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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum to moon(400) during BTC update on Aug 1 on: July 26, 2017, 10:12:46 AM
If Bitcoin goes down, then Ethereum will go down harder. As we have seen lately.

If ethereum price drops one more time, so many gpu miners will give up and there ll be so many second hand gpus in markets  Grin
Haha, and this is best time for user interesting mining going to buy with cheap price Roll Eyes.
582  Economy / Speculation / Re: Taking a loan to buy bitcoin on: July 26, 2017, 10:10:54 AM
I'm thinking of getting a loan to buy more bitcoin, as I'm guessing we'll reach $10K in a few months it can be a good deal to lend at a bank against 5% anual rate

Did anyone do this before? Would like some experience advice
If you have your own money,then there would be no problem in buying bitcoins expecting high prices.Even if it don't rise,there would be no problem.But if you are going to buy bitcoins with a loan,then its not a good idea.Thats highly risky.So just avoid taking loans.
Well, in past time I tried take loans and margin trading, but after one day the price this coin breakdown -25% and I not have stop loss. I had to wait two months for wait recovery price this coin but it still down down and down more until today. Although I had take a big loss but the fee for this loan is $1000 and make me can't forget forverer Undecided
583  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: $10 000 to invest, but at which price to buy? on: July 26, 2017, 10:07:28 AM
If it is for long term investment, i will buy at the market price after 1 Aug. If it is for the short term, i will monitor the market and buy at below $1700.

Bitcoin under $1700 in current very difficult, because only when SegWit2x failure active, this happen will become true. But the schedule of SegWit2x has complete all and not have problem in this time. Only some people still want buy Bitcoin with cheap price before after August 1st the price of Bitcoin go to the moon. This is my opinion.
584  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Before August 1, and after August 1. on: July 26, 2017, 09:59:06 AM
I can't predict 100% the future I think is right, but next time I believe Bitcoin have some crashing make the price of Bitcoin testing again support line $2300. Maybe, this is the happen correction price on market. But the whales take advantage of that fake some bad news as BTC-e got hacked loss many Bitcoin, Bitcoin will HardFork and split chain network to more type ... for create panic seller on market as yesterday. So, if support $2300 breakdown, next lowest price will under $2000 is possible.
585  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: July 26, 2017, 09:51:27 AM

Aside from being patience in trading , I think the other quickest way to make a lot of money is Betting, which is something that we know a lot about. It's a completely legal, it's tax free, and if you follow the instructions, it's guaranteed to make you money, but be careful and limit yourself on betting.

Betting is gambling. It's a totally different thing from trading and may even not be acceptable for some because of beliefs and moral linings. Betting is taking chances and not same as investing in anything.
The different between trading and gambling just use our brain when investing. When you trading if not calculator or have a target + stop loss clearly, just use emontion and lucky for create order, in this time you are gambling, not is trading because you invest money to a ways high risk, nothing guaranteed.
586  Economy / Speculation / Re: Taking a loan to buy bitcoin on: July 25, 2017, 05:40:40 AM
I'm thinking of getting a loan to buy more bitcoin, as I'm guessing we'll reach $10K in a few months it can be a good deal to lend at a bank against 5% anual rate

Did anyone do this before? Would like some experience advice
Forget about it, you are asking for trouble, you may get lucky and make a ton of money or you could lose and get the biggest regret of your life.
I specifically went to banks and their credit, to earn without resorting to such services. That's why Bitcoin gives me this opportunity. And I see that people are still trying to continue to take loans and be in debt with banks.
Haha, not only take a loan to buy Bitcoin, some people after take a loan from bank, they still continue margin trading for Long or Short altcoin. I don't know the reason make them want earning money fast and become rich overnight, but do that very risk and their economic always threatened!
587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: It's time to buy TIME on: July 25, 2017, 05:38:02 AM
I am not sure...
I invested it in ico time. I could get my investment back luckily because i could make a few trades like buy around 0.006 and sell around 0.008. Ico price was 0.01.
It seems still something is wrong because it is listed in a major exchange but price is not increasing...
When you invest to buying an altcoin from ICOs project in lowest price, maybe under the price if compare with price crowdsales as Monaco, you need wait 1-3 months or more than for the price this altcoin recovery. But if this project bad and not really, just want scam user, they will get delist from Bittrex after listed few months ago =)). So, trading as you will best choice for this type
588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Choose altcoin for trading on: July 25, 2017, 05:30:42 AM
Yes better to choose altcoins for trading because you can choose which coin you can buy or sell. And altcoins are easy to get profit especially if you know how to short trade. I've been trading altcoins since 2015 i do only short trade.
What strategy do you use, Fudmental or technical analysis..? Maybe you can share knowledge about how you are trading..


