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501  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin rate on: August 10, 2017, 04:46:39 AM
If i have the money why not! I will buy because anybody who expect bitcoin to decline below  $3000 such a person is waiting his or her time. The same thing was said when bitcoin value was around  $1500 that is too high to buy at that rate for there is need to for dump but it never came. Am pretty sure that same will happen here.
It will likely take a long time when you expect bitcoin prices to decline. The current bitcoin price continues to rise and shows a very positive improvement graph. So I think buying bitcoin now is not a mistake, you can still sell it for a high price. Wait a few days ahead and you have a profit.
I just need Bitcoin can create strong support line at $3000 after breakout in this week, of course maybe I will miss opportunity buy Bitcoin with cheap price if next week Bitcoin continue breakout $4000. But I always choose safe point before starting trade.
502  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 09, 2017, 06:29:16 PM
It is better to invest than to save, because when you invest your money will grow even if you are not doing anything as compared to saving, your money is just stagnant and the interest rate is very low if you just put it in the bank. Just think of it that way. There is a risk in investing, but for me there is more opportunity to earn in investing. Invest a portion then save the rest if you want be on the safe side.
Both are never, you cannot save if you do not have the will to use your savings into something that will help you achieve financial success.
We all wan to have financial freedom where we can do anything we want that requires money but's it's not possible if we will not gonna take some
risk to invest.
to me i think if a person have a lot of money then he can go with both. it is in fact depending on the amount of money you have. to me my personal view is that trading alcoin will be the best option if a person want to make good money, in fact trading is the best option for making more money.
Altcoin or Bitcoin are good, depending the trend on market when you trading. Example: The market Bitcoin in today and in past days have many volatility, it good for scalping trade and earning good profit in short time.
503  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Better investement right now, bitcoins or Altcoins. on: August 09, 2017, 06:27:06 PM
Bitcoin for sure. Have you seen it's surging in value again, even after those landmark events? For me it is a true sign of the market getting more mature and reliable.
This signal is gone, when the price of Bitcoin stable around $2700 - $2500, this is best time for investing to Bitcoin, so in current just is FOMO on market and can drop down any time.
504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BCH just become a joke sell your BCH before too late. on: August 09, 2017, 06:25:25 PM
I wouod have sold at the start when the price was decent but I wasn't prepared to split my coins so think I will just hold for the future.
Holding on what you believe in somehow will give earn profit in the future. But for now, I dont have BCH as I beleive it will dump though we can't really predict what the price may come. So lets just observe the bch for the meantime.
BCH can't continue dump more. You can see after breakdown to 0.06 in past days, the price of Bitcoin Cash stable at this price and recovery to 0.1 BTC very fast. So I think BCH will be creating strong support line at 0.1 BTC if continue increasing in next time.
505  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stop profit on: August 09, 2017, 06:23:44 PM
Hmm wondering if we are just in a great week following fork/scaling decision or if this is the start of another weeks-long bull run like we had from late April to early/mid June. If it is another full scale bull run this thing could hit $5k by the end of September. time will tell!
Time will tell, and any of our predictions are subjective, so never make a claim about the value of bitcoin, a strong bull that is moving forward.
Or trap bull will be comeback any time Roll Eyes. For me the price of Bitcoin in today very good for take profit, because not need spend more time for believe the future Bitcoin while many altcoin on market still very cheap.
506  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: August 09, 2017, 06:04:28 PM
as a newbie .. i dont know what is good on trading or investing .. because i dont have enough money to trade or invest .. if the time comes that i have enough money to trade and invest .. this is the time that i decide which one is good .. thankyou

Right. Take time to study the market first. Though i don't think there will be any conflict with your choice between these two as they're almost similar to each other by definition. But whichever suits you, both would be beneficial for your money so good luck
In currently, when you still have many free time, take advantage this time for learning and find some job working in Bitcoin for helps you have more knowledge about the market and cryptocurency. Even can helps you earning some money for try trading & investment in future.
507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Spectiv: DECENTRALIZED VIRTUAL REALITY | ATTENTION MARKETS TOKEN 🎥 on: August 09, 2017, 05:55:05 PM
Lol, lowering back from 4% to 3%, pretty unprofessional..

If you read the bounty announcement post, we are shortening the length of the bounty campaign by pausing it. So, we have changed the % in accordance with the fact that the bounty will be paused for the next 2 months. At 3% of our token supply being dedicated to the bounty, we are still one of the highest paying bounty campaigns. We care about our bounty participants being rewarded fairly, and it was not fair to make them go through a 24 week bounty campaign. This is ultimately why it was paused. As noted though, all work that has done so far will be counted.
According to my calculations, spectiv provides the greatest payout among ICOs running today. This is very interesting, meaning in the second chance I can join the signature campaign
No, ShadowToken ICO spend 5% total token sold out for bounty campaign - 85% of it for signature campaign, however the value of this token very small, just 0.05$ per token. So if in current I can't say total reward of Spectiv can better than ShadowToken ICO or not Smiley
508  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: August 08, 2017, 05:25:54 PM
There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?


