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October 16, 2023, 12:13:28 PM
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Normally football is a way of making money which I believe each club will find a way of getting profit from it, club that are at the top like Bayern Munich that always win their Bundesliga title, they can be blamed because they no the path, maybe they notice selling of players is most than trophy.
And sometimes it is also difficult for us to understand how other people do business in this case because selling players is also part of business apart from strengthening a team. And every team obviously always has their own way of trying to achieve what they want, especially in terms of trophies and after that is in buying players who they think can be good enough to strengthen the team's strength. So this must be seen more broadly because a team must have its own targets.

Every club has its own way of managing its team, they know what to do especially in business to get profits and one of them as usual they utilize from player sales. We can see how Dortmund now, they are always consistent in their business, have the ability to form players who were originally ordinary to be extraordinary then they will sell them at fantastic prices even to their own rivals.

But in my opinion in general they also cannot if they continue to focus on the benefits of selling players, because obviously if it is done very often then maybe they will find it difficult to balance the team's performance in each competition because they are busy with taking care of the entry and exit of players, and also of course adaptation which is a serious problem when they are struggling to win trophies or other victories.

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October 16, 2023, 12:22:15 PM
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Sven Ulreich performance not really quit well with Bayern Munich in this season, have played 9 matches all competition between Bundesliga and UEFA Champion League have conceded 10 goals with 6 goals in domestic league and 4 goals in Champion League. Seems very poor performance and Bayern Munich not try to sign new goals keeper to be competitor for Sven Ulreich. Have rumor to sign David De Gea but Bayern Munich not reach agreement deal actually De Gea have impressive performance with Manchester United and become free agent make Munich doesn't have spent money for transfer fees. Looking on Sven Ulreich performance, its not late for Bayern Munich sign new goal keeper waiting with Manuel Neuer from injury, still have many matches left and David De Gea as free agent can sign anytime without waiting with transfer window opening and already playing for Bayern Munich.

It could be, if previous communication had been established between Bayern and De Gea. However, it seems that an agreement has not been reached. either because of salary, or he is just an option before Neuer returns to the field with Munich. Maybe that's why De Gea is not interested if Bayern offers him a contract. As an established goalkeeper and a big name, I don't think De Gea will be willing to just be a temporary goalkeeper. We can refer to Yann Sommer, even though I think this Swiss goalkeeper's work with Bayern is not that bad. However, he chose to leave, because previously there were rumors that Neuer would return as the main goalkeeper in the 2023/2024 season.

Well, now we are talking from Sven Ulreich's side. As you said, the goalkeeper has conceded 10 goals during Bayern's matches both in the Bundesliga and in the Champions League. However, if we remember the initial match in the German Super Cup, Sven Ulreich also conceded 3 goals, so a total of 13 conceded. I don't want to say that this goalkeeper always performs badly, but in big matches or when he meets a strong enough team, he always concedes. which means, Tuchel has other work to do to find a way to cover his weaknesses in the last line of defense of his team's squad.
For now, there are not many options other than Ulreich to improve his performance. plus, Thucel strengthened his squad's defense line players. if there is no development that leads to good progress.This means that Bayern must find an ideal goalkeeper next January and at the same time add several defenders.Thus, the Bayern Munich squad will be much stronger and very ready to face even tough teams.

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October 16, 2023, 12:24:46 PM
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Dortmund management is keen to make money by selling players. They are not interested in building a strong squad. We see almost every season that they have quite a few talented players in their squad. And the Dortmund management made a lot of money selling them within 2/1 year. This team has the potential to dominate the Bundesliga. But because of such business attitude they are not able to dominate the Bundesliga. If Bellingham and Haaland were in Dortmund's squad now, they would be able to break the defense of any strong team. However, this is not to be. The Dortmund management will not budge from their policy. They will continue their business. They are not interested in building a strong squad or winning titles.
I truly agree with you if Bellingham and Haaland are still with the Dortmund team, Dortmund could dominate the Bundesliga but many are saying that Dortmund is cooperating with Bayern Munich I really think that Dortmund has been just like this from the start they have surely intent to sell off their players for a bigger profit, their intention was not really the Bundesliga champions but to profit for sure, and yeah they tend to think about business nothing more nothing less,

