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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: Today at 02:45:02 PM
Barcelona vs Girona is a match that will determine which of the two teams occupies second place in the standings. By achieving 3 points, there will be a fairly safe gap for Barcelona, but for Girona, if they manage to get 3 points, the gap with Barcelona will remain narrow, namely only 1 point. Because they don't have a schedule outside of La Liga, Barcelona will remain focused on performing optimally. I personally hope that Girona will find their ideal game again like at the start of the season and give Barcelona a surprise.

Then there is Madrid against Cadiz, maybe Ancelotti will take advantage of this match again by playing Arda Guler again because it will be better to prioritize the preparation of his core players on May 9 against Bayern Munich in the second leg of the Champions League. It is proven that Vinicius and Rodrigo need lots of rest time and maintain their health. In my opinion, the absence of Vinicius and Rodrigo as the main strikers in the match against Cadiz is not a problem because they can still get 3 points by playing Brahim Diaz, Joselu and Arda Guler.

Barcelona is in a stage of not having an interest in other matches will definitely focus more on La Liga to maintain its position as Real Madrid's rival in Laliga which when not leading then he must be second in the standings, Girona may give us a tremendous surprise this season to be in third place in the standings this week, it is a tremendous improvement, but my personal view is seeing the current situation Barcelona can still face Girona, although Barcelona was inconsistent, I think lately they have returned to a good enough performance to face Girona.

If the scenario Barcelona lose it will be embarrassed this season by Girona and fans will question Xavi.

That's the option that Ancelotti might take, indeed some of the core players need to rest to save energy to face Bayern Munich in leg 2, Brahim diaz, Joselu and Arda Guler are the stage options to face Cadiz, and to be honest losing even winning for them does not matter in the match against Cadiz, they are quite safe and definitely come out as champions this season.
2  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Mana yang kamu pilih untuk di beli, btc atau eth? on: Today at 02:26:35 PM
Jika merujuk pada catatan dari CMC dalam 1 tahun terakhir BTC lebih baik dari ETH dengan kenaikan 101% sedangkan ETH di sekitar 56%. Tetapi jika konteksnya adalah altcoin maka ada banyak altcoin bahkan di top 100 yang bisa memberikan return hingga 100% dalam waktu beberapa bulan saja.
BTC dan ETH itu coin sejenis, kalau dalam dunia investasi, itu sama kayak invest di barang yang sama dimana harga naik dan turunnya akan mengikuti satu sama lain. Setahu saya, smart investor di dunia ini jarang yang invest di barang yang sama, mereka akan cenderung invest di produk yang berlainan jenis dan sifatnya.
Memang pada pola pergerakan harga ETH dan Bitcoin itu sejalan sejauh ini dan itu menandakan persepsi anda benar akan hal itu, namun mungkin dengan ETH kita bisa menjadikannya aktif di ekosistemnya dan mendapatkan beberapa proyek yang ada di ekosistem ETH jadi keuntungannya bisa di take dari sana, seperti staking dan lainnya, tetapi bagi orang yang pure investmen maka BTC adalah solusi utamanya karena merupakan barang sejenis jika melihat dari sisi investment tanpa aktif di jaringannya.

Kalau menurut saya jika modal masih dibawah $10k hingga $5k lebih efektif dan banyak mendapatkan profit saat investasi di ethereum dibandingkan di bitcoin.
Mau modal 50 ribu perak rupiah pun kalau berdasarkan data Hanadawa di atas, tetap saja profit bitcoin lebih gede dari ETH dalam 1 tahun terakhir. Saya heran, hari gini kok masih ada yang mengkalkulasikan mahal atau murah-nya supaya dapat cryptonya lebih banyak, padahal saat ini kalkulasi profitnya tetap berdasarkan fiat bukan berapa banyak jumlah crypto tersebut.
Dan untuk mendapatkan hal itu tergantung level harga yang kita beli baik pada bitcoin maupun ETH baru bisa terlihat dimana kita akan mendapatkan presentase keuntungan yang jelas, tetapi jika melihat siklus yang sudah berjalan ini, Bitcoin jauh lebih menguntungkan, fakta bahwa Bitcoin sudah membentuk ATH baru dan ETH belum memiliki performa itu.
3  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: bitcoin sebagai hadiah on: May 01, 2024, 05:21:42 PM
seorang dosen di cilacap, benar benar tanpa ragu memperkenalkan anak2 nya tentang bitcoin dan juga altcoin, bahkan di lansir dari berita online, masing masing dari anak2 nya yang berulang tahun di beri hadiah dengan jumlah yang berbeda beda.