Yeah man! I remember my noob moments as a trader, there are times when alt-coins dump every time I buy and then pump every time I sell. Luckily I met this guy named Gunthar and purchased gunbot from him. Thank goodness I found a bot which is emotionless  Roll Eyes it buys @low and always sell @high

Lol nice shameless plug. On a side note - do you find it actually works well?
Why not? I used Gunbot and it very good, very useful with me when I want "sleep" but still can trading and make money Tongue. But sometime the market can't use bot trading because the volatility of this time can make the system of bot have some mistaken and take loss.
509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: GAMECREDITS - AUGUST 10th COMMERCIAL LAUNCH + CONFERENCE + BREAKOUT! on: August 08, 2017, 05:22:41 PM
Not have this news I still holding my GameCredit until the price of GAME can reach to $10-$20 per coin. With the potential of GameCredit, my target still very low and it can growth more in next year.
510  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BTC go up or down after segwit lockin ? on: August 08, 2017, 05:21:00 PM
My predict is down until September, if Bitcoin price can down but still high than $3000, I think it just is correction price of Bitcoin and this time very good for buy more. And this happens will helps the price of altcoin can recovery in short time and make the market bustling back Grin
511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Problem with ICO on: August 08, 2017, 05:18:05 PM
Immediate dump of tokens post ICO is really the issue faced by every project here. I think only way to remove this dumping is by offering bounty in BTC.

So projects need to raise their standards first and offer BTC for bounties.

Offering bounty in BTC should be a rule of thumb for this forum, projects which don't follow should be removed.
This will ensure higher rewards for bounty hunters and as well as remove the dumping issue for early investors in project. A win win situation I would say Smiley

Future projects might face a further problem if more people think like I do in the meantime. There are 2-3 projects I'm interested in but I won't invest during their ICOs, but wait until coins can be bought much cheaper. I agree, projects should rise their standard and do sth against dumping, otherwise some projects might not get enough investors in their ICO phase.

Yeah, dumping is predictable for ICOs which are not backed up by anything and coins are much cheaper on exchanges after completion.
Well, in recently most ICO are dumped to lowest price after listed exchange, some example I know in few months ago until today: Monaco breakdown change -50% the price ICO still in low price in today and can't recovery; Bitquence breakdown to @300 sat for each (@3000 sat is the price ICO), however it recovery very fast and pump x2 the price ICO ...
So I think buying token ICO before listed exchange in current worse than buy token after listed exchange and dumped Grin
512  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: August 08, 2017, 05:12:40 PM
I believe that bitcoin can not globally lower the unemployment rate because it needs to be bought or earned, and for this you need internet and computer skills that you can not afford in poor countries.

Exactly your argument and I agree on this, indeed if you want to get the bitcoin we have to work hard as work in offline need creativity and competition is now increasingly tight

Here in cryptocurrency world we need to work hard and work smart for us to become rich. I can't say that the bitcoin is easy money. We need to study and focus to the cryptocurrency for us to have a lot of knowledge and eventually earn big amount of money.
I guess we just have to emphasize that we should be working smartly, bitcoin is an opportunity that we found and we are lucky to be part of this wonderful and revolutionary project that will surely attract more people to the adopt in the future. Working smart means we are seeing this opportunity to invest, with that let us make our money work for us towards financial success in the future.
Working smartly and take advantage the price of Bitcoin still cheap, holding for the future our life. This is the way I choose and improve every day, Bitcoin at now as hidden gem and the potential of Bitcoin very large, maybe better than Gold in 2000 - 2007 in history.
513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TOKEN-SALE-08-AUGUST] INDORSE - Decentralized Professional Network on: August 08, 2017, 05:08:34 PM
What if hardcap will not achieve these goals? I mean 50k eth... then what?
Hardcap just is limit for end ICO crowdsale before the time scheduled. If the raised funds can't reach hardcap, this crowdsale will running until end time crowdsale or reached this cap.
514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [Bounty] InvestFeed #1 Cryptocurrency Incentivized Social Network - Bounty on: August 08, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
Hey all, any information about bounty distributions?
Still we have not got any response from campaign manager about bounty distribution. I think we will get good news about bounties distribution soon. as pre campaign manager said that bounty distribution will start after ico end from 2 weeks.
As per my know about campaign Jamal is manager, the distribute for bounty hunter usually after 2 weeks - one month. You can see some project in recently complete are distribute after 3 weeks: Monaco, Bitquence, InsureX.
515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: If you have $10 to invest? on: August 06, 2017, 05:16:08 AM
to me it does make sense to invest litlle money to see how you manage it, you will learn the risk behind your choice and you will not be burned like some people who start to invest every single money of their account and then lose everything in 2 months

