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July 05, 2013, 02:16:48 AM
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We have opened a site for sales of Bitfury ASIC Chips and mining devices based on them.

We're very sorry, but the delivery is not yet available for customers outside Europe. We are working to serve other markets as soon as possible.

We are offering chips on cut-tape and reel and devices identical to the 100TH mine boards, that c-scape and intron designed.

Specifications can be found on the site. All orders are refundable 100% in EUR nominated price until shipped.

The site for sales is open now.

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July 05, 2013, 02:17:14 AM
Last edit: July 09, 2013, 08:26:40 PM by punin
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Q&A

Q: Hosting?
A: We are planning to offer hosting, but not in the near future.

Q: US Sales?
A: Site is live, try http://megabigpower.com/shop/

Q: Overclocking?
A: Theoretically yes, but this would require desoldering the regulator and voiding any warranty

Q: What is needed to run the kit?
A: You will need internet connection, ethernet cable and 12V Power supply that can provide enough power for the amount of boards you have connected to M-Card. We will announce exact power requirements when production units will be available.

Q: Heat sink?
A: This board was originally designed to be used without a heat sink. It has been tested to work without one, but is sensitive to ambient temperature. When we get the production boards and test them, we will see if one is required and how much heat sink or external fan will affect performance.

Q: How many Ghash/s per chip?
A: Demonstrated max speed of chip is 3.4GH/s with c-scape quick proto board and massive cooling. This could perhaps be further increased with even better cooling and board design. On our kits the chips are under clocked however to produce better efficiency and easier cooling.

Q: Why does it say 5GHASH on the reel. Is the chip that fast?
A: 5GHASH is the name of the device, so it's written on the reel. It's a name and our original target speed. It MIGHT be possible, but will really mean pushing the chip and board to it's limits.

Q: VAT Problems
A: There's a weird bug on the site's VAT verification plug-in. It works for some and not for others. It uses this API, where I manually checked some VAT that were sent to me, and funnily enough, it validates on the API site, but not through plug-in (that uses same API).
We are trying to solve this asap. Make sure you enter your VAT ID without ISO country code in the beginning!

If you require VAT 0% sales, please place an order and choose to pay with bitpay (but don't pay), and send message through the Contact Us form with your order # for instructions.

If you were incorrectly charged VAT it will be returned to you! Just give us some time to clean up this mess.

Q: What do I need for assembly?
A: Just your hands. No soldering required (kits). Bare chips are sold as is. There are plenty of documented open source projects for this chip on the forums.

Q: Where's the data-sheet?
A: Work in progress. We're still testing and measuring the chip. Data-sheets need surprisingly lot of work to be reliable. Lot of info can be found in this thread.

Q: Is there a reference design?
A: There's no one official reference designed released yet, but it's in the works.

Q: SEPA payments
A: Working on this. Finnish banks already supported.

Q: Company info etc
A: Company that is currently (albeit temporarily) operating BitfuryStrikesBack.com is a registered company in Finland. All operations will be transferred to a new company dedicated to this business. (We were in a hurry to start but bureaucracy in Finland is quite slow, hence I started taking orders to my old company.) I chose to keep company info private for now, because I don't want to associate it with this project. Company info will be made public, when transfer has been made.

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July 05, 2013, 02:49:59 AM
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I hereby confirm that this is fully legit and will be executed with all of our furious forces and dedication :-) Happy mining :-) From miners to miners :-) Let's kick ******flies asses :-)

I remember old days in 2012 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82941.msg914322#msg914322)
" Butterfly is still by far the best. ...." (ice_chill)
" This thread is boring, it's just speculation on a very uncompetitive product. " (ice_chill)
That was May, 2012 :-)))) Was quite long period of our happy mining with that rack and ASIC designing (for ASIC design I still thank to BFL action that they rised bets... finally I did again my first IC design and first time right :-))))

Now you can compare prices per Gh/s and be surprised that they're good and competetive.

You can also compare power usage - and found that it's not 1/2 times less of nearest competitor, but almost MAGNITUDE less... That basically means that our miners will still mine with emerging FULL-CUSTOM 28-nm chips (not the shit that kncminer now does wasting silicon - no free fish pals - use another half year and design it in a nice way :-). So what that means - that means that our miners will make you happy for quite long time, not just first rush, while other miners will likely be turned off and turned into pile of electronic garbage... Go green :-) <0.8 W / GH/s ;-))))
 
I would like also to thank those who helped me during this path of oblivion (when there was tough path of struggling with design not knowing whether it would get to this destination or no). Would like also to inspire with this story other nice people to do their brilliant projects... Requires dedication... But... If it is good - it works... Thanks.
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July 05, 2013, 03:00:45 AM
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Do you include the UK?
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July 05, 2013, 03:02:21 AM
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Do you include the UK?
Yes, UK is supported.

