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1  Local / Майнеры / Re: Майнеры, вопрос к вам. on: June 11, 2014, 06:54:41 AM
Стоит ли вкладывать деньги в асики или уже поезд ушел?

если вопрос разбить на 2 - то два ответа будут такие

1) окупаемость в битках
купленные по правильной цене выч мощности - да, окупятся, можно на основании калькулятора btcsec - окупились за прошедшие 3 месяца и вероятно (IMHO) окупятся за следующие 3 и будут выгодны еще примерно до ноября... факторы риска ? резкий рост мощности, ожидается (больше 15% в месяц)

2) окупаемость в фиате
сложно, зависит от политических решений больших игроков, осенью возможны потрясения, как в одну так и в другую сторону
2  Local / Майнеры / Re: bitfury - вызов сообществу! on: October 13, 2013, 07:21:41 PM
Нужно было всего лишь грамотно оценивать риски. Не умеете - не лезьте!

+100500

добавлю ... мысли WiFu что какие-то его "взносы" повлияли на результат  - это мания величия (часто бывает при шизофрении)... все было сделано на другой основе, а то что отгрузили - это из уважения к энтузиастам... Format.C - подвел итог...
3  Economy / Economics / The new EU bailin law was passed 8 days ago….did you notice? on: August 10, 2013, 11:30:32 AM
The new EU bailin law was passed 8 days ago….did you notice?

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/global-looting-the-new-eu-bailin-law-was-passed-8-days-ago-did-you-notice/

Revealed: official details on how the EU will steal from us

Three beaming eurocrats – Barroso, Van Rompuy and Lithuanian Dalia Grybauskaite – emerged triumphant from a session two days ago, in which they mapped out the biggest bank heist in world history. This is to put flesh on the eurozone law hastily passed on August 1st (while EU citizens were on holiday) to deal with the inevitability event of a bank collapse. Under this draft proposal – which many expect to be applied to the entire EU – no depositor big or small will in future be able to feel safe with money deposited in a bank. The Slog now calls for those who represent us, across the entire cultural spectrum of European society – to do something.

In a barely read piece a month ago, the International Business Times reported on the rapidly drafted new EU law for “overhauling its policy on how banks receive bumper bailouts”. Be aware: this is an EU move, not a eurozone move: it is already law (it passed on August 1st) and although for now it applies only to the eurozone, it is an EU law. Hardly anyone has commented on this, but the approach being taken matches word for word the 3-card trick George Osborne used six weeks ago when he said:

“In future, taxpayers will not be called upon to bail banks out. It will be down to the creditors and the owners”.

The most remarkable example of double-speak to date, at the time I pointed out that creditors are taxpayers (they’re account holders, simple as that) and so as the Establishments daren’t ask us for higher taxes to bail out their mates in the banking system, they will take it via, if you like, Direct Debit. It is exactly the same principle of stealing the Troika wishes to apply to Greek private pension funds.

The initial piece at the IBT website noted that ‘Eurozone leaders agreed upon the major policy shift and also confirmed that the new rules will help protect the taxpayer and move the burden of bailing out the banks onto shareholders and junior debt holders.” Again, more bollocks: how will ripping your money out protect you? And note – junior debt holders…aka, you and I.

3monkropBut yesterday from the German site Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten (German Economic News) came a piece reporting that all bets are off as far as the ‘guarantee of all funds under €100,000′ pledge is concerned. Under the current Lithuanian Presidency of Dalia Grybauskaite (seen left between a Trot and a poet), the proposal as drafted – and almost entirely ignored by the Western media – states as follows:

* Treatment will not be the same regardless of size of deposit, BUT small account holders will have to wait up to four weeks to get their money….’depending on how serious the insolvency is’. During that time, there will be a maximum withdrawal of €100-200 per day – again, perhaps less depending on the seriousness of the failure. (Based on the Cyprus experience, the haircut in the end will be at least 60%).

* The EU Parliament – allegedly – is demanding that deposits of €100,000+ euros should be confiscated within five days. (So much for MEPs offering us some kind of protection from the Sprouts).

