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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDGC] GadgetCoin | IoT | M2M |Smart Contracts on Hardware on: November 16, 2015, 12:44:14 PM
The GadgetNet DAC shares has been issued to all VICR accounts.

Instead of the 20% that was discussed earlier we decided to give away 50% shares to our investors. Therefore, the developers own 50% of the total company shares and the VICR investors own the other 50% of the shares.

Total 19,442,000 has been issued. 100 shares has been allocated to each GadgetCoin, so if you have 1,000 GDGC then you should receive 100,000 GadgetNet DAC shares. If you see an incorrect figure please let us know and we will fix the issue, but everything should be correctly in place.

Currently the shares price is 3 US$ cents per share. You will be able to sell the shares when the share sell/buy function is enabled, most likely later this week. We are talking to angel investors and VCs and if you decide to exit your investment then you will be able to sell the shares to a minimum at 3 cents per share price. We are creating a business with a real product for real world clients and we hope the share price of GadgetNet will increase, so please hold on to your shares if you can as we are targeting the 10 cents per share price within the next few months.

You can review your DAC share holdings by log in to your wallet and clicking on the "DAC" menu item under the "Account" menu.

 “You will be able to sell the shares when the share sell/buy function is enabled, most likely later this week  ”
how is this going on?
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDGC] GadgetCoin | IoT | M2M |Smart Contracts on Hardware on: October 29, 2015, 02:26:21 AM

what makes you believe the $5 million realistic? i don't think the $5 million market cap so quickly is a realistic expectation.


I didn't talk about market cap, did I? I couldn't care less what is the market cap valuation of 99.99% of digital currencies which are used by absolutely nobody except the several thousands users of Bitcointalk by selling to each other the things. I am talking about capital investment from a venture capital firm or angel investors. I have been investing via Venture Capital and angel investor firms and funds, and witnessing what kind of shits could exists in a VC's portfolio. The VC investment culture is in the UK is far more conservative than US, still unbelievably shitty technology ideas and absolutely incompetent teams have been securing GBP 5 million investments.

The blockchain is getting a hot topic, the Internet of Things has been a popular investment area for years, the IoT micropayment will sound a very fancy idea for a VC, the IoT driven P2P streaming is a very nicely presentable topic. That's what makes me believe if the product is ready for investment, if the team is serious then GadgetNet will have no problem to secure that $5 million.


I agree with this 100%. The fact that Gadgetnet has such a central spot on W3C's IoT development alone should easily bring in investments of that size if not greater. This would help big time with any team/keeping developers interest problems.

With a nice VC investment they could buy shares and hopefully give the company some funds for salaries etc, which would allow you to work full time. Is anyone working full time at the moment?

I also believe that we should move all discussion off of this forum as there is little to be gained here. Something like slack would allow more detailed updates and discussions.



Yes, we can discuss all details on Slack.
Currently all of us work part time on GadgetCoin. Once we start generating revenue with GadgetNet then we will start working on the project in full time.

there is nobody talk on slack`` Sad   VICRers doesn't use slack?
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDGC] GadgetCoin | IoT | M2M |Smart Contracts on Hardware on: October 28, 2015, 02:26:20 AM
The GadgetNet DAC shares has been issued to all VICR accounts.

Instead of the 20% that was discussed earlier we decided to give away 50% shares to our investors. Therefore, the developers own 50% of the total company shares and the VICR investors own the other 50% of the shares.

Total 19,442,000 has been issued. 100 shares has been allocated to each GadgetCoin, so if you have 1,000 GDGC then you should receive 100,000 GadgetNet DAC shares. If you see an incorrect figure please let us know and we will fix the issue, but everything should be correctly in place.

Currently the shares price is 3 US$ cents per share. You will be able to sell the shares when the share sell/buy function is enabled, most likely later this week. We are talking to angel investors and VCs and if you decide to exit your investment then you will be able to sell the shares to a minimum at 3 cents per share price. We are creating a business with a real product for real world clients and we hope the share price of GadgetNet will increase, so please hold on to your shares if you can as we are targeting the 10 cents per share price within the next few months.

You can review your DAC share holdings by log in to your wallet and clicking on the "DAC" menu item under the "Account" menu.

Wow, thanks!  Cheesy I like the numbers in my wallet  Cheesy  what about the gadgetcoins, can we still sell it?

Nothing has changed. The Internet-of-Things device operators must pay a network fee, the network fee is paid in GadgetCoin, and therefore device operators have to buy coins in order to use the platform.