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Untuk anak yang pertama, Callista El Firdausa yang genap berusia 14 tahun mendapat hadiah ultah berupa aset Bitcoin senilai Rp14 juta.

Lalu anak yang kedua, Ayunindya El Khumaira, yang berusia 10 tahun mendapat aset Ethereum senilai Rp10 juta.

Sedangkan anak ketiganya, Arsyanendra Prima, yang berusia 5 tahun dibelikan aset Solana senilai Rp5 juta.
[1] https://muria.tribunnews.com/2024/04/23/alasan-dosen-muda-cilacap-beri-hadiah-ultah-3-anaknya-aset-kripto-melek-literasi-finansial

mungkin Bitcoin dan altcoins sudah sering terdengar di telinga banyak orang indonesia namun yang benar benar percaya pada potensi bitcoin di masa depan itu sedikit, bagaimana dengan agan sekalian, apakah akan memberikan anak2 atau orang terkasih ulang tahun atau mencapai sesuatu yang membanggakan.
bukan masalah hadiah ulang tahun berupa aset bitcoin atau altcoin gan. tapi menurut saya akan lebih berguna jika langsung memberikan hadiah yang bisa dimanfaatkan oleh anaknya. misalnya hadiah seperti peralatan sekolah, mainan kesukaannya atau sebagainya seperti anak pada umumnya. menurut saya itu masih lebih baik daripada memberikan anak aset bitcoin. terlebih lagi jika dilihat dari segi umur yang masih dibawah umur. memang memang aset crypto tidak memiliki batasan usia untuk memilikinya, cukup punya wallet sudah bisa menampung aset.
pertanyaannya, apakah umur segitu mengerti dan bisa menjual aset crypto yang diterimanya?

kembali lagi, jadi menurut saya masih kurang bijak jika memberikan aset ke anak yang masih dibawah umur tersebut, jika memang berkeinginan untuk memberikan aset crypto, berikanlah saat umurnya sudah cukup, bisa mengoperasikan dan mengerti dengan baik apa itu aset crypto.
Ini adalah langkah cerdas menurut saya iuntuk mendapatkan perhatian dari anaknya tentang bitcoin atau crypto dalam dirinya sehingga memiliki keinginan untuk belajar lebih mengenai hal ini, berbicara pada barang hadiah menurut saya untuk peralatan sekolah pak dosen sudah mampu memenuhi kebutuhan primer maupun sekunder anak-anaknya jadi dia memberikan hadiah BTC dan altcoin kepada anaknya sebagai investasi masa depan, mungkin pak dosen seorang maximalist yang sangat percaya, kita tidak tahu akan hal itu.

Tapi pandangan saya jauh lebih bagus hari ini daripada menunggu mereka hingga berumur 17 tahun yang mana harga bitcoin  pada saat itu kita tidak tahu seberapa mahalnya, jadi ii merupakan waktu yang tepat untuk megajarkan investasi kepada anak walaupun dia tidak mengerti, dan hal ii juga bisa dijakan sang anak untuk mengambil kuliah ketika lulus dari SMA, bitcoin atau crypto yang di berikannya oleh ayahnya pada beberapa tahun silam akan memilii harga yang berkali lipat di banding di harinya ketika sampai pada usia yang di perbolehkan oleh ayahnya untuk memilikinya.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 01, 2024, 04:00:42 PM
TeamPoint
Lecce
36
Cagliari
32
Verona
31
Frosinone
31
Empoli
31
Udinese
29
Sassuolo
26
Salernitana
15

Udinese Sassuolo and Salernitana probably going in serie b
I think the limit of potential relegation is at position 13 of the standings namely Lecce which has 36 points, where in the calculation there are still 3 matches remaining which allows a team to collect 9 full points provided it does not lose to the opponent in the remaining matches.
Salernitana will definitely enter Serie B but for Sassuolo if they can win the remaining matches it is still possible to get out of the relegation zone even though it is very difficult for them and seems impossible, and for Udinesse it is still possible to get out of the relegation zone so as not to be shifted to Serie B, because the probability is on the difference with Empoli and Frosinone only 2 points, one match with a defeat between Empoli and Frosinone will take Udinesse out of the relegation zone if Udinnese can win the match against Napoli.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 01, 2024, 03:20:30 PM