* In the event of a banking collapse, all previous government commitments are null and void.  The force majeur of “exceptional circumstances” can lead to ways round such pledges. Part of the new plan suggests savers could also be subject to a ‘penalty tax’ if they have less than € 100,000 in the bank. (So much for Merkel’s promise to the German people).

George Orwell could’ve dropped acid and still not come up with a scheme quite so assumptive and brazenly deranged as this one. It is based on the following insane principles:

1. Putting money in a bank makes every citizen a creditor of that bank, equally prone to confiscation in order to repay….who exactly? The answer is, other banks it owed money. So it’s not really our money after all, it’s the banking sector’s money. After it’s been taxed by the Government, despite the fact that we earned it…it’s really all bankers’ money after all. Unbelievable.

2. If we are prudent enough to keep money in smaller amounts in lots of accounts, we will have to pay a ‘penalty tax’ – well of course we will: I mean, given it’s never our money really – we’re just borrowing it, or something – then quite right too. And because it isn’t really our money, we shall be given strictly limited spending money per day. The brass neck is beyond belief.

3. If you have been seditious enough in your life to actually make quite a lot of money legally, then within five days the money that was never really yours will be taken back by its rightful owners…the bankers….or the Government rescuing the bankers but without doing it in our taxes. Why five days – why not five seconds? I mean, it’s their money: we were just earning it for safe keeping, right? Of course we were.

4. Anything is an exceptional circumstance if they say it is. Even the Nazis in 1933 had to burn down the bloody Reichstag to declare a State of Emergency. In 2013, it requires just one dumb, over-leveraged, f**kwitted bank to collapse under the weight of its CEO’s ego, and we’re all pauperised by Law.

I think the time has finally come when we must give our legislators and ‘leaders’ here in the UK a gigantic kick up the jacksy. And I think the time has come for every decent organisation to mobilise even Wayne and Waynetta to GTF off the sofa and start making it clear to the scheming Wankers of Westminster that we’re not having any of this crap here in Britain.

As I tried to point out two years ago, this is no longer a political issue. This is a case of one simple rule by which decent citizens must abide: stealing things is wrong…especially when it’s done to repair your own stupid decisions in the past.

These are the questions we should address to everyone supposed to represent us, starting today:

1. To German Sloggers, demand Angela Merkel make the safety of ALL EU citizens’ bank money a solid Election pledge next month.

2. To the Christian, Jewish, Muslim and humanist leaderships of Britain: start an outcry in the media. Why aren’t you giving your parishioners more support? Where is the outcry about pilfering from innocent citizens? Where is the condemnations of illegal, amoral confiscation?

3. To the anti-EU Conservative Right, to UKip and its leader Nigel Farage, to our MEPs – especially Dan Hannan: do you realise the delayed referendum on EU membership will come far too late to stop this? When are you going to start spelling this out to your supporters and media contacts that this is now a matter of citizen survival? Why hasn’t there been uproar in the European Parliament about this? You guys talk a good game, but where’s the line in the sand?

4. To the TUC: Your members are about to be fleeced by the Co-op’s management, and stand to be ruined by the EU’s ECB-driven policy of slashing both the wages and assets of the European workforce. Can we have less political point-scoring, and more ecumenical organising action?

5. To the Labour Party leadership: show that you truly are our friend in tough times. Stop doing bloody focus groups and poncing about between the lines of bland policy statements designed to make you look harmlessly voteworthy. Come back off your holidays and take a stand – when are you going to start hounding Camerlot bigtime on this iniquitous policy? Or are you complicit in it? Please tell us.

6. To the whingers and it-won’t-make-any-difference-it’s-nothing-to-do-with-me brigade: sorry, but you just ran out of road. Like it or not, you’re involved. Start a movement now to remove every penny of current account and deposit monies from the bank. Are you a live Homo sapiens, or a braindead lobster?

The Co-operative scandal is just the beginning. They are going to take our money and leave us all penniless….at their mercy.
4  Local / Барахолка / Re: [Предзаказ] Bitfury ASIC 65nm on: July 09, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Например ввоз в Корею готовых устройств ... Чипы можно ввозить намного дешевле или бесплатно...

