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181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The difference between government instituted currencies and Bitcoin is huge. on: June 25, 2012, 10:30:09 AM
Look, I'll be kind because it's morning, I just woke up 30min ago, am still in a good mood after stretching my body so I'll explain it to you.

Why you don't have a point has nothing to do with the way you presented your point but everything to do with the validity of your point. Your point is invalid. Now the reason you don't think so is simple too! You lack the appropriate market regulated by strictly market consumers (i.e. free market) economics literacy. In other words you are illiterate in free market economics. And that's all there is. You just haven't learned all the economic principles most people around here know to be true not because they think so but because they test these principles over and over and over again in their daily lives and they always turn up to be true.

Now it's pointless for me to go into detail explaining what these principles are if you don't recognize your illiteracy and aren't open to learning them. If that isn't the case however you can head on over to www.mises.org and start learning, they have an amazing collection of reading material available in large part for completely free.

What material does an elephant need to learn to have the intellect to run away from shore hours BEFORE a Tsunami producing earthquake hits? See, I believe in intuition and other things. Hence I don't need to speak YOUR language to know what is true. Neither did those animals who ran from the coast hours before the earthquake. http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/08/25/strange-behavior-detected-in-animals-before-earthquake/

Everything living has a need, and that is the root. I can know instinctively when there is no root in something. I don't need to know economic jargon or any principles, although it WOULD make me some more literate as you mentioned. It's not necessary, in order for me to know the truth. Now we can end it here or I will gladly continue. I've got nothing to lose. Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps I have NO point. If so then carry on in another direction. but when it comes to mocking me, belittling my sense of understanding, or censoring my opinions.. that's when it's confirmed within me that this is a failure.
182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The difference between government instituted currencies and Bitcoin is huge. on: June 25, 2012, 10:14:22 AM
Bwahahaha Thanks for the nice laugh OP.   Roll Eyes

Yeah I'm not very good at expressing my points.. Even I cringe at my own weak attempt to express a point. but does that really mean I don't have a point? It's like a retard trying to save your life.. Wtf is he saying?? Or a dog barking trying to tell you something.. Yeah I might just be a dog barking to you but really... that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Hence for that reason, I have decided before making this thread that I would make no effort to debate. Rather just post what I feel and move on. It's not like I'm changing anything or anyone really cares about what I have to say. That's human nature. No one cares. No one is worried. Everything is arbitrary. Why things work and why they don't work doesn't matter.. Each man for himself...
183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The difference between government instituted currencies and Bitcoin is huge. on: June 25, 2012, 07:45:21 AM
When you have a problem with your US Dollar, SOMEONE is responsible.
When you have a problem with your Bitcoin, NO ONE is responsible.

"Ok" you say. "What's your point?".. **WHOA**

< snip >

There *ALWAYS* need to be someone or something responsible for everything.. Bitcoin is chaos. The United States is Chaos. Why? Because people are Chaos and do not generally look for collective solutions unless a shallow inward incentive is sold to them. A shallow interpretation of freedom is that very incentive peddled upon the ignorant majority, employed/preached in every system doomed to fail.

I'm sorry Bitcoiners.. this is not going to work out logically for you.

When you have a problem with the US Dollar, someone is responsible - but thanks to a corrupt system they'll pay a settlement fee and get back to ripping someone off.

When you have a problem with bitcoin, you probably didn't read something correctly, resulting in your losing your coins through your own incompetence. Much similar to losing your cash somewhere, except in this case a bearded idiot who has his thumb mashed on the 'print' button isn't ruining bitcoin -- just the dollar.

Bitcoin is chaos?

Chaos is blocks processed every 9 - 10 minutes? Chaos is a pre-determined supply? Chaos is $1.27 MILLION in estimated transaction volume on a dollar basis?

What color is the sky in your world, and if you can, tell us what the magical caterpillar said to you about bitcoin?

Are you completely insane?

