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1  Economy / Lending / Re: [LOAN] Need 50BTC For 30 Days on: January 19, 2016, 07:19:08 AM
Anyone who is interested can PM me!
Thank you everyone :-)
2  Economy / Lending / Re: [LOAN] Need 50BTC For 30 Days on: January 19, 2016, 07:17:41 AM
everyone please stop bumping this thread.

Probably the OP isnt even here anymore.

Anyone stupid enough to loan this guy 50 BTC
deserves to lose them.


I am here.
Thank you.
3  Economy / Lending / Re: [LOAN] Need 50BTC For 30 Days on: January 19, 2016, 07:16:58 AM
Dude if you are REALLY looking for that loan, you should get it from the bank. Posting a request here just means you are trying to scam. The fact that you are replying to every single comment leads me to believe you are a troll with no life. You might as well close this thread, you are simply creating spam at this point there is no way you will get this loan.

Stop wasting your time here mate.

Thank you, man.
4  Economy / Lending / Re: [LOAN] Need 50BTC For 30 Days on: January 19, 2016, 07:16:09 AM
Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.

- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Litecoin (also written as LTC).  Coins must be moderately traded on multiple exchanges.
- Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it.
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.  Try localbitcoins.com


Thanks for letting me know.
5  Economy / Lending / Re: [LOAN] Need 50BTC For 30 Days on: January 19, 2016, 07:15:18 AM
Well, i do not know if the purpose behind this is real or not but, borrowing 50BTC which is equiv. to $21,630 USD according to preev.com [dated: 14.01.2015] is suspicious especially when you are a jr.member on this forum.

Why not start by borrowing 15 BTC with a verifiable collateral instead of request to borrow 50 Btc? no bank will grant such loan request without collateral or good working contract.

Thanks

Thank you too.
6  Economy / Lending / Re: [LOAN] Need 50BTC For 30 Days on: January 19, 2016, 07:14:29 AM
wtf,this is most dumb person ive ever seen
50 btc is a huge money,even your life is enough to repay that incase you cannot pay it.
what comes on your mind and make this decision?are you in drugs?

Yeah, I am dumb.
Thank you.
7  Economy / Lending / Re: [LOAN] Need 50BTC For 30 Days on: January 19, 2016, 07:13:15 AM
give this man a medal -16 wow in less than a month

i guess super HOT red flames will soon appear

Thanks!
8  Economy / Lending / Re: [LOAN] Need 50BTC For 30 Days on: January 07, 2016, 02:58:06 PM
Offer is still on...!
9  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 27, 2015, 05:35:18 PM
I don't understand what is wrong with your thinking. You are asking for 50BTC, okay count them all the way from one to fifty. 50BTC is $22,800 (U.S.D), you are asking random people you have never met in your life and will never meet again for almost $23,000. Do you think anyone will give this you? Then the argument is I am not thief because I haven't stolen any money here yet, well no one here trusts you to give you that money. After you take that money, you are a thief, but no one will give you money to steal so you are not a thief. So you are just a person requesting a large sum of money because you don't have any money. So finally, the answer is no. You made a stupid request and you just don't understand.
Debating with him is useless, he's just gonna keep saying "But you don't have proof, you can't call me a scammer hurr durr"
I think we should just let this topic dead and ignore him because there is no way he will admit he was wrong Tongue

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Debating with him is useless
Because you know that i am right.
10  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 24, 2015, 09:08:32 AM
Nope, it's not Trust abuse. Anyone can leave whatever they want as feedback, especially if they are leaving as a warning for suspected thieves. The key is to make sure it isn't frivolous feedback resulting in the dilution of your own reputation.
Your continued posturing for "proof of scam" is a red herring.

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Anyone can leave whatever they want as feedback
That's where the abuse comes in. They can ruin anyone's reputation without any reason.

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especially if they are leaving as a warning for suspected thieves
Why call him "thief" if he is a "suspected thief" ?
What is the reason that you are suspecting him to be a thief.

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Your continued posturing for "proof of scam" is a red herring.
That doesn't make any sense. Asking for a reason or proof that someone have done this thing in past is not a "red herring".
11  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 24, 2015, 08:44:32 AM
Imagine if you have unknown people that knock out your door. Once you open it, there is someone looking for $ 1 million loan and will give you back $ 33.333,33 per day
How do you feel then ?

For me, I fell that I'm still don't know him very well so I can accuse him as a scammer ( just at my thought )




But sir i am not asking for 1 million so there is big difference...
12  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 24, 2015, 08:43:06 AM
It's not abuse... It's your fault for taking out ridiculous unsecured loans.

Sir, it's not about asking for big loans. It's about calling someone scammer without any proof.
Big loans without any proof and wouldn't want to reveal any information = scamming
You get it yet or do i have to lend you my common sense ?
This is Bitcoin version of Nigerian scams Grin

Also you keep saying people shouldn't call anyone scammer without proof
Where's the proof of your investment oil company Roll Eyes
people been asking for that but somehow you always dodging that question Tongue

Sir, if you kindly read my thread i have said that if any lender is interested he can contact me and i will provide each and every information about company and how the investment is going to work.

Oh for real, you created the topic in front of the public to see and it is fair for you to reveal the information to public, how about you reveal the information to me, then i can bring it to the public
Assuming you do have the legit proof Tongue

Why to give information to those who are not interested?
It's like telling someone something which he is not interested in listening - means wasting your and his time.
13  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 24, 2015, 08:41:13 AM
Let me see the proof, Vod. Not only me let everyone see the proof that i am a scammer. Bring it to public.

I'm sure you understand that if I revealed how I knew you were a scammer, you would use that to create another account I could not detect.

But trust me, I have proven 100% you are a scammer.