If GDC sold,than the shares is sold automatic too?  as it says before··
or  the gadgetcoin and share is Separated,each sold has no influences to the other?
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: August 06, 2015, 02:33:00 PM
Innovation is hard but it's valuable.

That's very true.
Apart from Bitcoin, only projects that innovate can and will survive. There are a handful of projects that innovate, one of them Gadgetcoin - that's why I support it in the first place, not to mention that because of the innovation and real world use cases, this is the very few projects that can actually make money in long term. Even I have doubt that Ethereum or NXT will make money in long term, because there is no assurance at all, more precisely it is very unlikely that for example any country will switch its land register to a new technology by using the Ethereum's smart contracts, so I am not sure where the money is going to come from to Ethereum or NXT in the long term. In the meantime, at least Gadgetcoin/Gadgetnet has a realistic chance to make money by addressing real world use cases such as empowering Internet of Things (connected) cameras.






That's very true.   
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 17, 2015, 02:11:26 AM
Bloody hell guys, that's a marvellous news. I always told here that the white paper is a superb material!

What is most important from GadgetNet viewpoint, the relation with W3C could open many doors because those W3C guys work with the CTOs of the word biggest companies.

And the armchair commentators who knows absolutely nothing about software development but doubt your software engineering and business skills can say whatever they want, your white paper which you put in the public domain, the working blockchain, smart contracts in the GDC wallet and the recognition from W3C speak for itself.


This "armchair commentator" who knows little about software development, has only stated the absolute lack of viable business plan in this project. And, before celebrating and "mooning" wants to have proof the basic software actually works. There are over 1,000 working blockchains in crypto. And almost as many white papers of various degrees of "quality" in them. 95% of both are attached to failures and the other 5% have slim to none actual viability. So I keep saying, great if this works and progress is made IF and only IF the p2p works in a significant scale comparable to the commercial competition already established. When and only IF then it works properly, it would be time to list it as an asset; until then, it is just an idea, probably a very good one, but just an idea.

Which, in order to achieve some degree of success, will need of a carefully planned and well executed business plan.

It seems to me there's a very long road ahead before celebrations and "moonings" are called for. I will gladly join in the festivities. Then and there.

 there's a very long road ahead  ,  i agree with you
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 16, 2015, 10:42:39 PM
Update

We really appreciate the complimentary comments regarding our white paper. Whether the comments come from the community or commercial players such as IBM and Samsung, it's a nice feeling when someone says something positive about our white paper. And today our white paper received even more flattering recognition. The W3C organization has invited us to work on the Web of Things initiative and contribute to the work of standardization and IoT device integration with the world wide web. It is really exciting and very much an honour that we will have the opportunity to work with professionals who shaped the world via their researches and contributions in the W3C organization over the last 3 decades.

We will take the concept of blockchain, authentication and access control based on the public private key infrastructure to W3C knowing that the Internet of Things revolution would benefit greatly from the innovation this digital currency community has been working on for years.

We will keep you updated regarding standards and open source releases.  


nice,thank for the update
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 13, 2015, 09:20:32 AM
Can we have staking on the account balance if the VICR contract is paused in case when the contract owner expects a higher price and doesn't want to sell the coins for USD 1? It would be cool to stake at 5-10% interest rate.


The development team has been discussing the staking, but in the context of GadgetNet the staking (POS) is more complicated than for other currencies. Personally, I believe the staking will cause a severe volatility to the price of GadgetCoin.
The broadcasters must buy GDC in order to cash out and if there is limited supply then the price of GDC could jump very high. Let say there is 1,000 GDC demand from broadcasters to pay the network fee but only 100 GDC is available because the rest of coins are staking and paused in the contracts. The limited supply means the price will jump to US$ 10 immediately. Since the price is irrelevant for the broadcasters - as they will pay the 5% of a FIAT amount to cover the network fee and it is indifferent to them on what price they can buy the coin -, the coin owners will be probably very happy with a high price and when the price jump to US$ 10.00 I assume the coin owners would like to sell the coins for that high price to realize a 3,000% ROI on the VICR price. However, once the staked coins entered to this internal market the price will crash to US$ 1.00 again. I am not sure if the coin owners would be happy with such volatility.


limited supply is ok

That's the plan, keep the supply low by forging very limited number of coins as well as burning the them once the network fee paid using the coins.
 

how to run a p2p node to get ores? not a stream server node
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 12, 2015, 11:10:18 PM
Can we have staking on the account balance if the VICR contract is paused in case when the contract owner expects a higher price and doesn't want to sell the coins for USD 1? It would be cool to stake at 5-10% interest rate.


