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1161  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: paypal or bitcoin? on: June 15, 2016, 08:16:10 AM
What are your opinions on paypal or bitcoin for online shopping?

They're basically the same when you're only talking about shopping, both pp and btc via bitpay get confirmed instantly.
The main difference to buyer/holder is that paypal can limit your account and freeze your money, where with bitcoin that cant happen.

i would say people use the paypal because there will always be people are interested in the paypal because the bitcoin is to new and untrustable.
Yes maybe it was also affected. That bitcoin is still new and still little is adopting bitcoin, while PayPal has a very long and already many are familiar with paypal as a payment via the Internet. Maybe if bitcoin could thrive will surely could be better. But in the transaction process and I favor the ease of bitcoin. And I prefer to use bitcoin.
1162  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: paypal or bitcoin? on: June 14, 2016, 05:41:39 AM
I'm going for them both, I really cannot choose I like them both and they both have their own nice advantages right ?
Very true indeed both have their respective advantages. But I personally prefer the bitcoin because I prefer to ease in bitcoin. While in paypal is very difficult and I still do not understand about paypal.
1163  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: June 14, 2016, 05:19:24 AM
My plan to get rich is simply by just holding the bitcoin for a long term if you are asking me, its one of the best things you can do right now also.
The price is rising a lot!


I think that it's a bit greedy, you can fail with this waiting so be carefull, cause many people who will not sell it in time , will lose theirs money for sure.

Of course there is the right time for holding a very long time and there is a right time to be satisfied with the price. And he's plan is not new either.
Those bitcoin millionaires is this is what they did, they have stored thousands of bitcoins to their wallet and just save it their because price increase
will happen and they know it and now they are harvesting their wait.
Yes as it does now if people keep their bitcoin of 2015 may now they've got a lot of advantages because bitcoin prices are rising and so far from last year. That could make them rich. But if do not forget to try harder in order to earn more.
1164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ? How To Respond To Someone Who Is Anti Bitcoin ? on: June 14, 2016, 05:16:15 AM
What is the best way to respond to someone who is anti bitcoin?

For example, you are at a party or other social gathering or on a non-bitcoin related forum online. Your friends may be there as well as other mixed company. The subject of bitcoin comes up and there is that person or persons who pipe in with the usual: bitcoin is a ponzi, scam, not real currency, fake money, used by criminals and terrorists, will never become anything, will crash and become worthless, not secure, etc, etc and on and on.

If it is obvious they are truly against bitcoin, as opposed to someone who is just skeptical and unsure about bitcoin as many are, what would be the best approach. Should you even bother trying to address and refute each of their points? Would you do so more for the sake of others present who might be interested in a pro-bitcoin viewpoint? And if so, how would you go about it without appearing like a total fanboy or becoming unhinged and losing your cool?

Anyone have any ideas or can share their experiences with this situation in real life or on other non-bitcoin related forums? Mostly responding to someone truly anti-bitcoin when other people or members of a forum may be present or listening/reading as well.

I actually never experienced this kind of thing. probably it's good not to respond what they say because they don't understand. just prove them that you can buy things with bitcoin.
Absolutely I also have never encountered anything like it. Should we leave it alone and ignore this. Because maybe if we respond he will feel happy and continue to do the act.
1165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: June 14, 2016, 05:01:49 AM
If btc continue to rise you will earn a lot in next 20 days not 20 year just
Seem every weekend we have increase in price
Yes very true and if the increase continued in 2020 definitely bitcoin prices are very high and very good for us all. I believe bitcoin will continue to increase and will continue to develop well over time until 2020 and beyond.
1166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 14, 2016, 04:57:39 AM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin

Gambling... it sucks. Like drugs you should not try it.
Yeah it is like a drug if you get addicted to it but I would not say that it is wrong. There are enough people that are not addicted to gambling and now when it is enough and to stop playing.
How it can not be wrong when you yourself have found some addicted gamblers. I believe from the experience of other gamblers, leaving of gambling is not that much simple as addiction is the big problem of gambling. That is the reason we make a conclusion to consider gambling as wrong.
Yes, leaving gambling after got addiction, must be a very tough and struggling task.
I guess no one could be successful in the process of quitting gambling after addiction. He has to struggle as much as equal to making money from gambling.
Well i am one of the successful quiting in gambling i change my hobby just to play online games which is doata 2 or league of legends it gives me thrill the same as feelings in gambling.. now i am not thinking to play ang gamble again..
I think that is better that playing online games like dice and roulette, in that way you can improve your skills which might lead you to potential profit in the future if you can master the way of winning.
Yes gamble like that really need luck because the results are directly determined. But I think the gamble could be better used with the only aim to play not to get bitcoin.
1167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: June 13, 2016, 01:05:01 PM
No, gambling is not a source of becoming rich or earning money, but it is for entertainment and people should have to k=join it only for fun not for money.