And please note - if you had some rational, logical and procedural protest about bitcoin (protocol, etc..) I'd take you seriously. But what you wrote had the air of someone finishing a bender with their favorite hallucinogens.

I suggest you read more about what you are trying to comprehend.


I'm supposed to trust someone like you? Case in point..

Maybe you're the one hallucinating because everything you just wrote completely validates my sentiment.

In real life, not your Bitcoin world, there is a judicial system. Where is Bitcoins court? That's for starts..
184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The difference between government instituted currencies and Bitcoin is huge. on: June 25, 2012, 07:05:54 AM
The only thing similar about Bitcoin that I've seen, is **special interests** manipulating its' perception. Censorship, for example. Inhibiting the thoughts deriving from those who are not convinced.
185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The difference between government instituted currencies and Bitcoin is huge. on: June 25, 2012, 06:32:47 AM
Good job, you've identified a critical failure in Bitcoin that nobody has ever though of before.

Before the entire system collapses there's still time for you to send all your Bitcoins to the address in my signature line so they won't take you down with it.

and likewise, good job to you, for being the first person to identify the power of mocking at the truth through a false founded sarcasm based on ignorant rhetoric.
186  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / The difference between government instituted currencies and Bitcoin is huge. on: June 25, 2012, 06:22:47 AM
When you have a problem with your US Dollar, SOMEONE is responsible.
When you have a problem with your Bitcoin, NO ONE is responsible.

"Ok" you say. "What's your point?".. **WHOA**

To think I would make a thread without a point.. to troll.. to draw attention toward myself... Is that goal merely all I sought in sharing this opinion?

NOPE.

This is a HUGE observation.

BITCOIN is a currency that has NO CENTRAL AUTHORITY. This you might know, as most do, but do you know really what this implies and how this is NOT to your benefit?

Now you can respond and say I'm crazy, or you can actually think it through. Is this really better?

If government and people were ONE... the US dollar would be perfectly fine.. but BITCOIN being the solution? No I can't imagine that. I'm so sorry. You personally might be finding a use for it but that does not justify it on the level I am speaking.

Think about this: If the United States is failing, how is Bitcoin going to succeed? and why does the United States fail? because the people are failing. The very people you trust to manage their own Bitcoin based world. People will always be people! Bitcoin is no exception.

There *ALWAYS* need to be someone or something responsible for everything.. Bitcoin is chaos. The United States is Chaos. Why? Because people are Chaos and do not generally look for collective solutions unless a shallow inward incentive is sold to them. A shallow interpretation of freedom is that very incentive peddled upon the ignorant majority, employed/preached in every system doomed to fail.

I'm sorry Bitcoiners.. this is not going to work out logically for you.
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's Usefulness - So utterly apparent on: June 25, 2012, 04:08:39 AM
it hard to get bitcoins fast - bitcoins would be a bitmore usefull if you could buy them with credit cards / paypal

if you want to tranfer money to someone via bitcoins and it a weekend how do you do
bank tranfer take time
cash deposites take time(and usably closed on saturday / sunday)

this.

in the end Bitcoins are not anymore useful than what's already available in society. that's why many people see it as simply the black market currency of the internet, where illegal things become possible. so in the end what's the benefit? a legal black market that is not really practical?

plus the community acts like a bee hive.. if you're not working with them to uplift them and their idea (Bitcoin), they will harshly ridicule you even if your opinion is based on reality and constructiveness.. not that I know how bee hives work, but I know that if you look foreign, it's considered a threat, and if you linger around not sharing the same purpose (you're not a bee), you're going to get stung eventually. so I really don't like that cult mentality I see here. it's the opposite of what leads to success in anything.
188  Economy / Gambling / Re: 5Lines.NET | Success on: June 24, 2012, 08:16:02 AM
If anyone decides to sign up for Sportsbook.ag, please let me know. If I "refer" you I can get a bonus up of $250 if you deposit $1000. All you need to do is give me your name and email address.. PM me if interested. I can throw you some Bitcoins  Smiley
189  Economy / Gambling / Re: 5Lines.NET | Success on: June 23, 2012, 03:46:12 AM
Can I ask how you funded sportsbook.ag?

