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721  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: BITCOIN untuk Dunia, Dunia butuh BITCOIN on: July 21, 2017, 01:28:12 AM
ane pilih satu dan tiga gan
 1 bit coin akan terus melonjak tinggi harga nya dan itu pasti paling klo turun juga dikit gan.
 3  akan memajukan sebuah negara karena biaya pembuatan uang konfensional pasti tidak akan ada dan biaya itu bisa di berdayakan pada pembangunan negara tersebut.
saya setuju pilihan agan bitcoin nilainya fluktuatif cenderung naik dan akan memajukan negara dengan mengurangi biaya pencetakan dan akuntabilitas yang transparan bebas korupsi dengan catatan tak harus bitcoinnya juga negara bisa mengadopsi teknologi dari bitcoin itu.
tapi bitcoin memiliki sebuah keuntungan yang bisa saja dimanfaatkan dengan tidak baik . seperti transparansinya ketika digunakan , jika bitcoin digunakan untuk tindakan yang ilegal tentunya ini akan membuat sebuah transaksi akan sulit untuk dilacak .  korupsi menjadi salah satu dasar kenapa harus adanya sebuah system yang mengatur tentang hal tersebut .
722  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can you suggest a better way?? on: July 21, 2017, 01:02:13 AM
The market is falling is it the affect of the upcoming segwit? Or just a normal move in the market in which is the up and down of the price?? Is it ok to hold bitcoins in the exchanger? Can you help me???
I would prioritize doing a hold on the wallet. Because we will not know what will happen after Segwit, the bitcoin market is still unpredictable. If you want to secure the bitcoin you have then doing hold will make you less affected, you can still speculate that the bitcoin price will still be the same as what you see today.
723  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price starting to rise on: July 21, 2017, 12:52:54 AM
You guys must have noticed that bitcoin is now rising from #2300 to $2600 currently today. It's starting to regain its value. I have big faith on bitcoins.

What can you say about that? Will it go down again or will it continue to rise?


On some exchange even now bitcoin is already above 2800 $, this is indeed a significant increase. I am still convinced that there will be an increase again. Bitcoin price will reach 3000 $ until finally we see what will happen after segwit. This will be the future determinant of bitcoin in the world market.
724  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: July 20, 2017, 11:25:37 AM
Playing gambling is easy. We just have to bet on luck. If we are not lucky then we will not get any.
Otherwise when we are lucky then we can get any thing. So gambling is not a definite job, gambling is a very risky thing for me.
725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with the people who don't like Bitcoin? on: July 20, 2017, 11:21:27 AM
What would you do when you're talking to someone but then he suddenly talks about his hatred on Bitcoin, what would you react to it?

