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1021  Economy / Speculation / Re: When to hit $10,000? on: July 20, 2016, 03:07:41 AM
In the long term, the bitcoin price will be much better than the stock market. The stock market cannot rise 10 times in the next 5 years.

You have a point there, since Bitcoin increase its price so high compared to stock market but stocks Is also a good investment but Bitcoin surpasses it in terms of price increase. It has the potential to rise even 20x in future.

No increase in the price of bitcoin need processes and any indirect prices rise high. To reach the $ 10,000 figure would require a very long time. It could be shorter if bitcoin user adoption and increasingly so bitcoin be active. I'm sure if bitcoin continues to experience growth will definitely reach it someday.
1022  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: July 20, 2016, 03:02:14 AM
It is hard to say what Bitcoin is going to be like in 2020 but I am sure that not much is going to change except for the price.
What the price is going to be is what I do not know but it has to be high.

Bitcoin is very unpredictable because of fluctuating every time. There may be some changes of bitcoin in order to develop better. And for the price I also hope that the price will be higher and better than now.
1023  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: July 19, 2016, 04:12:27 AM
Winning A Jackpot!  Shocked this is my plan.. not sure if i can win but... maybe one day i will be rich

This is a 1% out of 100% chance on your plan to get rich. It is better if you are not going to hope for the gambling to get rich.
Because instead of becoming rich you are just going to become poorer there.
Start to plan out a legit one and do it with yourself.

Yes true to profit and become wealthy in a very risky gambling. Because gambling is a game that relies on luck. If we win we will get a lot but if we lose we will lose a lot. It may not be appropriate if you want to collect bitcoin of gambling because it is just a game.
1024  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 19, 2016, 04:07:39 AM
Problem with gambling is people that can't control it, and waste a lot of money that they need. If you play some bits and you stop when you lose it isn't a problem. If you lose all and start thinking about taking a loan to play more and recover from loses you have a big problem.
yeah it is a problem for many players they will begin to uncontrollable gambling when they start losing their gambling games. It also happened to me, when I started to lose maybe I'll bet a larger amount and maybe using max bet. yeah i cannot control it
Yeah same here i tried any methods testing large amount test low amount of bet but all methods are didnt work..
I think almost all not live games are 10% chance to win..

I think the one who enjoy gambling is the only one winning. Oneself could always lose in gambling because that is what people think you can earn a lot money in gambling and in the end it is only a waste of time and money start to think it as an entertainment and we'll see how is the difference.
That depends if you are more into fun you are a winner even if you lose your money in gambling, but for those who gamble for money they look for a profit in gambling which very hard to achieve and that would come to their mind that gambling is wrong.
Yes true if we gamble to get money is wrong because bitcoin is not able to find the money well. Bitcoin is a game that can be won and lost so heavily dependent on the luck factor. So gambling is a game to have fun and not for profit.
1025  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to motivate women to use Bitcoin? on: July 19, 2016, 04:01:10 AM
Make bitcoin mainstream and associate it with girl things is a way to do it!

Yes buying girly things with the use of bitcoin for sure will going to motivate them in using bitcoin. Just like let them use your funds in bitcoin for shopping their girly kits.
For sure they are going to love it and going to ask how to earn bitcoin and going to put some interest into it.
Yes but it is not easy for most women if we give him bitcoin only use only. Maybe it would be better to explain in advance in order to understand and tell them how to make money here.
1026  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: July 19, 2016, 03:59:18 AM
I am not rich from gambling and I never think that I am going to be rich from gambling because I do not even gamble that much.
If you want to become rich then you need to spend allot of money and make high bets.
That is why there is no free money in gambling, it takes money to make money in gambling and only those who have a decent bankroll will have a chance to win in gambling.
Yes but it is the same we will also lose money because of gambling is luck. Bitcoin is a game although we will win a lot if betting a lot of it is just luck. Definitely we will defeat also so that benefits are not many.
1027  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: July 18, 2016, 05:38:00 AM
Bitcoin wallet is safer than having any money in a bank. They are thieves themselves with your money. Using it for offshore dealings. And not to forget about the bank fees  Roll Eyes

Yes indeed bank incurred more costs than bitcoin. But in my opinion is more secure than bitcoin bank because the bank could menjadim our money safe so that the money may not be lost. While in bitcoin wallet no collateral and many scammers that steal our bitcoin. Each has advantages and disadvantages. But in my opinion, the banks and bitcoin wallet has an important role.
1028  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to motivate women to use Bitcoin? on: July 18, 2016, 05:29:42 AM
Just give up, never try to persuade thing that other person don't understand, everything comes by time, you only can suggest that to do, but if that person can't understand that you want, give up...

