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61  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 13, 2012, 01:11:17 AM
Payments sent out for today.  More to follow tomorrow.
62  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 13, 2012, 12:40:11 AM
I am still waiting on my "1.25% INSURED" deposit as well. The website says it was paid... but it was not.  Cry

BTCS were sent to this address you had on file.  1HVzqi5ERyr6rXVsYoVqGDxTgWqEQ43m11.
63  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: For all of those that got scammed, we need to team up on: September 12, 2012, 04:15:37 AM
A lot of people got scammed a lot of coins.
We (those that got scammed) need to team up and find out as much info about each depositor as early as possible.
If you would like to join me in investigating, please post in this thread.
Any information that you know about each depositor would be of great use.
Right now, I am most interested in these names, as they defaulted a lot of coins to a lot of users:
1. Pirateat40
2. Hashking
3. imsaguy

It is time to work together guys, scamming people 500k, 200k, 100k etc coins are a LOT of money.
Pool our resources together, and we can definitely find track these guys down.

Moderators, I think it is fair that we ask for the IP address of each of these users to become public records.

You should add a guy named lester to the list.
64  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer - HashKing on: September 12, 2012, 02:01:50 AM
Also, we need to evaluate this statement:
You say these 1% and 1.25% deposits are insured. Who is insuring them? Do you have a link to where this is explained somewhere? Thanks.

These deposits are guaranteed by me.  Which means no one will lose any money if I make any bad investments.
Again, this brings up the issue of time. However, he was never specific about what he meant by "me". You could argue that he guaranteed the program with his personal assets. Should hashking be required to liquidate all assets that can be forcefully liquidated by law?

Or I was guaranteed by Pirate to return my funds back to me.

EDIT: Another batch of payments went out.
65  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 12, 2012, 01:51:16 AM
Payments just sent out.
66  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 11, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
I will be sending another payment out tonight.  That is all you will hear from me today.
67  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 11, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
I don't wish to go this route (I really don't).

But as you bring it up: Did you register a business? If not I think the court (if they regard evidence sufficient) will hold you personally responsible. Of course you can declare a bankrupt (well actually I think you need one of your debtors to do it for you) but that will just result in all your holdings being seized, liquidated and the proceeds used to make whole who you are in debt to.

Good Luck.
68  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer - HashKing on: September 11, 2012, 08:28:53 PM
This conditions were in effect as long as the business was viable.  This business has closed its doors and is trying to make good as best it can.
Right, so you are *not* going to honor the insurance. That was my point. I'm glad we agree.

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If you guys keep acting like this I will just walk away.
That's childish and dishonest.

I told everyone I was working on trying to get everyone paid out.  Your fucking attitude is childish.  You keep attacking me over and over again with the same thing.
 
69  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 11, 2012, 08:27:27 PM
I wouldn't sell any of my personal assets to cover any bitcoin losses.  This is a business, it has failed.  When businesses fail they shut down and usually nobody gets anything.
Umm, no. That's not true. Declaring your business a failure doesn't absolve you of your debts. You are your business. Your business is you.

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I will continue to make payments from my bitcoin production and buy coins whenever I can.  If people continue at act they way they are acting I will just walk away.  
Threatening to renege on a legitimate debt to obtain a business concession is scamming.


Well then sue me.  Lets see what a court will say about bitcoin.  I will just file for a bk and I'm done.
70  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer - HashKing on: September 11, 2012, 08:26:20 PM
No. It said insured according to the conditions stated in the thread. So a 24 hour withdrawal period. That is the condition I agreed to.

You cannot keep the 24-hour time frame but you have the moral obligation to be as close to it as possible.

This conditions were in effect as long as the business was viable.  This business has closed its doors and is trying to make good as best it can.  If you guys keep acting like this I will just walk away. 
71  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 11, 2012, 08:22:23 PM
I wouldn't sell any of my personal assets to cover any bitcoin losses.  This is a business, it has failed.  When businesses fail they shut down and usually nobody gets anything.   I will continue to make payments from my bitcoin production and buy coins whenever I can.  If people continue at act they way they are acting I will just walk away.  
72  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer - HashKing on: September 11, 2012, 08:16:01 PM
Did the investors of the 3.3% option get their 50% back yet? That should have been paid out, since the insurance amount was supposed to be sitting in an address waiting for a Pirate default.

There's no problem with the direct passthrough.