If Dortmund's goal was to win the Bundesliga, I think they could have done it. A number of talented players have emerged from the Dortmund club in the last few seasons. And Dortmund sold these players at a high price. Had they not sold these players they could have dominated the Bundesliga. Bayern Munich challenge for the Bundesliga title. The team would have been able to play well even in the Champions League. However, the Dortmund management probably has no desire to win the title. Like the previous seasons, Bayern Munich is the most likely to win the Bundesliga this season.
I completely understand your perspective. If I were a Dortmund supporter, I would find it annoying that the team constantly lets go of elite players. They seem to be prepared to sell them for a good price each time they discover a gem. Consider Bellingham as an example. The boy was doing well at Dortmund, and then - whoa. To Real Madrid we go. It seems like Dortmund has turned into this "stepping stone" team, which depresses me much. They give up their resources any time they could pose a threat to Bayern. Although I understand that football is a business as well, you would expect that eventually their winnings will reflect their caliber of play

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October 16, 2023, 12:33:32 PM
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And sometimes it is also difficult for us to understand how other people do business in this case because selling players is also part of business apart from strengthening a team. And every team obviously always has their own way of trying to achieve what they want, especially in terms of trophies and after that is in buying players who they think can be good enough to strengthen the team's strength. So this must be seen more broadly because a team must have its own targets.
There is nothing wrong with doing business in the football industry and that is what they do to make a profit. If the business is run like the one run by the owner of Dortmund, they will never achieve the club's achievements. The reason is that they only focus on selling players and never try to buy quality players at high prices. A trophy is a big hope for any club, but if the club does not have a supporting force of quality players then it will be difficult for them to achieve it.

Just look at the example of Dortmund last season where they almost won the Bundesliga, but because they were unable to play well to get full points, Bayern Munich took the championship again. Even though Dortmund only needed to win in the last match and the match also took place at home.



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October 16, 2023, 01:11:44 PM
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The question that arises when they do that is how long will they do it? The risk will always be there, and even though they alwasy make a profit every season from the sales they make, the question is whether they will always be in a state where they will always be able to benefit from the star players they create? I have no doubt that they are the club with the most genius in spotting young talent. But risks must also be taken, because they also need titles as a club. They have the ability to do that, it's just a matter of how they intend to do it.
Maybe they're comfortable in gaining financially from their player sales than winning trophies, cause if the trophies were important to them, then I don't see why they'll decide to sell players that are capable of winning titles for them, if you noticed their performance last season when they had Jude Bellingham in the team is not the same this season, they almost won the Bundesliga when he was present in the team, and he's now performing well at Madrid, I believe if he was still with them they would had been doing better.

 What I feel is that it's become a tradition for them and it may continue for a long time, they'll still try as much as possible to qualify for the Champions League  and sell some youngsters that are currently in the team, maybe Karim Adeyemi might be the next Youngster to be sold by Dortmund,  but where it could start affecting them is when they fail to find a better replacement for the players they're selling.
In situations like this, comfort will actually backfire on them, yes as a club they should be able to get out of the comfort zone they occupy. I have repeatedly said I personally have no problem if they do business, because in football business can no longer be separated, many clubs are financially constrained because they are not good at business.
They have shown their business skills, and I think we all agree on that. But what we haven't seen from them now is how they start for something bigger, in this case achievement.



As long as the club is still comfortable with what it does each season and as long as many fans are quite happy with their current condition even though there are also many who demand that they do more then I think things like this will continue.
The conditions that Dortmund are doing are not just from one or two seasons but this kind of strategy has started when they were in the previous decade where Lewandowski was the opening for them to sell star players even to their own rival clubs.

