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1021  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 27, 2024, 08:30:16 PM
Jurgen Klopp left Liverpool at a time when Liverpool was at the top of the standings and I saw that it was a very unexpected decision, I didn't expect him not to wait until this season was over, reportedly Moh Salah will follow in his footsteps leaving Liverpool, this is really a hard blow for  liverpool.
Liverpool was not expecting to hear such announcement as this at this time and I think it was a surprise to them just as it came as a surprise to the fans and also other supporters of the team, I'm sure even the management will aswell have a fair share of their own surprise too.

Klops has done well taking the team to the top of the premier league and also getting them through to the round of sixteen at the Europa competition so making this announcement having gone this far already with the team isn't a bad one but a preparation to their mind about what to expect by the end of the season, there will never be a better time than any time he informs them, I feel if he had informed them at the end of the season it wouldn't make any difference as Informing them as at this time too.
1022  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 27, 2024, 08:09:07 PM
Nice won Mets today by a goal and helped them reduce the gap between PSG and Nice on the table, currently it's just a five points difference between both top teams and by two win Nice can be able to displace PSG that's only if PSG losses or draw their next two matches aswell but that's not looking possible as PSG is tough than most teams in the Ligue 1.

Nice dominated against Mets all through the game, and we're able to secure their win, Metz is just a point away from relegation, it's actually a goal because they have Lyon at the same points with them but have more his than Lyon and that's why Lyon is at the top of the relegation teams which is immediately topped by Metz. Nice have always been a better side when meeting against Metz as metz hasn't won Nice in a very long time. Metz may need to improve in their next fixtures if not they are very much at risk of relegation.
1023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 27, 2024, 07:49:14 PM
Yeah PSV play really good in Eredivisie, but I disagree if Dortmund is struggle in Bundesliga. The results of their recent match is good, Sancho played better than when he was in Manchester United. I think Dortmund will evolving to be better, they still have around 2-3 weeks to improve.

Although PSV seems to be like a good contender, but I still believe Dortmund able overcome that.
PSV today had a good victory just as it was expected of them this evening which has continued keeping their flag high flying at the top of the table in their domestic league this season, their dominance in their domestic league once again has been affirmed by this victory gotten tonight.

Dortmund is in a very competitive league, the bundesliga is way very competitive than the eredivisie where PSV is currently playing but then i think for them to be able to be at the top of their league with such a good point already is a clear sign that they are in good form and not a team to underestimate because they can perform real good ad probably surprise their opponent especially as thy are aware what it means to be in the UCL and what's possibly at stake.
1024  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 27, 2024, 07:33:28 PM
Jurgen Klopp have his reasons why he decided to leave, though till end of the season. His absence will really have a big influence on Liverpool and their performance, he's one of the tremendous good coach for the club and have managed the team for years, this is probably not the time for him to quit but these coaches knows what's best for them and they just leave without giving proper reasons. I know something is sketchy here, because Lived is still in very good shape, what drives or makes the coach to think of leaving?
The reason klop is leaving Liverpool at the moment has been made known by him when he made the announcement of leaving the team by the end of the season. It's very clear his absence will greatly affect Liverpool in almost every aspect which includes their form , their performance and even their tactical approach to games.

For a coach who has been with them over five years it's enough to really be impacted by his departure and not only will it affect the performance of the team but my aswell prompt the exit of some players aswell who has already gotten too used to him all the times he did spend in Liverpool. It might take Liverpool a whole season or even more to be able to recover from the effects they will get resulting from the results of the departure of klop but then it's at this moment inevitable because he has to go and it a decision that doesn't look like he's going back on.
1025  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 27, 2024, 06:47:58 PM
Atalanta won the match 2-0. They are now partially seated in the fourth position of the Seria A table before Fiorentina play their match against Inter Milan tomorrow, which is going to be a tough one because both Inter Milan and Fiorentina need three points in the match because Inter Milan will want to catch up to Juventus, while Fiorentina will struggle to get back to the top four position in the Seria A table.
Atlanta has done a great job and I must commend how they have gradually gone up the table with little to no attention and this added with some level of consistency , they will be able to secure a spot at the champions league by next season thats if they are able to still stay at the fourth position on the table till the end of the season.

