Eh, you can push whatever notion you want. My consistent cashing in tournaments both in RL and online is proof to myself that what I do works. You can't possibly be getting top 3 over 80% of the time just by using math -- it's improbable that you'd lock in enough good hands (and get enough play) for that to get you to the end. In any case, it's good when some of you base all your decisions on math -- you help me win more, :p.
Math tells you the probability that your hand is going to win at showdown. This is irrelevant if you can push the otherwise winning hands from the pot. If you only play strong hands, you're not going to make it far very often.
excuse me , but I have checked my posts more than one time and I'm sure I didn't say tourneys in my posts would you please tell me how u assumed that I'm talking about tourneys  everyone knows that poker is more complicated , but that doesn't mean that you don't need to understand what you are doing and what is your expected value Tourneys have a very good luck part , most of the times you have to gamble while playing tourneys and that not against the math cause tourneys has payout structure and if you have 10K chips and other player has only 1 chip he may get paid more than you I was talking about cash games and everyone ignoring the math and EV in cash games he is just fooling himself It's the same principle in cash games -- there is no difference. Your posts make it fairly obvious that you don't play poker much or at least don't win (that or you're playing donkey stakes, aka "micro stakes"). Any real table would eat you alive if you seriously believe the crap you're posting here. But maybe that's your goal, to spread false information in the hopes that newbies will believe it and you can take advantage of them. I won't write much cause it's obvious you don't understand anything the OP was asking about the outs and the odds and I have answered him with numbers and facts , then you started to post about reading how people play anyway I won't post any more about this , hopefully I have answered the OP about what he needs I think I should just say what magicmexican said to you , this explains a lot and it's obvious you suffer from playing one table In a game like dice where you roll thousands of times, it makes more sense than in a game of poker where you may only play 50 hands. Your probability in poker isn't nearly as important as your ability to read opponents.
In what particular situation you will play only 50 hands? Having a sample of of tens/hundreds of thousands of hands is standard for any poker professional. Giving too much weight to the "psychology" and "reads" is a standard fallacy that some new players fall into. Its pretty tough to describe what it takes to be a good at poker, but if i would have to say in a few words it would be "have a sick determination to spend thousands of hours at pen&paper 'homework' " |
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Eh, you can push whatever notion you want. My consistent cashing in tournaments both in RL and online is proof to myself that what I do works. You can't possibly be getting top 3 over 80% of the time just by using math -- it's improbable that you'd lock in enough good hands (and get enough play) for that to get you to the end. In any case, it's good when some of you base all your decisions on math -- you help me win more, :p.
Math tells you the probability that your hand is going to win at showdown. This is irrelevant if you can push the otherwise winning hands from the pot. If you only play strong hands, you're not going to make it far very often.
excuse me , but I have checked my posts more than one time and I'm sure I didn't say tourneys in my posts would you please tell me how u assumed that I'm talking about tourneys everyone knows that poker is more complicated , but that doesn't mean that you don't need to understand what you are doing and what is your expected value Tourneys have a big luck part , most of the times you have to gamble while playing tourneys and that not against the math cause tourneys has payout structure and if you have 10K chips and other player has only 1 chip he may get paid more than you I was talking about cash games and everyone ignoring the math and EV in cash games he is just fooling himself
+1
If you let any good opponent read you for playing strong hands pre-flop and 'math' thereon, he will crush your soul. (Who doesn't love to isolate these guys.)
Because while you may play your cards perfectly, he won't be playing cards. He'll be playing souls, and he'll be playing yours like an orchestra ...
that's why there is a term ( changing gears ) and by the way if u have checked my example you would know what I'm talking about I gave a small example about holding A2s , and how to know if you can make money by calling in that situation or not yes math is not all the poker , but without math poker is not +EV game |
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and what if it will be hit after 30th july? the winning will be lower than 1 btc? if yes how much lower?
everyday passes after the fixed day the bounty will be decreased 0.05 per dayand if it comes before the fixed day the bounty will be increases 0.05 per day Where did you find the info that the bounty will be decreased 0.05btc per day if the roll happen after the predicted day? I've posted above your post about it, what do you think? Did I misunderstand the announcement? yep sorry it's my bad I have corrected the comment based by FB page I checked it now and here it is : As with the 300 millionth bounty there is another twist with this one. The Bounty for hitting this Roll on DaDice will be 1BTC IF this roll happens on the 30th of July 2015. Everyday the Roll happens before then A further 0.05BTC will be added to the total. (So if it happenss to be the 28th of July then the rolling bounty will be 1.1BTC and so forth). If the roll happens after our predicted date then the bounty remains at 1BTC. You can increase this bounty by leaps and bounds as with the last one which went at an awesome 0.8BTC! |
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Thank you darling, that was a beautiful explanation :* Now I need to find a bot that can do this for me! I find this idea really interesting, and I love it how math wins AGAIN.