So things like this will be difficult to change even if in the end there are several opportunities they want to take risks but when it is not in line with what is expected and actually makes them lose I think they will still return to their comfort zone by selling their star players for the club's financial benefits.
One thing I really like about them is that their supporters are very loyal to the club, even when Borussia Dortmund hasn't been able to give them what they expected, they are still loyal. I mean, usually when supporters demand something, they will protest to demand it, but I haven't seen that from their supporters.
Actually, they just need to raise their level just one notch from what they are showing now, then they will be able to achieve something that a club wants.

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October 16, 2023, 01:25:15 PM
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There is nothing wrong with doing business in the football industry and that is what they do to make a profit. If the business is run like the one run by the owner of Dortmund, they will never achieve the club's achievements. The reason is that they only focus on selling players and never try to buy quality players at high prices. A trophy is a big hope for any club, but if the club does not have a supporting force of quality players then it will be difficult for them to achieve it.

Obviously, These Football clubs are not just there for entertainment sake but are also for their business dealings and I do believe this is why Dortmund sold this incredible player at some point,  fast forward back to when Arsene Wenger was in Arsenal as the head coach, this was a kind of business Arsenal football club was into, grooming of players and selling them when they are at their best to raise money for the club.



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October 16, 2023, 01:39:55 PM
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And as long as he is not under contract, he will be able to join any team. He wants even though the transfer market is off. At least that's what I know. Do let me know if I am wrong. But I think he is definitely going to be more reliable compared to Sven and the other kid.

De Gea is too old to be brought in by Munich. But when compared to Sven I think De Gea is much better. But in the Bundesliga, Munich only conceded 6 goals. Although I think this is because Munich does have a good defense. Bringing in De Gea will certainly use up their funds, while at the moment even though Sven is not as good as De Gea, Munich has a defender who can anticipate this.
David de Gea is a 32-year-old Spanish goalkeeper who was released by Manchester United this season and is currently out of contract. Manchester United were not satisfied with his performance and that's why the club released him but it is a question of how much interest Bayern Munich will show in taking him to the team where Manchester United released him. Mayan Munich will certainly not sign a player with a very limited contract period so they expect a good quality goalkeeper in which case David de Gea may not meet their expectations. Bayern Munich should sign a goalkeeper who has excellent goalkeeping skills as well as a long-term plan. David de Gea may never be in Bayern Munich's long-term plans.

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October 16, 2023, 01:52:50 PM
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Obviously, These Football clubs are not just there for entertainment sake but are also for their business dealings and I do believe this is why Dortmund sold this incredible player at some point,  fast forward back to when Arsene Wenger was in Arsenal as the head coach, this was a kind of business Arsenal football club was into, grooming of players and selling them when they are at their best to raise money for the club.

Nowadays football is an industry, so a club would be better if it had a good business and was able to generate a large source of income. Dortmund have done that, so a lot of good players have left. This also resulted in disappointed fans. Because indeed the orientation of the club looks different. They don't have many trophies but their finances are healthy. Of course this will make the club not have much burden to pay players, although they must be willing to rarely have trophies.

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October 16, 2023, 01:58:28 PM
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There is nothing wrong with doing business in the football industry and that is what they do to make a profit. If the business is run like the one run by the owner of Dortmund, they will never achieve the club's achievements. The reason is that they only focus on selling players and never try to buy quality players at high prices. A trophy is a big hope for any club, but if the club does not have a supporting force of quality players then it will be difficult for them to achieve it.

Obviously, These Football clubs are not just there for entertainment sake but are also for their business dealings and I do believe this is why Dortmund sold this incredible player at some point,  fast forward back to when Arsene Wenger was in Arsenal as the head coach, this was a kind of business Arsenal football club was into, grooming of players and selling them when they are at their best to raise money for the club.


Are you aware, even though Dortmund always sells talented players, but in reality Dortmund is still capable and/or successful in becoming a team that can compete well in the title race every season. In fact, last season Dortmund almost won the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund again and again had bad luck in the last match of last season. So yes, even though Dortmund prioritizes business and profits, but the reality is that Dortmund still has very good management to remain a title-challenging team every season and that is of course great I guess.

