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121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: June 11, 2016, 08:31:58 PM
I have rolling limits so to say.

First I start with an amount for that day.
Lets say it's 0.10 BTC for example.
That is what I can and expect (lol) to lose.
As doubling is not enough for both game experience as profit I don't cash out at 0.2 (unless I'm bored of course but it is not a low limit) for me it is about 3x initial deposit where limits start shifting.
So when I have 0.3 BTC my cash out low limit will be 0.15 to 0.2 depending on my mood.
When I reach 0.4 my cash out low limit will be 0.2 to 0.3 etc

Playing this way with either BTC or in real life does not prevent you stopping at a goal when you're on a roll but makes certain there is no loss and a little profit. (granted you get to doubling of course). It also prevents myself of ever increasing high bids in games as I can't bet more then what's above my low limit.

Ok I must say I had a lot of times that I thought that I should have bet more because I would have won more, but those times are still way less then hat my system saved me going bankrupt. And I think it is online a bit harder then in real life, as in real life casino's I put the stuff in my pockets, not on the table or in a slot. For example when I win a pretty big bonus on a slot I cash out and put another bill in. So I have my payout in my pocket.
122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: June 11, 2016, 06:03:45 PM
My biggest loss was during a ame of progressive slot wins. I started with 0.1 BTC and worked my luck all the way up to more than 4 BTC, but I was too greedy and instead of cashing out I simply spent my time playing more and more.

I went from 0.1 BTC, to 4 BTC in 10 minutes, and from 4 BTC, to 0 BTC in 20 minutes.

I didn't cry tho..

You should cry. It is healthy, let it all out. You will feel a lot better when you release your emotions. This has been scientifically documented.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/benefits-of-a-good-cry-crying-science_us_55dca26fe4b0a40aa3ac4e30

Otherwise, your emotions will be suppressed and you will never know when the negative feelings will strike you.

Nah I didn't feel like crying. I was just mad for some time, but it did not last, because at the end of the day I only lost 0.1 BTC.
If I had actually put 4 BTC to end up to 0, then yes I would cry and be mad for a month or two.

That is what most people seem to forget.
That 4 BTC (in your case) is just a number and only becomes a profit when you would have withdrawn it.
123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you want to see in Bitcoin casinos? on: June 10, 2016, 10:38:05 PM
OK well there are a few things I would like. I don't play that much in online casinos because I like real casinos and they make me aware of being busy with gambling and when not. playing online I can do on the toilet of I want so that kinda makes the border diffuse. So taking that, I might suggest things that are already available so excuse me for that and I do compare it with RL gambling probably too much.

What I would like to see:
- First is about the bankroll that someone has. I don't like that when I switch from slots or other games I put in my complete bankroll I have on a site. For reference when gambling in RL most of my bankroll is in my pocket and part of my winnings go to another pocket.

So lets say I put 1 BTC into a site I would like to have the choice to put 0.05 BTC into one game, if I lose all I still have 0.95 to try out other games, if I double up and switch games I have 0.05 in a new game and 1 BTC in account for additional purposes.

- Another one is slots, I like to play slots in casinos but not so much the 777s, I can have a good time with extended features and several bonus types. I probably haven't found the right online casino for that yet but most slots online get me easily bored. Maybe a scatter or a bonus once in a while but the "experience" is totally different then in RL .

Ok I can understand the coins that get into development of these games both in RL as online are a huge difference. But still that is something that I miss.

- what I also miss with tablegames and/or card games is just watching a few of the tables before I make up my mind on where and what to play. Not sure how to describe that, but when strolling around the roulettetables in a casino you can see 3 to 6 tables and their previous numbers at once. In a split second you can decide if a table is rolling your numbers or not, weird superstition I guess, but online I just cant. I need to go into a table (for rl comparison it is like each table has its own room where you cant see the other before entering them.

Same goes for when others are on a roll, sometimes you just want to join and surf the waves next to them. But I guess this has a lot to do with atmosphere and is not easily possible online.

-Ohw and I miss the cute waitresses bringing me booze lol

The thing is when I play online and I lost my coins for that evening I consider it a loss, when I play in RL 70% of the time I consider it as a loss well worth the entertainment it gave me.

But that is probably just me
124  Economy / Lending / Re: NEED 0.38 BTC LOAN on: June 10, 2016, 06:47:37 PM
Private keys can be sold along with accounts too.

