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2241  Economy / Economics / Re: Money and wealth as the major religions in world. on: May 15, 2022, 09:44:29 AM
Of course, people need money, because we live in a material world and we need material goods to meet our needs, and money is their universal substitute. So I don't see anything wrong with money. When there is a lot of money, wealth appears, and here tests await a person, since wealth can corrupt him. It depends on the person himself in what direction he can use his wealth. But I think it is wrong to compare money and wealth with religion. Religion is our spirituality, and money and wealth are material things.
Agree with what you said. now how our behavior and actions are actually whether we can control money or whether we want to be enslaved and controlled by money. this is something that is possible now. we have seen many examples today that many people are like being controlled by money and power but there are also people who can be in power only by controlling the money in their hands.
2242  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A time people have been waiting for bitcoin to drop on: May 15, 2022, 09:22:19 AM
i still see there will be a drop to 28k-27k for bitcoin price.

the best strategy now is DCA. in installments buy little by little. because now it is difficult to predict whether to continue the bear market or will return to the bull market.
Installing it little by little is certainly quite possible to do while continuing to see whether their next movement will continue to experience correction or not. but even if that's the case, it certainly won't hurt if you want to keep them for a relatively longer time because in this case bitcoin is actually not very suitable to be stored in daily trading and would be better stored in a futures period.
2243  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and Ethereum at risk of serious losses on: May 14, 2022, 09:16:33 PM
In this case, they experienced a deep correction even in the support area they couldn't hold it, so if we look at them now they plunged to $28k but in this case of course we don't lose if we don't panic and sell immediately.
we only have a shortage in your portfolio and as long as you don't sell assets and continue to hold them while believing that they will return to the way they were before it's not a loss in my opinion because all we need now is to be patient and wait
Bitcoin and ethereum are the leading coins in the cryptocurrency market. I do not think that something can happen to them, if only because there are no objective reasons for this. Of course, they can lose a lot of their value for a while. But it means practically nothing if we don't panic and make mistakes. Whoever holds these coins for a long time always wins.
The fact is that they are currently being corrected and whether they deny it or not is currently happening.
Regardless of worthy or not as well as reputable or not of course we agree on this they are one of the most powerful at the moment.
and this is a temporary correction that people especially old holders don't really see.
As for panic, I don't think it's too panicky because they even reached their lowest point a few years ago, so why should we panic?
2244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 14, 2022, 08:57:33 PM
Finally entering the 76th minute Eldor Shomurudov managed to score a goal which made the score 1-1. Roma, who really dominated the match,
should have had time remaining to score another goal to win the match. I didn't expect Roma to be so difficult to beat Venezia, even though Venezia is
currently only playing with 10 men after getting a red card in the first half. However, there is no other choice, Roma must be able to beat Venezia
if Roma still wants to stay in the top 6.
They squandered chances in this match because indeed they are superior in terms of player quality, they are also favored in terms of number of players because one of Venezia's players is on red card but they can't maximize this well.
obviously this is a loss considering they are in an unsafe 6th position because there are Fiorentina there. and they've wasted this opportunity by playing a draw
2245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 14, 2022, 06:36:08 PM
Chelsea's Mendy came close to almost saving two penalties but unfortunately "almost " doesn't count and by the way the Liverpool guys are taking some good penalties too...can Mane win it for Liverpool like he did for Senegal 🇸🇳  Huh


Oh boy, mendy just saved Manes ball and it's back to sudden death,  anybody can win it now.
it's quite a tense second and I'm confused by the result because both teams are kicking really well now. Mendy almost became a hero at 2 kicks he could barely hold but indeed it's still not over.
now it's just luck, mentally they have to strengthen because it's quite difficult if the players are not mentally ready to kick
2246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 13, 2022, 08:22:39 AM
On paper maybe Milan will win and that can also be compared with the currently available odds, it is clear that Milan is the favourite. Also, it was in their first match of the season that Milan won by a score of 2-3, but right now both of them really need full points. Considering Atalanta's current performance is not so good, it makes Milan's chances of winning indeed higher but I'm not so sure. Because after all, when the team is unstable and in doubt, then it can make the results on paper be different.
I agree with you because regardless of anything they will still be the leading candidates in this match especially they definitely want to win so they can stay on top.
on the other hand at this time of course they still have big enough motivation especially they don't want Inter to overtake them.
at least a small victory for them now is not a big problem
2247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 13, 2022, 07:21:55 AM
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It was a very bad day for Arsenal and the fans. I assume that they weren't expecting to have such game today. And honestly I also waited for a high level of rivalry between them. Because this was a very important game for the Champions League spot. And Tottenham won a victory very easily especially thanks to Arsenal's being shown a red card. Tottenham started to have the game under control more after that. Now let's see if Tottenham will be able to close the one point gap too and get past them.