Yup, it is very true that gambling is not a good source of earning money. However, there are some people who are professional in pokers where having good skills will raise the chances of winning greatly increase.
Yes very true gambling is not one source to get bitcoin. Because gambling is just a game that allows us to win or lose. But if you win we can get a lot of bitcoin and maybe it could be rich, but if we are too greedy it's only temporary.
1168  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: paypal or bitcoin? on: June 13, 2016, 12:53:26 PM
Bitcoin! I have very unpleasant experience with PP in last 3-4 years with a lot of charge-backs form users after they get what they ordered. And even I have tracking shipping numbers and many more, PayPal usually are f*cking seller and protecting scammers.
I would still choose Paypal over Bitcoin because of the fact that you can use Paypal at more online webshops then Bitcoin. It is true that you can use Bitcoin at more and more webshops.
Yes it really was bitcoin is still new so it is still less than paypal is adoption. But I'm sure it'll come bitcoin will be more advanced. In terms of ease and get a very good bitcoin than paypal. I prefer bitcoin because bitcoin is very easy.
1169  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: June 13, 2016, 12:40:33 PM
For now, my plan in holding all my bitcoin until the halving come. Because i'm sure the bitcoin's price will increase and if it happen, i will get rich by it.
Not enough with it to become rich with bitcoin. Need to work hard very earnest in order to get a lot of bitcoin. There are many easy methods that we can try to get bitcoin should we try.
maybe you're right. waiting is good, but it probably will not be enough to make you become rich, maybe you should learn to play the trade, because trade can make you rich
People really get rich in trading whether it is fiat or bitcoin. But trading also requires hard work and dedication. YOu cannot just start trading without going thru training and doing some hard stuffs. So if you really want to get rich, do trading but be ready with training and frustrations that you have to deal with. But don't worry, it is all worth it.
Indeed, trade could make us get a lot of advantages and become rich, because trade is very good for us. But it is true of trade must have the means and not the origin is used. Not only trade, other means are also the same. Provided we want to try hard for sure we will get a lot of ways that any method.
1170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: June 13, 2016, 12:17:41 PM
I began my career in the bictoin . In 2010 the bitcoin was worth 0.01 euro , now a bitcoin worth 400 euros. I ask myself a question: what will be its value in 2020 ?.

A friend told me that its value will be 10,000 euros. Shocked

Sorry for the spelling for I am french . Wink

Thank you for your replies Smiley

well i actually think these things : bitcoin will be very popular than now, so this means that more stores will accept it and more people will use it, so price will be larger too

i think that in 4 years price will rise to 1500$, not more probably but may be even less than that actually if there will be many price drops or panic waves in near future

$ years is a long term. I expect the price to go up a lot by then. In case it doens't it will be of a lack of adoption, which basically we as an community are to blame for.
It is possible for the price to be higher then now in 2020 but we do not know for sure if the price is going to be higher. We only expect that it is going to be good for us.
Absolutely we do not know will reach Which bitcoin prices in 2020. But I'm sure the prices will certainly rise. I hope in 2020 bitcoin will be increasingly easier for users to be able to get profit.
1171  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2017 Year of the Bitcoin on: June 13, 2016, 12:00:08 PM
We just need more demands for Bitcoins and need for it to go more mainstream. The acceptance by STEAM is a good start. Bitcoins are a little geeky.

Need to focus on the mainstream audience and let them know about BTCs - When I talk about mainstream, I am talking about the people who know what is Amazon, eBay and Paypal and they are the users of such services.

Right now, we are just a bunch circle-jerking to each other's fantasies. lol

Big online merchants already receives such request of adding bitcoin as payment method but demands are not that much.

Most bitcoin users uses bitcoin as an investment so in here it will not much use even big merchants add it as their payment method.

Very true but I believe in 2017 the price of bitcoin will definitely improve and it will go up. Will many people using bitcoin to benefit so that bitcoin is more lively.
1172  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: June 12, 2016, 07:28:08 AM
Bitcoin Wallet - If you're confident that the price gonna rise and rise.

Bank - If you want your money to be stable and earn some interest on it.

You can't always rely on bitcoin, if the price drops when you think it'll rise, you'll just get panic and sell at cheaper price and end up losing.
Bitcoin wallet and each bank has a role. Bitcoin wallet can be used to store bitcoin, Whereas banks used to make bitcoin into money. Everything we often use in transactions.
1173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: June 12, 2016, 07:17:50 AM
I am not rich because of gambling and that is because it will be really hard to win some profit with gambling and you have to be lucky with gambling and that happens not that often that you can earn some profit with it.
But I just gamble because I like it to do and that is all, and not be rich of it.