This ^^^^ is a valid reason a lot of people seem to forget
125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you spend your gambling winnings on ? on: June 09, 2016, 08:36:57 AM
If I win in gambling or have earned from investing/trading I always take a cut to spend it on whatever feels like fun at that moment.
Profits are just numbers if you keep shoving them around and not enjoy the spoils of your war. So my wealth grows more slow then I would when I keep reinvesting/gambling/shoving it around but I sure have a whole lot more fun.

Spoil your SO, your kids, family and friends, waste some coins in having a good time, because that is what makes memories and you would like to have those right before you leave this world. A bag of coins is not sufficient in that.

BTW when you actually do spoil yourself or the ones surrounding you it feels extra sweet knowing it was a certain gamble or trade that paid for it. For me personally it feels much better then saving up from my normal wages and spend it somehow.
126  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory Wallet grief on: June 08, 2016, 07:45:22 AM
I am just curious if neilbab has tried this:


what eventually worked for me was the following:

- I moved my walletfiles to a different location
- reinstalled Armory (complete removed all and reinstalled it)and let it connect without making or importing a wallet.
- when armory was showing "connected" I imported the wallet from that different location (wallets>Import or restore wallet)
- And I let it restore while Armory was running (One by one, no simultaneously restoring wallets) (it might take a while for old or heavily used wallets)


as it worked for me with similar issues.
127  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory Wallet grief on: June 06, 2016, 08:08:25 AM
I had a similar issue a couple of days(weeks?) ago. But I thought it was just on my end (had a hdd failure and just recently swapped everything to a new hdd) Nothing seemed to help.

- Rescanning/rebuilding didn't work.
- reinstalling didn't work.
- reinstalling and restoring with the backup didn't work.
- checking the wallet on errors gave 0 errors
- the building of the databases went to 99% but as soon as it checked the transaction history Armory crashed.
- rebuilding the tx history in bitcoinqt didn't help anything.

what eventually worked for me was the following:

- I moved my walletfiles to a different location
- reinstalled Armory and let it connect without making or importing a wallet.
- when armory was showing "connected" I imported the wallet from that different location (wallets>Import or restore wallet)
- And I let it restore while Armory was running (One by one, no simultaneously restoring wallets) (it might take a while for old or heavily used wallets)


I do run bitcoinqt separately so Armory doesn't control it.

And sadly because of the reinstalling and stuff I don't have logs of what happened.

Good luck
128  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: June 03, 2016, 07:10:47 AM
Hi, I had an issue with a tx and asked about it in the chat:

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lopent
Hi, can you look into this transaction? http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=476e71958b9b5585abcc14470d36cdc67b71486cfbf24932f5c39b4fe73eae1d I send it accidentally with way too low fee so it took more then half a day to confirm. I am sorry for that.

https://blockchain.info/tx/476e71958b9b5585abcc14470d36cdc67b71486cfbf24932f5c39b4fe73eae1d

Your answer was that you would refund it.

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secondstradecom
@lopent we are checking it now.
3:12

@lopent we refunded it now.
4:12

As of now I didn't receive anything yet. Can you please refund or show me the tx from refunding?

Thank You

we sent it to the another address by mistake. so refund you again now, the refund tx id is https://blockchain.info/tx/2ceb9804e3d1d2a272abe54a2131233359f2cfeb3256d135b03ade966895e63b
sorry for late refund.

Thank You .
Problem solved.
129  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: June 02, 2016, 07:19:07 AM
Hi, I had an issue with a tx and asked about it in the chat:

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lopent
Hi, can you look into this transaction? http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=476e71958b9b5585abcc14470d36cdc67b71486cfbf24932f5c39b4fe73eae1d I send it accidentally with way too low fee so it took more then half a day to confirm. I am sorry for that.

https://blockchain.info/tx/476e71958b9b5585abcc14470d36cdc67b71486cfbf24932f5c39b4fe73eae1d

Your answer was that you would refund it.

Quote
secondstradecom
@lopent we are checking it now.
3:12

@lopent we refunded it now.
4:12

As of now I didn't receive anything yet. Can you please refund or show me the tx from refunding?

Thank You
130  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory 0.94.1 is out on: June 02, 2016, 07:13:29 AM
I just waited it out. It took about 13 hours for a 3 sats/b tx.

https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

You can choose the sat/b based on how long you wish to wait.  Bitpay in my experience accepts 0-confirmation payments, so you can use the lowest fee setting in mycelium.