Two goals was an affirmed victory and one which could not be seen as been lucky win for Atlanta. The oder of the table currently is just interesting currently, having Juventus at the top then followed by inter Milan after which is AC Milan before Atlanta standing at the fourth position which they got after today's game, Juventus will at the end of this game determine if they are making big the margin between them and inter Milan or they are closing in the gap. Udinese is just a point away from relegation.
1026  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 27, 2024, 06:32:00 PM
I'm trying to be hopeful that Barcelona will be able to pull up a come back by the end of the second half of the game tonight because so far their performance isn't looking like they will be able to do so but then it's very possible that by the second half they would employ a better approach to making sure they are able to win tonight games.

The statistics of tonights game has been more in favour of Barcelona as they have a better possession and attempt than Villarreal but it's almost looking like one of those bad day for Barcelona in the first half , I'm optimistic about the second half because in their previous games they have done something similar, getting a comeback and winning the game by the end of the game, Villarreal isn't a very tough team such that Barcelona wouldn't have been able to win them but then tonight, so far it's been a different from expectations but I'm not quick to conclusions yet until the game is ended.
1027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 27, 2024, 06:20:46 PM
Bayern Munich almost closed the match with 1 point if only Sven Michel succeeded in executing their first penalty, in this match Bayern Munich seemed to hold the ball more than attack, we can see from the statistics that Augsburg has better attack statistics than Bayern Munich. With the results in this match, Bayern Munich is only 1 point behind Bayer Leverkusen, if Bayern Munich really wants to continue to maintain their distance, I think they can no longer play like the game they showed today.
Leverkusen will now be under some kind of pressure because they are ahead of Bayern Munich with just a very few points so it's very possible Bayern Munich can get ahead of them if they get a draw in their match as Bayern Munich has already won their game today already. So Bayern Leverkusen needs a win and nothing less by the end of the game today.

The game so far is already at the later part of the first half and Bayern Leverkusen is yet to get a goal neither has their opponent, I'm hoping that Bayern Leverkusen will be able to win this game by the end of the second half of the game, they have had an average performance in the first half so far they had more possession and attempts in the first half which did established their dominance so far, I'm hoping they are not having a bad day so they should be able to win the game by the end of the second half.
1028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Older men vs Younger boys in gambling, Which enjoys Gambling for fun the more? on: January 26, 2024, 11:43:51 PM
Older men clearly gamble for fun. Because they no longer think about anything in old age, therefore they will enjoy every activity as fun, including gambling.
Apart from that, older men's financial conditions are usually more stable and they don't need to buy anything else.
Therefore, they have nothing to lose when playing gambling, maybe even occasionally they will chat with the opponent beside them. Indeed, his life is already at that level of relaxation.
This isn't totally correct because even old men do have financial burdens that they are hoping to offset and to think that they don't think of anything probably because nothing is bothering them could be considered as untrue presumptions which when critically checked you will find out that the case is other wise.

Some old men are still very ambitious even at old age so I think it will be better to say that your opinion is relative and not applicable to all, it's very true that at old age relaxation is paramount and what most old people engage in the most but then on the other Hand, some other old people are very ambitious that they want to still acquire some more things even at old age and would not want to spare any cent without an expectation up on it so such person may still gamble to make money don't be surprised.
1029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is addiction bad only when it is a problem? on: January 26, 2024, 11:26:31 PM
Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?
I think there's a misconception with your definition because I don't think addiction has got anything outside negativity, the resultant effect of addiction has mostly been disastrous and so I wouldn't want to see such person which you have described as addicted rather I will say such person is obsessed with gambling a d can't just get enough of gambling.