This week Luton is scheduled to face Everton. I think this match will be very important for Luton. Because if Luton can win this match, they have the opportunity to crawl out of the relegation zone. The reason is that Nottingham Forest, which is ranked above Luton, is only 1 point ahead. So if Luton can win the match against Everton this week, there is a big possibility that they can shift Nottingham's position and get out of the relegation zone. But I think it is very likely that Luton will have difficulty beating Everton. In fact, if you look at the head to head record between Luton and Everton, the result is that Luton is superior. The reason is that from the last 2 meetings between Luton and Everton, the result was that Luton was always able to win the match. However, at the end of this season, Everton performed very well. The reason is that in Everton's last 5 matches in the Premier League, the result has always been a win. Even against a strong team like Liverpool, Everton was able to win. So if you look at Everton's current performance, it looks like Luton will have difficulty winning the match.
In the last 3 weeks, we can see that Everton has continuously managed to collect full points. And this could indeed be a sign that Everton will also be superior in the match against Luton. But if we look at the history of meetings between the two teams or head to head, then we will start to doubt Everton, who always loses to Luton. And this defeat always occurs when Everton is the host. The two defeats occurred at the start of the Premier League season and in the FA Cup. Currently, Luton really needs points to get out of the relegation zone, so it is very possible that Luton can get points from this match. Because Luton will host the match this week.

But I'm not interested in betting on this match. Because matches involving teams in the relegation zone are sometimes very difficult to predict. Likewise, it is difficult for us to predict matches that always involve teams ranked in the top 5 and above. At the end of the season things got even more difficult.
I think if we really follow the trend in Everton indeed we will see a great possibility for Everton will get a victory in the opening match this week, but indeed looking at their head to head meeting will be very doubtful, but I think the previous is different from Everton at this time if they really have good consistency, as before they can beat Liverpool 2-0 which is a tough opponent but can beat it very well it is an extraordinary progress.

No matter how Luton starch is trying its best to get out of the relegation zone, seeing Nottingham Forest helpless in the last few games of the brand makes the opportunity for Luton to get out and be able to participate in the English premier league next season again.
This is quite confusing because one of them is in a depressed state trying to get out of the zone and the other is in a very good state in the last week, placing bets will be very confusing in this match, it is better to find another match that we can predict better.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 01, 2024, 02:34:17 PM
If you look at these two teams by comparing their performance in the domestic league I don't think it's fair because we don't know how tough the competition is in the league, it will definitely have a difference in the tension of the competition. I agree that Bayern Leverkusen have been amazing this season both in the domestic league and in other leagues, likewise Roma haven't really given their best performance in the league, but overall I think they are pretty evenly matched and both have their own style of play so maybe they won't be too aggressive and pay attention to each other's matches first.

It can't be like that, but maybe what can be different is the mentality will definitely be affected if Roma have a losing streak.
I would say that while it is not possible to calculate the league difficulty difference, we could say that a team that has been unbeaten for 40+ games and won the league above Bayern Munich is still by far better than a team that failed to beat out Bologna in the serie A to be in the top four.

If we had like Inter winning the title but Roma being second or something like that then we could maybe argue, then we would say if Inter is better or Bayern (even in that case Bayern is better for me) but we are talking about fifth of Serie A versus the team that did not lose for 40+ games in a row now, including their domestic cup, their league and europa all together. So they could end up with three titles in a single season and already guaranteed one, the other seems quite easy and all they have left is this one.
Yes it is natural to say that if you look at it from your point of view structure, I would not also argue if that was the case, because indeed if you look at the domestic league standings As Roma are much worse than their best and Roma's defeat this season in Serie A is much more than Bayern Leverkusen, as well as Leverkusen who have outstanding achievements this season in the Bundes League and pressing Bayern Munich not to get the title this season is an extraordinary achievement, so yes if you look at it from this point of view I would definitely say the same thing as what you said.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Atomic Wallet Staking Rewards For LUNC Is 38% on: May 01, 2024, 02:17:05 PM
Stake where you are comfortable, those that still hold this coin don't have an option to sell especially those that are in deep losses because of the debacle it has been involved.

IIRC, they've got some other new token generated out of this lunc(former luna). If you have no issues staking it to wallets like atomic then choose to stake it.

Most of the holders of it just don't have a choice anymore but to keep it than to sell it at 99% when they've bought mostly of it at the peak before the issue of it sparked up.
I personally don't feel comfortable if I have to stake in a coin that has a red flag, this must also be thought of by other people in making investments, just like gambling, but indeed if you want to try and feel LUNC, you will experience a reversal because it is taken care of by different people, which is up to you whether you are ready for the risk.
Many people think too positively but forget about the risks they will receive if it is not what they expect.

