucking someone in the ass or getting fucked yourself. I don't care how much money you make in the process, if you get into bed with ryan you're shaking hands with the devil himself. I would much rather slug it out in the market and make money on my own, all it's gonna take is some elbow grease but im not scared to work hard. Fuck taking the easy route, that's for pussies who don't care about the guy the other side of the trade
This isn't the stock market bro. There are no reverse mergers, no Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 earnings, no buy outs, no brand new products. This is a pure market The only way prices move is if something forces them to. Manipulation or whatever, NKT gave a 250% profit. Don't complain just because you weren't involved ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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January 21, 2015, 01:53:02 PM |
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im sure ass kissers and cronies are thinking "if you want a service you have to pay for it" and "nothings for free" blah blah.. well fuck you! In business, it's give and take. Ryan wanted to get paid first and that's understandable, but we didn't have the dough to pay him so he could have helped us out on that front and given us a little leeway
I'm sure you got what you paid for though right?
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January 21, 2015, 02:01:36 PM |
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im sure ass kissers and cronies are thinking "if you want a service you have to pay for it" and "nothings for free" blah blah.. well fuck you! In business, it's give and take. Ryan wanted to get paid first and that's understandable, but we didn't have the dough to pay him so he could have helped us out on that front and given us a little leeway
I'm sure you got what you paid for though right? Oh definately and then some! Sure he kept his word and maybe even over-delivered. But that isn't the point, im not trying to disparage I'm trying to let everyone know the extent to which you guys manipulate prices in this market. But I know this is how things work. Devs are manipulators, the best traders are manipulators... i fucking get it. Don't get me wrong. I just dont "get" why or where this extra 50btc came from that moved NKT from 57 to 270 that what I want to know. There was no news, no nothing yet nkt is still pumping even as i'm typing this so wtf are you guys doing to move these coins?
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January 21, 2015, 02:07:46 PM |
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I just dont "get" why or where this extra 50btc came from that moved NKT from 57 to 270 that what I want to know. There was no news, no nothing yet nkt is still pumping even as i'm typing this
From members that he's told later in the game, is my guess. You said yourself he is uncaring, most likely a pure narcissist so it would make the most sense - would dump and shit on his members without a second thought.
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January 21, 2015, 02:21:51 PM |
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From members that he's told later in the game, is my guess. You said yourself he is uncaring, most likely a pure narcissist so it would make the most sense - would dump and shit on his members without a second thought.
I doubt it, cause he blatantly teaches everyone even here in this thread how to read charts (accumulation, dirstribution and what hvae you) and showed me live manipulation take place on a coin that will remain unmentioned. So that's one thing I'll give him, he educates his people on whats what which is respectable the only thing I don't get is how 50btc, no small amount, entered nkt in 24 hours and he knew this weeks before. That's what I want to put my fingers on No I'm not trying to start my own competing group, I just want to know what the fuck it is that these guys know that the rest of us dont! Why all the secrets
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January 21, 2015, 02:24:08 PM |
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I just want to know what the fuck it is that these guys know that the rest of us dont! Why all the secrets
It's a private team bro. I can't tell you what happens before or while we are 'filling the boat' ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) but I can tell you what happens afterwards.... Something along the lines of this ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.giphy.com%2FMr6up3HAdozzG.gif&t=665&c=ER2O5-68rvYK7A) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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January 21, 2015, 02:31:53 PM |
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No I'm not trying to start my own competing group, I just want to know what the fuck it is that these guys know that the rest of us dont! Why all the secrets
Because he wants your money to pay for the secrets, uses it to help pump. And hopefully you don't get dumped on. I find it hard to believe you and other people are that naive. Another proof in point, look above at the photos they are posting, gimmicky bullshit to try to suck you in... You really believe the bullshit? Seriously?
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January 21, 2015, 02:47:58 PM |
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I find it hard to believe you and other people are that naive.
Another proof in point, look above at the photos they are posting, gimmicky bullshit to try to suck you in...
I'm a dev, I don't trade I have my own coins on the market and hired ryan for accumulation services I personally paid him 10btc per day, so I know it's not necessarily a money thing for him not sure what he charges for his group, but he charged me 70btc so I assume his group fee is peanuts in comparison overall, I just want people to understand the sheer extent of these guys manipulation you have to assume that they have a hand in every coin on the market at this point and you know what? fuck it! the more tracks they leave on those charts the more money I make and hell, the more they pump the more money I make so it's a win for me regardless. Even if they dump I profit.........profit is profit is goddamn profit I just would wish you guys would share more of your secrets with everyone here, because there is a whole bunch of shit that you aren't saying 50btc entered NKT in 24 hours and these guys knew about it weeks ago so something has to give
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January 21, 2015, 03:06:03 PM |
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I just would wish you guys would share more of your secrets with everyone here, because there is a whole bunch of shit that you aren't saying
50btc entered NKT in 24 hours and these guys knew about it weeks ago so something has to give
Meh.. you're just starting to sound like another shill for Ryan... Nothing really new.
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toleng
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January 21, 2015, 03:16:46 PM |
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I'm a dev, I don't trade I have my own coins on the market and hired ryan for accumulation services
I personally paid him 10btc per day, so I know it's not necessarily a money thing for him
not sure what he charges for his group, but he charged me 70btc so I assume his group fee is peanuts in comparison
overall, I just want people to understand the sheer extent of these guys manipulation
you have to assume that they have a hand in every coin on the market at this point and you know what? fuck it!
the more tracks they leave on those charts the more money I make and hell, the more they pump the more money I make so it's a win for me regardless.
Even if they dump I profit.........profit is profit is goddamn profit
I just would wish you guys would share more of your secrets with everyone here, because there is a whole bunch of shit that you aren't saying
50btc entered NKT in 24 hours and these guys knew about it weeks ago so something has to give
You wouldn't want to burn bridges bro. Just keep doing what you do with your "coins" and "making money regardless," because looking back at some of your posts, it seems you suffer from lack of "empathy" yourself I will agree on one thing, profit is profit. Every trade has a winner and on every trade, someone will lose. I'm sure you're well aware of this too mr.devguy ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . I mean, you're out here talking about how you paid to have some coin manipulated so that you could buy cheaply, and yet you're also complaining saying manipulation is immoral and unfair? Quite hypocritical You bitch and moan about some shitty 50 btc entering NKT overnight? LOL what about the 150 other pumps? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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