He has already all the info needed to pay his investors. If the lists are incomplete, he can start paying who is already in the list. There is no freaking need of any invented legal bullshit.
OK, I'll accept that you are of the point of view that now that the lists are released, those addresses should be paid without any further verification. I accept that as a valid argument. I also accept gigavps' argument that if he doesn't do further verification of these lists, he opens himself to a mess if nefario is proven to have lied about the info in the future. I think you both have good-faith arguments there. I just want to point out that without the "invented legal bullshit", specifically without the pressure gigavps' lawyer put on nefario to release lists that nefario must have had no intention of ever releasing, based on his actions up to the escalation of the legal pressure, there would be no lists, and no addresses to repay. So I accept that some people will consider gigavps a scammer for not paying the lists as given by nefario, but gigavps' work in obtaining these lists in the first place, precludes the possibility of his intentions being to not pay at all. So say he should pay dividends indefinitely without any further info because you think that's the right thing to do, but don't project false intent to scam back to everything he did. |
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Yes, I expect an inflation of scammers tags soon. But spare me your delusions about Giga's integrity. He's openly looking for a way to make as difficult as possible for his investors to get paid.
If that were the case it would have been much easier to do nothing than to hire a lawyer The difference is that he is not anonymous, and that in this way he can steal legally (or quasi-legally). See the light? No. If he had not been the one to legally pressure nefario into providing the lists, it wouldn't have mattered one bit that he is not anonymous, it is impossible to pay people if you don't have those lists. By the way, nefario has admitted the lists are even incomplete. |
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Yes, I expect an inflation of scammers tags soon. But spare me your delusions about Giga's integrity. He's openly looking for a way to make as difficult as possible for his investors to get paid.
If that were the case it would have been much easier to do nothing than to hire a lawyer to express to nefario several times on the record that if he didn't send the lists there would be consequences. If giga wanted to make it difficult for investors to get paid he wouldn't have done this, and it would have been near impossible for investors in any other glbse asset to get paid either. |
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Before giga gets the scammer tag, you would need to give the scammer tag to every other glbse asset issuer, because they did not fulfill the terms of the contract, where giga went to great expense and put himself at great risk to find a way he could continue to pay people, when the easier way would have been to do nothing just like every other asset issuer has done so far.
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By all operating systems, do you mean Linux, Windows and Mac? yes what about GNU/Hurd and Plan9? |
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If he has the list of shareholders and refuses to pay them back as per the original contract then yes.
It isn't possible to buy out the shareholders per the original contract, because that specified the highest traded price, which doesn't exist, as the basis. Unless you want to take the tiny value based on the mpex price. |
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BCB's doing quite a service to the community here. Why don't you do something productive than just giving snide comments here?
So either making up stories or believing incorrect information that was fed to you is a service to the community? |
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I have far fewer virtual coins than I used to.
Ditto. |
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any plans to include Bitparking pool ?
I like it too ! Will mmpool.bitparking.com add? I'd liove to see bitparking too. |
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This sounds pretty bad.
I wouldn't worry. The tagline on their logo says they are "The Ethical Exchange". |
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Since it seems to have been a ponzi scheme, pirate likely has no money, paid it all out in interest to keep the scam going.
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agents of the state or it's subsidiaries from using bitcoin for their own ends
What ways do you see this type of use occurring? Maybe linking bitcoin addresses and transactions to taxpayers for tax enforcement purposes. |
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What is STG? What does BCB stand for? What does CTG stand for? What about PT?
So you are posting nonsense drivel in the name of helping the people who lost money to pirate is because there is a secret method to your madness and it will help in the end if we just trust you? Why? You don't seem to have any accurate information at all. You're spreading disinformation because "people who know Trendon are reading these threads"? How does that do anything at all? Who are the "we" who will be in touch with poor Charlie? You don't have a "we". It certainly isn't the people who lost money to Trendon cause the ones I know aren't anywhere near as off base as you are. What are you doing anyway? You say you didn't even have any money with him either (which I guess explains why you're so clueless) but what are you trying to do? I'm waiting for you to ask for money or something, its just extremely odd.
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unverified anecdotal evidence suggests Trendon Shavers has secured and is in control of $1M USD in hard assets and is slowing cashing out and additional $500,000 worth of BTC.
I believe the $5M USD figure was based on interest income due on the actual principal investments which we now know never existed.
Thanks, I love "unverified anecdotal evidence". |
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Disclaimer, I am not here to fight about anything, I am not here to tell you what's wrong or what's right or get into any argument. I am done with that. I am here to share what I have been told by Nefario. If you want to listen, listen if not, I won't force you.
This is the situation described to me by Nefario.
Right now about 50% of the double payments has been sent back.
The script for the payout is still broken and James is working to fix it, so that it doesn't send any more double spendings and so that it takes the double spendings into account.
Nefario, is suggesting that if the double spendings are not returned then your account info will not be included in the asset information/list until the payment is sent back.
He could not give me a ETA but it seems like once the script for the payment is fully function, the rest of the payments should follow shortly.
note:(I am not sure of the actual system of asset claim, if it will be a code system similar to the one Goat was given or if it will be a list of information)
I will answer any questions that I feel like and I will ignore the rest.
//DeaDTerra
Is there any ETA on when nefario will have an asset claim system? This is turning out to be worst-case scenario. |
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If he has computer access on that island you know Trendon is checking this thread regularly.
The do have computers on the island of Texas now. |
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Good luck with this (am I too late?)!
No, you are not  I just meant gl with the venture in general. What have you done with the real MPOE-PR? |
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What is Ryan Zhou Tong's real name?
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