Здравствуйте,

если вы переводили биткоины Wi-Fu за асик-майнер, пожалуйста укажите адрес биткоин на который переводили.

Сказать метабанку ЭЭЭ неправы я смогу, если в результате деятельности проекта клиенты за полгода не отобьются из-за недогруза хешей или несвоевременного отгруза - ну тут да - было таки плохое дело.

Main question for Yifu is now: How many chips (batches) are left and by when can they be delivered?

So 470 eur + VAT for a complete board? Chips included?
Sorry to ask but it's kind of too good.
What's the downside?

Сегодня ночью, в 1-11 около офиса Метабанка, состоялась отгрузка первых 240Gh/sec (в одном корпусе).
Так сложилось, что счастливыми обладателями стали мы (я и мои компаньоны).
Во время встречи сложилось такое ощущение, что ребята из Метабанка просто ночуют в офисе, собирая девайсы, они были очень уставшие но полные энтузиазма. Респект им за работу, которую они делают, а не кормят в место этого троллей на форуме.

После отгрузки мы достаточно долго (в силу определенных обстоятельств и погодных условий) добирались до места установки устройства и запустили его только рано утром, после чего нас сморил сон, по-сему пишу только сейчас.
На данный момент устройство стабильно выдает 196Gh/sec при реджектах около 0.7% (чипы не разогнаны). Как сказали ребята — нужно ещё немного допилить софт, обновления будут выкладываться на сайте. Кроме этого пока некорректно работает веб-морда, её тоже обещали допилить на днях.

Вдогонку фотки и видео девайса:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v93tfala2x9zykf/P1040504.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nfhcgazavzcykeu/P1040503.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p0lq2orxjkiths8/P1040502.JPG
http://youtu.be/Cs_jdbISpOo

Ещё раз респект и спасибо ребятам из Метабанка, которые делают всё зависящее от них чтобы отгрузить девайсы как можно скорей.

The thing is... who will pay the 9500 chips that remains? You? Iam? Or will you find a buyer? Or which of the buyers should be forced to buy anyway? I mean it wouldnt be fair to move all chips to batch 1 then because all batch 1 buyers cant get a refund than. In this case in theory no one could get a refund because every batch would contain some buyers that want to keep. Thats the problem here. So i think the only solution at the end would be to handle this democratic since the solution is somewhat black or white. The choice in between is slim.

But i already posted a question to zefir if we could merge such chips into one batch that isnt refunded in case we only get enough chips together with other groupbuys.

If nothing works i guess there still will be some chips are sold somewhere that could be bought. At least Yifu most probably will have a good amount of chips at the end that he only can sell for low prices.

Go to a bank, get a 2 month loan, buy and build 1000 chips/boards and the community will support you with 10% deposit orders. This is how business needs to be done, like a business.

1. i choose to order the PCBs after i read the Terms of Service: i wouldn't buy a preorder without the chance to get a refund. I'm not having a profit from someone else errors, it's not insolent, and he told me a part of the funds were spent only after he gave me a refund. I can give back the spent part of my PCBs preorder to Steve, it's not a problem, he just didn't ask for this: but guess what? I'm still here and i'm not escaping with the "stolen refund".
2. i'm selling at 0.075 and you would ask 0.081.I started from 0.081 since i got the refund. I also tried some higher prices before, looking at others ppl pricing. I'm going down day by day. You should acknowledge yourself before writing. You don't know how many times i explained all the risks involved and all the facts about Avalon chips problems and group buys to newbs that didn't accept at the end: so don't throw shit at me without a reason. I couldn't be more honest with buyers.
3. maybe prices of electricity are not the same here and where you live: if you were in my shoes you would be aware that ROI is not possible anymore. Maybe it's better for everyone if we get a refund from BitSyncom. Maybe it's good news to hear that BitSyncom will (maybe) give refunds.
4. seems like you are so angry with me because i've got a refund. I asked for a refund because i'm not alone, and my friends asked me to try. Steve had the opportunity to prove he deserves our trust. So if you feel so uncomfortable why can't you focus about the real reasons? Why should you blame me instead of yourself?
5. please show some respect and be mature. And please explain the difference between: "get back the amount spent" and "requesting pcb refund + selling chips for less then you bought".

Hi Steve and thank you again for your kindness,
i'm selling 160 chips at 0.075/ea
could you please confirm i own 160 shares and that you will process the transaction?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=282402.0

Thank you

EDIT:: seems like BitSyncom is talking about refunds.
I would start to talk about this: ROI is not possible anymore for me (price of electricity here is really high), and if Avalon gives us a full refund for all the chips, we could start a poll to see.

 

We should start approaching this possibility, like steamboat.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg3033196#msg3033196

кто там спрашивал, на сколько может подняться сложность\мощность, при запуске всех устройств (укр,рос, и хз кого ещё) на чипах битфури?
сегодня был дан ответ - на 170 Тх. выходит сложности будет близка к 100М (только из-за нас всех)

от сегодняшних 500 Тх это будет всего лишь +33%
поэтому, действительно можно поверить пану битфури, который говорил, что у нас всё ещё хорошие перспективы по окупаемости майнеров.  

I want Yifu's head on a stick.

Its bad to fall of the earth. It's for a small kid to say i'm not death after no communicatio to people who gave you millions. The worst part is to lie / scam and still not doing anything the third time.

Первый блин комом бывает. Это раз. А вот вам два:

Я бы на месте (сами-знаете-кого) тоже бы (возможно) кое-куда отгружать не сильно торопился, после того срача на форуме :-)

Thanks for the update, but there was no news by MetaBank. In a personal call to me it was not possible to know what will be the final electricity consumption. The only thing I learned was that we could take the device to the hosting 4U enclosure with 360 gh/s. Place on a 3 kw/h ready. All electrical cables, patch cords and switches are available. At the moment I do not see problems for the hosting setup. All will pass quickly within 1 day after receiving. Thx.

P.S.: Предзаказы оказывается выкупают по двойной цене ($4k), так что сомневающиеся могут сберечь нервы себе и посетителям ветки...