It was not the fee that was the problem at first, it was the size of the tx as it was build up from all small inputs into one output. That made it almost 9kb. Normally my tx are between 200 and 800 b and my fee is slightly higher then average/ideal on tradeblock or blocktrail. So that is why my fee was 10 to 20 times lower then normal.
131  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory 0.94.1 is out on: June 02, 2016, 12:06:57 AM
I just waited it out. It took about 13 hours for a 3 sats/b tx.
132  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory 0.94.1 is out on: June 01, 2016, 05:28:55 PM
Question.

Is it possible to see the size of a tx before you send it? Either with direct sending or with the steps of creating an unsigned tx - sign & broadcast it?

I ask this because I made a transaction that had a huge size in kb and so an extremely low fee sats/bit that will take ages to confirm.

So next time I would like to prevent that.

You can look at the raw tx after signing it, in the offline signing/broadcasting dialog.

Thanks. I looked everywhere but didn't decode the Raw Tx  Roll Eyes

As of now there is no way to rebroadcast the tx with a higher fee right?

Any plans to implement replace by fee in a next update?
133  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory 0.94.1 is out on: June 01, 2016, 09:25:10 AM
Question.

Is it possible to see the size of a tx before you send it? Either with direct sending or with the steps of creating an unsigned tx - sign & broadcast it?

I ask this because I made a transaction that had a huge size in kb and so an extremely low fee sats/bit that will take ages to confirm.

So next time I would like to prevent that.
134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is worse - Losing all your btc to slots, dice, etc? on: May 29, 2016, 07:50:32 PM
All are equal for me. I am bad in gambling in a sense that if I win 1 btc and lose 0.5 in the same period I feel more worse about the 0.5 loss then the 1 BTC win makes me happy. Even if I are in profit in general.
135  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Fee calculation in Armory on: March 16, 2016, 10:06:55 AM
If you could set up "fee per kb" instead of "fee per tx" it would solve a lot of issues
136  Economy / Reputation / Re: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? on: March 02, 2016, 11:25:42 PM
Well first of all, You give a completely different response then some here in this thread and I can respect that.

Sorry for being late.

I know this is bitcointalk  Roll Eyes So they read the title and not the glaringly obvious warning of the subforum wherein the schemes are placed?
Noobs miss the bright red "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" under a user's name several times, why would they read a note in a subforum?
Though assuming that everyone read everything they should, there's still a few problems. The first being language barriers; not everyone speaks English and not everyone may understand what that message means.
The second being human nature. People tend to believe things differently should it affect them positively. For some people a scheme they invest in could promise to kill a child per investment, though their own greed will have them invest for personal gain anyway.
Lastly, if people like OP were to post on threads saying how legitimate the promoted service is, do you not think this would lower/nullify the warning given by the forum?


How do you know that if they found a link on google, opened the lalala.ponzi page, clicked on "forum" and get redirected here (what we have seen a lot). Did they even saw it is bitcointalk and not being blindsided by the BTCBTCBTC in their eyes that made them miss the said warning?
Then there is nothing we can do against that apart from put it in obnoxious bold red lettering, which isn't going to happen. I'm sure that they would read the posts in the thread though, so once again people like OP making the service seem legitimate doesn't help.

Exactly the same with bitcoin though maybe they can't deny they know it is bitcoin but they sure can deny knowing the law on it pretending being young and uneducated ("someone naive and inexperienced")  
They can, yes. However, afaik claiming that you didn't know a law existed doesn't then make that law not be applied to you. Regardless, as said above, the legality of Ponzis is not what the problem here is (and is likely an issue for another topic/board).


First of all I am not against warnings at all, quite the opposite actually and I never lured anyone in promising great profits or anything. I made them aware of the system and the pits they can fall in but only when asked. I even think that the subforum should be renamed Ponzi's Pyramides and HYIPs just to make it even more clear. In another thread I explained why it is better to have a controlled space for that kind of things where in you can keep them small and tight and the losses of the noobs of the bitcoin community (not the bitcointalk community) can be low as the coins they put in seldom go over the 0.01BTC I mainly referred to the law because someone mentioned Ponzi's are illegal.

And yeah it is a lame thing giving someone negative trust because he is using bitcoin on a bitcoinforum, I agree
The problem should this happen is not how 'uncool' it would be to leave everyone a negative, more that if that were to become the norm any users with a legitimate negative trust would be overlooked and could scam further.

it is just as lame as giving noobs negative trust for burning their fingers.
The topic here isn't about a noob getting a negative trust for investing in something he shouldn't. This topic is about a member who has been here for a long time trying to legitimize a service that he knows will become anything but.