Visa debit card

you can read all their policies here: http://server.lon.liveperson.net/hc/s-66702201/cmd/kbresource/kb-6236271607640264129/front_page!PAGETYPE?sq=view&VisitorProfile=sportsbook.com

I'm not saying they're good yet but I like my experience so far. That might change when I want to withdraw.
190  Economy / Gambling / Re: 5Lines - Daily | Overall: Won: 79 Lost: 1 - $848.23 with only $20 bet size. on: June 23, 2012, 02:45:09 AM
btcsportsmatch and btcsportsbet.com are alright for bitcoin betting. I mean, this IS the bitcoin forum Tongue

you said they're "alright".. just wondering if there's any downsides I should watch out for. From what I saw it does the job perfect.

the only difficult part now is getting Bitcoins... seems to be more trouble than it's worth.
Not to hijack the thread, but depositing cash at a bank/CVS/7-11/Wal-Mart is the way to go. See BitInstant.com

Thanks. actually I found someone who was willing to sell me 5BTC via Paypal so I have enough now. Won .64BTC today at btcsportsbet.com on the Total Line.

and I'm up $25 overall on my Sportsbook.ag account with only $50 initially deposited 10 days ago. today alone I won $18 even using my betting method with 5Lines... yesterday lost $9 so today I bet $17 something to win exactly $18.
191  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: 5 BTC for $35 Paypal anyone? on: June 22, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
PM me. you won't lose the account if you send it as gift, and don't mention anything about bitcoins.

pm sent
192  Economy / Currency exchange / 5 BTC for $35 Paypal anyone? on: June 22, 2012, 11:05:49 AM
Though first I need to ask, am I at risk of losing my Paypal account?
193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Learning to use Bitcoins on: June 22, 2012, 09:21:22 AM
@FreeMoney        I have visited that page before I made the post , Im not interested in joining gambling clubs for coins and the others just dont work or you have to jump through 1000 hoops! for 0.00000001 coin , never mind I will probaly just buy a few coins and save my sanity

I won 1.5 Bitcoins on Sealswithclubs.eu and all I had to do was provide a username, password and my Bitcoin address. Yeah that's a real gamble.. Not! For me it was playing and earning while having fun. I guess the only "gambling" aspect is if you're not good at poker, you'd be wasting your time. Well another downside is the people are playing extremely stupid on that site for some reason because it seems like everyone wants to outdo each other in proving who can be the biggest idiot. however I've read recently, that's nature of online poker in general. (I remember seeing the same thing when I played $25 of my real money years ago.) It's fun until you start getting tired of the cheap things people do on the tables. It has been said that playing stupid gives you a short term advantage in poker and unfortunately that seems to be what they're doing in there, but still, I can't think of anywhere else where I could have made 1.5 Bitcoins from nothing. You spoke in a manner that paints it out to be some sort of gimmick which is entirely not the case from my experience. I've been playing there for two weeks now. It's just for fun until you begin taking it too seriously.
194  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bit-Pay introduces "Touch to Pay" for mobile and desktop wallets on: June 22, 2012, 08:04:48 AM
thinking it would be cool if there was a worldwide taxi system using bit coins. when I saw this page --> https://bit-pay.com/limocoin.html

yep, it works really smooth and fast.  The cabbie gets the payment alert and then he's off driving the next customer.  The processing and currency conversion and bank transfers are all automated.  It's nice!

the customer pays first?