Платы печатные здесь делают хорошо, контрактных сборщиков электроники много. Кроме того, здесь очень хорошие условия для создания датацентров. Дешевая электроэнергия (около 5-6 центов) и аренда (100 м2 и 50кВт для небольшого центра будет стоить где-то 300-400 долларов в месяц, помещения покрупнее - еще дешевле), абсолютная безопасность в отличие от той же России. Поэтому мне представлялось что если есть инвестор, желающий вложиться в майнинг, то можно было бы организовать закупку чипов, сборку и хостинг здесь.

спасибо, ясно... Корея это хорошо Smiley все же - настоятельно рекомендую пообщаться с bitfury И партнерами, все контакты известны... уверен что у Вас получится... сборка и майнинг (безопасность!) в Корее выглядит очень симпатично Smiley успехов...
5  Local / Барахолка / Re: [Предзаказ] Bitfury ASIC 65nm on: July 09, 2013, 09:44:24 AM
Я хотел бы представлять Ваше оборудование в восточной азии, сообщение на эту тему в личку Вы проигнорировали. Нет - тоже ответ.

я конечно не bitfury но у меня были сходные с Вами мысли - и они (мысли Smiley ) прошли... почему ? отвечу как смогу, прошу считать написанное ниже моим личным мнением, возможно оно Вам (и другим) пригодится...

1. bitfury есть link и скайп, это лучший способ общения (ну разве что приехать лично если пригласит)

2. Вы наверняка читали темы

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242745.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=251160.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=251966.0

и Вы понимаете что есть сложившиеся за последние годы партнерские отношения. Что я могу добавить в уже имеющиеся отношения ? я не могу ничего существенного, а продажа где бы то ни было - дело ясное, тут нечего добавить...

3. покупка  чипов ? маловероятно до конца года, все что фабрика произведет - уже продано на предзаказах сборщикам...

4. зайти на фабрику ? приличная китайская фабрика начинает разговаривать если Вы обеспечите оборот хотя бы 10 млн в год... у меня нет свободных 2-3 млн чтобы действительно предложить bitfury что-то серьезное... да и опыт общения с китайскими заводами научил меня - пусть это делают те, кто имеет отношения...

5. представлять в ЮВА ? мне кажется Вы не сможете конкурировать с китайцами...

что бы я бы сделал на Вашем месте ? яснее изложил что Вы реально можете... поехал бы в Москву или в Польшу (или в Финляндию, куда Вам приятнее) или в сша -  поговорил бы с партнерами... кстати было бы невредно побывать и в СанХосе в мае и в Лондоне в июле... аватары всех партнеров известны...

примерно так... еще раз подчеркиваю, это мое частное мнение - как вариант ответа на Ваш пост, исходя из того что вижу по Вашим постам на форуме. Возможно Вы изложите что-то яснее...

поэтому мое личное решение - заказать, заплатить и ждать Smiley ...
6  Local / Барахолка / Re: [Предзаказ] Bitfury ASIC 65nm on: July 09, 2013, 05:17:10 AM
Вы это расскажите владельцам Авалонов и BFL, которые уже давно майнят на асиках Smiley
так я типа того Smiley тоже Smiley но вот что дальше ? на сентябрь-октябрь вариантов нет Smiley а "старую ферму" подумаю и наверно буду продавать в ноябре Smiley
7  Local / Барахолка / Re: [Предзаказ] Bitfury ASIC 65nm on: July 09, 2013, 04:48:41 AM
прочитал что успел... Smiley  подумал и решил поделиться своим мнением... вообще то вариантов нет... можно не майнить... а можно купить устройство metabank/Bitfury ... просто нет других вариантов... тем более что Метабанк вот тут понятен и "родной" а платить что-то заграницу и ждать - это просто глупость... если бы сейчас кто-то продал аналогичное - со склада - то наверно бы сел в самолет и просто полетел с налом к тому кто продаст... Smiley 
8  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe on: July 08, 2013, 03:39:31 PM
15% commission does not seem like a good deal...
obviously ... local exchange GBP BTC best way ... sure that this method is available in London
9  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe on: July 07, 2013, 02:50:06 PM
Not so good...
why not use - if you are not US citizen - UK based www.skrill.com and www.btc-e.com thru with www.lr2wm.com ?