Well for some in here it is not about the long time member presenting it as legit service. It is about everyone that is joining a Ponzi in the subforum and according to their account everyone who is joining is proving they are a scammer hence the cute red warning:

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Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!



But in my opinion that is tagging the noobs too, like you say they are not the point in this discussion. As said warning explains they will tag everyone that is joining noob or not. and by that I come to this point:

The problem should this happen is not how 'uncool' it would be to leave everyone a negative, more that if that were to become the norm any users with a legitimate negative trust would be overlooked and could scam further.

The problem they cause by this I explained here:


It is really not that hard to explain. A red trust is a warning. Warnings make you aware something is up. They work because they aren't always around us. But when every participant has the same warning on their profile it loses it's message.

When a noob googles bitcoindoubler and comes to the subforum and sees everyone with with negative trust it is nothing special anymore and I doubt they will check it.

A negative trust, a warning should not be giving lightly in my opinion for that exact reason. It should stand out when visiting a page. And it will lose its message in that subforum when everyone wears that tag.

So by them tagging everyone, you have to agree that it will even become more obscure for a newcomer to see the legitimate negative trust on the ones organizing as everyone is wearing the same tag.

So I have no problem what so ever with a warning in every new thread, it could even be an automated message that gives an ever clearer warning than the standard warning above the sub. I have no problem with tagging every operator deep in the red and explain it in the topic itself. But I do think it will miss it's goal if you will tag everyone.
137  Economy / Reputation / Re: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? on: March 02, 2016, 06:38:26 PM

Of course the sequence of events matters!

If you log in to a Dice site, make a deposit of BTC and roll, you have no idea whether the wins/losses of the people before you will mean you will find yourself fortunate enough to be joining in at the best time in the algorithm or the worst. Your wins and losses are not knowingly dictated by the players before you, although they are a factor, the players before you have no way of knowing how their playing will affect your playing.

If you join a Ponzi and send money in, you then have to seek out other people and convince them to send money in so that you don't end up being the user who doesn't get paid. The purpose of joining the scheme is to *not* be the mug who doesn't profit, so you have to post encouraging words in their threads to rustle up some other people who, through your post, will be encouraged enough to send in their money, resulting in some of their money being shared with you.

Your profit comes, not from a provably-fair algorithm unaffected by other players but, instead, a mathematically unsustainable process of finding other people to take the fall for you.



Not all Ponzi's work like that. Only the most simplistic stuff is like that. But as soon as there are different options in "profits" and timeframes in "turnovers" there is no need to get new investors, you can easily scoop up the coins already in a project as last player scammer  Roll Eyes. Pretty standard in the HYIP world. Not so common here yet as most of the projects here are just the same lame script copy. However flexibit was an example of that. And one user from here showed exactly what I just said. that is just math.

Btw the process is unstable and that can be proven by math but it is not unstable because of math.
138  Economy / Reputation / Re: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? on: March 02, 2016, 04:47:14 PM
Says the guy with a gambling signature :shakeshead:

It's ok to promote one form of gambling but not another? Guess if Ponzi's were allowed to do signature campaigns people's tune may change.
They are allowed as per forum rules, but not the community

As part of the community I disagree
139  Economy / Reputation / Re: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? on: March 02, 2016, 10:53:05 AM
Well it is true it is ripping off people.

Just like . . . .blah blah blah blah irrelevance but I'm posting it anyway because I believe it will righteously prove that because other people behave in an untrustworthy fashion it is wrong to make an effort to stop any of them. . . bleurgh *ffffft* *plop*

Quote from: Cryptodevil
You don't want to be the one who doesn't get paid, fact.
You post in ponzi threads to hopefully make sure other users are the ones who don't get paid, fact.

Demonstrating the above behaviour proves you are untrustworthy, therefore you will be marked as such.

Whining about how the world isn't fair doesn't make your scumbaggery any less repugnant.



If you don't recognize the world of western business for what it is it is fine by me. I didn't say it was to prove any good. You misread again.

you say:

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3. Posting of your participation in any form in their threads is UNDENIABLE PROOF that you don't give a shit about other users being ripped off.

I do give a shit, that is why I chose certain users to be ripped off and others not.


But I gave you a head start. I quoted the warnings and say that I would have put my coins in if they were not busy elsewhere atm. So go ahead tag me. Too bad I only saw one of your friends that I could quote.

140  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: https://xtra-btc.com 160% return of your investment on: March 02, 2016, 10:51:02 AM
Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!



yay finally  Grin

It is that my coins are working somewhere else otherwise I would have joined  Roll Eyes
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