So.. no one thought I indeed did end myself?  

'Cause I mean, I'm still wanting to.

Maybe after losing ~2-3BTC that wasn't mine, and only having managed to repay some of my investors, partially..?

Cuz I've kept busting Since Dec. 2015..?

& that's the only reason the date keeps being pushed back..?

I've had no meaningful income/capital infusion to recover the old losses & repay?


Want to speed up the recovery process?
Then :

[1] Send PM or post here to prompt me to create a [moneypot.com] or [yobit.net] account just for our use.

[2] I'll create it, give you the login/password details, and deposit a small amount as collateral to show good faith.

[3] You'll then do the process of matching my deposited amount by 100% (so, doubling the total.. .005BTC would become .01BTC......)

[4] Then I will add YOUR email to the security settings of the account. And if you wish you'll add the Google Authenticator 2FA of YOUR phone.

This effectively will make the account YOURS. With YOUR very own, segregated 'Stake-That-Exists-Strictly-For-The-Purpose-of-Accelerating-The-Recovery-of-my-Distressed-2015-2016-Investment' inside of it, as the account balance - permanently available to be withdrawn by you at any time you wish - it's yours - but not withdrawable by me, since I don't have 2FA or email access to the account. I'm only meant to login to it and work the capital until you decide to withdraw whenever.

[5] Then, this will be transparently dice'd (or traded - if yobit is chosen, instead of moneypot) multiple times every week, until x1000% (win ~4-40%/day on the days I handle it) or x0% (bust on a bad day) happens - at which point, you'll already probably have withdrawn the whole thing long ago (to cut your losses &/or stay on the safe side, etc..)..

..but in the chance you had not, well, guess what - simple math -> In the above scenario, I put 1/20th of your initial 2015-2016 investment in there, for instance, right? And you matched this amount 100%. This doubled it - making it 1/10th of your due principal. So, now I did turn a 1000% performance over a few months after that, this means x10 so your ^Recovery Stake that was the size of 1/10th of your old principal loan amount has now grown to 10/10 - 100% of your old loan principal! So that means you're repaid. If we continue leaving /some/ of it there to grow, that'll then be for the purpose of recovering the monthly profits that normally you'd been "promised" for this ~past year & a half.

Why do these simple steps^ ..?
To "gamble" on a bargain - the sizable, plausible chance to recover 100%+ of your principal due, in exchange for risking only 1/20th (^in our given specific example, but it can be any amount), in total, of your old loan principal amount size.

Think about it this way
If someone owed you $200
Would it be good R/R for you to risk lending them $10 if they assured you their best attempt at using it to recover the whole thing & pay you back $200?

^

This is the correct chart projection :



3 Bubbles in a row, so close to each other, no big, sustained correction - obvious the entire exercise was a run-up to the long-anticipated Homestead launch.

Now that Homestead's out, & Metropolis not about to launch for several months at least, we get a much larger correction than the previous 2016 bubbles, logically.

This dump is =SO SIQ= ..!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Ty, yes, the obvious logical 'next step' has always been to simply have Venus Ventures on it's own website ; However, I'm not a coder - only a designer, & finance type - not techie ; So, for budget and security reasons, I haven't yet had the opportunity to turn this HYIP into a full-fledged website.



Thanks so much for your backing, it's nice to see those who can align with some more reasonable/logical point-of-view's


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Venus Ventures has now edited down interest payout rates for all investment time periods ; This is an unfortunate (sorry) necessary step in order to continue ensuring the most reliable, exit-scam-proof service possible - Rest assured however that no further adjustments will be necessary for the next 12 months minimum, and that of course all investors already on-board before this rate adjustment are still due payouts accruing as per the old rate, until cashout in full.

We can generate anywhere from ~2% to 11% daily from gambling, and 0.4% up to 4-6% daily from trading (certain exceptional days, such as today in fact - very rare, ~safe opportunities in markets). This ensures on average, We generate more BTC than the 3.3% owed to investors. This is the commission wager Venus Ventures' model makes, the 'cut' we get - To make more than what is returned to investors, BUT while still ensuring safe risk management so we avoid big losses & be forced to pay you out of our own pocket/profits - The priority is on safeguarding ours & our investors' joint bankroll ; NOT on "more profit at all cost" <- The latter, is precisely why most gamblers lose. That is our edge.