10$ of investment would not really make sense if we want to get some profits on our investments since if we put some little money on certain sites there we can expect that we can gain a little also but if we can gamble that little money on tradings in gamblings well maybe we can get some chance to make it grow more bigger since their are certain jackpot situation will hit on gambling aswell on tradings where we can earn huge on big pumps.
Why would not really make sense? I have a friend become to millionaire just from invest to HYIP site and after one year working hard for marketing, he has get rich from it + trading. So, don't think $10 is small amount for investment, I'm aslo from zero before have stable income as today.
516  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the moon!!! on: August 06, 2017, 05:13:17 AM
It isn't just now $2750 but it is now $3100. It broke the $3000 range. And probably it will go somewhat at $3500. Maybe that could be the next range of bitcoin. Is anybody here knows about ath? Bitcoin ATH? I'm hearing about that thing all over and over again but I do not understand what it meant.
the price of bitcoin cross 3300$ and still proceeding so there is no doubt that bitcoin is now skyrocket and still going to increase more.

Well that's an exciting development for us. Hopefully it gets steady at above 3k for a while, much like when it went steady at 2.5k range. I think we're well on our way up now that the aug1 debacle is over so its only going to be better from here

Actually, Bitcoin has keep the price $2500 very good, although have some flash crashing when keep this price, but it recovery just in few hours and stand still this price. With the potential of Bitcoin, the target $10.000/BTC in future is possible.
517  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Ethereum best for investment? on: August 06, 2017, 05:08:23 AM
yea ethereum is best for invest. now eth is something down and it price regularly increase. i think at a time its price jumping and over them bitcoin. so i tell eth best for invest.
Yes except price of ethereum has high fluctuating ( the price is always going up and going down,
it is good for makes short time investment with trading) ethereum also can be used for payment method on ICOs projects,
 investing in the ICOs will gives us chance to getting profit with small amount of money in ethereum, the strategy is after get the profit from trading ethereum, the profit can be invested in ICOs.
Not only Ethereum have more volatility on market, but can't negative the volume of Ethereum on altcoin market in current is top 1. However still have some altcoin have volatility better than Ethereum as LBC, NXT, they are altcoin change 50% in one day Grin.
518  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Spectiv: DECENTRALIZED VIRTUAL REALITY | ATTENTION MARKETS TOKEN 🎥 on: August 06, 2017, 05:00:55 AM
We have a major announcement coming either Sunday or Monday, so stay tuned for that!
Yay, this is the information I waiting from Spectiv! Is the announcement about time open ICO in September? I know Spectiv have some post talking about time ICO delay to September but I don't know clearly time until now, I hope next announcement will have it.
519  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoin penetrate the price of 3500 USD at the end of 2017 this? on: August 05, 2017, 11:36:05 AM
With the rise in bitcoin prices now when I made this topic has reached the price of 2769 USD, my hope can be translucent 3500 USD until the end of the year.

How do you respond about it, can or not bitcoin will reach that price?


Certainly seems like a possibility, I would reckon Bitcoin will reach as high as 3K by the end of this month. The community behind bitcoin is super strong and after the hard fork, Bitcoin is already at 2,876 USD. Maybe we will reach 3k by the end of this week.

I can see a future where bitcoin is at 3.5K, and by the end of this year seems feasible.
That's right mate its still showing good and strong movements and as far as we believe bitcoin will bring us more bacon whatever things concerned about its value it will bounce back and it will go even stronger. Keep holding just trust the system.

I can't understand what is the think of whales and big boy on market! But I'm checking again in recently, the market always doing the opposite our hope our predict about a trend in short time, example Bitcoin Cash is the proof very clearly and nearest.
520  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the moon!!! on: August 05, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Wow from 1,780$ now bitcoins is on the way in 3000$ .  Now people selling btc in a cheaper price regrets. They don't know this is the part of trading pump and dump. I think there's a responseble for the dumping of price controling the BTC Price drop in they link August 1 Disaster to forced some BTC holders to sell bitcoins now people sell in a low price start buying back again in the high prices so bitcoins start to get a high volume.  Anyway Congrats to all knowledgeable people for not selling btc even in the panic moment.  And now this is your reward. 3000$ per 1 BTC.
It is a good thing for both the developers of Bitcoin and also the users because it may be a good investment and it may result for a huge profit for traders in the future. And the splitting as a first thing to happen in Bitcoin it is a good thing because it result to development on the price and the transaction of Bitcoin. So whenever the changes happened to Bitcoin people may look at as a good development and a good thing in the part of price , transaction and security.
Depending the project development and improve Bitcoin, example in past time have many Hard Fork in Bitcoin system, but still can't do that and final just is Soft Fork and new Bitcoin created from this fork, so on market we have many name Bitcoin after Bitcoin original as BitcoinPlus, BitcoinDark, Bitcoin Unlimit, Bitcoin Cash ...
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