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1521  Other / Off-topic / Re: Boundaries of Order on: January 24, 2011, 01:49:29 PM
Thank you for this recommendation. I'm up to page 50 now, and finding it interesting and worthwhile.
1522  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Building computer for mining on: January 24, 2011, 10:38:53 AM
... there is an addictive adventure side to the mining process

There's that "rush" when you use the computer in the morning and you see that it says "Generated: +50.00". There's also that "downer" when you have gone weeks without generating.
1523  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Advertising Clearinghouse Bounty (1400 BTC or 350 USDs of BTC) by Noagendamarket on: January 23, 2011, 10:30:03 PM
One other thing I was thinking about is a sort of "pre-emptive" approval of ads. A list with all ads, that you can say if you like or not for your sites.
Yes, pre-emptive approval (or disapproval) would be great.

As for stats, advertisers are going to want them so that they can set their bids. But it's not urgent.
1524  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin has gone over $0.40 on mtgox on: January 23, 2011, 09:54:05 PM
Who would want to spend a currency which is doomed to rise in the long term ?

Who would want to sell stuff for a currency which is likely to rise in the long term? Oh yeah, everyone. So the two sides to this equation work in opposite directions. The rational buyer would offer less than the USD equivalent price, and the rational seller would be happy to sell for less than the USD equivalent price (in order to gain the coins).

In my opinion the growth of trade in goods is slowed by "ordinary" concerns such as the difficulty of buying bitcoins with a credit card, or the early development stage of escrow and arbitration services, rather than by considerations of inflation and deflation.
1525  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: January 23, 2011, 09:49:59 PM
New all time closing high at MtGox.

"Closing price" seems a pretty arbitrary notion for an exchange that's open 24 hours per day. One could equally look for the "highest all time 2.03pm price at MtGox".
1526  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Advertising Clearinghouse Bounty (1400 BTC or 350 USDs of BTC) by Noagendamarket on: January 23, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
Approvable ads represent a lot of development work, and would add some complexity to the interface.

As an intermediate measure, there could be a facility to reject an ad that is already running. Perhaps with two options: "Reject this ad from this website" and "Reject this ad from all my websites".
1527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nenolod, the guy that wants to prove Bitcoin doesn't work. on: January 23, 2011, 09:44:47 PM
So..., any news about Nenolod's plan to "destroy" bitcoin ?

Looking back at ArtForz's analysis of Nenolod's action (earlier in this thread), I was amused to read that when the Slashdot article was published the total generating capacity of the entire Bitcoin network was 200 MHash/sec. That's one-third of what a single 5970 GPU card will do now.
1528  Economy / Economics / Re: The simple way to attack bitcoin on: January 23, 2011, 02:36:46 PM
The government can just buy all available coins...

An infinite number of digital currencies can be created, and the government can't buy them all. I don't think the government will want to create a new business model:

1. Create a digital currency
2. Get some people to start using it
3. The government buys all the coins
4. Profit!
1529  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in RALLY mode on: January 23, 2011, 09:52:33 AM
Guys, why do you buy bitcoins at such high prices?

1. Some people want to trade, and don't have a GPU card, so they have no easy way to get BTC except by buying.

2. Some people are preparing to start up new BTC-based businesses, and need to build up a stock of BTC as their working capital.

3. Some people are speculating.

The rate may still fall down and it can bring great losses. Undecided

Absolutely. No-one should buy BTC unless they are comfortable with the chance of losing everything.
1530  Economy / Economics / Re: Efficient Market Hypothesis on: January 22, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
Here is a biz plan proposal. Accumulate 0.01% of 21 million BTC or 2100 BTC now...
This special offer is limited to the first 10,000 participants.

... store in many places do not touch for 50 years
Heh, you youngsters can talk about your 50-year investments. I'm old enough that I won't be around in 50 years, so I'll need to opt for the 20-year investment option.
1531  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin's immunity to government action on: January 22, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
one jurisdiction that would be ... most ready to accept bitcoins as national currency.

who could this be?
Zimbabwe perhaps, having recently abandoned the Zimbabwe Dollar?
1532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: associated bc addresses when minting coins on: January 22, 2011, 04:27:53 PM
Each bundle of 50 generated coins, together with any associated transaction fees, gets its own address. A different address will always be used for each subsequent bundle of generated coins.

