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21  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Blackjack, Roulette, 3 Card Poker, Slots and more! on: July 24, 2013, 10:41:49 PM
I have scanned for viruses.. nothing...

I have only 1 tab opened and this happens only on bitzino when I "Roll"... It increases only when I hit Roll and and when i refresh the bitzino page it goes back to normal. When I start rolling again it increases. It is possible that it is something on my side... I will investigate further... for the time being I just refresh from time to time. If I have something I will report back.

Thank you for the additional information! It looks like there was indeed a leak in our craps game. The javascript code was continuing to animate the roll of the dice in the background indefinitely, which was causing the problem with both memory and CPU usage.

We have pushed a fix to this problem, so you no longer will need to refresh the page periodically when playing craps.

Thank you for reporting this issue to us wazaaster! Can you let me know your bitZino username (or PM it to me) so that I can comp you!
22  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Blackjack, Roulette, 3 Card Poker, Slots and more! on: July 24, 2013, 07:36:08 PM
Hello there!

I play since yesterday and bet a lot but there is memory leaks and CPU leaks!

50% CPU sometimes... memory goes up to 880MB ram... maybe that is all i have available...

Browser: Opera, Firefox, Chrome... with all of them is the same....

here is video... http://imageshack.us/clip/my-videos/836/zinrgshbkfytqazobxkqcm.mp4/

Hm, strange. I cannot seem to replicate this. I did not see any significant memory increase after loading up blackjack on fresh opens of both firefox and chrome. In chrome, I went to the chrome://memory-redirect/ page, and it looks like my bitZino blackjack tab is only using 25,508k. In firefox, I went to about:memory, and it looks like my blackjack tab is only using 12.79 MB.

Is it possible that something else on your system is causing the memory spikes?
23  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Blackjack, Roulette, 3 Card Poker, Slots and more! on: July 15, 2013, 04:19:42 AM
Thanks for the kind words everyone! Deposit and withdrawal processing is now fully back up. Sorry for the inconvenience from any delayed deposits or withdrawals.
24  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Blackjack, Roulette, 3 Card Poker, Slots and more! on: July 15, 2013, 02:37:49 AM
Is there something wrong with deposits I deposited 1.48042982 BTC and after 5 confirmations still nothing in my account ?  I sent you a pm with details and contacted support.  Really want to get this resolved.

Sorry for the troubles! We have reached out to your support email. It looks like our deposit processing system is down for the moment, but it will be up again shortly.
25  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Blackjack, Roulette, 3 Card Poker, Slots and more! on: July 14, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
What's your highest bet ever placed on Roulette?

Our max limit in Roulette is currently 100 BTC, and we have had many players bet up to this.
26  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: July 11, 2013, 05:38:13 PM
This site is scam, 47 times without getting the second dozen in the roullete... Its IMPOSIBLE.

Hi Wolf, Can you please let me know your username on bitZino so that I can pull up your hand history? I'm really curious to see this streak. You're also welcome to reach out to our support team (https://bitzino.com/support) if you'd like to get your hand history privately sent to you.

Our provably fair system for shuffling the cards (which you can read about at https://bitzino.com/about/fair) makes it impossible for us to manipulate the outcome of any wagers without being detected. This ensures that the outcomes of random events in games on bitZino are truly random. So, while it is possible for a streak this long to occur, it is highly unlikely, and I suspect there were actually a few wins in there that you might have missed. Either way, I'm very curious!
27  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: July 08, 2013, 01:24:46 PM
I have lost round about $100 @ bitzino in the last month. Mostly all from my own stupid mistakes. Love the site though Smiley

I'm glad you're enjoying the site! Please let me know if there's anything we can do to improve!

regarding the roulette game, how does having the client seed and hash(secret) prove that it is a provably fair game?

thanks

Our provably fair process is explained on our website at https://bitzino.com/about/fair, and in technical depth on our tech blog.

At a high level though, here's how it works: the `client_seed` is generated by you or your browser before every hand is played, and is not known by our servers. This `client_seed` is then sent to our servers at the same time that a new hand is started. Our servers reshuffle the deck using the `client_seed` (Roulette uses a modified deck of cards, it's just a 37-card deck, with each card representing a number on the wheel. The top card is used to determine the outcome of the spin). After the hand is over, the `secret` is revealed, and you can verify both that the `Hash(secret)` correctly hashes to the `secret`, and that the `client_seed` was correctly used to reshuffle the deck. Because we had no way of knowing what the `client_seed` was before the hand started, there is no way for us to manipulate the outcome of the final shuffle.