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October 16, 2023, 02:24:18 PM
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Dortmund management focuses on certain players each season. And try hard to make these players experienced. Dortmund have a number of talented players in their squad. However, their overall squad performance is not very good. And when a Dortmund midfielder or striker joins a big club like City, Munich or Madrid, their performance becomes even stronger. The main reason for this is the strong performance of teams like Madrid and City. Their midfield and attack are also strong. This is why they get a lot of support from other team players. So naturally their performance becomes more dynamic. We see Haaland and Bellingham scoring a lot of goals.
Mainly it's because Dortmund management is more business minded than getting or winning trophies,Haland was in Dortmund and was given the attention and much needed training so as to keep his value up enough for them to make good profit from his sales which was what they achieved, so these players tend to thrive better at othe teams because at Dortmund they were training.
Mentioned it in ones of my post few days back that Dortmund has now looked like a breeding ground for good brilliant and young talent, a we have seen this play out in most of the season. Where they train players and sell them off , if some of this players were to be in Dortmund till date I think they would be stronger than Leverkusen or Munich
Currently they may be focused on some players who will be potential means to increase their pockets by the end of the season that's why how well this players shine in Dortmund isn't much of a problem to them but they make sure the players get so good enough to be marketable regardless they will still perform well by mid season and be sure to finish amongst the top five teams.
No matter how business minded the Borussia Dortmund management wants to be, they should know that Borussia Dortmund should've been one of the strongest clubs in not just in Germany but in Europe at large.
I think the club should stop the policy of always selling their best players to another club but rather they should build a strong team that'll be major contenders for German and European competition in coming years from now. We must break the deadlock

Dortmund management is keen to make money by selling players. They are not interested in building a strong squad. We see almost every season that they have quite a few talented players in their squad. And the Dortmund management made a lot of money selling them within 2/1 year. This team has the potential to dominate the Bundesliga. But because of such business attitude they are not able to dominate the Bundesliga. If Bellingham and Haaland were in Dortmund's squad now, they would be able to break the defense of any strong team. However, this is not to be. The Dortmund management will not budge from their policy. They will continue their business. They are not interested in building a strong squad or winning titles.


Dortmund has a good team and they are not weak at all. Even after selling many young and talented players in the last years, still, Dortmund was always racing in the top side of the La Liga with Bayern Munich while they don't spend too much money like Bayern Munich.
Also, Dortmund is getting what they need, they are racing in one of the best leagues with one of the best teams while they are also making a good amount of money which is what they want,


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Dortmund management focuses on certain players each season. And try hard to make these players experienced. Dortmund have a number of talented players in their squad. However, their overall squad performance is not very good. And when a Dortmund midfielder or striker joins a big club like City, Munich or Madrid, their performance becomes even stronger. The main reason for this is the strong performance of teams like Madrid and City. Their midfield and attack are also strong. This is why they get a lot of support from other team players. So naturally their performance becomes more dynamic. We see Haaland and Bellingham scoring a lot of goals.
Mainly it's because Dortmund management is more business minded than getting or winning trophies,Haland was in Dortmund and was given the attention and much needed training so as to keep his value up enough for them to make good profit from his sales which was what they achieved, so these players tend to thrive better at othe teams because at Dortmund they were training.
Mentioned it in ones of my post few days back that Dortmund has now looked like a breeding ground for good brilliant and young talent, a we have seen this play out in most of the season. Where they train players and sell them off , if some of this players were to be in Dortmund till date I think they would be stronger than Leverkusen or Munich
Currently they may be focused on some players who will be potential means to increase their pockets by the end of the season that's why how well this players shine in Dortmund isn't much of a problem to them but they make sure the players get so good enough to be marketable regardless they will still perform well by mid season and be sure to finish amongst the top five teams.
No matter how business minded the Borussia Dortmund management wants to be, they should know that Borussia Dortmund should've been one of the strongest clubs in not just in Germany but in Europe at large.
I think the club should stop the policy of always selling their best players to another club but rather they should build a strong team that'll be major contenders for German and European competition in coming years from now. We must break the deadlock

Dortmund management is keen to make money by selling players. They are not interested in building a strong squad. We see almost every season that they have quite a few talented players in their squad. And the Dortmund management made a lot of money selling them within 2/1 year. This team has the potential to dominate the Bundesliga. But because of such business attitude they are not able to dominate the Bundesliga. If Bellingham and Haaland were in Dortmund's squad now, they would be able to break the defense of any strong team. However, this is not to be. The Dortmund management will not budge from their policy. They will continue their business. They are not interested in building a strong squad or winning titles.