I agree on that. You can not make someone do the thing you want them to unless they themselves understand about it. You shouldn't force someone to do something they don't feel like. Talking about bitcoins many people don't know about and quite not interested but with time they will eventually have to deal with it.

It will have to come from them self, giving them bitcoins maybe the wrong approach. It would be better to let them experiment with bitcoin.
When they like it, they will buy it themself.

True if we only give to women bitcoin they would use only and not in how to get it. Perhaps the most easily tell what is bitcoin and encourage them to be active in this forum. I'm sure they will be more understanding and interested.
1029  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2017 Year of the Bitcoin on: July 18, 2016, 05:17:12 AM
I think every day is bitcoin day. Bitcoin can  survived everyday since it was created so therefore there's no specific year for bitcoin. Many users are using bitcoin and many are still believing.  Every year would be bitcoin's Year.  Grin Grin

Well you are right with it, every day is bitcoin day. Therefore every year is really going to be bitcoins year all year round.
Because every year there's always something good happening with bitcoin that's why many people are keep on using bitcoin and developments.


Yes hopefully bitcoin will continue to grow and prices will continue to rise. I believe 2017 will be better than this year because there would be more people who join the bitcoin and profit here.
1030  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: July 18, 2016, 04:56:42 AM
If bitcoin's use expands and investments from VC's keep coming and keep getting bigger then I could see bitcoin to be above $1000 easily. I really believe bitcoin will be a big part of our future and you think it will go down? I don't think so, there's no other way but up for btc and some cryptocurrencies.
The bitcoin market price can go above $1000 if we see a bubble because of the block halving and bubbles are bad for bitcoin.

It will be more the 1000 in 2020 but this may not be true
We are still few days from halving so this is only speculation

Very true indeed very difficult to guess the price of bitcoin as surely fluctuated every time. Very difficult to guess the price of bitcoin. But I believe in 2020 the price of bitcoin will be better and will continue to grow.
1031  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: July 17, 2016, 04:54:51 AM
maybe in future the bank will lost due to popularity of bitcoins because you can easily store money in your bitcoin wallet without decreasing your money and stable transaction not like in the bank.

Yes I agree if the bank can indeed lost its popularity because bitcoin. I think we could have reduced the value of money in bitcoin, for example if the price of bitcoin down the value of our money is going down but its bitcoin number will remain the same, right?
So the conclusion bitcoin and banks have advantages and disadvantages of each, but I think the bank will not disappear as long as we are still using the fiat: D

Not even if the price of bitcoin down it does not affect the price of money in reality. If the price of bitcoin dropped it because of fluctuations and at a very reasonable bitcoin if fluctuate. Banks will not lose its popularity because it would always be updated. Banks will not be made disappear by bitcoin.
1032  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to motivate women to use Bitcoin? on: July 17, 2016, 04:47:54 AM
just tell to her that with bitcoin you can buy clothing Grin
I think it is old but gold method I sometimes managed to make my female friends interesting with bitcoin. I just say that I bought this shirt or clothing with bitcoin on the internet. and I have got her interested by saying that "what is bitcoin?"
tested by me


Yes it can make a woman interested in bitcoin because they can buy something. If they are interested they would try to use bitcoin. To motivate women to use bitcoin my opinion is different because women have their own interest.
1033  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: July 17, 2016, 04:43:56 AM
2020 is 4 years from now.

In 2012, could you predict the current situation?

I won't even try
It is very difficult to predict in 2020 because it was still long. Moreover bitcoin crypto also experiencing fluctuations so it is impossible to predict in advance. But I hope the year 2020 will develop well bitcoin.
1034  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2017 Year of the Bitcoin on: July 17, 2016, 04:41:27 AM
2017 if this year of the Bitcoin, Wow..lucky to all member who hold or have a Bitcoins on 2017.
Maybe it becomes more popular than this year, and some of the other countries are more aware in bitcoins I think. Smiley