With addiction the case is totally different as it's usually prioritized above every other of the person's activities, they addicted literally sacrifice almost everything at the alter of their addiction. Addicts are never seen in a positive light generally because at the point of addiction you have literally lost control over your self when it has to do with such habit and the best you can do at that point is to bow to satisfying such needs and until you have done so you don't seem to gain back control over yourself.
1030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the definition of a Gambler? Do you consider yourself as a Gambler? on: January 26, 2024, 11:17:54 PM
Personally, I don't like the word Gambler tbh. And it feels more worse when someone calls someone a Gambler in the local language. I played some hands it's true and I tested many games for test purposes But I was never affected by the gamble. and I consider I am not a gambler myself. Somehow I do not feel good or something does not fit with me by this word.

What do you think about yourself and how do you want to define the word Gambler?
Getting involved with a game of chances makes you a gambler, it's that simple, as sad as it may sound but at that point in time when you are involved, you are a gambler except you want to give it another glorified name but then the fact that there's no certainty with what you are trying out means you are gambling and one involved with gambling is a gambler.

There no problem with been identified as a gambler but the problem lays within your gambling approach and if you have gotten to the point bod addiction. I know im the second and third world countries, gambler's are been stereotyped with a mind set of irresponsibility but that doesn't mean all gamble's are actually irresponsible, you as a gambler who knows how well to stay disciplined and still have your fun can turn out the example and these people will be surprised at how you gamble get still stay this responsible, they may end up finding it difficult stereotyping you.
1031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 26, 2024, 11:09:28 PM

Leipzig cannot be underestimated because it is a dark horse team. Even though statistically Real Madrid is the favorite, Leipzig can disrupt Real Madrid's steps in this preliminary round.
Of course Leipzig also has high motivation to continue to the next round. And so far Leipzig is still in 4th position in the standings with quite good scores in domestic league matches.

But so far, if Real Madrid plays at home in the second leg, it will always provide unexpected surprises.
Moreover, their motivation is high because they have just been defeated by Atletico Madrid in the CDR. Surely they will be dead set on chasing the UCL trophy this season.
I understand your point and it's very much valid and I do say it always that in football a team been big and have the better squad isn't enough to think they are going to win their small opponent because these all opponent will definitely want to show as much strength as they can and that will .means possibly sweeping the big boys off their foot

Real Madrid has got a better squad with the much needed experience to be able to just get over Leipzig on a normal day but then we have to consider that in champions league most teams seem to give out only their best and that means they don't play their regular pattern of football because they are aware of how much competition they will be facing and how much of efforts they need to put in to get something out of every maychas every match counts for them in the UCL so it's very possible Leipzig may constitute a very strong resistance to Madrid.
1032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 26, 2024, 10:54:06 PM
Almeria dominated Alaves but failed to score a goal that could have changed the result of their game with Alaves. Almeria had 19 goal attempts, with 7 of them on target, while Alaves had 11 goal attempts, with 3 of them on target, which resulted in the 3 goals Alaves scored against Almeria. There is no way Almeria will not be relegated from La Liga this season because Almeria has played 22 matches in the league, and they have yet to win any match they played in the league.
I'v know that Slaves was going to make sure they win tonights game because so far they have really been better than Almera and even according to their H2H, in their last meeting, Alaaves has won them in their last two meetings so I think there has been a pattern to their results and an exception wasn't made today.

Almeria dominance was such that had made me almost believed they were going to win or at worse get a draw for today's game but then it turned out they weren't creative enough to get goals even with all the dominance they had all through the game tonight.. three goals loss was actually very humiliating in their home and alaves was very much unable to get a goal out of the whole first to second half of the game despite their dominance. Ameria will still stay at the bottom of the table and are most definitely getting relegated by the end of this season.
1033  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 26, 2024, 10:43:36 PM

I don't know why Klopp announces it now. I mean they are still in the competition, he should focus on the team now. Announcing his departure may influence the mentality of the players, it may bring bad impact the performance of Liverpool players. If Klopp wants to win trophies for his farewell, he must focus on the competition.
I agree with you, it's very true  this announcement will make some players having this at the back of their mind lose their form especially for those who have been very compatible with him already, the taught of trying to get along with a new coach will almost weary their minds as they may not be prepared for it already.