Yes, if you still have the coin if there is a staking program, in my opinion, why not try it, but whether or not it really rewards us or is just further fraud, we have to think about it again to believe it.

@khiholangkang I conspiring with your bold and cleared emotional expressions.
For a coin to have got red tag, that's already a hmm that investors has to be twice of thoughts before Investing their funds in such a project. We should understand that red tags are significance of unprofessional service and disreputable remarks which uncertain strange of bitter funny is liable to occur.

While Investors are being so curious and desperate to catch up in making some funds, fast forwards ignorantly, settles their emotions on the interests of making incomes and ignores the fact that the same project can also have their funds lost due to the level of their ignorance and greeds.
The balls has been on each and everyone's court to decide the tendencies of our actions.
Thank you for the affirmation, and indeed we need to be firm and logical in terms of investment because this has to do with money that we need energy, thought and time to get money that has value, not to be wasted again for nothing.

Stake where you are comfortable, those that still hold this coin don't have an option to sell especially those that are in deep losses because of the debacle it has been involved.

IIRC, they've got some other new token generated out of this lunc(former luna). If you have no issues staking it to wallets like atomic then choose to stake it.

Most of the holders of it just don't have a choice anymore but to keep it than to sell it at 99% when they've bought mostly of it at the peak before the issue of it sparked up.
I personally don't feel comfortable if I have to stake in a coin that has a red flag, this must also be thought of by other people in making investments, just like gambling, but indeed if you want to try and feel LUNC, you will experience a reversal because it is taken care of by different people, which is up to you whether you are ready for the risk.
Many people think too positively but forget about the risks they will receive if it is not what they expect.

Yes, if you still have the coin if there is a staking program, in my opinion, why not try it, but whether or not it really rewards us or is just further fraud, we have to think about it again to believe it.
Those that don't have anything to do with their LUNC as it's already a total loss and devastation for them, they can do whatever they want. Stake, hold or sell at total loss.

That's why for someone that doesn't have anything to lose anymore, a 38% APY is actually an interesting one but I doubt it that Atomic Wallet can sustain that.

When there will be more stakers that will come to their wallet, they're going to reduce that APY for sure.
And we need to look back at who is behind the Atomic wallet and why they offer such a large APY for such a coin, of course this needs to provide a logical answer so that it can be accepted even though as you said they are far from LUNC, we don't know what is behind the developers, what agreement they agreed behind it, or just an initiative from Atomic wallet to increase its popularity, or there is something else that can be used by them.
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you increasing your bitcoin investments because of today halving ? on: April 29, 2024, 06:09:13 AM
First and foremost, even without halving, I’m already determined to increase my hodlings because I believe of bitcoin’s high potentials to grow in the future.
Me too.

I've got plans to buy as well but we can't deny that the halving and the cycle really is encouraging for each of us to buy as much as we can.
Well, this is the most important thing. If we believe that this technology will have a very high price in the future, then before or after the halving, we need to collect it continuously. I also believe that the price of bitcoin will be very high in the future, especially after the halving. If I had focused on investing in bitcoin, I would still buy it regularly.

Buy according to your ability and have a good calculation, don't focus too much on very difficult things in life such as expecting more in bitcoin because you feel that after halving it can increase significantly, find your way of investing in bitcoin, because someone's mentality may be different and or more depressed if you experience a decline in the price of bitcoin, lucky if you are still buying what if you panic and even sell the bitcoin you have bought. this is where the importance of investment strategies, bitcoin accumulation targets, sales targets, investment targets and targets until you feel enough, realize the form of a term so that your purchase is attractive and not impulsive.

This is where the importance of investment strategy, bitcoin accumulation target, sales target, investment target and target until where you feel enough, realize it in the form of a term so that your buyer is more attractive and not impulsive. I also believe that one year after the halving will move bitcoin to a new high in 2025, so let's accumulate gradually and in a safer way with good money management too.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 29, 2024, 05:48:29 AM
Quote from: LGD2Business
Arsenal won one of their toughest matches. Many people expected them to lose points against Tottenham, but they dictated the game they wanted from the beginning of the match and won with 3 goals in the first half. Manchester City also won their match, but this was to be expected, their opponent was very weak. It was very important for Arsenal to win this match, they are still not in full control but psychologically they are equal to City.