The development team has been discussing the staking, but in the context of GadgetNet the staking (POS) is more complicated than for other currencies. Personally, I believe the staking will cause a severe volatility to the price of GadgetCoin.
The broadcasters must buy GDC in order to cash out and if there is limited supply then the price of GDC could jump very high. Let say there is 1,000 GDC demand from broadcasters to pay the network fee but only 100 GDC is available because the rest of coins are staking and paused in the contracts. The limited supply means the price will jump to US$ 10 immediately. Since the price is irrelevant for the broadcasters - as they will pay the 5% of a FIAT amount to cover the network fee and it is indifferent to them on what price they can buy the coin -, the coin owners will be probably very happy with a high price and when the price jump to US$ 10.00 I assume the coin owners would like to sell the coins for that high price to realize a 3,000% ROI on the VICR price. However, once the staked coins entered to this internal market the price will crash to US$ 1.00 again. I am not sure if the coin owners would be happy with such volatility.


limited supply is ok
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 11, 2015, 02:59:50 PM
I suggest to stop the VICR contracts. Not because I got some and I don't want more coins to be forged :-)))) and I understand the dev boys are desperate to build a supporting user base and community via the VICR, but the Twitter, Facebook, etc. campaign does more harm than good.

We can achieve the goals of the project without the confusing VICR contracts. If and when the project need investment to expand, and  if the development work out according to plans then there won't be an issue to get 50K-100K from angel investors and the bigger money from VCs.


@mtomcdev   if want to stop the VICR sells,please  notify us some days in advance,  Let it us have last Chance to buy the contract.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 10, 2015, 02:53:06 PM
There is a /1eJRGjm]post at our blog site it was submitted yesterday to explain the streemo application.

can't  buy contracts any more?

when i buy the contracts ,it shows "Error  Transaction error. Error code: 4096"

what is the problems?



Please try again, I think it is operational. I am not sure what was the issue, I can't see any errors, but we will investigate it.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

it happened today, i asked another one to try on his pc,and he also have this problems

Thanks for reporting the error. As I said now it works fine, but also I can see the errors from earlier today in the detailed log file, and I can understand you received the 4096 error. We will try to get to the bottom of the problem.
Sorry for the inconveniences.



it is ok now
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 10, 2015, 02:17:09 PM
There is a /1eJRGjm]post at our blog site it was submitted yesterday to explain the streemo application.

can't  buy contracts any more?

when i buy the contracts ,it shows "Error  Transaction error. Error code: 4096"

what is the problems?



Please try again, I think it is operational. I am not sure what was the issue, I can't see any errors, but we will investigate it.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

it happened today, i asked another one to try on his pc,and he also have this problems
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 10, 2015, 01:44:50 PM
There is a /1eJRGjm]post at our blog site it was submitted yesterday to explain the streemo application.

can't  buy contracts any more?

when i buy the contracts ,it shows "Error  Transaction error. Error code: 4096"

what is the problems?



13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 10, 2015, 01:35:50 PM
Could you please post here what is the Chinese QQ group code?



被解散了·
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 08, 2015, 04:21:28 AM
It seems there is a consensus that the discount should be reinstated.

We will enable the discount now. For contracts which volume is at least 100 hours will be an additional 10 ores deposited for each 10 hour unit, that means a 100 hours volume contract will be entitled to 1,000 ores and GDC. Since there are 10 hours VICR contract exists, users who buy at least 10 VICR contracts will be receiving the extra 100 ores deposit. Numerically, that was the previous discount as well.




if i buy 20 10-hours-contracts ,then i will get 2000 ores?
every 100 hours get extra 100 ores?
300 hours  total 3000 ores?
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 08, 2015, 04:10:38 AM
It seems there is a consensus that the discount should be reinstated.

We will enable the discount now. For contracts which volume is at least 100 hours will be an additional 10 ores deposited for each 10 hour unit, that means a 100 hours volume contract will be entitled to 1,000 ores and GDC. Since there are 10 hours VICR contract exists, users who buy at least 10 VICR contracts will be receiving the extra 100 ores deposit. Numerically, that was the previous discount as well.




it's good!
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 08, 2015, 02:40:40 AM

I didn't buy yet it would of been nice to know about it would of been a reason to buy sooner. Really should of been more public I have read nearly everything you have posted.

