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1201  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 10:01:24 PM
you would
1202  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 09:03:31 PM
... doctors struggling to understand the plummeting blood oxygen levels in patients with seemingly functional lungs. It could be attacking the blood cells leading to myriad of complications ...
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-04-11/doctor-gambles-on-clot-busting-drug-to-save-virus-patients

... this isn't over by a long stretch, they don't fully understand how the disease is killing people (the one's without other sicknesses).
This guy has something to say about that.  The virus may be attacking hemoglobin and releasing iron.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200405061401/https://medium.com/@agaiziunas/covid-19-had-us-all-fooled-but-now-we-might-have-finally-found-its-secret-91182386efcb
also
https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID-19_Disease_ORF8_and_Surface_Glycoprotein_Inhibit_Heme_Metabolism_by_Binding_to_Porphyrin/11938173?fbclid=IwAR0Z-25-WXU5ABIHteLkUFheUKiQwOOgjJPUNdq-SWn718V7AUZopTzatHI

uhhhhhh


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54203205#msg54203205
1203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 08:21:03 PM
all power to the State
1204  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 08:06:08 PM
we are in a different situation than before.

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1205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 07:27:30 PM
The only positive note I can offer is that US cash stands up admirably to vigorous washing.

I like to iron the living fuck out of it afterward, just to be sure.
1206  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 07:19:10 PM

16. drinking alcohol every day is must

recent events have not been the best for my sobriety
1207  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 05:31:34 PM
fake pump is fake
1208  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 05:08:52 PM
stiflers?
1209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 04:55:06 PM
meh
1210  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 04:09:43 PM
Once again, we lament the universal laziness and buck passing of infantry grunts throughout time.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg50697228#msg50697228
1211  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 04:25:23 AM
Sino-Canadians
1212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2020, 02:01:31 AM
Some feedback on that article:

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Jennifer L Kasten, MD, MSc, MSc

COVID-19 4/8: 1) Debunking the "COVID had us all fooled" hemoglobin theory; 2) British NHS cancels 3.5 million inferior-quality Chinese antibody tests.

Firstly, many have read an alternative physiologic mechanism of the coronavirus which has been circulating. The theory was originally published on Medium by a non-MD, non-physiologist; a self-titled "professional disrupter" called Andrew Gaiziunas (AKA "libertymavenstock"), who predominantly is on the internet as a cryptocurrency enthusiast but who happened to read a single non-peer reviewed journal article about SARS-CoV-2 inhibiting human heme synthesis, an education which he felt was sufficient to permit him to comment.

Let's start with the original paper. It involved computer analysis of the predicted structure of the virus' proteins, in three dimensions. (Computer simulation is a common technique in the field of proteomics). The authors noticed, wow, it looks like the structure of a couple of the surface proteins could "dock" with the heme synthesis mechanism human red blood cells employ. "Could" being the operative word- this has never been observed, as the virus is not found in human blood except rarely in ultra-highly-infected people. The authors quite inappropriately titled their paper "COVID-19 Attacks the 1-Beta Chain..." instead of "A couple of proteins in this virus could theoretically bind with the 1-beta chain.. based on our structural simulation."

So, the Gaiziunas piece started from the assumption that this was scientific fact instead of an extremely theoretical, unproven, unlikely assertion. He was then off to the races. His main premise is that basically COVID-19 isn't a primary respiratory disease, it's a blood disease. It causes organ failure of all organs, not just the lungs, at the same time, and that's what kills people. He asserts they don't have ARDS, but instead red blood cells release maverick, rogue radical oxygen species which causes unmitigated tissue damage.

There is no evidence for any of this, and if anyone took it seriously (treating COVID with blood transfusions instead of respiratory support) it would be extremely dangerous. Let's start: we pathologists can visualize the virus, with our eyes and our light & electron microscopes, infecting the Type 2 pneumocytes of the lungs, along with the cells lining the respiratory tree and associated mucinous glands. We know the virus enters these cells via its spike protein and the ACE receptor. And we also know the virus is generally never found in blood. Unlike the lung cells, we cannot see it in human red blood cells, though we've looked (out of interest in this theory a few people have tried hemoglobin electrophoresis and looked carefully at peripheral smears, and came up with nothing).

We can also see ARDS- there is a specific cascade of visible changes, including the filling of the airspaces with fluid which eventually coalesce into sticky coatings called hyaline membranes. I will attach a nice photo from Xiao et al of the lung pathology in COVID patients to this post, which include virus in the cells. The hyaline membranes coat the gas-exchange part of the lungs, making gas exchange difficult and sending the infected patient teetering off into respiratory failure. That being said- apart from him, there is some interest generated in alternative ventilatory strategies for COVID, because the patients do seem to tolerate hypoxemia (lower blood oxygen saturation) better than other respiratory failure patients, so some critical care doctors are letting them "go lower" to avoid intubation than they would usually be comfortable with.

I want to stress that anyone can come up with a good idea. The fact that Andrew Gaiziunas doesn't have a relevant background doesn't mean that his idea, if reasonable or interesting, shouldn't be considered. But it is rather fun to point out the howlers:

- he describes "high-pressure intubation" instead of mechanical ventilation
- he refers to the malaria parasite as "bacteria"
- he states confidently that ground-glass opacities on CT scan "are always bilateral" [no] in COVID and that this fact is somehow supportive of his theory
- he states the kidneys make erythropoietin which causes an acutely detectable rise in hemoglobin, in a matter of hours (takes weeks
- he states the acute liver damage in multi-system organ failure is due to iron scavenging (takes years)

2) I've written before about poor-quality tests with hasty/improper/skipped validation data and poor cross-reactivity. The damage to the public, if bad tests with lots of false positives due to reacting with "common cold" coronaviruses, is considerable. Britain had made widescale population-level antibody testing a cornerstone of its control & re-entry strategy, but returned the 3.5 million bad tests to China. Matt Hancock, Health Secretary and COVID patient, rightly said "no test is better than a bad test."

too bad, it had the truthiness to it
1213  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Bruno Kucinskas Trilogy - Part I: Phinnaeus Gage on: April 12, 2020, 12:24:13 AM
nutildah, have you compiled the threads for the other two accounts yet?
1214  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Plead] Phinnaeus Gage's User Moniker Manifested Due to a Malignant Brain Tumor on: April 12, 2020, 12:19:08 AM
In a space with precious few truly good actors, the loss of one is that much more painful.

Bruno brought an integrity and passion to these pages rarely equaled.

godspeed
1215  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2020, 11:35:09 PM
the war is coming though
1216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2020, 10:41:34 PM
1217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2020, 07:00:01 PM
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1218  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2020, 04:09:20 PM
goddammit
1219  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2020, 02:20:45 AM
Well, I'm going to shut up about it as I am clearly in the minority.

But I am pretty disappointed, people talk a hell of a line about libertarianism and self reliance until the free shit shows up.
1220  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2020, 01:39:09 AM
Guys, I bought a nice domain name a few months back related to bitcoin; it's still sitting in the dust. I wanted your suggestions about what to do with it. I've got some free time these days and thought of building a little bitcoin-related thing on it; something small like that "BRRRRR" page. It can also be related to Bitcointalk.

The best suggestion, that I'll be considering for development and implementation, will get straight 20 Merits from me. Wink

Realtime quote tracker with a chart showing bitstamp price at each time the word "Coronavirus" is mentioned, coplotted with volume data for the number of mentions of #nohomo in between the time stamps. Background is a snowfall of xhomer's hats.

motherfucker...

way to open strong man
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