I've never actually experienced anything like this before, I just want to be prepared when it happened to me.
For those people who doesn't like the bitcon I can say that just ignore them if they say bad things to the bitcoin.
Many of them do not like bitcoin because they have not understood the benefits of bitcoin. I think do not be too indifferent, maybe it would be better if you give a little information for him. When he refuses, you can ignore them, I think it's okay to help
How would they like if they don't understand. Actually if they are open with the new idea they would have easily understood bitcoin.
Just like me, I never receive any information from someone about bitcoin but I did my research until I fully understand bitcoin.
Now, I am satisfied user and investor who are making money from it.
The most important is the openness in accepting new knowledge. Because if they can think like that then bitcoin is easy to use.
I think they will use it, even in their daily activities.
726  Other / Off-topic / Re: Job Vs Bitcoin on: July 20, 2017, 05:21:07 AM
Do not quit your job man, you can focus on bitcoin while working too. Its not like you're gonna be studying 30 hours a week for your bitcoin graduation, its just normal stuff, research, read, ask and learn. But quitting your job for it is too much, maybe you can do that once you have earned a couple of hundred bitcoins at least in your wallet.
Each person must have their respective priorities. Working in the real world and bitcoin world I think is the same.
The important thing is that we can get what we want, such as a monthly income that is sufficient for the cost of daily living.
727  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin hanya mengisi waktu luang atau Prioritas ? on: July 20, 2017, 05:18:50 AM
pertama kali saya menggunakan bitcoin adalah hanya untuk mengisi waktu luang . namun seiring berjalannya waktu saat ini saya memprioritaskan bitcoin sama halnya dengan pekerjaan saya di dunia nyata  . saat ini saya mendapatkan jumlah bitcoin yang lumayan besar sehingga saya tidak ingin melepaskan kesempatan ini dengan sia sia . yang terpenting adalah bisa membagi waktu , karena dengan pembagian waktu yang tepat maka kita akan bisa menghasilkan suatu yang memuaskan .
728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: July 20, 2017, 01:10:53 AM
If you had bought bitcoins earlier when its price was just $1850,it would had been much better.Still its not too late since bitcoin's price is $2269 now and it would be late if bitcoin starts crossing $3000 after segwit activation.
They are one of the lucky people in the world. At this time the bitcoin price has returned to the positive treck, but we do not know what will happen after segwit. Bitcoin prices can decrease and rise, all can not be predicted easily. Only a time can prove what will happen to bitcoin.
729  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: bila pasar tradisional di indonesia menerima pembayaran bitcoin? on: July 20, 2017, 01:08:41 AM
melakukan adopsi bitcoin di pasar tradisional adalah sebuah hal yang sangat sulit . kecuali nantinya teknologi bitcoin sudah bisa menerapkan kecanggihan yang luar biasa . mungkin nanti transfer bitcoin bisa dilakukan dengan sekali sentuh , dan keamanan juga terjamin . seperti di film film amerika , semuanya perlu investasi teknologi yang besar .
730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin rise or fall? CONFUSED on: July 19, 2017, 12:56:13 PM
I think you already realized what kind of mistake you done. It's just two days passed and bitcoin added more than 200$ to it's price. Bitcoin will raise back, I don't doubt in that, I just can't tell you when exactly it will cost 2800$ again.
Everyone who has bitcoin definitely feel disappointed with what they do. Just look at the moment, bitcoin prices are rising and they're losing a lot of money for selling bitcoins at low price rates. So if you look at the needs of bitcoin then it could be bitcoin will be easy to be known by many people. As more and more are familiar with bitcoin, the higher the bitcoin price. This is the law of demand for whatever exists in this world.
731  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency? on: July 19, 2017, 12:50:43 PM
Since bitcoin is trending now world wide because you can easily earn this and it exchange in real cash. Is bitcoin the new value of currency in the internet? Is he the new money? Can we use it in buying foods and etc in the future?
Bitcoin is the latest currency that currently has a digital system. So that all transactions conducted run computerized. Bitcoin has many users and is now going to continue to grow until the future bitcoin can be used by all sectors in the world. The purpose of bitcoin is as a currency that can be used in daily economic activities. Bitcoin offers advantages of speed and ease in making money transfer transactions.
732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin dip below 2000 again before Aug 1? on: July 19, 2017, 08:27:06 AM
yes because because the last week before august 1st is the real panic selling where half of the user in bitcoin would definitely sell their bitcoin because they don't want to risk their btc just to stand what they into. but being a aware on what's possibly could happen is the most better to do. I've been part of bitcoin since the price of bitcoin is around $500 so i know what it feels when i sell out all my bitcoin when the august 1st will come. so just like what im always saying its better to be safe than sorry.
Anything can happen to bitcoin. Bitcoin prices will be easy to change, especially you are people who have long known bitcoin.
Many stories that we can use as a lesson. Do not be strange when you see bitcoin prices increase and decrease easily.
733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we ever see bitcoin lower than 1000$? on: July 19, 2017, 06:00:33 AM
$1000 price is history now and we will never see that price again as even if the price of bitcoin falls in coming days or months it won't go below $1500 for sure so if you are waiting to buy bitcoins at that price then you are surely wasting your time as that day will never come in future.
It is sad but we have to admit that. We can never buy bitcoin with the cheap price anymore and that is very terrible. On the other hand, Bitcoin is now becoming a part of the world and everyone knows about it because of its high price
Bitcoin prices have become very fantastic nowadays. However today the bitcoin price has exceeded many predictions, a few days ago bitcoin prices never decreased but it only lasted a few days only. Bitcoin prices are back to normal and currently above $ 2300. Everyone is happy because bitcoin has returned to the positive track.
734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: July 19, 2017, 05:26:51 AM
If I have to make one choice then I will prefer to with concrete way of earning money and that is possible only with trading and not with gambling as in gambling only luck will decide your profits but in trading with good knowledge, skills and strategies you can make regular income.
Really, gambling games do not give us a clear result because gambling games are more hopeful of luck. On the contrary, trading is a job that requires analysis. So that when we can do the analysis and strategy correctly then we can achieve a fair proficiency. Investment in the world of trading is the best choice for me.
735  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Akses Bitcointalk dengan smartphone on: July 19, 2017, 04:48:48 AM
hadeh iini siapa pulak yg bilang gak ada appsnya
silahkan dicek ada kok di playstore
tapi kalo ane misal buka btt di hp lebih enakan pake browser biasa sih wkwk appsnya banyak bug Angry
yang agan lihat bukan versi resmi dari official forum  bitcointalk . itu dikembangkan sendiri oleh perorangan atau komunitas yang juga pengguna forum ini . kalo ane rasa sih riskan juga kalo menggunakan aplikasi pihak ketiga , apalagi saat ini account di bitcointalk itu berharga . lebih baik cari aman , so karena menggunakan browser juga tetap nyaman nyaman saja . yang penting isi dari forum yang kita akses ini memberikan informasi yang berbobot .
736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why should people use Bitcoin? on: July 19, 2017, 04:42:31 AM
Definitely faster transaction with less charges. Also its value increases as time passes by. In a line with that,you are the one who'll manage your account's liability. People can also use it online. There are lots of people who gained profit in bitcoin, there's a big possibility that others too, will benefit from it. Best investment in the future, indeed.
Yes, bitcoin is a tremendous financial transaction medium. In addition to fast in every transaction, bitcoin has ease in doing every transaction that we do. In addition to being used as currency, bitcoin is also used as a lucrative investment tool. Already many people who become rich because of investments in bitcoin.
737  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: JANGAN TERTIPU DENGAN PENURUNAN HARGA PADA BITCOIN!! on: July 19, 2017, 12:54:48 AM
bitcoin itu memang susah diprediksi dan sebenernya saya bertanya-tanya apakah ada skenario disaat orang mengira harga bitcoin akan selalu turun sampe akhir bulan tapi ternyata terjadi kenaikan harga yang signifikan hari ini dan apakah ini jebakan para traders besar disana agar orang-orang ikutan membeli bitcoin dan nanti malahan harganya akan didumped lagi sebelum 1 agustus karena bila itu terjadi maka banyak orang akan merugi lagi
ane sih yakin pasti diluar sana ada sebuah komunitas atau perkumpulan besar yang memang terdiri dari para orang orang yang memiliki jumlah kekayaan yang besar . mereka mengatur pergerakan harga dengan melakukan  pumping dan dumping . secara sederhana ane juga dulu pernah melakukannya saat ada sebuah project altcoin , ketika ane bisa menguasai sekitar 20% dari total supply koin tersebut maka dipastikan ane bisa menggerakan harga . nah ini adalah bitcoin , jadi pasti dana yang dibutuhkan sangat besar sekali . asalkan kita bisa mengusai beberapa persen dari total supply bitcoin bukan tidak mungkin kita bisa melakukan skenario seperti yang terjadi beberapa hari yang lalu .
738  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will be the next big increase in bitcoin? on: July 19, 2017, 12:44:48 AM
Definitely a few weeks after the segwit. Since I, personally, am expecting a drop in price in the last week of july and then the boom after the few weeks.