both strategy fundamental and technical analysis is helpful for us to analysis and with botch strategy, we can know almost 85% the coins movement. as long as we want to learn about how to use the analysis, we can mastered it and we can easy to use the strategy. no matter if we are only mastered 1 strategy because we can do many thing to analysis the coins.
This is only true if the coin has enough volume if it does not then it is useless to use those tools to try to predict the market since there are pump and dump groups that could very easily change the dynamic of the trade taking place in a coin in a matter of days.
Although technical analysic just have nature average predictive price, but when you use it still know the picture on crypto market.
Example: With an altcoin pumped by some group, you can know this is waves 1 (elliot) or waves 2 and can countinue pump or not!
589  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin cannot replace currency in the world because price is not stable on: July 25, 2017, 05:27:10 AM
Regarding the claim that bitcoin can not replace the currency due to the fact that its price is not stable, such a statement is not true in principle. Bitcoin can become one of the most expensive currencies in the world, but can not replace them completely because it acts as a digital high-tech currency. There are areas of the market where bitcoin ай not applicable by its nature and instability here plays no role.

bitcoin will not replace fiat money, it will just serve as an alternative way to pay for online transactions that accept both fiat and Bitcoin. Bitcoin has also more cool features that holder of it can capitalize like investing on it, trading, gambling, and the like all in anonymity and doesn't require identification process which takes a lot of time to comply.

and it can be a better alternative since it gives us convenient in earning and making transactions. It can be a good help in savings for we can earn even by holding it for long time

Not to mention that there is no hustle in providing some identifications and verifications - meaning, we can do things and get things we want in an instant. Two good examples are online gambling and trading online that accepts bitcoin. You can literally gamble at this very moment when you have some bitcoins on hand.
In past time, when reporters asked Warren Buffett, he had said Bitcoin can't become to a hidden gem or currency on the world's, it just a tool for helps transfer money between country to country, people to people ... to easy more.
590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEVERDIE- Get ready to live forever- ICO Live now! on: July 25, 2017, 05:18:11 AM
why the amount raised does not change?? it's the same nmber since the first time i visited the website i don't remember exactly when but im sure it's more than a week (11,920 RAISED TO DATE) so how we can track ICO ?
Have 2 option you can use for track amount ETH Raised in Neverdie ICOs:

1. Going to homepage NEVERDIE ICO: https://neverdie.com/
+ Rolldown and you can see amount ETH Raised as this image



2. Track total incoming with eth address use for ICO, you can going to etherscan.io or other ether blockchain can check funds address:
Example: https://etherscan.io/address/0x21f303eb9356cdd9c16232b3a1f0735eccf0dbba

List address for track:
0x21f303eb9356cdd9c16232b3a1f0735eccf0dbba
0xa172b914a8f0a7c28439e09eb6ec5f3d18d0f67d
0xA06C88b8a2a140a48da3a130A0B07A2c77c7bD9a
0xbbB1EFdEB37cD33B899E6efBc1135722DE89264f
591  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin currently massively undervalued? on: July 24, 2017, 05:32:32 AM
Maybe in 10 years people will say ' I wish I invested in bitcoin back in 2017' Tongue

Absolutely those people will be wanting bitcoin investments and they'll regret the neglections of opportunities that they had from previous 10 years passed. Some hated bitcoins because they thought in a wrong perceptions that it's a scam,  but to think it in reality and as you observe the actual drive of digital currency to the society has walked through profitable investments nowadays.
Depending the time you starting invest, as when you choose 2015 is base long term, you will have safe point and not need fearing the price of Bitcoin decreasing. But if you choose the price in current is base to long term, your mentality will always fearing by Segwit2x! Smiley
592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DGB is back, be ready for that ride on: July 24, 2017, 05:28:27 AM
Well, Digibyte is an altcoin have promising project about become to digital cash for gamer and streamer, maybe can use as prize for winner some esports. Potential of Digibyte very well, I guess in future Digibyte can reach $1 target.
593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Ethereum best for investment? on: July 24, 2017, 05:25:49 AM
Buy the rumors and sell the news, in recently have some bad news about Ethereum loss many more from ICOs project by hacker attack, and this is rumors make we are need invest to buying Ethereum at now. This is my opinion!
594  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's have a serious talk about high risks. on: July 24, 2017, 05:22:49 AM
People are making the assumption that a speculation money makes investing more risky. I would say that the contrary is true. Speculative money are buying when its low and selling when its high making the price more stable. What is making the price fluctuate is not the fault of the speculative money, but the get rich quick scheme money. Such a get rich quick scheme money get either discouraged if a price is stable, or it became panicky if the price is going down.