Sir, after all the negative comments and criticism i am not going to create another to receive the same thing. I am going to use only my this account to fight this thing.
And if you are so sure why don't you tell other people so they can also use your method to be safe from scammers ??
14  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 23, 2015, 11:44:12 AM
Sir, it's not about asking for big loans. It's about calling someone scammer without any proof.

I have absolute 100% proof you are a scammer.  I hope you understand I can't reveal my methods for determining so, or else you would create another scammer account a different way.

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I have absolute 100% proof you are a scammer.

Let me see the proof, Vod. Not only me let everyone see the proof that i am a scammer. Bring it to public.
15  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 23, 2015, 11:42:36 AM
It's not abuse... It's your fault for taking out ridiculous unsecured loans.

Sir, it's not about asking for big loans. It's about calling someone scammer without any proof.
Big loans without any proof and wouldn't want to reveal any information = scamming
You get it yet or do i have to lend you my common sense ?
This is Bitcoin version of Nigerian scams Grin

Also you keep saying people shouldn't call anyone scammer without proof
Where's the proof of your investment oil company Roll Eyes
people been asking for that but somehow you always dodging that question Tongue

Sir, if you kindly read my thread i have said that if any lender is interested he can contact me and i will provide each and every information about company and how the investment is going to work.
16  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 23, 2015, 06:39:36 AM
It's not abuse... It's your fault for taking out ridiculous unsecured loans.

Sir, it's not about asking for big loans. It's about calling someone scammer without any proof.
17  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 23, 2015, 06:38:19 AM
We all know that you're a scammer. Even if you aren't, a newbie with 0 trust trying to ask for a 50 BTC loan without any collateral whatsoever is going to get a negative trust by default from one of the trusted members to prevent scamming.

You'll get the negative trust removed after a month or so... If you don't attempt to scam anyone in that period of time.

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We all know that you're a scammer.
Give people here proof that i am a scammer.

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Even if you aren't, a newbie with 0 trust trying to ask for a 50 BTC loan without any collateral whatsoever is going to get a negative trust by default from one of the trusted members to prevent scamming.
You are right but the point was that trust system is being abused.
negative trust doesnt necessarily mean youve scammed anyone, that would defeat one of the purposes of tagging a user with negative trust, which is to warn others that this person is not to be trusted. negative trust can also be used as a tell that the person / account is not to be trusted, is highly suspect of a scam attempt, engaging in untrustworthy behavior, the list goes on. pretty brand new account asking for a 20k usd loan? yeah i wouldnt trust that either.

which is to warn others that this person is not to be trusted.
Why not to be trusted ? You have proof of him being not able to trust ? Any past deals or things like that which can prove that this user is not trust worthy?

looks like you were given red ratings ffor asking for large amounts of money with no collateral on a fairly new throw away-able account. if this doesnt make sense to you, lets put it into simpler words.

lets say you met some random 12 year old kid youve never met or even seen before today while walking to the pharmacy down the street or something because you wanted to buy a candle. why a candle? i dont know either. im just making shit up.
kid asks you: "ayy can i have like 800 dollars? i PROMISE ill pay you back, im CLEARLY trustable."
are you going to give the kid 800 dollars? or are you going to think something like "man fuck this kid im not trusting you for a split second you scammin kid."
probably the latter. does it make more sense now?

First of all thank you for your well explained example.
But i am not a kid and yes if you read my thread i have been saying that i will give each and every information about how the investment will work and how we will be getting 2BTC daily.
18  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 23, 2015, 04:00:35 AM
We all know that you're a scammer. Even if you aren't, a newbie with 0 trust trying to ask for a 50 BTC loan without any collateral whatsoever is going to get a negative trust by default from one of the trusted members to prevent scamming.

You'll get the negative trust removed after a month or so... If you don't attempt to scam anyone in that period of time.

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We all know that you're a scammer.
Give people here proof that i am a scammer.

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Even if you aren't, a newbie with 0 trust trying to ask for a 50 BTC loan without any collateral whatsoever is going to get a negative trust by default from one of the trusted members to prevent scamming.
You are right but the point was that trust system is being abused.
negative trust doesnt necessarily mean youve scammed anyone, that would defeat one of the purposes of tagging a user with negative trust, which is to warn others that this person is not to be trusted. negative trust can also be used as a tell that the person / account is not to be trusted, is highly suspect of a scam attempt, engaging in untrustworthy behavior, the list goes on. pretty brand new account asking for a 20k usd loan? yeah i wouldnt trust that either.

which is to warn others that this person is not to be trusted.
Why not to be trusted ? You have proof of him being not able to trust ? Any past deals or things like that which can prove that this user is not trust worthy?
19  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 23, 2015, 03:58:44 AM
OP clearly has attention deficit... I strongly suggest that OP if you don't want more criticism please close this thread and go work for legit BTC.
Thank you.

Bitcointalk community has helped me to become used to criticism, now i don't care what happens.
What else you have to offer instead of criticism? Clearly, nothing. Because it's easy to criticize others but difficult to handle when someone criticize you.
20  Economy / Reputation / Re: TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE? on: December 23, 2015, 03:57:25 AM
I invite all of you folks to take a look at my feedback and tell me if that's abuse or not.  I've done a grand total of one (1) deal here on bitcointalk, selling some Coke codes and the deal went fine.  Those other fuckers who left me red trust are just angry assholes who didn't like comments I made.  So yeah, trust abuse is rampant here.  Look at Vod's feedback--tons of retaliatory feedback that's complete horse shit.

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Those other fuckers who left me red trust are just angry assholes who didn't like comments I made.  So yeah, trust abuse is rampant here.  Look at Vod's feedback--tons of retaliatory feedback that's complete horse shit.

That's the thing i have been talking about. It is being abused.
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