I really hope that helped you a little to understand the game when you are playing like 4 tables I think there is no need for bots or even EV calculator mathematical in poker is not that hard , and people can master it by time but of course it needs working on it
Here's the issue: the probability is only over extended periods of time (100k+ hands minimum, 10m+ preferred). In a game like dice where you roll thousands of times, it makes more sense than in a game of poker where you may only play 50 hands. Your probability in poker isn't nearly as important as your ability to read opponents.
well people who take poker seriously at least play 4 tables at the same time , and people who make a living by playing poker u can find them play easily 8 tables and you would be surprised if you know that there are some people play +24 tables at the same time and most of these players prefer 6max games , now let's say that the hand will take 1 minute that means you can play around 60 hands every hour per table if you play more than 8 tables you would know that without knowing these numbers you can't know what's your hourly rate  you are talking about reading people , and this is not important at all in online poker you can benefit by knowing how your opponents play ( their game style like LAG or TAG ..etc ) , and this job is only for your poker tracker or Holdem Manger poker is a lot more complicated than what you and I said , but I was only trying to show how math works and believe me without knowing the math in poker , dice would be much better |
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Hi guys, You asked and we listened. The wait is over. Literally. Forget about waiting 3 hours for late registration to close. With Gone in 60 Minutes Tournaments, late registration closes in just 60 minutes. That means fewer shots at re-entries and more thrills for diehard players. Check the entire schedule here: http://www.americascardroom.eu/online-poker-promotions/gone-in-60-minutes/that's really great , tourneys used to take serious time due the late registration is that for all of your tourneys !! like deep ones ? |
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Hello, is here a site where you can play for free and win some btc? It would be nice if you can help me, so i dont must to read all the 200 threads.  you can check Dadice , there is a great faucet with maximum 12.5K satoshi and there is no need to wager big amounts of bitcoins to make the faucet big simply create an account and start to chat and set you autobet on 98% chance ( using also the faucet ) you will start leveling up quick from level 1 to level 50 , and for every level the faucet increases 250 satoshi when you have 1,500,000 points ( chat messages or winning bets or mixed of them ) you will enjoy the great faucet |
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I've been playing on Primedice for over a year now and invested some CLAMs on Just-Dice. I also made a small 0.01 BTC deposit to a ponzi game once back when this board was filled with them (which I reinvested and then lost) but other than that, virtually all of my experience with gambling has been with dice games. Of course, dice games are simple and easy to play since they tend to be pretty straightforward but after a while, they can get a bit boring too.
The last time I played card games was several years ago. I also played a couple of games of poker with friends back in high school but I'm not sure if I still remember how to play anymore and even back then, I don't remember winning many games.
Does anyone here have any suggestions?
What other luck-based or skill-based games would be the most suitable for someone whose gambling experience has been mostly restricted to dice?
Moving from dice to skill games is a little bit hard , but you can do it if you work hard it's good that you have a little experience with poker , so at least you know something about it you can do good at it if you spend time on studying the game and focusing while playing I'm sure you would have best results and at least you would have fun more than playing dice , since you are the one who takes action and control in these games but also a little bit of dice and BlackJack would be nice ( Gambler's soul needs to throw some money ) |
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Can you register from other places of europe?
It's possible that some books will, but I know for sure that the terms and conditions for the betfair bonus is restricted to UK and Republic of Ireland only. They require id verification? Because maybe they don't and I can transfer money there and win the bonus to withdraw. yes mate all of these fiat casinos , sportsbooks and poker rooms require you to verify your account and usually the verification is by providing your ID with a bill with your name and address on it sadly I can't play on any of these due to country rejection |
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in what site this happen
cause till now this proves nothing , the stats you have provided could happen anytime
how about if you win 20 in a row , or dealer was busted like 6 in a row , would you post that
sometimes it's all about luck , but if you think really that this is unfair then you should do your research about the site
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Hii all..