I don't see the option to exchange from Skrill to BTC-E.

i'm not adviser, please contact https://btc-e.com/setlocale/en support AND www.lr2wm.com support - check the www.lr2wm.com/reg.php?lang2=english
i suppose btc-e support will give you the best advice possible... can transfer GBP to btc-e USD account - see screenshot below

10  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe on: July 07, 2013, 02:05:57 PM
Not so good...
why not use - if you are not US citizen - UK based www.skrill.com and www.btc-e.com thru with www.lr2wm.com ?
11  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Europe VAT and non-VAT trade on: July 07, 2013, 06:00:18 AM
Hi ! Hope this will help

need to think 2 different operations. 1) Sales within EU with VAT and 2) sales to customer outside EU and ship out outside EU by proof (you can sell to customer outside EU with VAT too and this case this is customer decision to take VAT compensation when item leave EU).

If you assemble the item within EU you warehouse keep items with VAT. If you import items and move thru custom - your item with VAT. If you import item and do not move thru custom (keeping the item within custom warehouse (special control zone or you will issue the certificate (this case you can't sell the item, just keep it)) - item without VAT. 

Let say 1 item cost 1200 VAT 200 by bookkeeping record (warehouse assets). If you ship out outside EU you need to export (custom doc is key proof of export), and the invoice will be without VAT. Export invoice cost can be (possible) 1100 VAT 0. (Just sample, need not to discuss margin in details, but in this case margin is 100 - 1100 w/o VAT - 1000 w/o VAT stock price). Company will receive payment 1100 w/o VAT. What about taxation ? You will have VAT debit EUR 200 and margin EUR 100. VAT debit your bookkeeper will record and if no further operation (VAT will balance within bookkepping of by the quarter) you will receive compensation by goverment next quarter. Margin will tax by the year total margin result (you salary and other expenses will deduct from margin Smiley so, 99% companies in Europe do not pay margin tax at all.)

OK, also you can trade without VAT if you will ship out item which are not EU custom cleared, let say EU company sell something directly from India. You will issue invoice 1100 w/o VAT and ship out 1100 w/o VAT and buy from India supplier w/o VAT 500. This case you need not custom doc, just should India shipper sent to the customer outside EU. Please, keep attention that supplier and shipper can (should) be different. But, as taxation movement, India authority will wish to have something when export from India Smiley .
12  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe on: July 06, 2013, 04:05:40 AM
If the only payment method is bitcoins, I don't understand why they tax the purchase with VAT.

VAT only applies to FIAT transactions. With Bitcoins you can avoid this tax.

This is not true, at least in my country. VAT applies to all transactions, for goods and services, no matter what the currency it was originally taken. For the purpose of VAT the value of the transaction is recalculated in the local currency, and VAT (20%) is always applied in local currency. Avoiding to pay VAT is serious offense and actively prosecuted, so sport of avoiding VAT is not even talked about in any business worth its salt.

You are wrong. Bitcoin is not a legally accepted currency.

When you operate with Bitcoins you are "exchanging" them for good and services.

Strictly speaking, you only need to pay the VAT when you convert from fiat to bitcoins, because you are buying them. Whatever transactions you do afterwards is bartering.

Do you understand now why governments hate bitcoins? It is not because of money laundering: it's because it could be legal to use them to avoid taxes tributes.

AFAIK not exactly as both above... I think need to separate few procedures.

AFAIK VAT tax will not apply to individual in general, only personal income tax. VAT tax will apply to juridical entities, if no exempt (church as charity organization for example). If VAT quarter balance is positive, you should pay VAT tax (diff = VAT credit - VAT debit).

operation can be

1. If you buy BitCoin you need not to declare nothing (VAT debit)
2. If you sell BitCoin you need to declare annual income (VAT credit). Do you remember German regulator wrote =  if you sell BitCoin once a year - this is tax exempt ?
3. If you transfer BitCoin need not to declare nothing
4. If you receive some value - let say the device - actually you need to to declare annual income (and VAT will credit if juridical entity)
5. If you ship out some value - VAT debit the same as you pay fiat money.

so, by bookkeeping point of view does not matter will you ship out or pay, the key is value movement.