I hope that helps!
28  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: June 14, 2013, 09:58:04 PM
Quik Q:
minimum bet for Video Poker?

The minimum bet for all games is 0.000001 BTC (1 micro-BTC)
29  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: June 14, 2013, 09:57:27 PM
I am very sorry about the downtime. We had some unexpected hardware failure.

We are now back up and fully operational. All deposits made during the downtime have been successfully credited to everyone's accounts.
30  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: June 06, 2013, 12:52:44 PM

Thanks for the heads-up!

Here's my response:

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Creator of bitZino here. Thanks for writing this post, TrevorXavier! I firmly believe that the best cryptography is that which is practiced in the open, with honest and open discussion about any possible weaknesses or avenues of attack.

I've read through your entire post, and I believe that at the core, you are discussing two main issues you see with our provably fair system:

The first issue is that of "stalling". In the rare event that our servers do fail to respond (either due to internet connectivity issues, or downtime on our end), this problem can easily be mitigated by a player by simply ensuring the `Hash(secret)` has not changed, and then re-entering the same `client_seed` after reloading the page.

The second issue is that of tainting the javascript that is being executed on the player's browser (Cold Deck, Hot Reading, Mutation, and Controlled Secret all fall under this). I do agree that if we managed to slip dirty code past our users, these are potentially viable attacks. However. these are all very high-risk frauds to perpetrate, because if we were caught doing this, even once, we would completely sacrifice our reputation and future earnings potential.

Furthermore, these attacks are all relatively easy for a savvy user to detect. Since modern browsers come with built-in network analysis tools, it is easy for anyone to see all data being sent down the wire. These tools would make it very easy to detect if we tried to sneak javascript partials into ajax requests.

Ultimately though, a player can be protected from all of these attacks by running a client-side greasemonkey script which generates the client_seed (rather than relying on any code sent from our servers). And, in fact, this is already possible today due to the nature of our app being in HTML5. We have already seen a handful of our players doing this on their own (we can detect it because the client_seeds they send are formatted differently than the ones our javascript generates). Additionally, if a player just edits the client_seed by hand before they play, they are also protected from any of the attacks you listed.

At the end of the day, we still haven't fully solved the trust issue of browser-based cryptography. But, our system still accomplishes its goal - it forces us to either be honest, or take a large risk. We simply have no way to manipulate the outcome of any wagers made on bitZino without taking a risk of being caught. That's why our system is indeed provably fair: it allows savvy players to ensure the house isn't cheating them.

Thanks again for the insightful post!
31  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: June 01, 2013, 03:53:03 AM
To get to those potential extra hands, though, the initial hands in the shoe would have been advantageous.  If, on average a shoe gives a full table say, 6 hands, then a table that reaches the 8th hand most likely had more advantageous cards during the hands that came before it.  There was just no way of knowing it at the time.  I think it is accurate to say that there is no known advantage at the beginning of a shoe.  But, without counting cards (but counting hands), one can assume that an 8th, 9th, 10th, etc. hand at a table that averages 6/shoe is less advantageous than an average first hand.  But it is so only because the initial hands were more advantageous.

Ok, I think I found some good reasoning that actually makes sense! I kept reading the thread on the bjmath.com site, and the exact question is answered:

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I agree with you that if the cut-card is placed such that the number of rounds dealt is usually three, then on those occasions when a fourth round is dealt it will be dealt from a 10-poor deck.

But on those occasions, the first three rounds will have been dealt from a set of cards rich in 10s (and other high cards).

That is right. But those three rounds that are rich in 10s are already reflected in the Basic Strategy (no cut-card) EV. That is, without a cut-card we are going to some rounds which are rich in 10s, and some which are lean. The average of all of these is reflected in the BS expectation.

Here is a though experiment which may help clarify. Imagine two players Me (M) and my Shadow(S) betting on the same spot. S is basically making "over-the-shoulder" bets on my box. The hands are played in accordance with BS and we both must put up more money when we split and double.