Dortmund has a good team and they are not weak at all. Even after selling many young and talented players in the last years, still, Dortmund was always racing in the top side of the La Liga with Bayern Munich while they don't spend too much money like Bayern Munich.
Also, Dortmund is getting what they need, they are racing in one of the best leagues with one of the best teams while they are also making a good amount of money which is what they want,


The truth is that despite the fact that they're always selling their best players at the end of every season, Borussia Dortmund has a way of still performing well in the German Bundesliga. How they've managed to always finish the season in the top four position despite the selling of their best players remains a surprise to me and so many other football faithfuls.
However, I think they should've been more competitive in not just the German Bundesliga but also in Europe have they kept some of the big players that's left the club. The club's management is for a fact making good profits with their transfer policies but football is more measured by the number of trophies a club wins than the amount they make in profits.

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October 16, 2023, 02:37:35 PM
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As long as the club is still comfortable with what it does each season and as long as many fans are quite happy with their current condition even though there are also many who demand that they do more then I think things like this will continue.
The conditions that Dortmund are doing are not just from one or two seasons but this kind of strategy has started when they were in the previous decade where Lewandowski was the opening for them to sell star players even to their own rival clubs.

So things like this will be difficult to change even if in the end there are several opportunities they want to take risks but when it is not in line with what is expected and actually makes them lose I think they will still return to their comfort zone by selling their star players for the club's financial benefits.
One thing I really like about them is that their supporters are very loyal to the club, even when Borussia Dortmund hasn't been able to give them what they expected, they are still loyal. I mean, usually when supporters demand something, they will protest to demand it, but I haven't seen that from their supporters.
Actually, they just need to raise their level just one notch from what they are showing now, then they will be able to achieve something that a club wants.
When talking about fan loyalty, it is true that Dortmund fans are one of the most loyal fans because even though they do want trophies as a form of their strength but they don't demand too much from club management to force themselves because they just like to accept what happens even for 1 decade they are always under Bayern.
An example of their loyalty was also seen at the end of last season where Signal Iduna Prak was filled with almost all fans of Dortmund and even it came out of the stadium in their last match against Mainz because they were preparing for the euphoria of the champions but failed in the last match instead of them getting angry and expressing frustration but instead they encouraged players who were slumping it was one of the craziest loyalties for a fan even though they must be difficult to accept the harsh reality where they must be willing to lose the trophy in the last match but they are still able to keep and protect players from getting too down because of their failure.    

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October 16, 2023, 02:59:17 PM
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Just look at the example of Dortmund last season where they almost won the Bundesliga, but because they were unable to play well to get full points, Bayern Munich took the championship again. Even though Dortmund only needed to win in the last match and the match also took place at home.
High self-confidence is needed and a winning mentality, it seems that Dortmund in that match were not really confident and did not have a winning mentality so they failed to win the match they should have won and won the Bundesliga last season. Obviously this made many of their fans disappointed and came to watch at that time. Playing at home showed disappointment in the players because they failed to become champions.

But I think they will learn from previous failures even though this season doesn't look better than last season because there is another club that will be their biggest challenge apart from Munich, namely Leverkusen, where currently they are playing very consistently at the start of this season, they may also have a chance to win. league this season.