Since he will be leaving by the end of the season he would have rather be more focused on getting to win his last sets of trophy before leaving especially the europa which has been one of his dream trophy's to achieve with Liverpool and this is his only chance before he leaves but then again I'm optimistic he's not going to lose focus on that which he aims to achieve before leaving so it will be added to one of his legacies before his departure at Liverpool, his team will aswell try to snap quickly out of the whole emotional feel brought by this announcement as they know that what they have to achieve ahead isn't what they should fave with such mindset.
1034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 26, 2024, 10:22:45 PM
Osimhen or not, Napoli has a long way to go in the La Liga. They may have to need more goals and more added points to at least measure up to the first seven on the table, but if no other teams on top loose or draw thier coming matches then with Osimhen scoring more goals than he has done in the AFCON, am sure Napoli will move some places up.  
I can't remember seeing osimhen nor Napoli playing in the Spanish La Liga probably the serie A is exactly where you may be making your reference to. Napoli cannot deny the fact that the presence of osimhen is very crucial and important to how well they are going to perform for the rest of the season so you saying "osimhen or not " has got some sentiments .

I'm the a very long time Napoli never taught for once to cling to the serie A title but it was made very possible by osimhen, whith home they are definitely going beyond their current position and will be sure to end the season above the tenth position and this isn't a thing to argue over, they goals you Made mention that they need can be easily achieved if he's present because he's got the creativity that will help them get as much goals as possible that will help them regain their image, even if they are unable to win the trophy they will at least not far below top five.
1035  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 26, 2024, 10:09:16 PM
Losing everyday is part of the game, atleast these clubs are able to bounce back and reclaimed the necessary points accumulated, perhapes not everyone have the strength to maintain good standards food. Every club have the opportunity to either win or lose, this is a choice and we should make sure we're on the good path. Rennes whipping Lyon 3-0 and there's still enough game time. I only see an average Lyon performance against their mates club, they have failed to meet up the standards and hope of their supporters.
With the performance I see tonight it's most likely Lyon may just get relegated by the end of this season because more losses only means set back and more points away from been able to get out of the relegation but if they were able to win todays game or even get a draw they would have still hope to definitely get out of relegation even if it's just a point above.

Lyon doesn't seem like a team that has got the potential to loose and probably bounce back anytime soon to their form as they should since they are having in mind to exit the temporary relegation on the table. Rennes is now currently at the ninth position on the table with twenty five points having won three games consecutively in their last five game where they lost and drew one each, we expected Lyon tho have shown better performance after have three consecutive wins before this games so they should have had better confidence and a good mentality to winning.
1036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 26, 2024, 09:53:40 PM
I can recall the difficulties Bayern Leverkusen faced before they could successfully get a chance score amd grab three good points home that day. Now they're to fave Bayern Munich who also has difficulties scoring goals and also creating chances. Harry Kane has been a symbol of hope for them anyways let's hope he can still score for them tommorow.

For Bayern Leverkusen, they remain league leaders with four points clear if they can continue with the same performance, it'll sure be to call them Champions in the next few months, I don't know if they have concluded with the chase for who replaces Victor Boniface. Looking at the last four game they've had at home, one can say they'll score two plus goals tommorow.
Leverkusen doesn't appear like a player dependent team so the absence of victor Boniface to them may just mean a tactical adjustment to allowing for the replacement to fit in and then they will be good, they have got a very good chemistry and rhythm which has helped them maintained that record which they have maintained since this season.

Facing Bayern Munich is definitely going to be challenging for Leverkusen but like you did said Munich recently finds it difficult scoring goals so I think it's going to be a fierce battle that will produce few goals and not as much goals as Bayern would do before but then looking at how they did performed against Leverkusen in their first meet and now that why are really finding it difficult to score goals, I can only imagine what will be of the encounter so I'm really careful about supporting anyone yet but to hole the better side wins.
1037  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 26, 2024, 09:44:08 PM
I think Liverpool might have a similar problem because they would hardly get a quality manager as good as Jurgen Klopp in Europe.