Suppose the games is dealt with the cut-card listed above. M flat-bets on all the rounds. S bets the same on the first three rounds, but never plays a 4th round. Now S's EV should be that of Basic Strategy (full-deck). My EV is clearly less than S. The only difference between us is the money I lose on those negative 4th rounds. So M is worse off with the cut-card.

Now when there is a 4th round, the first 3 rounds are favorable to M. But they are also favorable to S. S gets all the benefits of those, but doesn't actually bet the negative 4th round.

This is in the domain of strange counter-intuitive probability outcomes, kinda like the Monty Hall problem.
32  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: May 31, 2013, 10:55:50 PM
but the bad hand or two at the end seems like it wouldn't negate the advantage from all the good hands the player saw in the rest of the shoe.

I think there actually is no advantage for the cards in the beginning of the shoe (assuming you're just playing basic strategy and not counting). Apparently there is actually a proof of this (according to: http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/conseq/cutcard/cut1.htm). So, that means that the only thing that affects the odds are the potential extra hands that get dealt a the end, which are always worse.
33  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: May 31, 2013, 08:23:10 PM
Where am I going wrong here?

If there's a cut-card 70% of the way through the deck, 30% of cards are unplayed.

If those unplayed cards are rich in low cards:
 * the played cards are rich in high cards
 * so hands use relatively few cards (players don't hit much)
 * so relatively many hands are played per shoe
 * and players do well (high cards are good for player)

Conversely, if the unplayed cards are rich in high cards:
 * the played cards are rich in low cards
 * so hands use relatively many cards (players hit more with low cards)
 * so relatively few hands are played per shoe
 * and players do badly (low cards are bad for player)

So the players with see many good hands, or few bad hands per shoe.

That sounds like on average players will do better with a cut-card than if you shuffle every hand, since they'll see more good than bad hands.

The wizard's simulation shows exactly the opposite to be true.  So where am I going wrong here?

I am curious too, because your reasoning does sound right. I found this other article linked to from the wizard's page: http://www.blackjackincolor.com/blackjackeffects1.htm

I like their explanation:

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In this set of circumstances, if you deal to a cut card you may get five, six or seven rounds depending on the cards. This is because the player and dealer can have hands of two cards or many cards. If there are many high cards (e.g. tens) dealt, we will end up with two- and three-card hands. If there are small cards dealt, we will end up with hands with many cards. So, if we are dealing to a fixed point, and we are dealt a lot of large cards, then we will use fewer cards per round and get an extra round or two. The problem is that these extra rounds will be dealt from a deck with fewer high cards because they have been used up. And we know that a deck with few high cards left is bad for the player.

I also like their chart. It shows that the earlier hands will have the same odds regardless, the difference in odds comes later on, in the extra hands that are being played as a result of the earlier good hands.
34  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: May 30, 2013, 12:48:30 AM
So, by reshuffling the deck before every hand, there is no chance that the player winds up in a situation where the showshoe is unfavorable because it is rich in small cards.

I can't agree with that statement.  When playing through to a cut-card, the player gets into this situation if the cards near the cut-card are rich in small cards.  That's just as likely to be the case as the top of the deck being rich in small cards.  The only difference is that when playing through the shoe the player can count the number of hands he's played, and if it's too high he can know that he's in a bad situation, and so he can lower his bet accordingly, or walk away.  When playing with a freshly shuffled deck he's just as likely to be in this bad low-card situation, but has no way of knowing it.

Yeah, you're right. My attempt at a summary was overly simplified. The reasoning behind the difference in odds is more complicated.

But, the underlying conclusion is still right: If the player is playing basic strategy and not counting cards, then the first hand in a freshly shuffled shoe has a slightly lower house edge.
35  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: May 29, 2013, 06:16:43 PM
I was really curious what the effect of constant shuffling actually has on the house edge in blackjack. I thought I remembered reading about it on wizardofodds.com a while ago, so I went and dug up the article I read:

http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/appendix/10/

This article discusses the impact of using a continuous shuffling machine (CSM) in blackjack. As the wizard says: "With one in use it is like playing against a freshly shuffled shoe every hand", so this is effectively the exact same thing bitZino is doing.

