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481  Economy / Speculation / Re: What price you expect bitcoin by 30 September? on: September 24, 2017, 08:37:14 AM
Forget about China for a moment, i just see the current price movements at now, according to my view of the current bitcoin price movement it seems that on September 30 bitcoin prices probably will not be as far away from $3800 as possible. But we know bitcoin price is sometimes difficult to guess, well i just hope bitcoin price can reach $4000 back although it seems like rather heavy to reach that figure when viewed from the movement of the price at now.
September 30th is an important date because on that date we will see how china decides. decisions and regulations made by china may affect bitcoin prices. it can not be denied that china is currently having a huge impact, so do not forget that on September 30th there will be a bitcoin price determination overall. a decrease or increase will be at stake after that day.
482  Economy / Speculation / Re: what you think about bitcoin in like 5 years? on: September 24, 2017, 08:31:42 AM
I think the bitcoin course will grow fast. Bitcoin is used as a digital currency in countries where there is no stable monetary system, so it plays a safety role for investors. The reason for the rapid growth of Bitcoin is the significant demand for alternative digital currencies. People are interested in using bitcoin, and this interest will only increase, considering political and economical situation in the world. Bitcoin can become an alternative to gold.
bitcoin will continue to evolve over the present, we can see how bitcoin users are increasing nowadays. that's a factor that can influence the rapid rise of bitcoin prices. I think the most important thing is how currently bitcoin users should be given the education that the more we use bitcoin so we can see the better bitcoin price.
483  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: After China & Russia, now India on: September 23, 2017, 03:09:51 PM


India’s Government Agencies Still Have ‘Concerns’ About Bitcoin

Indian officials revealed last week that the country’s tax agency and investigation task force have concerns about money laundering and black market activities associated with bitcoin. India’s Special Investigation Team (SIT) is in the midst of drafting a report detailing problematic issues regarding the decentralized cryptocurrency.