It is a matter of chance if you will win in such gamble, however lottery is a kind of gamble to and  I heard lot of person win from those from T.V and Radio.
I tried to gamble a few times, never have luck, it might be on mindset of a person.
That is true, only lottery can give you a chance to be rich in gambling because I am pretty sure if the you hit millions you will quit gambling completely and focus on putting up a business. Chances are really low to hit but if you are lucky enough you can hit it in no time.
Yes indeed, but most people want to try again and end up losing again. Probably better to think of gambling as a game and only to happy happy alone. It gets better.
1174  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2017 Year of the Bitcoin on: June 12, 2016, 06:54:29 AM
with the recent price rises to $500 and the today's price rise to $622 it looks like 2016 is the year of bitcoin.

it has already begun with a good rise and gave many of us a very good amount of profit and all of this will only increase publicity for bitcoin which is all good for it.

It ll all depend on the results of halving. If BTC price does not go and up and it does not get matched by alts prices going up in a few months after halving, if there will be no increased public interest in BTC then there is no great year for cryptocurrencies.
Yeah right price also depends on the user bitcoin and circumstances. But I'm sure in 2017 bitcoin will be developed from the current year. I hope that year bitcoin prices will rise.
1175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: June 12, 2016, 06:44:22 AM
I began my career in the bictoin . In 2010 the bitcoin was worth 0.01 euro , now a bitcoin worth 400 euros. I ask myself a question: what will be its value in 2020 ?.

A friend told me that its value will be 10,000 euros. Shocked

Sorry for the spelling for I am french . Wink

Thank you for your replies Smiley

well i actually think these things : bitcoin will be very popular than now, so this means that more stores will accept it and more people will use it, so price will be larger too

i think that in 4 years price will rise to 1500$, not more probably but may be even less than that actually if there will be many price drops or panic waves in near future

$ years is a long term. I expect the price to go up a lot by then. In case it doens't it will be of a lack of adoption, which basically we as an community are to blame for.
I think it would really happen, maybe in four years, bitcoin will be developed into a technology that can help the government. it automatically makes bitcoin price rises, and even more than $ 1,500 for one bitcoin
Yes, but it also must have the approval and cooperation of the government. And what about the countries that ilegalkan bitcoin? I do not know how but I think this is very suit. But I believe 2020 will be a rapidly growing bitcoin.
1176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 11, 2016, 03:41:43 AM
Its all wrong when youre already addicted to it..gambling is good when you win and earm some profit anfd you will stop and play again the other day.. wise gamblers decision..
You are right. if the player became addicted then it all goes wrong because you cannot control yourself anymore and the worse is, even you always lose you are still eager to play. the player itself is the problem.
Very true to play in no limit gambling and should not be excessive. Because gambling is a game that could have lost or won. If someone is addicted doomed to defeat because of his win percentage is very small. Gambling is just a game is not the place to get bitcoin.
1177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ? How To Respond To Someone Who Is Anti Bitcoin ? on: June 11, 2016, 03:31:21 AM
I ignored them because there must be something like bitcoin. If we tell them to explain why did not like and make them into like I think it's very difficult. There are several factors that make them not like bitcoin.
1178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2020 on: June 11, 2016, 03:24:28 AM
bitcoin in 2020 will rely very heavily on fee because the reward will be very low, only 6.25 coins per block, so fee must be higher, and the price will be higher too, i mean fee in $ value will be higher not in satoshi, just to be clear

yup, fees will get more and more important. but if the price continues to go up from todays levels, to let's say $1500-$2000 in 2020, then miners will still get a decent amount for finding blocks. but at this point we don't have to worry about much higher fees yet.
Absolutely, I also believe 2020 will be better known bitcoin and more people are adopting bitcoin for online payment transactions. I hope at that time there will be many ways to get bitcoin and easier.
1179  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: June 11, 2016, 03:19:20 AM
You cant get rich with bitcoin anymore, u can through smart investments in promising alternative crypto projects, very few of them btw. ethereum, the dao, waves.
I think probably continue to collect bitcoin could make us rich. Perhaps the rich dose of each person is different and nothing is the same. I myself consider my bitcoin as additional income, and I am satisfied with whatever I get from bitcoin.
1180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: June 11, 2016, 02:46:37 AM
I am not rich because of gambling and that is because it will be really hard to win some profit with gambling and you have to be lucky with gambling and that happens not that often that you can earn some profit with it.
But I just gamble because I like it to do and that is all, and not be rich of it.

Yes very true gambling games simply because there is winning and losing. For rich with gambling it could be because if we win we can get a lot bitcoin. But if we lose we could lose a lot of bitcoin. It is the luck factor. But it is very difficult to become rich with bitcoin.
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