I thought you have heard about that like other users knew the existence of the classcode, but this cannot be an excuse for us. You are absolutely right we should communicate this better.

I am very sorry for not communicating that classcode clear and we will try to handle the communication better in the future.

no worries mate. supporters like myself who bought VICR bought it not because the 100 ores discount. i don't think it matters 900 or 1000 if someone really like the coin.
 

That is a stupid justification and easy for you to say since you are on the 1000 side of things. Just because I took longer to ask questions and make sure I understand I am not a supporter at your level?

I definitely didn't say that i am a better supporter than you are, but if you got that impression from my words then sorry for offending you. Anyway, seriously, really that 100 ores matters when your decide whether you support a coin with your money or not?

I'm glad that's not what you meant. But yes 100 ores matters, it would be 1000 ores in my case and it is incredibly frustrating to follow this project and ask to support months before and lose 10% to some insider bullshit. If you are a trader then you understand what a difference 10% is.

thanks god, I feel better and will sleep better if we are cool  Smiley  Smiley

I understand the 10% could make a difference, my day job is trading, but I trade very rarely with crypto. My side business is BTC mining and I am keeping or investing BTC rather selling it. Same with GDC, for that reason the extra 100 is indifferent to me right now..

everyone is getting the extra 100 ores who bought until yesterday and so it doesn't matter you knew it or not. the extra 100 is related to the 100 hours contract not the classcode any more. You are just unlucky because if you would bought yesterday until the 100 hours was active then you would get the 100 extra regardless of the code. I bought mine before they deactivated, I was lucky.
what I meant was about that doesn't matter the 100, if we can take this coin to USD 5 which was the original plan when they started then everyone will be happy even without the extra 100.


The reason it matters is because someone knew and was able to take advantage because they had inside info. Right now you are explaining why it doesn't matter to you. It matters to me and others, I hope you see why.

I am sorry for this, it was entirely my fault. Most of other team members are on holiday, I handle the majority of work on all fronts and I making mistakes which should never ever happen.
Regardless of my poor case handling, I can assure you, it was no intentional nor malicious insider info regarding to the discount code. The discount code has been decided a long time ago and when I discussed the marketing work with a community member, I asked the community member please help advertising the 100 hours contracts with the discount code. I assumed that all interested users who want to buy a 100 hours contract will be informed about the discount code by the community member who advertised the contacts.

I am very sorry for this poor communication, from now we will try to handle this better.


Who is this marketer? The worst part of this is that no where on the site, this thread, or the wallet was the code mentioned. These are the #1 resources, not some guy who hasn't even stopped by in the thread. If it really wasn't malicious then it needs to be reactivated for a set period of time. I really respect your work and would like to invest but when an error like this is made just saying "Sorry that happened, hopefully you can get over it and still buy contracts" it doesn't make me want to invest and is frankly disappointing. Check your inbox, how long ago did I ask to support your coin?
maybe it is better to continue this discount
@mtomcdev
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 07, 2015, 11:19:05 PM
what is  Class code meaning?
someone told me if i use his Class code to by the VICR100,i will get 1000 ore, 100 more than not use his Class code ?
Is it true?

and today  i see on the site it only have 10 hours contracts,  if i use especial Class Code , i still could get more ore ? 10 more ore than 90  ?

The 1000 ores classcode was in place until yesterday, so yes, the information was correct then. Now it's not available and there is no additional ores for that particular classcode any more.

The 10 hours VICR, which was requested by most of interested users has been rolled out and all VICR receives 90 ores equally.

If you wish to get more than 10 hours, you just need to increase the quantity at the buy contract screen.



Maybe it would be more fair , if buy ten 10-hours-contracts  then get 1000 ores , buy less then ten contracts no discount. 
can you thinking about this solution?  and this would be more fair,  because there was noting about the discount, and noting about which discount ending time.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 07, 2015, 12:36:29 PM
what is  Class code meaning?
someone told me if i use his Class code to by the VICR100,i will get 1000 ore, 100 more than not use his Class code ?
Is it true?

and today  i see on the site it only have 10 hours contracts,  if i use especial Class Code , i still could get more ore ? 10 more ore than 90  ?
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 03:10:07 AM
 How could I Runn a stream server node to earn ore?
is it just runing a specific software on PC? or need buy some Hardware?
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 04, 2015, 03:23:23 PM
I understand why centralization is required in the software, but I think the lack of decentralization will keep the digital currency community away from Gadgetnet.

decentralization and digital currency  is tools, for giving user better and more convenient services with lower cost.
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