batch 2 has already shipped. there were many reports of delivery last week.
Are you even a Batch #2 customer? Only about 30 of the 600 systems have been received. Where are all the others? None of the missing systems has been shipped out, at least without a working SMT line they had no capacity yet. None of the Batch #2.1 Walletbit customers has received even an order confirmation, let alone a tracking number. Batch #2 has barely started to ship. QFT!! |
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Quite honestly Yifu is turning out to be an arrogant prick.
If I don't get my Feb 2nd Batch 2 avalon in the next 30 days, or my 75 BTC back, I am going to assume this is a complete scam, and that Yifu is a thief. |
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Ken;
Zhang always say they should be left horizontal not vertical.
congrats. I should be posting my arrival pics right after santa claus drops them off....
I really think it takes big balls for Yifu to be upset that someone woke him up when he basically had the power to stop it himself by providing updates in a timely manner after he knew the information in his last update was WRONG. Take some responsibility on why all these people are "bothering" you, it is because you are LATE and have been completely unresponsive, NOT because the people are "assholes" to interupt your slumber.
I will be furious if the chips ship before the batch IIIs
Batch 2 is much better than batch 1. They are shipping, there are notifications and tracking numbers. That's all we asked for. Well, I would say that it is also reasonable to ask for shipping in the order of pay date. Absolutely. I paid February 2nd. I want my ASIC -- why are Feb 18th 55 BTC orders being prioritized when I spent 75 BTC 2 weeks earlier than them? Really terrible business practices. |
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Yifu where is my Batch 2 walletbit order? Paid 75 BTC and Feb 18th orders are shipping first? The puk is with that eh?
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humpdybumpdy, where's the Feb 2nd botched WalletBit orders?
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Feb 2nd WalletBit botched order, 75 BTC on the line, no communication, no tracking #, nothing.
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The squeaky wheel gets oiled -- so Yifu, why ship the Feb 18th orders before the botched WalletBit Feb 2nd orders? After you've gotten your sleep and had your coffee, can you comment on why the 75 BTC orders from Feb 2nd are basically MIA, with no information or even inkling of having been received/processed by your company? That is A LOT of money for anyone, I think... although now you must think "Psh whats ten grand? Why would I bother to answer an email GEEZ. Can't you see I am trying to sleep?" Well that's great for you and I understand, but this attitude does not reflect well to any of us.
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somebody called and woke me up in the middle of the night for this, so I'll keep it short. 1a. see the conference video, I thought that's an update; for the lazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY1xgGiejIc1b. also got cornered after the panel and somebody took this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtVx26LlNXA2. an update incoming in < 1 week, pretty exciting. 3. we fully understand there is problems with orders ( no way?! ) - we can not address these issues IF WE DO NOT SOLVE OUR PRODUCTION ISSUE then we can not DELIVER at all. - so until that happens, get all your information ready and bump the ticket if it makes you feel better, or just wish to complain and blow off some steam. ( please do not create new ones though, usually looking at the support system ticket insolvency merging at least 5-6 other ones first... ). 4. this forum is a giant waste of time, get back to coding, go outside, hug your mother, do something, Thanks for the quick update, much appreciated. 1. I'm sure you are extremely busy but IMO your customers who have collectively invested $millions in your bulk chips shouldn't have to dig up a 25 minute video for information on when they can expect their sample chips that I believe are now over 3 weeks late with no contact from Bitsyncom. A quick e-mail to your customers will go a LONG way in easing their concerns and reducing the conjecture/paranoia found on the forums. 2. Awesome, can't wait. 3. I personally have no glitched orders/tickets but I am curious why you have not hired a customer service rep or 2 to deal with us annoying customers. It seems pretty normal for people to worry when they get no response from a company's support system so I can't blame them. Even just a canned reply "We are looking into your issue!" goes a long way. 4. I know this sentiment is common but you have to realize that we have to come here because there is simply no official info about the delay and this is one of the few places people share what little info can be found. Some people have a LOT of money riding on you with very little information available. When I got the update that batch #2 was starting to ship in April I relaxed, hugged my mom, threw the ball with my kids etc etc. After a month passed with no tracking # or update I decided to check back here only to learn there wasn't much progress so far with batch #2 and the sample chips. Now that another three weeks have passed without any update, surly you can understand why a lot of us are curious about what is going on. Your update above is the first I've heard that you are having production issues that are not currently solved and the irony is I learned this on these forums, not from an official Bitsyncom update so you are training us to come to this cesspool of a forum  . I'm telling you man just a quick update to your customers will go a loooooooong way. I have 2 boys in baseball so I get plenty of sun and don't have the time to dig up videos and random forums posts to find out why the miners I spent my hard-mined BTC on are now almost 2 months late. It's like I tell my daughter when she goes out. I don't mind if you are going to be late but just give me a quick call so I know what to expect and avoid losing any sleep needlessly worrying. Again I deeply appreciate your efforts and I look forward the next "official update"  Re: lastly, food for though: who says we control that address in the first place?  This was the original point of my post (not to bring up batch #2 delays) and I find this ambiguous response "interesting". I didn't expect that you would directly address this post but while you're hear why not just clear the air and end the conjecture? The facts VERY strongly suggest these are the funds you have received for bulk chip orders. The transactions match bulk order amounts and began exactly when orders opened. I believe some people have tracked their coins to that address as well. I was planning to order 10k chips but backed out since there was very little info but have been watching with extreme curiosity especially now that the sample chips have been delayed with no official response. I'm an Avalon customer too, and I don't get how some of you can be so crazy upset. We all know this is a high risk investment. More like a gamble. You need to factor delays among many other things when ordering, not factoring them is just delusional. Avalon is not a customer friendly business. Their philosophy is pretty transparent, and they are not customer oriented at all. Their terms of sales say pretty much all. Caveat emptor. I can understand a batch 1 customer bitterly complaining of not having received his unit, but opening a thread speculating on what they do with the chips money, while scrutinizing their BTC address and whining... Seriously? It's that necessary? The business that offers you plug and play money-minting machines with guaranteed ROI will never exist. There are risks. You have to be informed at all times and look for the info yourself. The truth is that Avalon faced a delay for batch 1, you should have counted on a delay on the other batches and the chips too. Let's hope everything is delivered ASAP, but all this anger for things (delays, bad customer service, etc.) that were so obviously expected is beyond me. Sure, but one would hope that even the most basic of human notions of what is equitable would exist in their business practices; ie, currently those of us with botched WalletBit Feb 2nd orders who paid 75+ BTC are being stonewalled and they are shipping the 55 BTC orders from Feb 18th and onward! That is just not fair, and very bad business practice. Yifu, once you've had your cup of coffee could you comment on this phenomenon? Why are Feb 2nd 75 BTC walletbit users being screwed? |
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bump -- has Yifu awoken from his slumber? Can he respond re: Feb 2nd batch 2 orders? And why they have shipped Feb 18th 55 BTC orders before Feb 2nd WalletBit orders? Or do we need to continuously prod the issue to get a response.
