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this is not fair at all
first of all you may be cheating and dealing with other players
second this game is ugly and costs you nothing , and the payout is even worst
if you were honest and you truly don't cheat , this game still way unfair and if I want to gamble this way I prefer to throw my money in dice
I mean come on !! what does this game costs you to make the payout only X1.8 when the chance to win is 50%
everyone said that this is a good game should really think twice
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No I dont think it that way. Im just saying if you keep risking small amount and lose , someday that small amount will be a big amount. Lets say you risk $1 every day, in one year that will be $365 lost. Assuming you only lose half because sometimes you might win the game then tou will lose around $180 every year thats a huge amount I say
You said with your assumptions that I lost in half of year, and I won remains. So, I lost $180, but got $185. Wow, I have a good news for you. I got surplus $5 here  Where did I say that you only lose half of the year?  Assuming you lost of half of it is not the same as you lost half only of the year . You should read this carefully . I understand that this might be a language barrier judging from your statistic that you are non native. Lets just let it slip I guess Oh my bad, you must explained that clearly. I don't know where you got the principal for your assumption. Okay, I fix my words. You said I risk $1 everyday, so there is any possibility with my one dollar I could get $100 right? Let me advise you important things, don't make assumption on gambling, that's not an investment  And one thing, don't ever blame a misunderstanding as a native issue, it sounds too arrogant for me. Thats right, gambling is uncertain thing. You can't make assumption because gambling is gambling can't be definite. Someone could have been make their pennies to be billion. And also someone could have been make their billion to be nothing. Have you met someone who got rich from gambling? I think gambling is just waste of money You could use your money for investment IMO Yes I know some members and they are having a good life thanks to gambling of course they don't waste their time playing roulette or blackjack ... etc do I have to repeat my words about +EV games  even binary options consider as a gambling , and there are many people do good at it I just want people to remember that there are +EV games , of course there are ups and downs , but in the long run you can achieve a lot playing +EV games actually there are a lot of people streams on Twitch , you can ask them about their journey with poker and you will see the answers yourself binary options are a simplified form of forex trading, so it is possible to get an edge to profit if you know what youre doing. exactly mate the point is you have to know what you are doing , and that's what leads to +EV long run that's exactly what I was talking about , and the same thing is in poker Gamblers who make a living in gambling stick to +EV games , which leads us again that gambling could be really profitable if gamblers know what they are doing , that's the main point of my post |
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It looks like its is very hard to win the jackpot I already rolled more than 500k still I did not win.
That's why its called by Jackpot As you can see at the Jackpot Denied List, there are many players rolled the jackpot number but unfortunately they did not meet the other requirements. Even there was a player rolled "0" more than 8x in a day but still did not win the jackpot. So just keep rolling and wait for your lucky time..good luck  Yes, the prime number rule is the most difficult thing to win, the probability to roll 0 or 99.99 is 0.02%, which can be seen everyday, it is not difficult, but the prime number rule is very good idea, and hard to fulfill, that's why only 1 guy has won the jackpot so far. GL guys., yes it's hard to achieve but even playing for only the jackpot is very +EV if u consider betting only 1 satoshi every bet ( considering the min win is 0.2 BTC ) it's really nice for everyone , and actually there are many members right now just chasing the jackpot as a main betting strategy |
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No I dont think it that way. Im just saying if you keep risking small amount and lose , someday that small amount will be a big amount. Lets say you risk $1 every day, in one year that will be $365 lost. Assuming you only lose half because sometimes you might win the game then tou will lose around $180 every year thats a huge amount I say
You said with your assumptions that I lost in half of year, and I won remains. So, I lost $180, but got $185. Wow, I have a good news for you. I got surplus $5 here Where did I say that you only lose half of the year? Assuming you lost of half of it is not the same as you lost half only of the year . You should read this carefully . I understand that this might be a language barrier judging from your statistic that you are non native. Lets just let it slip I guess Oh my bad, you must explained that clearly. I don't know where you got the principal for your assumption. Okay, I fix my words. You said I risk $1 everyday, so there is any possibility with my one dollar I could get $100 right? Let me advise you important things, don't make assumption on gambling, that's not an investment And one thing, don't ever blame a misunderstanding as a native issue, it sounds too arrogant for me. Thats right, gambling is uncertain thing. You can't make assumption because gambling is gambling can't be definite. Someone could have been make their pennies to be billion. And also someone could have been make their billion to be nothing. Have you met someone who got rich from gambling? I think gambling is just waste of money You could use your money for investment IMO Yes I know some members and they are having a good life thanks to gambling of course they don't waste their time playing roulette or blackjack ... etc do I have to repeat my words about +EV games even binary options consider as a gambling , and there are many people do good at it I just want people to remember that there are +EV games , of course there are ups and downs , but in the long run you can achieve a lot playing +EV games actually there are a lot of people streams on Twitch , you can ask them about their journey with poker and you will see the answers yourself |
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Hello,
indeed, we require the verification process because we want to provide the best and safest play enviroment for all our players. Now this is done on all cash out methods and it is a one time deal only, once the account is verified you won't have to do it again.