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October 16, 2023, 03:01:46 PM
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Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention
  • Lewandoski 
  • Aubameyang
  • Sancho
  • Haaland 
  • Bellingham
I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.
Why did you include Sancho? For this player, it seems like the decision to sell him was the right thing, as proven at Manchester United, he wasn't that impressive and is now having problems with the team's coach.
Meanwhile, for the other names, it is quite agreeable that if Dortmund does not sell this player, perhaps Dortmund will be able to break Bayern Munich's dominance, but again it is just maybe, so it is not a certainty that by keeping this player Dortmund will turn out to be very strong, but a strong team is of course because they have good players, but retaining good players costs money so Dortmund doesn't seem to have that ability so they have to let these players go

Jadon Sancho wasn't impressive to you when he was playing for Dortmund? You can just check his statistics back then and rethink about what you said mate.  Grin

Sancho was doing an amazing work at Dortmund. He was productive in every way like goals and assists both. Dortmund had a chance to make a huge profit in his sale and they just continued to apply their usual policy. They have sold so many players like this. Yeah maybe Sancho couldn't adapt to Manchester United but he isn't actually a bad player at the end of the day.
I really agree with you because Sancho had great talent when he was at Dortmund and he also has good history there and failure at Manchester United not mean he has bad talent but just failed to unite his thoughts with his coach and became problem that made everything crumble.
In fact, if everything is fine, I am sure Sancho will make good contribution there because he is still very young and aggressive to get title in any league so there is a possibility that he will continue to help his club to continue to score and get wins, but however it is his and our policy back to main problem, Dortmund has always been known as club that produces talented player with good quality and Sancho is one of the players who has good quality talent.

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October 16, 2023, 03:21:41 PM
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Dortmund has a good team and they are not weak at all. Even after selling many young and talented players in the last years, still, Dortmund was always racing in the top side of the La Liga with Bayern Munich while they don't spend too much money like Bayern Munich.
Also, Dortmund is getting what they need, they are racing in one of the best leagues with one of the best teams while they are also making a good amount of money which is what they want,
For sure they want and wanted to make some money in the last years but they also wanted to get the german title.
And at some stage its anymore possible to hold very good young players when they will get some huge more money at other clubs.
If Dortmund would be tried to hold all this players they would be run out of money and maybe dosnt stay as good as they are right now financially.

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October 16, 2023, 03:40:48 PM
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I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.
Dortmund are comfortable with their current condition where their profits are only centered on the sale of players they do so I think by looking at the condition of their financial benefits then it has become a comfort zone for Dortmund and they don't want to move from it.
Currently as long as they (the fans and management) are not too demanding with achievements and trophies I think Dortmund will continue like that and there will be no change.

But indeed in this case in terms of business of course they will be more able to expect this as a business field for their financial benefits.
Yes, In general the income they get is none other than the results of selling players in the transfer window by selling star player. This season dortmund will not give up on winning the trophy in the bundesliga even though they need extra energy to compete with bayern munich but I am sure they will be able to put up a lot of resistance even though in the end they will give up again.

Yes, What you say is quite true, Dortmund is always unable to compete with Bayern munich in the bundesliga. But over the past few season, Only Dortmund has been able to provide strong competition for Bayern munich and other teams are actually not that strong when compared to dortmund.

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October 16, 2023, 03:48:18 PM
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One thing I really like about them is that their supporters are very loyal to the club, even when Borussia Dortmund hasn't been able to give them what they expected, they are still loyal. I mean, usually when supporters demand something, they will protest to demand it, but I haven't seen that from their supporters.
Actually, they just need to raise their level just one notch from what they are showing now, then they will be able to achieve something that a club wants.
When talking about fan loyalty, it is true that Dortmund fans are one of the most loyal fans because even though they do want trophies as a form of their strength but they don't demand too much from club management to force themselves because they just like to accept what happens even for 1 decade they are always under Bayern.
An example of their loyalty was also seen at the end of last season where Signal Iduna Prak was filled with almost all fans of Dortmund and even it came out of the stadium in their last match against Mainz because they were preparing for the euphoria of the champions but failed in the last match instead of them getting angry and expressing frustration but instead they encouraged players who were slumping it was one of the craziest loyalties for a fan even though they must be difficult to accept the harsh reality where they must be willing to lose the trophy in the last match but they are still able to keep and protect players from getting too down because of their failure.    
Yes, we must appreciate it because it is very much needed in football, especially for a club. But Borussia Dortmund should also not be selfish in this case, they should be able to give something to their very loyal supporters. I emphasize this to their management, because I'm sure the coach also wants the same thing, but management policy requires the coach to follow their will to prioritize business over achievement.
With the loyalty that their supporters give, I hope it can change the view of their management, that they also have to give something proud to their supporters, and in football something proud is one of them by achieving.