Yes, Arsenal performance was very poor  from the starting that was making some fans to have negative thought about the game, that the game will not end up for the favour of Arsenal. At 33 minutes red card was given to Arsenal player that made many people to lose their confidence on the match and their prediction because many people predicted for the favour of Arsenal. Tottenham started the game well because they were fully prepared to defeat Arsenal to embrace the 3 points from the game which they did before the end of the game.
Some of their mistakes ended in fatality.
Penalties and red cards in 30 minutes of running time made them a bit mentally shaken which made it a little difficult to develop.
they were forced to stay in this match which makes it seem like the players are very frustrated with it.
on the other hand Tottenham played quite smart, they continued to make a surging attack which broke Arsenal's rhythm as they continued to focus on defense
2248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Final! on: May 13, 2022, 07:05:48 AM
What is clear is that they should not underestimate Madrid in this regard.
Now Madrid has turned into a frightening specter who initially was a team that could be said to be underdog because they continued to face tough opponents but now they are like a boomerang and regardless of luck or their mentality is very good, Madrid is now a pretty scary figure.
Liverpool are currently still busy with their Quadruple target which may be lost and I think it would be better if they focused on the Champions League final instead of thinking about the EPL title which is quite difficult to achieve

I agree with you it is better and it makes sense for Liverpool to focus on the Champions League final rather than the Premier League. Because the English league champion is in the hands of Manchester City, while the Champions League winner is Liverpool's own decision if they can win the final match against Real Madrid, this automatically becomes Jurgen Klopp's achievement and Liverpool will definitely make a new history in the Champions League.
It's true that they are eyeing the EPL now only hoping for the worst game from City but this looks like it will be very difficult to happen considering they are now only focused there. different from the Champions League now because here they just have to play better than Madrid and try to score goals to win and that is in their own hands.
focus is something that is quite important because indeed when their focus is divided they can lose everything, be it the EPL or Champions League
2249  Economy / Economics / Re: Buy? . . . Nah, hang on a minute. on: May 13, 2022, 05:52:54 AM
this is actually a basic concept because in this case buying at a low price and selling at a high price are actually words that must be held firmly from the start when you are here.
but on the other hand, many people find it very difficult to apply things like this properly.
There are several reasons when they can't afford the first such as not being able to resist the temptation when the price rises a little they immediately sell and when the price corrects they panic about it.
In fact the people who have the understanding of buying when it's cheap and selling very high are the only people who have experience here and indeed it takes patience and research is needed for this.
2250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and Ethereum at risk of serious losses on: May 13, 2022, 05:29:58 AM
In this case, they experienced a deep correction even in the support area they couldn't hold it, so if we look at them now they plunged to $28k but in this case of course we don't lose if we don't panic and sell immediately.
we only have a shortage in your portfolio and as long as you don't sell assets and continue to hold them while believing that they will return to the way they were before it's not a loss in my opinion because all we need now is to be patient and wait
2251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 Final! on: May 12, 2022, 01:24:08 PM
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The road to the Finals is still long and both teams will have plenty of movement in their respective Leagues to complete a few more games. Only Real Madrid managed to lock the victory. Liverpool are still busy fighting to minimize the difference with Manchester City as much as possible. There are still many possibilities that can happen ahead of the final later.

I think, Liverpool players are busy for what will bring favour to them at the end of the final because they don't want Real Madrid to disgrace them like the way they disgrace other teams in this season. I still stand for Liverpool to win this season champion league title because they had performed well from the beginning of this tournament till now which it will make many people to predict for their favour. Real Madrid players will try their possible best to draw the match, but it will be difficult for Liverpool to allow the match to end up draw than to use their tactics to defeat Real Madrid 2-1 for the favour of Liverpool.
What is clear is that they should not underestimate Madrid in this regard.
Now Madrid has turned into a frightening specter who initially was a team that could be said to be underdog because they continued to face tough opponents but now they are like a boomerang and regardless of luck or their mentality is very good, Madrid is now a pretty scary figure.
Liverpool are currently still busy with their Quadruple target which may be lost and I think it would be better if they focused on the Champions League final instead of thinking about the EPL title which is quite difficult to achieve
2252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 12, 2022, 01:09:19 PM
Well, it will indeed be very difficult for Liverpool as competitors now.
they only have 2 games left there and at this point City are 3 points clear which makes it even more difficult.
it doesn't really matter if Liverpool will be able to continue to win in the last 2 matches but it will be a bit of a problem if now City have to lose because indeed this will be very difficult to happen considering their performance and focus now is only on the EPL