May I ask whats the reason behind having these verifications done for withdrawals ? I don't see any legal laws requesting the casino sites to do this. every licensed and official site needs to verify their players accounts , this is very legal and healthy don't forget that there are many players can play and the site should at least know that they are over 18 if they have players under 18 , the law may sue the site and may close it remember this is not a bitcoin site , this site is famous and full licensed just like PS or FT or any other site like them , you need to be legally qualified to play poker first |
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would you please make it clear for me
so the wallet should have 0.1 on it , and players should fill it up !!
what if a player only sent 0.0001 and other players sent like 0.008 !! this would be totally unfair
and what if I sent the money then it took a long time for the round to start like more that 6 hours , I will lose my money !!
this really seems unclear for me , more details would be much appreciated
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There are no good bitcoin sports books for proffesional betting  actually there are plenty of good bitcoin sport books , this market is great in the bitcoin community and in my opinion it covers what every bettors need unlike poker , there are many bookies super good and professional and you can compare them with the biggest bookies like bet365 take an example DirectBet with the immediate betting and payouts and Betcoin with the most rewarded VIP program I have ever seen and 24/7 support their VIP levels are life time , so once you reach the top level you will stay at it , unlike other sites that they have monthly requirements in Betcoin when you reach the highest level you can enjoy life time 2% BetBack and 20% LossBack which is the heaven for me so in my opinion bitcoin bookies are doing a great job |
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the best thing that may attract the players in the first place is the site design and the script
in my opinion creating a new site using Poker Mavens won't attract new players
try to program a great software and this may crash the market
and I like to see a community part like the one in Betcoin , this involves chat and forums for the players
this would be really interesting
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Martingale basically shouldn't be applied to anything where you had a negative house edge.
On stock trading, since you have a higher probability of actually winning in your favour you should use it there instead.
What? Why do you think you have higher chance of winning than loosing on stock trading? You dont, maybe the chances are close to 50:50 but definitely not higher on the win side besides with each trade you are paying a fee which doesnt help martingale at all and also even in stock trading you wont be able to double forever, even more most exchanges wont allow an infinite number of chances for doubling your trading lot and even if they did it would fail like it does in gambling there are some experts and they have more than 50% chance of guessing right but since most of these activities pays 180% and not 200% that leads us again that martinagle is not fully useful anywhere and risks still involved when people use that |
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just thought to play and bet on 8 ball pool on facebook anyone? betting on 8 ball pool is a great idea , and there is a thread in this forum for that so I suggest you to search for that thread and post their , you may find a lot of interested players for me I won't play billiards for BTC unless a site officially offer that as a betting game so you bet immediately and win immediately , no needs for escrows or trusted players ..etc |
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We looked into this as well the problem is making it provably fair when skill based games are clearly not. It is great for pvp based betting but then all the highly skilled players just destroy the newbies usually turning them away from the game. For us it was one of those "We would love to make this, but in time who will really play when it is dominated by those with god-like skill and/or extreme bots?" Making a game provably fair often takes some or much of the fun factor away from gaming, it is one of those deals where fairness and skill do not intertwine very well or easily.
it's normal thing , in many games skills play part of the game in agar yes maybe it's all about being good at the game without luck involved but there are many players and ready to compete with others even if they are not very good at the game and you can see here a lot of people are interested in this game and they will for sure throw some coins by the way I suck at agar but I find this idea of making it as a gambling platform really great and unique |
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the guys above me answered you with the best sites
for me the best sportsbetting site is Betcoin
and specially if you love cash back and loss back , they have an amazing VIP system which could make you extra money
and they have a Jackpot for their sportsbook also , which makes them perfect for me
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Hello,
I'm the official Americas Cardroom rep. We are the fastest growing poker site in the U.S. We have been in business since 2001 and we have super fast payouts.
on August 2nd we will have a $1 million dollar guaranteed tournament: The Million Dollar Sundays tourney
You can deposit and cash out using Bitcoin.
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you need help or have any questions.