I thought Arsenal will lose points against Tottenham Hotspur in that match, because Tottenham Hotspur know how to use home advantage to play their opponent but it was a surprised to many people in the first half for Arsenal strikes to begin to gain access to Tottenham Hotspur goalpost to scored three goals. If not that Tottenham Hotspur was not balanced in the first half, I don't think Arsenal would have achieved all those three goals, because Tottenham Hotspur late scored two goals but there was no time for them to equalize the goals before the end of the match. Arsenal and Manchester city won their match yesterday to continue leading their position, but Arsenal is still using one point to top Manchester city which I know that Manchester city will definitely take over that position from them soon.

It should be like that, but in fact Arsenal in the first half really dominated and collected a lot of goals so that they got the victory in last night's match, if only Arsenal did not collect 3 goals in the first half, most likely Tottenham would be able to bring the match to a draw, if you look at the second half it is completely different with Tottenham getting up and making goals as a form of resistance.

3-2 for the final result makes everyone almost think that Arsenal were lucky in the first half. Arsenal and Man city are still competing like last season and their difference is only one point, this is quite crucial and too thin for Arsenal to be in a safe position from the shadow of Man City who will pursue it.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Atomic Wallet Staking Rewards For LUNC Is 38% on: April 29, 2024, 05:16:15 AM
Stake where you are comfortable, those that still hold this coin don't have an option to sell especially those that are in deep losses because of the debacle it has been involved.

IIRC, they've got some other new token generated out of this lunc(former luna). If you have no issues staking it to wallets like atomic then choose to stake it.

Most of the holders of it just don't have a choice anymore but to keep it than to sell it at 99% when they've bought mostly of it at the peak before the issue of it sparked up.
I personally don't feel comfortable if I have to stake in a coin that has a red flag, this must also be thought of by other people in making investments, just like gambling, but indeed if you want to try and feel LUNC, you will experience a reversal because it is taken care of by different people, which is up to you whether you are ready for the risk.
Many people think too positively but forget about the risks they will receive if it is not what they expect.

Yes, if you still have the coin if there is a staking program, in my opinion, why not try it, but whether or not it really rewards us or is just further fraud, we have to think about it again to believe it.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 29, 2024, 04:56:45 AM
Just like you rightly said, Bayer Leverkusen on paper have is easily the favorite team to win their UEFA Europa League semi final tie against AS Roma because of their superior performance in all competitions this season but because of how impressive the Italian club have been since Daniele De Rossi took over the managerial position at the club, I don think it'll be good idea not to give the the German team a chance of pulling a surprise in the two legged tie. Roma since their current manager took over have been exceptionally impressive which is why they were able to eliminate a big club like AC Milan from the UEFA Europa League competition  so against Bayer Leverkusen, I think the Roma has chance of reaching the final
Leverkusen are stronger than Roma and create more impression in this season than Roma. They also have better preparation for the first semi final match because they don't have to spend their best resources for their match in Bundesliga. Roma oppositely had to use their best players for Serie A match with Napoli and they still need to fight in Serie A for a fourth or fifth position. Roma's current position means they still have risk to lose a fifth position to Atalanta and Lazio so they will need to keep their eyes on two competitions, Europa League and Serie A.

Leverkusen will have big advantage against Roma in both two semi final matches because the schedule of Roma is very terrible. They have two matches with Napoli and Juventus before two semi finals with Leverkusen.
If you look at these two teams by comparing their performance in the domestic league I don't think it's fair because we don't know how tough the competition is in the league, it will definitely have a difference in the tension of the competition. I agree that Bayern Leverkusen have been amazing this season both in the domestic league and in other leagues, likewise Roma haven't really given their best performance in the league, but overall I think they are pretty evenly matched and both have their own style of play so maybe they won't be too aggressive and pay attention to each other's matches first.

It can't be like that, but maybe what can be different is the mentality will definitely be affected if Roma have a losing streak.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 28, 2024, 01:13:49 PM
Can't believe that Liverpool only drew with West Ham, can't believe that their striker is having difficulty scoring goals, their performance has gotten worse since the defeat to Atalanta in the European League, and Mohammad Salah can only score goals through penalty kicks, and Darwin Nunez and Luis Diaz is even worse, how could they have performed so badly in their last two matches and this is a very crucial moment, and they failed this season even though they were not a team that was predicted to be in the top four or as title contender, but this failure was still very disappointing.

The only thing I can say about Liverpool is that they have ran out of luck so there's nothing for them to do to survive this horrible display. I disagree with you about Diaz and Nunez because they're the ones who put much effort to change the poor performance of Liverpool of late but the both of them are just unlucky especially Diaz but for Salah he is having a bad season if you ask me. I can't blame Salah because age has a way of changing the performance of some players and we all know he's an injury prone player and I don't think we're going to see him renew his contract at Liverpool.