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October 16, 2023, 03:56:00 PM
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Dortmund has a good team and they are not weak at all. Even after selling many young and talented players in the last years, still, Dortmund was always racing in the top side of the La Liga with Bayern Munich while they don't spend too much money like Bayern Munich.
Also, Dortmund is getting what they need, they are racing in one of the best leagues with one of the best teams while they are also making a good amount of money which is what they want,
For sure they want and wanted to make some money in the last years but they also wanted to get the german title.
And at some stage its anymore possible to hold very good young players when they will get some huge more money at other clubs.
If Dortmund would be tried to hold all this players they would be run out of money and maybe dosnt stay as good as they are right now financially.
Personally, I'm proud of Dortmund, they understand their game and the tactics to win and also get to make the money, I will never crucify them for it. And as for the record, they are a very strong club to reckon with, they are always finishing atop regardless of how they use young players, and they actually understand the game and the business. Even at their current status, they are just 2 points below the top spot, which is the same level as Bayern Munich as well.

I believe that if Dortmund could be more serious this season, they might toughly displace Bayern Munich and win the season. I judge this by how Bayern plays, it might not be obvious yet but it's not perfectly like when they are in their utmost form.

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October 16, 2023, 04:27:29 PM
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Just imagine that Dortmund doesn't have the selling mentality and see what their squad and their legendary squad will look lik, let's just try to mention
  • Lewandoski 
  • Aubameyang
  • Sancho
  • Haaland 
  • Bellingham
I know I have omitted many but the fact is that Dortmund doesn't want to build for long. They are simply doing what they are used to doing and what they think gives them results.
Borussia Dortmund would have been a great team if they hadn't sold these players. But when Real Madrid or Bayern Munich make the players a transfer offer, the players are affected. If I was a Borussia Dortmund player, I would immediately accept a transfer offer from Bayern Munich or Real Madrid, because playing for bigger teams means winning more trophies and having a better career. Lewandoski won many trophies at Bayern Munich. Haaland won both the English Premier League and the Champions League in his first year at Manchester City. Had Haaland stayed at Borussia Dortmund, maybe he would never have won the Champions League.

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October 16, 2023, 04:48:25 PM
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There is nothing wrong with doing business in the football industry and that is what they do to make a profit. If the business is run like the one run by the owner of Dortmund, they will never achieve the club's achievements. The reason is that they only focus on selling players and never try to buy quality players at high prices. A trophy is a big hope for any club, but if the club does not have a supporting force of quality players then it will be difficult for them to achieve it.
Obviously, These Football clubs are not just there for entertainment's sake but are also for their business dealings and I do believe this is why Dortmund sold this incredible player at some point,  fast forward back to when Arsene Wenger was in Arsenal as the head coach, this was a kind of business Arsenal football club was into, grooming of players and selling them when they are at their best to raise money for the club.
Are you aware, that even though Dortmund always sells talented players, in reality, Dortmund is still capable and/or successful in becoming a team that can compete well in the title race every season? Last season Dortmund almost won the Bundesliga title, but Dortmund again and again had bad luck in the last match of last season. So yes, even though Dortmund prioritizes business and profits, the reality is that Dortmund still has very good management to remain a title-challenging team every season and that is of course great I guess.
I agree with you, this is the angle at which the club should equally focus or pay more attention to, in the sense that while they do business as usual selling those key players, they should also ensure that the club is still living up to their expectations by winning trophies without the club feeling of the negative impacts in term of the player departure affecting the overall performance of the team because of their contribution to the club.

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