That is a good thing, especially if it stops more people from getting exit-scam'd the next time 'HourlyBTC' or similar HYIP sites shut down with your coins.

Always make sure to invest only once you can say "I have a decent chance of multiplying my BTC from this into a much larger amount, if it works ; Compared to the limited amount - which was small enough I could afford risking it without worry - that I may lose, if it doesn't turn out legitimate."




Sure -> Here, Here, and Here.

^

 The time has come to say farewell to this dimension.

True! Thank you for bringing this detail to my attention.

Fixed^

This thread is now closed.

Thanks Vod!


* = I run a business & already have 24 investor lenders onboard who receive high interest rates because they have lent Venus Ventures at no collateral so my reputation is in good standing outside of this mismoderated forum.

* Seems inevitable someone will try bringing this up so I'm afraid I'll have to pre-empt this allegation based on popular thought & ignorance right off the bat :

Proof that Venus Ventures is not a ponzi scam :

[1] Not paying investors' returns using other investors' money, like a pyramid ;
[2] Not seeking more investors aggressively ;
[3] Not withdrawing/spending ANY of investors' money for the operator's own personal expenses

Oh.. hadn't looked into those dates closely.. true, this should've been buried ;/

This post by Tsaroz is what necro'd the thread most recently ;o

Everything went well. Probably did not need to bother w/ escrow..or this thread, lol, in the end..

RaaaJLucky has been an excellent lender, smooth transaction, very fair terms, A+

Speaking of which, FullyPak was an above-average escrow, very responsive, fast, professional, free, A++

Hi,

Username : Venusianism
Loan Amount : 0.0666* BTC
Repayment Amount : Base Value +30% Interest
Duration : 02.12.15 - 12.12.15 [10 Days]
Collateral : Account**
Escrow : [None] or [FullyPak]
Bitcoin Address : 1Eqat2tyBzhkVA9CMi9m12JnDNB9YApV6

 Thank you for your business consideration


* = Amount would be more modest/less risk if not for 8-Ball's apparent 0.06 minimum size requirement.

** = I run a business & already have 24 investor-lenders onboard who receive higher interest rates than^ because they have lent Venus Ventures at no collateral so my reputation is at stake for good, timely repayment of this loan.

** Seems inevitable someone will try bringing this up so I'm afraid I'll have to pre-empt this allegation based on popular thought & ignorance right off the bat :

Proof that Venus Ventures is not a ponzi scam :
[1] Not paying investors' returns using other investors' money, like a pyramid ;
[2] Not seeking more investors aggressively ;
[3] Not withdrawing/spending ANY of investors' money for the operator's own personal expenses

=Posting in Epic Thread=

Poor gambling-degen trisomic inbred HF skid dudebro's simply never comprehend DICE GAMBLING DOES NOT PAY &/OR BECOME +EV SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU BOT/SCRIPT

This phool's almost forgiven for the simple hilarity this thread ended up causing o.O

Partner up w/ an IT-security/network infrastructure/programming type, or are you worried about trusting them w/ 'keys to the site'..?

Escrow costs extra BTC & makes transaction less efficient & smooth ; However I will follow your lead guys & tyvm for responding w/ the valuable information

Hello, I'd just like to seek some feedback on this user - Anyone have traded with, have lent to & been repaid from, or been donated from, this bitcoiner before..?

Tyvm for your help, I am in the middle of a business deal with him.

It concerns a loan, w/ 2 forum accounts as collateral, w/ a total ~210 activity, for ~20% weekly interest. If these terms so far seem intriguing to you, please feel free to PM me to discuss them, I am always open.

Very nice, I'll keep you in mind for future reference.


Ty @ QS for responding w/o even me PM'ing you ;p

I had indeed included a ~30.5%+ margin premium in my counterparty's benefit.. ; But in any case I ended up just using one of my regular exchanger friends lol..they usually didn't want to bother w/ amounts lower than $10 :/

 [1] Send your $2.40 of BTC (@ BitStamp rate, or whichever major exchange's BTCUSD rate you prefer)
 [2] Receive my $3.45 PP via 'Send to Friends/Family' can't c-back, never have, don't believe in scamming..