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July 05, 2013, 03:05:53 AM
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From which country do you send? Russia?

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July 05, 2013, 03:11:11 AM
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Any hosting service?
When will be available for countries outside EU?
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July 05, 2013, 03:12:50 AM
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From which country do you send? Russia?
Finland

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July 05, 2013, 03:34:20 AM
Last edit: July 05, 2013, 05:57:46 AM by Bicknellski
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Nice... our COOP wants some. Grin


In fact anyone in the EU with some resources who wants to join our COOP PM me. We can provide hosting of the 400 GH/s at very competitive rates.

Any flying Fins are especially welcome to join us Wink


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July 05, 2013, 04:00:07 AM
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Please consider hosting option for people outisde EU.
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July 05, 2013, 04:09:49 AM
Last edit: July 05, 2013, 04:20:15 AM by dan99
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Bitfury 55nm ASIC by Reel (October Delivery)?? This are Asic Chip??

You are selling 3000 chip for Euro 45K?/ so Euro15 per chip or $19.5?? and each chip is 5gh/s??, so 3000 x 5gh/s = 1.5TH??

Amazing, July you charge E240K x $1.30 = $312k  but October only E45K x $1.30 = $58.5 ?/ Opps this are all Euro.

$19.50 per chip of / 5gh/s = $3.90 per gh/s is very reasonable I would say.

But your full kit is expensive - 400gh/s for $9750 is $24 per gh/s.
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July 05, 2013, 04:12:57 AM
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You can expect a huge difficulty increase in these months so its logical.

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July 05, 2013, 04:24:23 AM
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You can expect a huge difficulty increase in these months so its logical.

Diff increase is prob part of the reason for the price drop, but mainly (I am assuming) the fact that they are using first gen chip sales to raise capital for larger volume orders for batch #2
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July 05, 2013, 04:25:12 AM
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With US delivery or hosting I would be very interested in 400 gh/s with August delivery.
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July 05, 2013, 04:26:28 AM
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I hereby confirm that this is fully legit and will be executed with all of our furious forces and dedication :-) Happy mining :-) From miners to miners :-) Let's kick ******flies asses :-)

I remember old days in 2012 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82941.msg914322#msg914322)
" Butterfly is still by far the best. ...." (ice_chill)
" This thread is boring, it's just speculation on a very uncompetitive product. " (ice_chill)
That was May, 2012 :-)))) Was quite long period of our happy mining with that rack and ASIC designing (for ASIC design I still thank to BFL action that they rised bets... finally I did again my first IC design and first time right :-))))

Now you can compare prices per Gh/s and be surprised that they're good and competetive.

You can also compare power usage - and found that it's not 1/2 times less of nearest competitor, but almost MAGNITUDE less... That basically means that our miners will still mine with emerging FULL-CUSTOM 28-nm chips (not the shit that kncminer now does wasting silicon - no free fish pals - use another half year and design it in a nice way :-). So what that means - that means that our miners will make you happy for quite long time, not just first rush, while other miners will likely be turned off and turned into pile of electronic garbage... Go green :-) <0.8 W / GH/s ;-))))
 
I would like also to thank those who helped me during this path of oblivion (when there was tough path of struggling with design not knowing whether it would get to this destination or no). Would like also to inspire with this story other nice people to do their brilliant projects... Requires dedication... But... If it is good - it works... Thanks.




With August delivery being offered as earliest date, can we assume that the "original" Bitfury miners sold by for example Metabank might ship as early as early/mid August as well?
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July 05, 2013, 04:28:56 AM
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With US delivery or hosting I would be very interested in 400 gh/s with August delivery.
Same. Also if someone in the EU can arrange hosting option, please let me know.
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July 05, 2013, 05:08:00 AM
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Metabank and now BFSB are both restricted to their target markets.
Anyone know why Bitfury based devices aren't easily sold to the US?
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July 05, 2013, 05:10:33 AM
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With August delivery being offered as earliest date, can we assume that the "original" Bitfury miners sold by for example Metabank might ship as early as early/mid August as well?

I think Bitfury stated that the Metabank miners could take a little longer because they were going to try to run them a bit hotter/more power which would take more work. 

The 100TH design was lower power but more chips and higher density.  Apparently that approach is a simpler and a more quickly available PCB design.
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July 05, 2013, 05:15:29 AM
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and each chip is 5gh/s??
2.7GH/sec
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July 05, 2013, 05:18:34 AM
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Has to be asked... overclocking?


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