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Bitsyncom thanks you read this thread but please please cant you hire at least one support person? There are so many questions that arent "when does my avalon batch 1 ship", even you payment provider claims he cant get in contact with you, there are order problems and no response. In fact your posts are the only things i heard from avalon since a long time. It really puts a burden of many customers that avalon isnt communicating while the solution is so easy.
Please consider!
Sebastian, you're just a customer, nothing more. Go outside and hug your mother, if you're into that thing. The tens of thousands of dollars you have on the line doesn't give you any right to anything, including but not limited to a response to your inquiries. Can we all please feel bad for Yifu for a moment? He got woken up in the middle of the night, because people who have given him nearly 10 million dollars without a word of response are getting uneasy. I really feel sorry for Yifu, it must be tough. |
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bump, and I say again to Yifu... what about us Feb 2nd, 75 BTC walletBit users, who have heard nothing, and are quite dismayed that the Feb 18th orders are shipping before ours, when they only paid 55 BTC.....
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Thanks for the reply, Yifu. It is definitely reassuring. Perhaps you could explain why Feb 2nd orders are being stonewalled and you are shipping Feb 18th orders beforehand? We paid 75 btc and they paid 55 btc, and we put a lot of faith in you, and the Feb 2nd orders still do not appear in the shop. Also, what about the Batch 1 sap who still hasn't gotten his ASIC?
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Feb 18th! Great! What about us who paid 75 btc/machine on February 2nd...............
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Yifu has telegraphed his thoughts loud and clear, which are basically that he could really care less about the emotions of a bunch of people with tens of thousands of dollars on the line in his venture. If you sent them money when they were starting out in hopes of riding their successes, well, you better get in line and realize you have no rights.
To some like myself, 100+ btc now represents a huge sum of money. Customers took on significant risk, no doubt about that. However, it is hard not to look at the carefully crafted Garzik-delivery-review followed by the Batch 2 release as the ultimate pump-and-dump by Avalon to funnel what, 60 thousand, 100 thousand bitcoins to their personal accounts? At which point they hold all the cards.
We agreed to their no bullshit Terms of Sale, but to be frank, the way they have conducted themselves given the amount of money on the line here is quite disturbing. I am not familiar with Eastern style of business, and really am trying to remain optimistic about the whole thing, but I can't help but feel that these two young men are sitting back sipping Martinis and have at this time said "Fuck it," taken on a few interns, and are letting the pieces fall as they may. No refunds, no questions, no communication.
I feel for anyone who has a serious amount of money tied up here. We are all real human beings with obligations, and in this case Avalon has a serious obligation to fulfill every single order they touched (including the poor Saps from Batch 1 who have STILL not received their orders). These types of sketchy "smuggle your ASIC through customs" dealings only further ingrain distrust in the community. Good for Avalon, that such meanderings are irrelevant when they hold all the coins.
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Bump. Why can't there be a reliable ASIC company? If Avalon didn't want to bother with Batch 2 and 3, they shouldn't have accepted the ~100,000 bitcoins. The duality of karma and equity is a tangible and real affair in this universe of ours.
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Bump, still no newsletter update. Where are the Feb 2nd orders? Or are us Feb 2nd WalletBit users ever going to see anything, whether it be an ASIC or our BTC back?
Avalon statement: "No news is good news" how often shall we repeat that? Until you and I and everyone else gets their WalletBit F'UP Feb 2nd Order |
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Bump, still no newsletter update. Where are the Feb 2nd orders? Or are us Feb 2nd WalletBit users ever going to see anything, whether it be an ASIC or our BTC back?
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Bump for us Feb 2nd customers who still have heard nothing and have 75 * x BTC on the line.
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15 million difficulty next.. damn. O;
We have an ASIC company that does not ship, one that barely ships, and one that ships but charges an exorbitant fee, and one that we don't really know about. I wish we have an ASIC company that actually ships on time, and does not charge an arm and a leg. Nope, it's too much to ask for. :/ I'm wary KNC might not deliver and be BFL 2.0.. Gah.
just imagine, if what you hoped for came true, diff would even be higher =P Bump, come on Yifu send us a newsletter update. What's going on? It's been over 4 months now. |
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