would be neat if you could setup some sort of page to really initiate it. like for example, Bob in Chicago wants to taxi people for Bitcoins. you provide a purchasable web template which is used with your software. and it's connected to a Bitcoin taxi network.. I know, I'm not articulating this very clearly. we really got to work together in this community. bring ideas and know-how together.. then implement this world free of big brother (or should we just say BIG LIAR) taking his undue share.
195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Bit-Pay introduces "Touch to Pay" for mobile and desktop wallets on: June 22, 2012, 06:59:23 AM
thinking it would be cool if there was a worldwide taxi system using bit coins. when I saw this page --> https://bit-pay.com/limocoin.html
196  Economy / Gambling / Re: 5Lines.NET | Success on: June 21, 2012, 02:19:55 AM

I was looking at stats today.. 90% of the sports bettors loose money.. Ridgemont4, welcome to the winning 10%!

Thanks. I did read that the other day but the source was not very credible. It was another site like 5lines (was wondering if there was anything else like it out there). However I would agree that most lose.. I believe 5Lines.net is providing the successes and I really hope they continue to put in the effortSmiley
197  Economy / Gambling / Re: 5Lines.NET | Success on: June 21, 2012, 12:28:58 AM
hooray for the 5lines total line.. my system with them is winning today. odds of losing a series 1 in 5.
yesterday bet $6 and lost. today bet $12 and will win $12 + $9.60. Tomorrow betting $7. just letting you know Einewton, I like my setup.
how's everyone else doing..?

as for BTCSportsBet.com, they are hesitant to lower the minimum bet but they did lower it to .50 for me... If you got bitcoins I say go for it.
198  Economy / Gambling / Re: 5Lines.NET | Success on: June 20, 2012, 05:55:54 AM
Oh, sounds great.
I don't usually bet Baseball, so if I do buy the subscription, it'll be in September.

Thanks for the info.

Yeah, They where doing NBA for the first month, then MLB took over.... You'll make back today's loss bud..

Only thing I don't like about BTCSportsBet.com is the minimum bet, 1 BTC. also due to that fact I haven't been able to bet there yet.

Have you tried to contact them to lower your min-bet? In the past, i've seen Books lower it to "try out".

Wasn't sure if it was worth trying. I did after your suggestion, requesting that they lower the minimum to .10 I'll let everyone know what the answer is if they answer. Would be really nice if they would do it.
199  Economy / Gambling / Re: 5Lines.NET | Success on: June 20, 2012, 04:55:53 AM
Let me know how their payouts are... I'd love to have a online betting casino when I have to visit the inlaws... haha

Only thing I don't like about BTCSportsBet.com is the minimum bet, 1 BTC. also due to that fact I haven't been able to bet there yet.
200  Economy / Gambling / Re: 5Lines - Daily | Overall: Won: 79 Lost: 1 - $848.23 with only $20 bet size. on: June 19, 2012, 03:58:48 PM
btcsportsmatch and btcsportsbet.com are alright for bitcoin betting. I mean, this IS the bitcoin forum Tongue

I've looked at a few, and their lines where very unreasonable... But dude, I haven't looked at BTCSportsBet.com, that one looks sweet, and very reasonable, and close to mainstream vegas lines....

I'd start doing that if I didn't have a local casino.

EDIT: Alltho, They might go under if we keep winning like we are... I'm watching another forum, where there's a guy that's using 5Lines, using $70 and the high roller for only a week, and he's made over 1,000... IN a freak'n WEEK... That might hurt some of these smaller BTC places...

Indeed, btcsportsbet.com looks good.. so good that I spent all night earning bitcoins on sealswithclubs.eu, in order to fund my account. LMAO
I earned 400 chips which = .40 bitcoins. not bad eh? considering that was off winning one 50 chip freeroll and taking that to 400 chips on other tables.

I'm on there again to earn more BTC's. Unfortunately deposits don't seem to instantaneously fund to btcsportsbet so I'll play some poker to keep my mind at ease.

edit: well now it seems to be credited so everything is looking good with btcsportsbet.com so far.
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