What do you think?
honestly this can make a bad impact on the development of bitcoin at this time. If India follows what China is doing then there will be global panic. India also has a very large population, just as China is an important part of bitcoin development. I think maybe there should be no action from another country. because of course this can make things worse.
484  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin merubah perekonomian suatu negara on: September 22, 2017, 01:31:45 AM
kemungkinannya sih pasti bisa merubah perekonomian di suatu negara.. tapi itu juga perlu banyak faktor faktor pendukung untuk tercapainya hal tersebut.. misalnya kita ambil contoh di negara kita yang tercinta ini, belum terlalu banyak masyarakat paham akan apa itu BITCOIN dan juga belum juga terlalu banyak publikasi atau seminar-seminar tentang pengenalan dunia crypto... mungkin kalau sudah semua rakyat indonesia paham dan tahu apa itu bitcoin serta didukung dengan sumber daya yang memadai (internet) niscaya bisa memajukan perekonomian walaupun tidak begitu signifikan.
kalo secara garis lurusnya sih bitcoin sebenarnya sudah memiliki aspek-aspek tertentu yaitu bisa mengurangi penggangguran dan lihatlah sekarang ini para anak sma dan mahasiswa yang memang belum dituntut mendapatkan penghasilan maka karena adanya bitcoin mereka saat ini sudah bisa mendapatkan penghasilan . dan bagi yang sudah bekerja pun , saat ini mereka banyak mendapatkan penghasilan tambahan dari bitcoin . ini memang sulit , tapi kenyataannya bitcoin telah merubah banyak kehidupan orang di negara ini . jika terus dipertahankan maka bisa saja bitcoin akan meningkatkan taraf ekonomi sebagian besar masyarakat negara kita  .
485  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah disini ada yang hidup dari Bitcoin? on: September 22, 2017, 01:16:15 AM
disini sudah banyak sekarang user yang telah mendapatkan penghasilan yang luar biasa dari bekerja di bitcoin . mereka rata rata melakukan penambangan dan juga trading . kalo saya lebih prefer ke trading dan alhamdulillah setiap bulan bisa mendapatkan hasil di atas 10 juta . kalo orang lain bahkan sudah ada yang bisa mendapatkan ratusan juta rupiah setiap bulannya . tentunya sekarang ane termotivasi untuk bisa mendapatkan hasil yang lebih baik . kalo menurut ane lebih baik agan mencoba melakukan trading sejak awal , pelajari segala hal yang bisa memberikan manfaat karena trading adalah sebuah pekerjaan yang sangat mengandalkan skill dan pengalaman . jadi belajarlah dengan semangat mulai saat ini dan agan akan mendapatkan manfaatnya nanti .
486  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you see trading as fun and games? on: September 22, 2017, 12:17:21 AM
maybe i will always consider trading seriously. instead I am a perfectionist, but I prefer to succeed in making every decision. my goal in trading is earnings. so I will not waste my opportunities, every decision I take with analysis and strategy. so with that then my chances to get profit from margin buy and sell is bigger.
487  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin Prices Reach $5,000 Again Without China? on: September 21, 2017, 11:44:32 PM
Definitely Bitcoin will reach that price even without these Chinese investors.  It may take a while but we know Bitcoin is expanding its market everyday.  More and more people are going into cryptocurrency so this gap that Chinese government made will eventually filled by the new bloods in cryptocurrency.  Let us just wait and see how Bitcoin recover its price and break the $5000 barrier once again.
yes it all depends on time. because we all believe that bitcoin has the power to do that even in the absence of china. bitcoin prices can reach quite high during this time because of the increasing bitcoin users who make transactions. so when now we can increase people who are interested in using bitcoin then this can add positive impact to the development of bitcoin. not the most important china but the more people who use bitcoin.
488  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: apa sebab nya kerugian saat trading.? on: September 20, 2017, 09:15:53 AM
hallo agan semua,saya mu bertanyan tentang kerugian trading dalam miggu ini,itu sebab nya kenapa ya gan,apa karna saya membeli koin disaat harga tinggi,sehingga btc saya yang ada diwallet bitrex banyak hilang,dari 95% hingga tingal 65% bukan malah menambah tapi berkurang
mohon bantu sharing ilmu nya agan yang sudah master" dibidang trading sedikit .
terimakasih...?!
faktor kerugian saat melakukan trading adalah hal yang biasa . sebenarnya agan hanya perlu mengkalkulasikan berapa agan membeli sebuah coin dan berapa ketika agan menjualnya . itu saja sudah cukup untuk memperlihatkan apakah kita akan mengalami kerugian ataukah keuntungan .  kalau menjualnya di harga yang lebih bawah dibandingkan saat membelinya pasti dalam kondisi tertentu seperti panic sell atau kita membutuhkan uang , bisa juga ketika kita nalasia harga memang tidak memungkinkan naik lagi dan cenderung malah menurun terus lebih jauh .
489  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: saat ortu mengijinkan? on: September 20, 2017, 07:40:48 AM
ngasih ortunya kalo udah berhasil dapetin gaji/duit banyak aja gan jadi ada buktinya, kalo awal2 udah ngasih tau pasti mereka ga percayal
kalo ane mendingan dikumpulkan dulu selama setahun . nah setelah ada hasilnya maka total pasti akan banyak .  terus ngasih setiap bulan , pasti kerasanya luar biasa . di awal sih lebih baik diem dulu dan mungkin hanya menceritakan bahwa kita mendapatkan penghasilan yang lumayan . pada kenyataannya kita bisa mendapatkan hasil yang jauh lebih banyak .
490  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: September 20, 2017, 12:31:17 AM
liverpool is not stable performance
in EFL cup(league cup) liverpool lost from leicester 2 - 0
i think liverpool need striker with big star, this now liverpool striker, mane, roberto firmani, daniel struride, not enough can give trophy
star player  in liverpool only coutinho i think not enough, liverpool with super star gerrad torres or suarez can't give EPL trophy, this now squad very under quality is compare liverpool with gerrad squad
At the beginning of the season liverpool is very flattered because it can bring mohammed Salah and also maintain coutinho. but in reality the player can not make liverpool much stronger than last season. As I predicted it from the beginning, I think the reds fans are too cocky when they do not know the quality of their players at the start of the season. there must be a revamping of players and strategy quickly.
491  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin back to $ 4000 on: September 20, 2017, 12:05:24 AM
Yes I'm really happy to see how the community fought together against a strong opposition i was really scared to see the price drop by such a large margin in such a short period but the fact bitcoin is made from strengths we totally overcame another hurdle in the way of bitcoin, now all altcoins holder have to just wait
bitcoin through this horrible time with success. bitcoin only corrected in a few moments and then get through the bad dream. everyone will surely say that they are happy to see bitcoin again has a positive trend. now prices are starting to rise and we will continue to wait until bitcoin prices exceed  4000$ .
492  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you think about the future of bitcoin? on: September 19, 2017, 09:26:55 AM
Due to the forbidden of bitcoin transactions in China, what do you think about the future of bitcoin? Will it be banned?
bitcoin is now showing that the strength of bitcoin can beat the power of the country of china. bitcoin prices slowly began to rise and everyone has been happy to see the current state. I predict bitcoin will continue to grow for the better in the future, bitcoin in the future can be a tool of payment that is widely used and has been implemented in the financial system on a large scale. this certainly can not happen without the support of bitcoin. using bitcoin and introducing it to the wider community is the most effective way to increase the bitcoin's prestige.
493  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: September 19, 2017, 09:15:51 AM
I choose trading because trading has a smaller risk compared to gambling game. gambling games require luck while trading is determined by the skills we have. the conclusion is the skill and experience we can train while the luck can not we train, luck will not come when not the time. that's what makes gambling play very risky to play.
494  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What's your trading style? on: September 19, 2017, 08:13:16 AM
My trading style is I like to take quick a profit because I have a target for making a profit each day a minimum of 0.1BTC, besides, arbitrage also my favorite because it's also quick to get a profit.
 