Salah does not have the performance he used to have, a lot of injuries he suffered made him not as brave as before and a lot of fear of the injuries he received after many injuries he experienced so his movements were quite slow, Liverpool lost his productivity and Nunez was also the same he could not do much in his activities so I think it also reduced his productivity, some people talk there is tension in the internal liverpool which resulted in the last few games liverpool lost, this is what might also make the liverpool squad lose itself, the draw and loss to everton makes us believe that Liverpool has lost its fangs at the end of this season.
13  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: My decision on bitcoin on: April 28, 2024, 12:11:33 PM
BTC is expensive in the eyes of some beginners, but successful people are usually people who are able and ready with all the risks seen now it is expensive for BTC, but if you are strong and hold it until time, I think 2 units of mobile phones even more you will get back with a better brand.

My friend, the post-halving moment will provide something big later even though there is a slight difference later because this moment is eagerly awaited by many people including you and all who believe in bitcoin. Yes. You've made a bold initial decision of course
BTC will be seen as expensive because the price is not playing games if we buy 1 bitcoin, most people are oriented towards the price circle so that they think it is expensive, and indeed most beginners also do not understand how the price of bitcoin moves so that their thoughts do not reach the old investors, what old investors see is that the low point of bitcoin every cycle is getting higher and the high point of bitcoin every cycle is getting higher and so on making them think that investing in bitcoin will never lose even though market fluctuations are very high, on the basis that we only need to invest in the long term such as one cycle or two cycles to get profits. so buy now and sell in the next bullrun cycle the thought must be instilled, but rarely do people dare to invest in bitcoin.
so buy now and sell in the next bullrun cycle the thought that must be instilled, but rarely do people dare.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Altcoins to invest right now on: April 28, 2024, 11:51:23 AM
I am currently sitting on 5k (50% BTC and 50% ETH) and now want to invest another 5k in Altcoins.

I am thinking about splitting it in 5x 1000, what would be your choice? Which 5 altcoins would you choose?

And would you include Moonbeam (GLMR) in your choice?
You nee to do your research so you can know what altcoins could blow the market and make many people millionaires. To make money in the crypto market is not very hard and the best way is for us to make sure that we invest in the right project. You can as well buy bonk and other tokens too that you feel has a good momentum that could make you more money when you hold them. The market is huge with plenty of good and bad tokens so you will need to do that yourself and check for the good ones.
you offer memecoins and you don't know how the project works like you are playing gambling on coins, we have to know how the project works, who are the investors who are the developers and what is the vision going forward and tokenomic and also the system that is run in the development of the project needs to be considered so that when you invest in it you have a reason why you are investing in that coin.

I think we need to see the L2 bitcoin project is quite interesting in its development and can be an option to monitor in my opinion, however we need to see where the market direction will move and attract many investors to invest in a project.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lies told to cover up gambling habit on: April 28, 2024, 11:34:37 AM
Another big fucking lie is that it's a hobby or I'm doing it for fun, your doing it for fun and it's costing you a fortune then you must be a fucking out of your mind, I've heard some person saying that they take gambling as a hobby and that is the biggest fraud lie anyone told himself, do you feel bad when you lose? Yes, then how is that fun, fun is supposed to be entertaining not to make you sad about lose.
You will always gamblers tell that they are there to gamble for fun but when they win, it is giving more fun. Ans when they are on a losing streak, it is no longer fun.

It is entertaining and fun to gamble but it is certainly a lie that gamblers who tell that, are only actual for fun.
Try a deeper meaning, if you read the truth about why someone can claim that gambling is a hobby of his to seek pleasure, here I am not trying to find validation, but look at how a person treats a hobby whatever the field is, and if someone is impulsive then he is trapped in the hobby itself which causes addiction, then there is no such thing as a hobby anymore in him, because if you look at me personally I come when I want and gamble to feel happy, especially when I am with friends.