Hoping for that price drop like the the plant for rain during the summer. :/
The safest time is after segwit because the price is expected to have stability and also after segwit bitcoin prices could have a clear benchmark.
If the current price declines of course this is an opportunity to earn profits by buying bitcoin, and then sell it in the future at a higher price.
739  Economy / Speculation / Re: Btc Raising, price recovery on: July 19, 2017, 12:42:05 AM
After experiencing price declines at the end of last week, BTC and some altcoin had correction and recovery prices.
Currently the price has improved. If you want to buy and save, this is a good time.
So there were agree that making BTC price stability is more important than worrying about SegWit issue.

Now things have improved, but we can not confirm what will happen in the future. A price stability is indeed the most important thing, because with stability we can get competitive bitcoin prices. Competitive in the sense that bitcoin prices are not easy to be corrected by the negative news that happened at the time.
740  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: July 18, 2017, 10:00:32 PM
katanya penyebab bitcoin naik menjelang Segwit ini karena traders dari Jepang, Korea dan trader dari Afrika banyak yang memborong bitcoin dan sepertinya mereka ga terpengaruh dengan isu harga bitcoin turun dan apabila situasi ini terus-terusan terjadi maka harga bitcoin akan bertahan dilevel 30 jutaan setidaknya sampe menjelang akhir bulan
Sudah mau menyentuh level 32 jutaan.  Sangat menyesal sudah menjual hampir semua bitcoin yang dimiliki di rates 26 juta dan ternyata sekarang meningkat lagi. 
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