It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post. Because in order to win the title of Liverpool, Manchester City will have to lose 3 points. Manchester City's next two opponents are Wet Ham and Aston Villa. Very tough opponents and the possibility of Manchester City losing points. Liverpool will play against Southampton and the Wolves.
Aston Villa and West Ham are good teams but this is still not enough to stop City in my opinion especially in the last few games they have not played well.
I still believe in the strength of City until now and until now I still have no doubts about them who will be champions at the end of this season.
Liverpool may be good but expecting City to lose is one of the hardest things to happen
2253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 12, 2022, 10:53:39 AM
In fact, we waited all year for this day to come. We can't watch such an exciting league end every year at the end of the year. This year, the Italian League was very enjoyable and there was always competition.
This entertainment will continue until the last week and we will watch it with pleasure. It is still unclear which team will finish the league in which order Cheesy
It is interesting to see the competition in Serie A this season because indeed they have often elbowed and stepped over each other for each other this season even though this happened because of some mistakes by the club itself but indeed this is still very worth watching.
I even prefer to see their rivalry this season compared to last season because this season there is more drama there and that's what makes it more exciting
2254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 12, 2022, 10:20:41 AM
I think also because Manchester City are fighting for the Premier League title this season because they have failed in other leagues this season so it will be very important for Manchester City to get the Premier League title this season so that everyone can know that Manchester City are the champions Very good and talented club in England for this season.
Manchester City would make strong candidates for a chance to get into the final but if they fight for the Trophy against Arsenal then it will be the biggest game of the season, I would probably go for both as these two teams are very good games so far this season.
Well, it will indeed be very difficult for Liverpool as competitors now.
they only have 2 games left there and at this point City are 3 points clear which makes it even more difficult.
it doesn't really matter if Liverpool will be able to continue to win in the last 2 matches but it will be a bit of a problem if now City have to lose because indeed this will be very difficult to happen considering their performance and focus now is only on the EPL
2255  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin continue to have the same effect on alts? on: May 12, 2022, 10:05:26 AM
In this case it is certainly true and indeed sometimes we also have to look in this direction because altcoins are always rotating in bitcoin as a place of circulation but on the other hand it is possible for Alt there are other additions such as looking at some of the projects they will develop as an added power there .
for now regarding the price it doesn't seem like it will be too good if you look at the movements of the last few hours but if we are willing to pay in installments then there is no harm in buying from now
yeah that's right. the best strategy now is installments (DCA). because you see the movement of BTC which is likely to continue to fall in the next few days. because the current support has been broken.

then we can see the decline in altcoins is getting sharper. never buy with all the money in the current situation. because the potential for bitcoin to continue to fall is still visible although some rejection reflections are seen but if the bitcoin accumulation area is penetrated then there is a high possibility that the decline will continue.
Their support was broken a few hours ago and now they have the potential to continue their decline in a more severe direction.
I'm not going to talk about altcoins now because it's like slaughter and blood (red color) is everywhere Cheesy
It's important not to look at the market in the near future because if you keep watching, you will panic more.
2256  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and Ethereum at risk of serious losses on: May 11, 2022, 04:13:09 PM
I never said they should enter only when BTC is above $60k. Why would you even think that ?
Right now BTC is trading around $31k and so we should probably wait to see if there's no major dip again.
If bitcoin sustains this price and crosses $35k again then it will be a safe zone to invest some money.
We should make sure that BTC is sustaining the price above $35k to be on the safer side.
Waiting is one thing that really has to be done now but there is nothing wrong with continuing to pay in installments at the price we want now, in my opinion, because this is indeed very cheap compared to the previous ATH so there is nothing wrong with buying regularly now. but indeed if your research shows that bitcoin will still go a long way as long as you are sure to wait at that price it doesn't really matter now because it is also profitable
2257  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin continue to have the same effect on alts? on: May 11, 2022, 03:34:34 PM
because I know that altcoins will always follow bitcoin. so even though I will buy altcoins but I still analyze bitcoin first. like before, I prepared money to buy automatic coins. then I saw the potential for a decline in bitcoin again, so I canceled my intention to buy matic before bitcoin went down. so after bitcoin dropped to $29,000, I immediately went in to buy matic which decreased by 24%/24 hours due to bitcoin's decline which fell to about 8%/24 hours.
and I think a lot of people are doing the same thing.