For example you pay EUR 12000 August 3, show as device purchasing (does not matter, thru BitCoin or bank payment or cash, depends on what you will write to bookkeeping). Let say VAT 20%. VAT debit is EUR 2000. Let say month later you receive the device invoice price EUR 9000, VAT credit 1500. And this all till October 1 (next quarter). VAT tax is 2000 - 1500 = EUR 500 you will have VAT debit within 4 quarter.  This is sceleton of VAT tax. (By the way, you can repay VAT debit by gov). If you will receive devices total value EUR 18000 (VAT 3000) you will have VAT credit EUR 1000 and should pay VAT tax EUR 1000. VAT balance of company bookkeeping vary quarter by quarter.

CONCLUSION.
German regulators show the way http://bitcoinmagazine.com/germany-provides-leadership-for-bitcoin-tax-clarity 
Buy BitCoins. Write record as investment. Keep record more than 1 year. (No one will ask you how you actually keep the BitCoin - your wallet.dat will enough as proof, auth interesting fiat bookkeeping record only - by law)

P.S. I'm not accountant, but this is basic of taxation. You need to ask your accountant for details.

P.P.S. VAT calculation . Cost without VAT 10000. VAT 20% = 2000 Cost with VAT = 12000. Cost without VAT 20% = 7500. VAT 1500. Cost with VAT = 9000. Reverse calculation - if VAT 20% - use 6 as divider to find VAT. For example, you can use http://vatcalconline.com



13  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Bitfury is looking for alpha-testers of first chips! FREE MONEY HERE! on: June 19, 2013, 05:27:04 AM
First I would like to say that chip is working. Complete confirmation using test-vectors.

best warm wishes to you  Wink

i feel we are all now as Year 1897 when E Reserford and JJ Thomson began nuclear era
14  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: April 19, 2013, 04:54:44 AM
... before APR 16 i saw access time [73ms] [78ms]...
I'm keeping all this very seriously...

Slush, thank you ! today much better [62ms] [77ms] max [78ms]

tracert stratum.bitcoin.cz [94.23.174.94]

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1 [192.168.1.1]
  2    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  ...pool.ukrtel.net
  3    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  10.50.19.74 [10.50.19.74]
  4    44 ms    44 ms    44 ms  xe-11-1-0.bar1.Budapest1.Level3.net [212.162.26.5]
  5    55 ms    56 ms    56 ms  4.69.141.250
  6    56 ms    58 ms    55 ms  ae-73-73.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.163.6]
  7    55 ms    54 ms    55 ms  ae-2-70.edge5.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.154.73]
  8    69 ms    68 ms    68 ms  fra-5-6k.fr.eu [91.121.131.5]
  9    66 ms    66 ms    67 ms  rbx-g2-a9.fr.eu [178.33.100.254]
 10    66 ms    66 ms    66 ms  vss-2-6k.fr.eu [91.121.131.89]
 11    69 ms    69 ms   166 ms  94-23-174-94.ovh.net [94.23.174.94]

15  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: April 18, 2013, 10:55:37 AM
before APR 16 ... time [73ms] [78ms]... today [213ms]...[234ms]...
Good point... I'm preparing smart routing algorithm, which will automatically move your miner to the closest pool endpoint.
I'm keeping all this very seriously...

Slush, thank you ! i'm still with you, even i see when timing (the max i saw) [2108ms] (or [1748ms] or [1320ms]) share still accepted...
16  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: April 18, 2013, 09:03:49 AM
... and yea that is important
the tracert data below