you are a person who likes to trade in a short time. I also like that because we can ensure the benefits we get and avoid the risk of big losses if the coin price we have down very drastically. usually a short investment requires enormous capital, because we have to make decisions even though the coins we have are moving very little. it is a great opportunity and capital can generate big profits too.
495  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Rampok BITCOIN ? on: September 19, 2017, 06:13:29 AM
Sebaiknya file2 penting apalagi yang berharga seperti bitcoin disimpan dalam flashdisk khusus dan disimpan dalam brankas jadi tidak takut kalau laptopnya hilang atau dicuri orang.

paling tidak ada backup gan, kalau tidak kita kan bisa memakai google drive yang mana email dan paswordnya kita simpan di otak, saya rasa itu salah satu alternatif juga gan supaya lebih aman ke depannya
ya benar paling nggk ada backup kalo anda punya btc di market karena setiap market pasti punya Authenticator nya jadi bisa di bilang aman lah, apalagi kalo anda buat passfot yang rumit pada saat anda daftar. di jamin amandah, juga pas ngertik di konputer pastikan anda mengetik sampai habis.
kao ane sih membackup data bitcoin ane di flashdisk dan juga berbentuk kertas . kertas ane simpan karena memang itu bisa saya manfaatkan ketika data yang disimpan scara digital seperti flashdisk itu rentan . jadi alternative lainnya yaitu disimpan dalam bentuk fisik . ane yakin bahwa dengan begitu kita bakalan punya dua pilihan sehingga apabila satu pilihan ternyata rusak maka masih ada satu lagi yang bisa kita manfaatkan .
496  Economy / Speculation / Re: Short term investment on: September 19, 2017, 04:47:43 AM
Last few days the price of bitcoin down at 3000 dollars and if you see today is already 4000 dollard so if you bought bitcoin last few days you will earn profit. It is shorterm investment so what if you bought a lot of bitcoin for profit. But if you want a lot of profit you can hold it for few months or maybe few years or longterm investment. But no one knows what is the price of bitcoin.
for me bitcoin can be used for long-term investment and also short-term investment. I will invest long if the price continues to increase. and when prices are fluctuating and waves then I will make short-term investments. this depends on the strategy that we do. because the strategy we do must be in accordance with current conditions.
497  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin Still Go Up? on: September 19, 2017, 12:26:49 AM
Bitcoin will go up again as it's currently recovering slowly from the massive dump that was happened few days ago.Keep calm and buy more bitcoins! Smiley
Bitcoin has slowly recovered from the crazy crash that we had a few days ago, a few hours ago it was above 4000 now it is slightly below that but I think in the next days we are going to see a recovery that could reach 4200 to 4500 dollars in the rest of the week, the China FUD was very strong this time around but even then bitcoin was still able survive this storm.
bitcoin shows excellent prospects today. prices are rising steadily over the next few days. I was surprised to see the bitcoin price this morning.
a lot of very positive changes and bitcoin seems to have started apart from the negative impact of China's state decision.
498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: And now Vietnam to legalize Bitcoin on: September 19, 2017, 12:17:09 AM
Great piece of news coming from Vietnam, I really think more countries are going to follow suite as the Bitcoin awareness is spread around the world. We thought it would stop at Japan but now look at the numbers, I think Vietnamese and the world at large stand a great chance of improving their economy with Bitcoin.
this is a progress that must be appreciated. when bitcoin begins to be legalized by many countries it will make the bitcoin price increase. I had thought that a few days ago China would stop bitcoin. but it seems the bitcoin is too strong and now it will add another state that will support bitcoin.
499  Economy / Speculation / Re: China is buying - Something's coming up on: September 18, 2017, 09:18:29 AM
I don't get it. china declared that they're going to banned exchanges of coins from their country that's why people do panic selling that's why bitcoin had a big dump this past few days. and now they're buying ? hmm. I smell something from this scenario. im lucky because i didn't sell out my coins when bitcoin had a big dump under $3000.
this does look quite strange. like there is an odd scenario. China has previously done bitcoin sales thoroughly, but now when we see the volume in the exchange china seen there is a significant increase. I will not take a headache, the most important bitcoin price increases and I can still earn from bitcoin.
500  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoin reach $5000 again without China ? on: September 18, 2017, 02:46:46 AM
After the fall due to china ban , Bitcoin has dropped on short term basis .
Can it reach up to $5000 again without China ?
China is a big country and it is a very big contributor in bitcoin but even though China ban bitcoins it will surely recover as there are many countries who adopted it already.
So for me there is a big chance that it will reach to 5k within this year.
I think china will not completely ban bitcoin. this will take place in just a few moments, the Chinese state will come back and stop the ban on the use of bitcoin. so I still believe that there is no ban on bitcoin in any country in the world. the development of bitcoin will prove that bitcoin is currently in great demand and is also welcomed openly by the world community.
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