This proves the power of bitcoin
In this case it is certainly true and indeed sometimes we also have to look in this direction because altcoins are always rotating in bitcoin as a place of circulation but on the other hand it is possible for Alt there are other additions such as looking at some of the projects they will develop as an added power there .
for now regarding the price it doesn't seem like it will be too good if you look at the movements of the last few hours but if we are willing to pay in installments then there is no harm in buying from now
2258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: May 11, 2022, 03:08:52 PM
Leeds United V Chelsea

Chelsea has lost points in the last 3 matches. They also lost to Everton. Chelsea has a chance to win against Leeds United today. Lead United's performance is very poor. And they are in the relegation zone now. If they can't win against Leeds today, they will lose points in the next two matches. In today's match I am quite optimistic that Chelsea will be able to score full points.
actually in this case it doesn't really matter whether they lose or win because it doesn't really affect their position in the top 4 because regardless of anything they will be able to be there.
but it would be better if they won. in the last few matches they did not perform optimally and now they have to start improving their game in this match
2259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Horse Racing and Gambling on it should be banned on: May 11, 2022, 08:45:08 AM

You nailed it.
But many people do not care about it. They just want to have fun and money at the same time. I am not sure what goes on in the mind of horse owners. Do they really have soft heart? I doubt that.

Let alone horses, considering cock, spiders, and dogs, if they just want to make fun, they will make everyone fight just to make something to bet on. Maybe they cannot resist the old habits they have and don't care about the animals after all. When I saw the no-choice in the eyes of those animals, I translate them as cruelty and those people involved in this somehow don't have any hospitality towards those animals when they lose the game.
This becomes quite difficult for some people to accept because they think that there is still a lot of exploitation of animals that is still going on and maybe things like this are not considered as exploitation because they think this is a natural thing when compared to other cases of torture.
even though on the other hand things like this might be minimized with the smallest things but indeed this will also be a little difficult to happen considering that things like this are commonplace in some areas
2260  Economy / Economics / Re: Get, Save & Invest. on: May 11, 2022, 08:20:07 AM
When it comes to savings and real needs I still go the old way of managing my current finances. when i get money i make multiple allocations and the one i often use is method 50,30,20.
when I get my salary I save 50% for my daily needs to save my life in the following days, 30 percent for my personal desires and 20% for savings.
when talking about the needs on the other day, actually there was already an allocation of 50% there because that was the initial thing that had been prepared.
as for saving the concept if there is something urgent or for purposes in old age.
when you save only for tomorrow then maybe you need to re-manage your finances

From your explanation of how you manage your finances, I think it's quite inspiring for me to follow, because the amount of the allocation of
funds that you specify for me is quite reasonable. Indeed, in living our daily lives most of our income is used to meet daily needs. So it's not
surprising that we must at least allocate 50% of our income for daily needs. Most importantly, we should not be short of money to meet our
daily needs. If our daily needs are not met, then something is wrong in managing our finances. Everyone certainly has a personal desire to
entertain ourselves from the stress of work that we experience. So there must always be an allocation of funds for us to spend on personal needs.
But I think 30% is too big for personal use, for me 10% for personal needs is enough. So the remaining 40% I suggest is divided into 20%
for savings and 20% more usually I use for investment. With such a financial arrangement I am sure my future can be bright.
Agree with what you say because 50% feels big enough for daily needs but on the other hand everyone needs to express themselves. saving is indeed very good but on the other hand we also don't have to torture ourselves for it but of course if indeed the allocation we previously determined is still there, then indeed we also save it for investment in old age as well as for 30% personal desires when we don't If you want anything this month, then we can also move it for investment because this is only an allocation regardless of whether it is fully used or not, the most important thing is that it doesn't interfere with old-age savings.
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