I won't say they'd hardly get a quality manager because he's leaving Liverpool would be the end of the club and also, when Rafa Benitez coached the club and wanted to leave the same thing was said, but look at them. No matter how bad these teams perform without their managers, they hardly hit relegation waters so I feel they will survive without Jurgen, it's just that the management will be expecting much from the new coach that will be his replacement, expecting him to meet up or keep up the standard of Klopp.
It's normal for a coach or a player to leave a team at a time, it could be due to retirement or transfer for the players and maybe sack or retirement or even moving to another team for coach so either ways a coach or player will definitely leave a team some day and is not going to stay there forever no matter how good such players or coach are.

After the exit of certain players or coach, it's normal for some teams to have some challenges with their performance and form but it doesn't mean the team won't bounce back later or won't be able to survive the absence of such persons, it will only take time and before you know it they are back on their feet and such is the case of Liverpool the exit of klop and Salah isn't a death sentence on the team but they may only suffer some set back for awhile after which they will be fine.
1038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does it looks responsible as woman telling husband you gamble? on: January 26, 2024, 09:25:08 PM
Even if he is going to get angry because of what you will tell him about gambling it won’t change the fact that you still need to tell him, at least he is your husband even if the money that is going to be used for gambling is not going to come from his pocket it’s important to at least let him know of what the wife do with her free time. The feelings no matter how bad it will look it won’t be as bad as when he will have to discover it by him self so better off telling him on time and get it off your mind.
Allowing him discover by himself that you do gamble will definitely ruin things much more than it would if you tell him and he gets to know through you informing him, then he will be able to accept the fact that you respected him enough to have told him what you are doing with your funds and your free time .

He may not take it lightly when he first gets to know and that's normal because it's definitely going to shock him to know that his wife does such a but then the way you will approach him with it is definitely going to matter and have a lot to do with how he's going to react if you tell him ramosfully and promise to quit if he wants you to or regulate your habit as he wishes, you will see that amicably he's going to discuss it with you and there's definitely not going to be a big deal made out of it.
1039  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: January 26, 2024, 09:14:14 PM
I have read a lot of thread on this board talking about the need to gamble responsibly and suggesting that gambling is meant to be done for fun and not to be seen as a means of livelihood. While this is theoretically alright, in the reality so many persons actually gamble because they want to get some financial top up from the gamble.

What is mostly common in my neighborhood and that I mostly do is soccer betting and if I am not exaggerating, 90% of the people that do soccer betting do do because they want to win money.

They can watch the match for fun but as long as it involved them paying money before gambling, most persons don't normally see it as fun and this is the reason why after placing a particular bet, if the game isn't successful they continue betting hoping to get a win along the way thervy being seen as addict.

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?

how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?
If I put more than I've budgeted then I don't find fun anymore in gambling except such game is won and then I can say the risk was worth it therby bringing the fun back so at that point the fun is dependent on the outcome of the game I had played earlier, anything so at that point I don't consider gambling just fun but business.

I personally see gambling both as fun and for financial to up and this is relative to what's at risk at the moment but then I still make sure not to take unnecessary risk so as not to get to the point of depression or been sad due to losses I suffer from the loss is any of the game just Incas I lose any of such games. But then I make sure to to be too financially dependent on the exception of the gambling proceeds but rather gamble for fun more often than I do for the financial benefits but it's still doesn't take away the expectancies.
1040  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling all about luck? on: January 26, 2024, 08:59:37 PM
People don't have to treat gambling games as the same bexa they are all different from each other even though they all fall under gambling, we have the category of games that deals with luck and those that only have to do about how skillful we appear, them we shouldn't forget that we also have individuals differences in terms of proficiencies in gambling which is also another thing to consider while discussing on this subject.
Once a game is considered gambling nit definitely has got a whole lot to do with luck as gambling is never about just skills even if it will require Skil but the place of luck can't be overturned except there's a fowl play which will allow the opponent win due to the fact that they have got a prior information of the possible outcome before they staked their game.

Skills and proficiency is definitely going to be an advantage to gambler's who has got them but for those who's not got neither of it will most likely be luck dependent most of the time because that's all they can fall back to if they must be able to get the best out of their gambling exploit. Gambling especially when it's solely luck dependent shouldn't be done with much risk rather a fragments of your capital been invested in it will be better so as to still maintain a safe boundary in case of possible losses.
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