It is true that 4 of you said above?? Thats poker have a trick and the trick was counting like math?? Pliss share it more, i want to know all you got..
Because what i know playing poker only need luck to get good/best pair of cards and must have great mentality to bid more from others (have poker face), even if your cards were only High card without any single pair. But Pliss correct me if im wrong to give and share what i have in my mind.. i like to gambling but only on sportsbook and sometimes dice game, but never try poker or any other cards
let me make it easy for u guys , I think all of you know what are the good cards but when we are talking about math , it's not that easy but also not that complicated I will try to give you a small example : let's say we have A2 of spades and the Board is : Qs3s7hKd The pot is $100 and our opponent moves all-in for $50. So we have to call $50 for a chance of winning a total of $150. Assuming that the only way for us to win the hand is by hitting our flush on the last card ( we put our opponents on at least two pairs ), what is the expected value of calling? In other words, is it profitable for us to call? and he we go with the math : The probability of hitting a flush on the river is 4.1 to 1, which is roughly 20% chance or 0.2. Therefore, the odds of not hitting a flush will be 1 - 0.2 = 0.8 Also, notice how we are looking to win $150 and only lose $50 in each outcome. We are only going to lose $50 because that is how much we are paying to try and hit our flush in this single decision. We are not factoring in money that we have put in to the pot in previous betting rounds. We just take the facts from this decision alone so now our EV one hitting the flush is : 150$ x 0.2 = +30$ now if we calculate our EV if we don't hit the flush this would be : -50$ x 0.8 = -40$ total EV = -10$ , that means the average of us when we call in this situation is losing 10$ every hand so this is a situation we have to avoid calling on it ( calling the bet here is worst than playing dice or roulette ) now let's say that our opponent only raise 10$ , so that would make us risk 10$ to win 60$ let's do the math again in this situation if we hit EV woud be : 60$ x 0.2 = +12$ if we don't hit EV would be : -10$ x 0.8 = -8$ EV = +4$ , which means in everytime we call this hand we are expecting to make 4$ and he we are doing the right decision and these decisions which makes some players winners and others are losers I really hope that u understand a little about how math plays its part in poker |
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guys I don't understand too much in law so what now !! Micon agreed that he is guilty !! is that will make the situation better ?? please if someone understands the situation tell me more Its not like that Sy. It is a type of legal extortion in the US. Basically the big Las Vegas Casinos paid politicians to write laws protecting the casinos. And the casinos pay/finance the elections, re-elections, campaigns etc. of judges, sherrifs, politicians, etc. So Micon is basically being f*cked by the big casinos, who are using the so-called legal system to harrass him. It would be very expensive, and likely futile, for Micon to fight the charges, so what he did was 'cut a deal' with the prosecutor. Basically the deal looks like this: Micon agrees to plead 'guilty' for a so-called crime that is relatively minor compared with what the prosecutor is threatening to charge him with. In return, both the state and Micon avoid the very large expense of taking the whole case to trial, and Micon gets a much-reduced sentence. Basically Micon agreed to say 'guilty' in order to stay out of jail, and with his young family, and avoid going broke trying to defend himself. He did what any of us would do in his shoes. Sad but true. US legal system is neither fair nor blind. It is built by the wealthy for the wealthy, to protect what's theirs. Bitcoin is a threat, so bitcoin businesses will be targeted when they can ... ahh thanks mate , now I start to understand a little about the case so it's impossible to run a gambling business in the US , it would be impossible for a BTC site to make a deal with these politicians since the big casinos keep their mouths full of cash I just hope that Micon can enjoy a normal life with his wife and little daughter |
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Poker game always interesting to learned more deeply so that we can play well and Win, Its always be expected for every poker players.
AFAIK, Calculation card opportunities that will come out in playing poker called OUTS, which serves outs calculation to determine the POT ODDS a comparison / ratio between the total number of chips in the pot to the amount of betting that must be called at that time .
so, is there anybody want to share how winning tricks calling Outs and ODDS work?