If the generated coins have not been spent, there's no way to know whether two bundles were generated by the same miner or by different miners. When the coins get spent, it's possible that a single transaction will include both bundles, at which time the information appears in the block chain and everyone can deduce that the two bundles were generated by the same miner.

There are ways around this (e.g. exporting a key from one wallet and importing it into another, or using a modified client that never combines generated bundles when sending coins) but I don't think there are any standard tools available.
1533  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Advertising Clearinghouse Bounty (1400 BTC or 350 USDs of BTC) by Noagendamarket on: January 22, 2011, 11:30:03 AM
Like the "no animated ad" option, I could also add a "no xxx ad" option
A more workable option might be "No unapproved ads", so that an ad doesn't go live unless the publisher has explicitly approved it.
1534  Economy / Economics / Re: Did the cryptography revolution begin too late? on: January 21, 2011, 04:11:44 PM
...Senators were not elected by the people until 1913...
In the United Kingdom, members of the Upper House (the "Lords") are still not elected by the people.
1535  Economy / Economics / Re: Did the cryptography revolution begin too late? on: January 21, 2011, 03:05:51 PM
The largest polluters in the United States, by any metric, are government agencies.
Also it's interesting to note that, historically, the more repressive regimes have ruled over more polluted countries. After the Soviet Union fell, it became clear that its industries were more polluting than those in the West. During the partition of Germany, East German pollution was much higher than West German pollution. State power certainly doesn't solve pollution.

Does this example explain why states rarely go away?
Yes it does, but the interesting question is whether the Internet (peer-to-peer communication and transactions) will make a different outcome possible "the next time around".

The state can probably not be defeated, but it can perhaps be made irrelevant.
1536  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Improve my article on: January 21, 2011, 02:08:08 PM
Just one more:

Anyone can use their computer to help processes transactions.

"Processes" should be "process".

I want it to be good enough that people 'steal' it and put it everywhere Smiley

Why not append the sentence "Feel free to steal this article and use it however you like."
1537  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Operation Project Wonderful (225 BTC PAID) on: January 21, 2011, 12:40:33 PM
Aww, well now I feel bad

There's absolutely no reason for you to feel bad. You donated funds for a purpose, and they were not all needed for that purpose, so of course you are entitled to a guilt-free refund.

Also, you donated far more than most people. You donated ten times as much as I did. So you're the one who has the least reason to feel bad.
1538  Other / Off-topic / Re: Money as Debt on: January 21, 2011, 12:28:53 PM
I think it's healthy for people to express their bigotry freely. It's healthy for the individuals concerned, and healthy for society as a whole, to have all this stuff aired.

But...

Quote from: nanaimogold
Wearing your gonads out on your shirtsleeve is bound to put off normal people

Nanaimogold is wearing his hetero-gonads far more prominently than Bruce wore his gay-gonads, therefore nanaimogold should not be surprised that, by his own explanation, so many people were "put off".
1539  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which countries have the cheapest electricity? on: January 21, 2011, 12:20:29 PM
In the UK there are alternatives to the standard residential fee structure. One of those provides very cheap off-peak electricity in exchange for slightly increased peak prices. For most people it's not a good deal, but for someone who wanted to use their computer normally in the day but mine all night it would be perfect.
1540  Economy / Economics / Re: Did the cryptography revolution begin too late? on: January 21, 2011, 12:13:06 PM
I don't believe that democracy (i.e. voting) is a "tyranny by the majority" if you set up standards (like human rights) that apply always

But who sets up those "standards" in a democracy? The majority. So, in a democracy of 51 men and 49 women, if the 51 men vote that it's OK for men to rape women, then there's no "tyranny by the majority"? I don't think so.

"Panarchy" ... only the law of that organization applies to you that you have joined voluntarily

Precisely. Democracy is only "tyranny by the majority" when it's backed by the initiation of violence by a democratic state. But anarchism accommodates voluntary democratic processes whenever they meet the needs of those who are voluntarily participating.
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