It is true that winning will bring great pleasure into our lives, and losing will get sadness is the doctrine that occurs, but it is not that simple if you understand what is called seeking entertainment in gambling, and the name of the entertainment place definitely requires you to spend money.
16  Economy / Economics / Re: Also consider your mental State of health while investing for wealths. on: April 28, 2024, 11:13:54 AM
Hal ii will be useful for ourselves in assessing a risk profile so as not to focus on one asset, you need diversified investment and need to have a good money management so that a good source of income so that your investment is in good condition, things that interfere mentally are usually because we cannot accept the fact that what we have is lost, For example, investing in real estate, we use our money to invest in that sector everything is affected by disasters and everything is lost and of course it will make me stressed, this is a simple thing to destroy your mentality, whatever assets we invest in including bitcoin if we have good management will have a bad impact, many people are made crazy by this.
Considering having investments in several assets, of course this will be able to give us satisfactory profits for us in investing, because if we only have one type of investment then if we cannot make a profit of course we will experience losses and will not be able to make a profit. profit from the investment that we make, in investing of course there will be a risk of loss that we will face and also profit and we must be ready to face if there is a problem with the investment that we carry out and we must be prepared for all the situations that we will face in carrying out the investment , good management of funds in investments will enable us to obtain good profits, because without financial management it will certainly be difficult for us to obtain the profits we get from the investments we make.
Well that, therefore diversification is very important in building an investment portfolio, because it is indeed a net investment to benefit from an investment, focusing on one asset whatever it is8 the investment will be very dangerous for our investment funds, always manage well the investment funds and future investment plans so that our mentality can be neatly arranged, mental attacks are easier to attack us and will be very dangerous for mental health if something happens.

In the financial world this is very sensitive so make sure whatever the risk we need to consider and prepare how to anticipate it.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling A Hobby? on: April 27, 2024, 09:56:26 PM
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Winning and losing are normal in gambling, especially we are talking about luck which cannot be invited by anyone when fighting against the house, don't think too much about luck it is a will beyond our control, we just need to do it for fun and luck does not need to be sought that massively.

Although winning and losing is something normal in a game. However, when it comes to gambling, many of them are gamblers who continue to chase their losses. Gambling has become more than just a hobby, they have lost a lot of money there in pursuit of something they are not sure they will get.

And speaking of fun in gambling, where does the fun lie? Meanwhile, a person will only feel happy when he feels satisfied, and satisfaction in gambling when he gets a big enough win. And no one feels happy when the money they have is lost for nothing in the gambling they do or in the bets they place. And this is also what causes someone to continue gambling even though they have often experienced losses, they continue gambling in the hope that the losses they experienced previously can be replaced by wins that they are not sure they will get. Even though there is pleasure in gambling, the pleasure is only temporary, because in gambling there is no winning that can last in the long term.
I often say that the fun will come when you know why you are gambling, the initial setting that you are not looking for money in the gambling place, because it will require you in every game must get a win, I often notice that people like this are more likely to be depressed and not looking for fun, this is a matter of perspective, I have done gambling without winning but I feel proud and happy, for example I get a multiplier but I don't play back from the results of the multiplier until it runs out, I can only take the tape to be arrogant with my friends, even though I actually got nothing. and other things like I am bored because there is a lot of empty time and use the time to gamble, maybe only for an hour or two, then I continue my mandatory activities I feel my day is perfect and there is no time I waste for nothing.
And other things like I was bored because I had a lot of free time and used the time to gamble, maybe only an hour or two, then I continued my obligatory activities I felt my day was perfect and there was no time I wasted and that's where I felt happy, I admit that every human being if they get a win must be happy, but every pleasure does not have to be because of winning, just like you hobby play moba games in trolling.
18  Economy / Economics / Re: Also consider your mental State of health while investing for wealths. on: April 27, 2024, 09:40:33 PM
Hal ii will be useful for ourselves in assessing a risk profile so as not to focus on one asset, you need diversified investment and need to have a good money management so that a good source of income so that your investment is in good condition, things that interfere mentally are usually because we cannot accept the fact that what we have is lost, For example, investing in real estate, we use our money to invest in that sector everything is affected by disasters and everything is lost and of course it will make me stressed, this is a simple thing to destroy your mentality, whatever assets we invest in including bitcoin if we have good management will have a bad impact, many people are made crazy by this.
19  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Diskusi Timnas Indonesia on: April 26, 2024, 03:08:11 PM
Akhirnya kita melaju ke semifinal setelah menang adu pinalty, aduh, salahnya saya kenapa gak nge-bet draw [1]. Padahal draw ama menang beda-beda tipis oddnya.

[1]. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494189.0
Oddnya cukup besar memang tetapi itu cukup disesalkan karena odds 4.xx harus hilang begitu saja Cheesy
Tetapi memang untuk hal ini saya juga memiliki nasib yang sama dengan mas nya karena saya mengalami kekalahan karena bertaruh di Indonesia dalam pertandingan kemarin tetapi karena taruhan saya kecil saya tidak terlalu merasakan sesak karena terobati dengan euforia yang terjadi untuk hari ini.