these are not tricks at all , simply this is math and this what makes poker +EV game without knowing these concepts I'm afraid dice and roulette would be much better for a gambler I can help you with that if you are really interested in mastering poker there are many books around that explain these concepts I would recommend you to read Poker Math That Matters by Owen Gaines , this is really good one and designed for beginners , he shows how math work with coin flip first in order to introduce you to the math of gambling then he start to teach you to calculate outs , odds , implied odds , and then you may learn how to put your opponent in a rang of hands I'm sure you will have a fun read if you are really interested in learning math of poker |
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guys I don't understand too much in law so what now !! Micon agreed that he is guilty !! is that will make the situation better ?? please if someone understands the situation tell me more |
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I will go for 23/7 to roll the 500,000,000
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The Bolivia odd is very high, more of 5 to all betting site
Yap, it will be great if Bolivia win the match You can spend small amount on it, or perhaps you may try my crazy parlay. # Peru vs Bolivia Bolivia wins, odd : 5.1 # Argentina vs Colombia Colombia wins, odd : 4.7 # Brazil vs Paraguay Paraguay win, odd : 5.8 Parlay odds : 139.2 , but I only placed very small amount on this crazy parlay (2mbtc) but if the parlay win, I can earn nice profit P.S : Dont try this to get profit but do it for fun only I have a feeling that this parlay has a good chance to win but maybe you should placed the bet on Argentina vs Colombia as a double chance cause there is a big chance the full time will end with a draw anyway the odds are perfect , and this shot is more perfect |
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anyone knows a site better than cloudbet?
so u mean by saying a site better than cloudbet , a site better but has casino and sportsbetting ? if so I would recommend Betcoin for you , this site has everything and 24/7 support they have the most rewarding VIP system in the market , so you can make daily betback and lossback , and they offer daily bonuses for the players and if you are a sports bettor , they have a great jackpot that you can win by just placing your bets in their bookie their jackpot is between 0.005 and 3 BTC , so you may be lucky just by placing a bet |
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There are no good bitcoin sports books for proffesional betting  take an example DirectBet with the immediate betting and payouts and Betcoin haha These sites are good only for losers. They dont give you win  they don't give me win !! how is that mate , would you please explain more me for me I found these two sites perfect , and have everything that satisfy the sports bettors |
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I guess I won't understand what's the difference between each gambling websites because honestly they look all same , like totally the same both have the same concept just different Graphic user interface and all of them claim that they are Provably fair so not sure what's the differenc between those websites .
When I say they look all the same on concept and stuff I mean Websites likes DaDice & PrimeDice etc ... not casino or poker stuff . could anyone please explain ? :x
well technically all dice sites are same if we are talking about the way it works but what makes each site unique in my opinion is the extra stuffs , for example the faucet , bounties and giveaways for me this is what makes a dice site unique from others but as I said , technically they are all the same |
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this not fair at all
first of all you may be cheating and dealing with other players
second this game is ugly and costs you nothing , and the payout is even worst
if you were honest and you truly don't cheat , this game still way unfair and if I want to gamble this way I prefer to throw my money in dice
I mean come on !! what does this game costs you to make the payout only X1.8 when the chance to win is 50%
everyone said that this is a good game should really think twice
From the way you speak i say 98%, you are going to get hurt soon (so bad) hehe of course no believe me so many people tried to scam me before , but they were actually trying and doing their best not like you and your ( provably fair ) game |
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Hey guys becarefull from any chance game like : https://satoshi*********** https://primed************ https://lucky********** http://DaDi************** http://sawdi*********** http://CrimeD************ xxxxxxxx*********************** ******************** Lose********************** Any satoshi Game that tell you to click and wait for a reponse from the server Dont Play it plz as a games programmer i know what a simple script can do  even if they tell you its provably fair game plz dont believe it even if they also tells you that you can make sure its provably game by your self plz they are just laughing at you, i've seen this by my eyes  (im sorry guys) ,anyways i dont have to explaine much but all they want is your money thats all... I 've said what i wanted to say, i feel happy , even if i know Luck Games owners will be angry at me after this  i understand most of gamblers are poor or they have big dreams for a happy life, but that exactly the type of gamblers they LOVE! Note: You will read some comments below telling you that i might lost money so im angry to give you a hope that you might win in there game becarefull they are very evil and paid people also i had my own gambling site but waiting to make it famous They will tell you below that my scam didn't work so im angry, you see! they are smart they will do anything to keep you with them again : PLZ DONT PLAY LUCK GAMES  With all my respect : TF JLa Note : i dont understand why bitcointalk.org doesn't protect there members by giving warnnings about these games   hehe , so you want us to leave these games I would understand this if you were really advising people to stop gambling using -EV but since you are trying to make a poor game in this forum with 50% chance to win and X1.8 payout I would suggest you to stop writing topics and waste your time life ain't that easy mate |
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