According to the wizard (and he seems to be very spot-on with all his statistical analysis), using a CSM actually lowers the house edge. In an 8 deck show (as bitZino uses), it seems to lower the house edge by 0.014%.

The reason for this phenomenon isn't really because the first hands have better odds for the player, it's that the last hands in a shoe can sometimes wind up in a situation with much worse odds for the player. As the article says:

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However if the dealer deals out much more than the average number of hands in a cut card game the last hands tend to be very bad for the player. This is because in the early hands the players and dealer didn't hit much, which in turn is because lots of large cards came out, leaving more small cards for later in the shoe.

So, by reshuffling the deck before every hand, there is no chance that the player winds up in a situation where the show is unfavorable because it is rich in small cards.
36  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: May 28, 2013, 06:56:34 PM
Answer me this how are the cards dealt in blackjack on bitzino?  Is it a new deck of 52 cards every deal? 

Short answer: our blackjack game uses 8 standard 52-card decks which are reshuffled before every hand.

Long answer: Every single blackjack hand played on bitZino is a fresh set of 8 decks of cards (each of the 8 decks are standard 52-card decks, thus making a blackjack deck contain 416 cards). Before each hand a fresh blackjack deck (containing 416 cards) is shuffled on bitZino's servers using a cryptographically secure random number generator. The hash of this "initial_shuffle" is then presented to you, and your browser are also asked to generate a random "client_seed" (you are also free to manually modify this client_seed). BitZino's servers then reshuffle the deck using the client_seed provided by you as the source of randomness.

This reshuffling process is what allows the game to truly be provably fair. Since our servers have no knowledge of the client_seed until the exact moment the game is starting, it is impossible for us to manipulate the outcome of any games, without making it obvious that we've done so.

I'm happy to answer any more questions about our provably fair process! We also wrote up a detailed technical blog post if you really want to get into the nitty-gritty details: https://techblog.bitzino.com/2012-06-30-provably-fair-shuffling-through-cryptography.html
37  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: May 28, 2013, 06:19:37 PM
I received 5 blackjacks in a row.  3 in a row is a statistical improbability let alone 5.  I'm done playing here.

I can assure you that our games are fair. In fact, it is computationally impossible for us to manipulate the outcome of any games played at bitZino, due to the provably fair system of shuffling we use across all of your games. I encourage you to read more about it at https://bitzino.com/about/fair!
Correction, I was dealt 5 in a row.  How can you call that fair?  Probably not fair.  Props to you my man, you're getting rich!

I was trying to find a record of this occurrence in our gameplay logs, and couldn't seem to pick it out. I was only looking in a limited timeframe though, so maybe I missed it. In total, we have seen 3.5 million hands of blackjack played, so I wouldn't be surprised if this has occurred at least once within our history.

If you'd like, I'd be happy to send you a log of all your gameplay on bitZino. These logs will include all gameplay information as well as all the information required to verify they were dealt in a provably fair manner. You are welcome to verify the provably fair information as well as do any statistical analysis you'd like over the set of data!
38  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: May 28, 2013, 02:58:22 AM
I received 5 blackjacks in a row.  3 in a row is a statistical improbability let alone 5.  I'm done playing here.

I can assure you that our games are fair. In fact, it is computationally impossible for us to manipulate the outcome of any games played at bitZino, due to the provably fair system of shuffling we use across all of your games. I encourage you to read more about it at https://bitzino.com/about/fair!
39  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: May 28, 2013, 02:31:00 AM
The site went down for me in the middle of a craps round WHILE the dice were rolling.

Yea, it's down for me too Sad

Sorry for the brief downtime earlier. We are back up and fully operational now. It appears our hosting provider had some minor issues which affected us as well. We always strive for 100% uptime, so we are looking implementing some redundancies in order to avoid this type of unexpected downtime in the future.
40  Economy / Gambling / Re: bitZino - Bitcoin Casino - Now featuring 3 Card Poker! on: May 25, 2013, 09:19:28 AM
I was about to upload a video that i'm not lieing Smiley Happy to help in fiding an issue Smiley And my username is Ignas .

I believed you! As soon as I read your post, I knew it had to be because of the change we made to our assets today. Thanks for helping us catch it early! A 1 BTC comp has been added to your account as our way of saying thanks!
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