On the current stage of being, I would say that speculative money is too concentrated in few hands, and there are too many get rich quick Joes, thats why the price is so unstable.


In recently, I know a huge number investor from other market and make money online joined crypto market and become to "trader". But most "trader" are the type speculator and they not have experience or knowlegde about cryptocurrency. So, when use emotion to trading, they become to subjects helps whale and big boy control the price on market.
595  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I cash out my BTC now? on: July 24, 2017, 05:14:35 AM
I think if it does not have an important situation then it should not sell btc for now because maybe after this then this bitcoin price will be higher than current price.
This is good choice when you not need money at now or fearing SegWit2x failure can make the price of Bitcoin breakdown in short time, but with people investing long term about 1-5 years, the price of Bitcoin in current still cheap and not have reason why not choose buy and hold. But I recommend should not invest buy now, because we need wait after August 1st, what would Bitcoin be like?
596  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the moon!!! on: July 24, 2017, 05:09:38 AM
Yes  Bitcoin in the moon!!! I will said the moon is still in the future..So if you are on the right side you earn some real quick profits than otherwise. Hope you can still buy now and sell later when price rise further in coming time.

Buy now is bad idea, we not know after BIP91 lock-in Bitcoin system will have bug or not? Or when nearest deathline SegWit2x as July 30-31 will have some news talking about SegWit2x in August 1st will have split chain Bitcoin network because other pool still want UAHF BIP148 ... And you know if my guess is right, the price of Bitcoin can reduce by half the current price!
597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEVERDIE- Get ready to live forever- ICO Live now! on: July 24, 2017, 05:01:27 AM
Hallo sir sylon. After we register in bounty signature, whether to list the spreasheet is not automatically master? If it does not automatically mean we are waiting in the accept first yes?
thank you. good luck
If you satisfying conditions Sylon write on thread bounty, after post comment register join this campaign, you can starting work and not need waiting accept from Sylon.

This is some rules about member join this campaign:

1. Participants in this campaign have to be at least a Member to wear our signature.
2. Participants with red trust score will not be accepted.
3. Multiple accounts are not allowed and will result in banning you from our campaign.
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEVERDIE- Get ready to live forever- ICO Live now! on: July 24, 2017, 04:57:24 AM
dev what I should do after sign up on Neverdie platform, I don't see a place to log in.

I have a question about buying token on Neverdie Alpha dashboard, how to deposit my ETH and buy Neverdie coins? I I have found in 30 minutes but not see any place can deposit for buy token, anyone in this thread can helps me?

The Alpha Wallet gives you full send/receive control of your NEVERDIE coins through MetaMask, Parity & the Mist Browser. You must be logged in to one of those to use it. Alternatively, you can use the second option and send directly to the address of the coin you wish to purchase. It's listed on the website. Remember, do not send from a wallet that does not have ERC20 support, and do not send from an exchange address.

Thanks your answer, but can I using MEW (Myetherwallet) for buying neverdie token? I know MEW have support ERC20 and I usually use it for buying other ICOs crowdsales project, but I don't know Neverdie coins can support this wallet or not?
599  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin Reach $3,000 Next Week? on: July 23, 2017, 05:19:46 PM
Bitcoin reach $3000 in next week is really can do. I testing the price of Bitcoin in today with the news Bittrex frozen their wallet Bitcoin, in first time after this notification spread, the price of Bitcoin has falldown to $26xx but recovery very fast to $2800 again just in 2 hours Shocked. We can see the support range $2600 in present very strong with good news like past days
600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEVERDIE- Get ready to live forever- ICO Live now! on: July 23, 2017, 05:12:52 PM
I have a question about buying token on Neverdie Alpha dashboard, how to deposit my ETH and buy Neverdie coins? I was trying to find in 30 minutes but not see any place can deposit for buy token, anyone in this thread can helps me?
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