Pertandingan yang sangat bagus meskipun ada beberapa yang masih harus diperbaiki terutama untuk masalah finishing dan penguasaan dalam mencoba untuk tendangan spekulasi tetapi ini adalah kemajuan untuk timnas kita karena selain dari baru pertama kali nya kita menorehkan sejarah baru ke semi final serta kemungkinan besar untuk berada di olimpiade paris kita juga berhasil mengalahkan dan menghancurkan catatan apik korea karena ini adalah kali pertama mereka harus tersingkir dan tidak mengikuti olimpiade setelah dalam satu dekade terakhir terus berada di kompetisi itu.

Ini kemajuan yang sangat luar biasa dan sepertinya hampir semua orang (kecuali pengkritik STY) senang dengan hasil yang didapat saat ini sehingga taruhan saya yang kalah tidak terlalu menjadi penyesalan karena euforia yang diberikan hari ini Cheesy

btw saat ini timeline medsos saya dipenuhi dengan Indonesia ada yang lucu seperti ketika meminta pindah benua atau rematch dengan Argentina dan ada juga yang memang sedang mengolok-olok beberapa pengamat bola yang tidak suka dengan STY wkwkwk
Mungkin banyak juga yang kalah atas taruhan pertandingan Indonesia vs Korea, sangat menyenangkan melihat patriotisme dan percaya pada negara kita untuk mendapatkan kemenangan walalupun hanya jalur pertaruhan, hahahaha, andai saja pertandingan tidak berakhir dengan imbang, mungkin kita semua akan mendapatkan kebahagiaan lebih ketika pada akhirnya Indonesia lolos ke babak semi final.

Ini memang catatan sejarah baru negara kita, walaupun kita di bantu oleh banyak pemain naturalisasi menurut saya itu menjadi masalah dan malah saya merasa bangga dan jiwa indonesia ada dalam mereka, kita semua selalu berharap yang terbaik untuk indonesia dan membuat industri sepak bola di indonesia semakin menarik perhatian dan memiliki kemajuan yang luar biasa jika di picu hal ini, olimpiade paris adalah target selanjutnya semoga saja bisa mendapatkan takdir yang sangat baik untuk timnas kita.

Apakah yang anda tertawakan Towel, saya tidak ingin banyak berbicara, dia seperti orang pandai tetapi tidak memiliki riwayat yang bagus di timnas.LOL
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling A Hobby? on: April 26, 2024, 02:46:01 PM
From passion to hobby to addiction ...I think this are the 3 steps of gambling and for a lot of gamblers the first two doesn't exist. However , gambling should be treated as a passion and a hobby but as long as you don't bet a lot ( i rarely have bets over 10$ ) , I think it's fair to say that gambling is more of a passion than a hobby. Being a hobby means you will bet daily right ? and betting daily will form an addiction...

Not sure if every player who bets daily is experiencing problem gambling currently. Gambling has limitations which must be enforced by the gambler to escape addiction. However, it's risky, gambling everyday. All days are not same for everyone. Some days could get so exhausting but the player still wants to fulfil his daily gambling hobby. Such reccuring behavior would get worse if the player doesn't stop for a break. It depends on the player's will power towards his self control. Looking at the differences on your response regarding gambling as a passion. Personally I'd say passion is something one can't let go in a lifetime. Gambling as a passion looks riskier in my view.

Of course, if someone gambles every day and doesn't care about himself, he doesn't make gambling a hobby but more like a job and you can be sure that person is addicted to gambling, the passion is always there every day but when you want to do gambling, it is always there to accompany you.
Someone who does their hobby well does feel addicted but they can do it for a limited time, for example 2x a week or 4 times a month or you can say 1 time a week, this is what needs to be seen, if someone does their hobby every day it is a foolishness and excessive action, however it will definitely be considered an excessive person in gambling, someone needs to learn again how to treat gambling as a good hobby.

     -     Playing gambling every day can't really be considered a hobby, instead it's a vice and they consider it a job even though it's not really in reality.

Because the hobby is only done once in a while when you want or just want to have fun. It seems that even if you play the game once and still win the game, it can really be considered as luck that you won the game.
Isn't it the same as I think, sometimes people are too naive about their activities, they don't know that what they do is a vice that can destroy them every day, just like people who do soccer every day will definitely kill them quickly.

Winning and losing are normal in gambling, especially we are talking about luck which cannot be invited by anyone when fighting against the house, don't think too much about luck it is a will beyond our control, we just need to do it for fun and luck does not need to be sought that massively.
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