 -or-

 [1] Send your $2.40 of BTC to User:QuickSeller(? Or is amount too small for him to want to escrow? Must ask - Should not need escrow, see below
 [2] Receive my $3.45 PP
 [3] QS/Other high-reputation user sends me the BTC

References : Users RHavar, BetterBets.io, EchoBlare, Mist/Mystical, Dexon can all vouch - Scamming is stupid, make more BTC working legit ; & I run a business - Venus Ventures - I care about my rep..

I'm stuck w/ tiny PP balance under $5 - Almost everyone requires $10-25+ to do any exchanging, will you be the exceptional person to accept smaller amount, at huge markup for you..? - PP is useless, cannot trade/gamble w/ it, BTC is useful, will not be able to get it to ~$10-13 until in 6-7days from now, pls help!!

So.. many weeks have gone by since Venus Ventures' last, most terribly irresponsible & stupid encounter w/ Lady Luck's giant evil dildo of Martinfail demolition..

..& I've managed to put together a puny little bankroll to begin a slow recovery, ponderous, but promising if diligently pursued, using mostly x3, x4, ~x4.68, x5 & x5.5 payouts, in semi-martingale betting (restricted, avoided as much as possible, & stop-loss-capped at ~8-11x of the base bet amount - which is a variable from ~0.085% to 0.5% of available MP bankroll).

When seeing lots of very low or very high % rolls, I'll at times begin chasing a 'copy' of said result but w/ a generous x1.5 to x2.0 'margin' for it to be loosely 'copied' into, at the opposite, or at the very same end of the rolls spectrum (e.g., I'll see a 2.28 roll, this would certainly mean, according to this theory, that another 97.5-99.99, or 0.01-2.50, would be coming soon - However, by modifying this 'expectation' w/ a x1.5 or x2.0 'margin', we end up & begin rolling for ~x20 to ~x27 payouts, yielding win odds of >95-100% / >96.07-100%, or <0.0-5.0% / 0.0-3.93%) ; Which tends to depend on exactly how the pseudo-random algorithm recently distributed rolls in recent games results, with a given seed #.

Occasionally, when seeing large (> 4-5) streaks of 0-49% or 51-100% rolls, I'll try a few x2 bets, keeping a loose hand on the 'Martingale +100% bet size on loss' rule, & a very tight resolve on the 'stop-loss & give up' rule as soon as things get too streaky, because it will happen.

You never know just how far a streak can go, and the best way to lose all is to tell yourself "Ok this is it, there is no way this could possibly do another roll that low / that high again, right..!??!?!"  There are fundamental math reason why this so often leads to doom - [1] Statistically, at some point, there has to be some giant ridiculous streak one way or another, as that is how pseudo-random distribution will arrange itself. You can actually expect it coming (but just not be able to realistically bet on it). [2] To win on average, you must ensure a reward greater than your risk taken. When martingale'ing to the ends of the earth, on huge streaks, you begin to take risks that, in relation to your bankroll/net worth at least, are far higher than the potential reward. THAT, is why, before everything else, infinite or large-streak martingale'ing is a losing proposition, of the highest order.

What most of my sessions look like :



The #1 key, as is always the case with every single 'wealth growth' endeavor, whether investing, trading, or gambling, is really to accept that moderate losses cannot be put off forever - they WILL come, and to be able to accept & move on forward, w/ slow, limited-risk, normal size recovery when they do happen - NOT try to fight, delay, or chase losses as that is like saying "I deserve to defeat the mathematical forces of the Universe and therefore will benefit from parabolic bankroll growth infinitely, or at least for an extremely long time, without a single significant pullback" which, invariably, of course will get you rectally reconfigured in ways you never even imagined were possible ;/


I must use this opportunity to congratulate Bjorn once again for maintaining, even in the face of frustratingly dwindling volume, all the promotions, giveaways & cashback rewards BBets is famous for, & will offer the following rationale as to why players stick to ancient, established places like PRC, JD & PD vs. new, more advantageous gambling spots like BB :

Human psychology is risk-averse, and lazy. Thus, people tend to stick to what they're familiar with ; that's how we have the 'breaking out of comfort zones' expression. Old sites make sure to even reinforce this behavior, by implementing loyalty/veteran features such as Account Levels for PD, etc. Also, the very same 'stuck-to-what-they've-always-known' bias applies to what internet users are even aware/informed about - Most of them simply don't even know about MP, let alone BetterBets. I've never once seen an ad for either on faucet banners & SolveMedia captcha's, which understandably, don't come too cheap.