stratum.bitcoin.cz [54.214.10.101]
  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1 [192.168.1.1]
  2    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  ...pool.ukrtel.net [...]
  3    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  10.50.19.66 [10.50.19.66]
  4    81 ms    44 ms    45 ms  xe-11-0-0.bar1.Budapest1.Level3.net [212.162.26.1]
  5   212 ms   214 ms   212 ms  4.69.141.250
  6   216 ms   217 ms   217 ms  ae-93-93.csw4.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.163.14]
  7   218 ms   218 ms   217 ms  ae-91-91.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.13]
  8   213 ms   214 ms   213 ms  ae-45-45.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.143.134]
  9   214 ms   214 ms   214 ms  ae-43-43.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.137.58]
 10   216 ms   217 ms   216 ms  ae-5-5.ebr2.Washington12.Level3.net [4.69.143.222]
 11   217 ms   217 ms   221 ms  ae-6-6.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.148.146]
 12   217 ms   217 ms   217 ms  ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.132.113]
 13   214 ms   217 ms   224 ms  ae-3-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.61]
 14   213 ms   213 ms   212 ms  ae-2-2.ebr2.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.69.132.53]
 15   390 ms   217 ms   313 ms  ae-21-52.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.69.147.163]
 16   212 ms   211 ms   212 ms  AMAZON.COM.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.53.144.74]
 17   211 ms   212 ms   211 ms  205.251.225.22
 18   222 ms   222 ms   240 ms  205.251.232.105
 19   225 ms   225 ms   267 ms  205.251.232.213
 20   220 ms   261 ms   226 ms  205.251.232.225
 21   218 ms   218 ms   220 ms  ec2-50-112-0-191.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com [50.112.0.191]
...



stratum3.bitcoin.cz [54.214.10.134]
  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1 [192.168.1.1]
  2    20 ms    22 ms    20 ms  ...pool.ukrtel.net [...]
  3    21 ms    19 ms    20 ms  10.50.19.66 [10.50.19.66]
  4    41 ms    41 ms    42 ms  dialup-212.162.26.85.frankfurt1.mik.net [212.162.26.85]
 5   212 ms   211 ms   212 ms  4.69.141.250
  6   217 ms   217 ms   217 ms  ae-93-93.csw4.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.163.14]
  7   217 ms   217 ms   217 ms  ae-91-91.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.13]
  8   213 ms   212 ms   212 ms  ae-45-45.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.143.134]
  9   213 ms   214 ms   213 ms  ae-43-43.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.137.58]
 10   213 ms   214 ms   214 ms  ae-5-5.ebr2.Washington12.Level3.net [4.69.143.222]
 11   215 ms   215 ms   215 ms  ae-6-6.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.148.146]
 12   214 ms   215 ms   214 ms  ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.132.113]
 13   213 ms   215 ms   212 ms  ae-3-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.61]
 14   210 ms   210 ms   211 ms  ae-2-2.ebr2.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.69.132.53]
 15   313 ms   251 ms   301 ms  ae-21-52.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.69.147.163]
 16   209 ms   208 ms   208 ms  AMAZON.COM.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.53.144.74]
 17   210 ms   210 ms   210 ms  205.251.225.20
 18   219 ms   219 ms   218 ms  205.251.232.103
 19   216 ms   216 ms   217 ms  205.251.232.207
 20   218 ms   217 ms   218 ms  205.251.232.225
 21   217 ms   215 ms   215 ms  ec2-50-112-0-191.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com [50.112.0.191]
17  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [8500 GH/s] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: April 18, 2013, 04:05:23 AM
Slush, you are great ! many thanks!!!

just the question... using mining_proxy-1.5.2 without any optional arguments... before APR 16 i saw access time [73ms] [78ms]... today [213ms]...[234ms]... is it important ?
18  Economy / Speculation / Re: Unlikely Bitcoin price will ever surpass $5,000 on: March 06, 2013, 08:04:43 AM
first BitCoin need to replace paypal and old fashion bank card transaction... then will see...

let say world tangible turnover of 7 bln people economics is

7 bln * 12 th = 84 000 000 000 000 only

10 mln of BitCoin can serve the 100% world people economics if 1 BTC will cost 8 400 000 US$ (10 mln BTC value 84 000 000 000 000)

so, 1 US$ will cost 0.000001 (about 1 microBTC)

but we are far away from this point Smiley
19  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it a good idea to buy Bitcoin now at $29? on: February 25, 2013, 05:43:47 AM
think of all the people sitting on stacks of 10k bitcoins ...
have no reason to sell, for what ? have other incomes too ...
20  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: FREE 0.001 Bitcoin Giveaway for Anybody Who Asks for It on: February 24, 2013, 05:41:08 AM
11xPks8MPUPUCp3RShZEMmEU7hqE6J3dL

thank you
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