I believe it also the the year of 2017 is going to be the year of bitcoin as it is going in the trend. And the halving did happened this year 2016.
So the result of it we are going to experience it for next year.
And it is going to be the year of bitcoin in the year 2017.
yes you are right that 2017 is the year of bitcoin and its more good for bitcoin users that occur of halving in 2016 then i hope so that bitcoin will more increase its price too much faster in the next year than 2016 .
Yes in 2017 bitcoin will increase and expand. I'm sure there will be more people using bitcoin as an investment and payment methods. Bitcoin prices also I'm sure it will be better than this year.
1035  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: July 16, 2016, 05:53:43 AM
I would choose to use bitcoin wallet and have all my money as bitcoins though bitcoin price is really fluctuating.
to me both have their own importance we cannot ignore the importance of any one. if we have bitcoin in our wallet and the price increase and at some level you realize to sell the bitcoin then where will you put your money in wallet as Dollar and then if you want withdraw it then what will you do you have to use bank to withdraw it.
Absolutely we need both. Both the bank and very useful bitcoin wallet respectively. We can benefit from bitcoin and store in the wallet. And we also can use the bank to save our money and deal in reality. I think both are desperately needed. And in fact many bitcoin users who have a bank account.
1036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 16, 2016, 05:49:34 AM
everyone has their own opinion. when he decided to play gambling then he has to know the various risks. gambling is not wrong, just like any other game of gambling. but gambling playing with risking the money we have.
What I know is gambling is very risky but can never be wrong, the gambler itself is the only wrong person if they cannot manage gambling properly because that would destroy their lives if they will become greedy in gambling.
Bitcoin is actually only game to have fun. But bitcoin could be wrong if we are greedy and to addiction. Because it will waste a lot of our bitcoin. Perhaps the opinion of people in gambling is different because each person has different luck.
1037  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to motivate women to use Bitcoin? on: July 16, 2016, 05:27:33 AM
just tell to her that with bitcoin you can buy clothing Grin
Yes but necessary process again because I'm sure if she was interested but could not use it useless. Explain just about bitcoin and invite her active in this forum and follow the signature campaign.
1038  Economy / Speculation / Re: When to hit $10,000? on: July 16, 2016, 04:43:10 AM
i think bitcoin increase its price to $10,000 after too longer time because nowadays bitcoin price is in under $1000 so it take long time mean it will take 10 years or 15 years .


Yeah we should be mentally prepared that it will take at least 10 years to achieve that price and may be even more but not possible to touch that price before that time frame.
well im really prepared to wait a long time in order to see the bitcoin grow to the new heights, that would be really cool and it would make me good money so i can wait i think

With the price movement right now, reaching $10,000 per bitcoin is not yet possible...even if we cross the $1000, we are still far from reaching that goal, even after 2020...So I think we won't be seeing that price soon...

I feel like bitcoin can't be predicted but that it's a pretty safe bet that the bitcoin as a whole will continue to rise in cap, first it may reach the target $1000 then within 8 to 10 years it may hit $10k.
Bitcoin is very difficult to predict because every time always fluctuated. Bitcoin price contingent upon the state of bitcoin growth and market prices. To reach the $ 10,000 figure takes a very long time because it is still very far away, while increasing the price of bitcoin takes time. That will happen in the next 20 years.
1039  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: July 15, 2016, 03:46:05 AM
I think that bitcoin price per piece will be from 2000 to 5000$ er piece because bitcoin price is growing now really slow and halving bitcoin price per piece will be more often in future 100% I am really sure.

Yeah anything between $2000 to $5000 is possible to achieve in next 4 years, as we will see many new companies will get into bitcoin which will take price to higher level.
It is very difficult to guess the price of bitcoin as it will always fluctuate. But I hope that the price of bitcoin could achieve these levels and could benefit me. I believe bitcoin prices will always go up and progressing. In the year 2020 there will be more people and companies are more familiar with bitcoin and adopt it.
1040  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: July 15, 2016, 03:42:51 AM
I think i choose bank because nothing can say that bitcoin is stable in there price or getting dump. But in bank if you have a million monthly interest is big you see your profit monthly. But in bitcoin how many months or years getting price is higher so that if you have a big money i think use bank for your safety also and get good profit
But I think both are very good and can be put to good use. Bitcoin wallet we can use bitcoin temporary store and can be used for investment. We could benefit from fluctuations in bitcoin. Then we use the bank for long-term storage in order to secure money, but bitcoin should be be cashed in advance. I love like a function of the bank and bitcoin wallet.
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