For the sub-3.3% accounts, I'm feeling the same way as BadBear...
The insurance is iffy, because the terms of insurance were never clearly stated, if it was backed by mining then it's natural it will take a while, if people weren't happy with that they should have pushed for more clear terms/timeline of repayment of insured funds.

Maybe 3 years is too unreasonable for a "guaranteed" deposit account, though? I'm not sure. Is there any legal precedent for this kind of thing?

I really didn't state a time frame the insurance or guaranteed part would be returned by.  I can take 10 years if I wanted.  Everyone who invested were ok with the terms as they were. 
73  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer - HashKing on: September 11, 2012, 05:33:03 PM
Hashking is a scammer +1

Micon is a horrible poker player +1.
74  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer - HashKing on: September 11, 2012, 05:17:49 PM
The 50% insured was for my 3.3% weekly program.  I had very few signup for that.  The 6.91% program was direct Pirate exposure.  Anything less then the 3.3% was insured and that is what I'm working on paying off. 
75  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Starfish BCB - Loans and Deposits on: September 11, 2012, 04:53:06 PM
I have 100% faith in Mr. Starr

I have 100% faith that OP is a scammer and is running yet another Ponzi, borrowing an ever increasing about of BTC at extremely high interest rates.

I also wonder what strings Patrick is trying to pull behind the scenes with his wife and other shill-type accounts like this one with 77 posts.  These may even be real people, maybe even real investors in his scam - just blindly throwing support to him, just like BurtW or Payb.tc did for Pirate.

Wash, Rinse, Repeat the Pirate scam. 

Luckily it seems like through the hard work of users like Joel Katz we are slowly but surely killing the culture of HYIP scams on these boards.  A net positive for the entire community in many ways.

Go back to being a horrible poker player.
76  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 11, 2012, 04:16:49 AM
Once I get to the bigger accounts I will change the payout method.

What method will you use with the larger accounts? How long will it take to pay off the smaller ones?

On the bigger ones I will probably take the total of all accounts and split the funds according to the percentage of the balance.  So if there is 10,000 coins and an account has 5000 coins.  That account will receive 50% of the payments.  The how long question I won't really be able to answer.  I'm doing my best to resolve this.


Understood. Please keep us updated. Maybe you can post the next payout date whenever you do a payout.

They will be done daily. 
77  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 11, 2012, 04:08:31 AM
Once I get to the bigger accounts I will change the payout method.

What method will you use with the larger accounts? How long will it take to pay off the smaller ones?

On the bigger ones I will probably take the total of all accounts and split the funds according to the percentage of the balance.  So if there is 10,000 coins and an account has 5000 coins.  That account will receive 50% of the payments.  The how long question I won't really be able to answer.  I'm doing my best to resolve this.
78  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 11, 2012, 03:43:32 AM
NEWS FLASH:  I didn't expect anything more from someone who blatantly lies to his depositors and steals their interest. 

I am done.  Funny a 16 year old kid was able to pay his debts in full, paying all creditors equally, and making them whole.   You are in a hole and still digging. 

Some people are just garbage and always will be.

I'm only 15 so that is the reason he probably has more sense then me. 
79  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 11, 2012, 03:40:28 AM
Just sent out a bunch of prinicipal payments.  

Youre doing it wrong.

Why am I doing it wrong?  Why is your way right?

Its not his way it is the universally accepted legal and right way.
Say you only pay back 1,000 BTC and then git hit by a bus and die.
So the creditors who were luck enough to be at the begining on the list get paid in full while other creditors get stiffed - nothing.
If you were at the end of the list would that seem fair and equitable to you?

Unless you designated some creditors "senior" and gave them seniority in any insolvency situation all your creditors are EQUAL and should be repaid EQUALLY.

NEWS FLASH:  YOU ARE AN INSOLVENT DEBTOR.  How you want to do things is irrelevant.  YOU OWE CREDITORS AND ARE IN DEFAULT OF YOUR CONTRACT.
If you have any integrity or decency you would be looking to resolve your debts in an equitable manner.

Obviously given your propensity to blatantly lie to your depositors it isn't all that surprising ...

I have alot of accounts under 10 bitcoins and it doesn't make sense for me to spread payments over these small accounts.  It's better that they are paid off.  Once I get to the bigger accounts I will change the payout method.  NEWS FLASH:  This is the way I'm going to do it.  
80  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19 on: September 11, 2012, 03:30:53 AM
Just sent out a bunch of prinicipal payments.   

Youre doing it wrong.

Why am I doing it wrong?  Why is your way right?
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