The ACR Team
That sounds exciting, this is your site right? http://www.americascardroom.eu/ It's great you started accepting BTC, whats the minimum cashout in BTC? It looks good, will try and play some hands soon and see how it goes. You should make an official thread about this in Gambling section (if you haven't already). GL hey mate this is their official thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1081344.0they started to accept BTC some months ago when I was playing I guess the minimum withdrawal was 10$ using BTC but as I said before you need to verify your account and they accept all countries Thx for the info, I didn't know that they had a verification process. What exactly does one have to provide to get verified? If it is ID, I don't think many btc gamblers will like to provide that. sadly yes , you need to send a scanned photo of your ID or Passport and you have to send them also a bill with your name and address on it ( the bill should not be from a very long time ) but I think this is how all fiat sites work , it's not a big problem since you are playing in a good site |
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So here is another victim of satoshimine: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1095934.0Because He was not using any strategy. Please do give a try to my method And then Tell here your Story. By the Way Gambling is not recommended @ all So be carefull Thanks I would say that he is not a victim of satoshimines, but he is a victim of his own greediness He made 3.2btc from 0.5, but seems that he was not satisfied enough of that amount and tried to get more and unfortunately busted in the end. yes exactly , this is not a victim at all making 3.2 from 0.5 is super perfect , but he just can't stop there is no working strategy at these games , just go and try your luck and then withdraw quickly the best and the easiest strategy |
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Hello,
I'm the official Americas Cardroom rep. We are the fastest growing poker site in the U.S. We have been in business since 2001 and we have super fast payouts.
on August 2nd we will have a $1 million dollar guaranteed tournament: The Million Dollar Sundays tourney
You can deposit and cash out using Bitcoin.
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you need help or have any questions.
The ACR Team
That sounds exciting, this is your site right? http://www.americascardroom.eu/ It's great you started accepting BTC, whats the minimum cashout in BTC? It looks good, will try and play some hands soon and see how it goes. You should make an official thread about this in Gambling section (if you haven't already). GL hey mate this is their official thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1081344.0they started to accept BTC some months ago when I was playing I guess the minimum withdrawal was 10$ using BTC but as I said before you need to verify your account and they accept all countries |
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my experience is positive with betchain and they are doing good
but what do you want us to recommend exactly ??
I didn't fully understand ( a good poker site where I can play on live tables )
do you mean to play live against the dealer of the casino ?
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what do you mean by traditional sportsbook ??
I know few bookies that accept bitcoin as a payment option but they use USD when you want to bet
the first one is Betonline and the second is AmericasCardRoom , they both have poker , sportsbook and some casino games
but I don't like em at all , their bookies seem very ugly for me , cause they are mainly poker sites
I think you should use only BTC bookies if you don't want to deposit using another option
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Glad to hear that your are finally here
I should post somethings about my experience with you
I had a great time playing ACR but then I had to leave the site
I left the site cause your support wasn't helping at all
I asked the support to verify my account in order to withdraw my money and they said that I have to send them ID with a bill
I said ok , but suddenly your support said that I have to send them the papers in English
I mean how can I send you my ID and a bill in English when English is not used here
so I had my money stuck at your site and I couldn't do anything with them , I had to make a deal with a player that I don't know to send him the money and he pays me in BTC , Luckily this player was trusted and didn't steal my money
I wish that u don't accept deposits without verifying , but I have deposited without even you asking me about my age
but then when a player want to withdraw his winnings all of your rules suddenly show up , and your support doesn't help at all !!
imo the site has btc gamble, deposit, withdraw, should not require an ID verification cos btc is anonymous, if we need ID, it is not the feature of bitcoin, they should learn from others' rules, which is no ID verification needed for btc players, that's the spirit of bitcoin it's not a btc site mate , it's fiat site which accepts bitcoins as a payment option ( BTC is not the only option ) but all the games and tourneys are in USD ID verification is ok , I have no problem with verifying , but my point was that they accept all players around the world but you need to verify only in English luckily they have opened the thread recently and OP promised to solve my problem when I come back to play poker |
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hi guys i lost 3.2 btc today on staoshi mines now i need suggestion how to cool down and save the remaining money.
recovering 3.2 BTC when you are sad about your lost will make you lose more the good option if you want to keep gambling is to stay off for about one week and then back to the game the best option is to start learning how to play +EV games or to quit gambling if you have lost 3.2 BTC I assume that you have more than 30BTC available ( I don't know if you have risked more than 10% of your bankroll in the same -EV game ) , so you can recover a lot with that money if my assuming was right and you started to learn +EV games lol first i dont have 30+ btc , Secondly i made a strategy to recover my loss i dont know if it works or not the strategy is 0.2 deposhit and win 0.5 cashout 0.3 again start with 0.2 . then excuse me mate , you risked a huge amount of your bankroll and if u keep chasing your lose you will lose the rest of your bitcoins you made a big mistake and I think it's super hard to recover your loss unless you have been super lucky there is no strategy even close to recover that amount if you have small amount you should have withdraw at least 2 btc of that amount  |
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hi guys i lost 3.2 btc today on staoshi mines now i need suggestion how to cool down and save the remaining money.
recovering 3.2 BTC when you are sad about your lost will make you lose more the good option if you want to keep gambling is to stay off for about one week and then back to the game the best option is to start learning how to play +EV games or to quit gambling if you have lost 3.2 BTC I assume that you have more than 30BTC available ( I don't know if you have risked more than 10% of your bankroll in the same -EV game ) , so you can recover a lot with that money if my assuming was right and you started to learn +EV games |
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