But it depends on the project itself I think sir and how strong it holds against the market waves, instead of us investing in spot and keeping the coins we have, then we have aspirations to get a decent profit from the coin from holding on to the long term more good in my opinion staking coins to make the coins you have multiply and increase profits if a bullrun arrives, just like in ETH even though we get payments with a percentage below 10%, but that's better, the focus here is not how much the staking payment is do but how logically the project provides payments to investors who do staking, this needs to be looked at and taken into account.
The payout that the op mentioned at 22% is too high and illogical, this should be questioned again with the project being done, this is quite crazy, this project could turn out to be a scam in the end.

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That's terrible advice guys, let's see what they have and what they work on, if it's only useful for betting it's not worth it and what is the main reason they can get such a large number of investors if it's only one ecosystem that they offer for this, car development electricity is irrelevant to what is meant by the benefits of a project, if they succeed in this project will we also benefit from their success in developing electric cars?, if the analogy is like stocks and we get dividends from holding this coin, then this Interestingly enough, if there were no such thing, then the people who bought this would just be lenders with nothing in return, and investors would lose their money.
The vision is pretty cool, but unrealistic.

yes, we often hear formulas like this, and there are a lot of them, besides what he is trying to explain is not complex with what methods and pathways, he only explains in principle what is common knowledge today.
I think it also doesn't help in terms of starting a business, because basically to develop capital we need what field we will be involved in and we will try, to be honest, business is dynamic like humans as well as principles, sometimes we have to change because it adapts to the needs of conditions.
I hope he shows what he has achieved today by relying solely on that principle. lol

This sort of thing does recur, lots of previous threads have been discussed maybe for some people this is a bit stale and yes those who remember will know this, but it doesn't matter because each discussion with a different analogy leads to a different train of thought in the future even though in essence it has the same essence, and again this can be used as a solution to remind some people who they might forget, because human nature is forgetful, it needs to be added that this will be a concern for new people who enter this forum and they didn't find this by accident, because it might be piled up with other discussions if they were purposely looking.

Does Elon Musk like esports? i don't think about it anything about him including E-sports, instead of him buying the team i think its better he buy the games all at once much better i think lol.
Judging from what he has done he is more interested in the world of technology and development, but if you think about it some of his companies are experiencing stagnant development and on average experiencing a decline, it is unlikely in the near term for elon to buy a new company or business , he was busy preparing himself to fight with Mark, instead of thinking about what he should buy again and doing experiments.

Soil conditions are indeed different in every country, even in one country there are many different soil conditions in each region. And yes, we only need to understand what plants are suitable for the soil to be cultivated, but you also have to understand that some agricultural products that are needed by other people or become basic needs, of course this is quite difficult if you plant crops that are not really needed by other people or other countries, with so much land that can only be planted with some plants it does not support that the results of agriculture will be needed, this is back again to market demand.
I think this thought must exist in doing any business including agriculture.

But talking crypto doesn't mean talking bitcoin, 19% of adoption is indeed a good growth but we don't know what percentage is purely investing their money in bitcoin, I don't think that's clean data on bitcoin adoption.
But I hope that people who make purchases from altcoins will wake up and switch to bitcoin, in fact bitcoin is like the sun that gives life and will never go extinct, even though it is attacked a lot, but this awareness is very difficult, humans will realize where they are having difficulties , hopefully they are aware of bitcoin before their regrets come in old age.

Like that is the mechanism of traits that exist in investors, they are more interested in what appears on their main veranda and see people experience a fairly high increase in assets, such as the dream for the continuation of the coin breaks egg The situation holds longer or sells in a state of loss, a difficult choice if in that situation.
Buying a coin without hype will be very doubtful, even though we have a strong fundamental analysis, I analyze and calculate the potential then buy the coin in a state not hype whose movements are very slow, instead it is increasingly doubtful that it will get a decent profit despite having a good fundamental from in terms of the project.
And indeed it is very difficult to get information to be a hype or there will be a hype manipulation event, because the increase that is not thought is the increase that is manipulated.

I agree with you, and also the increase in the price of real estate assets does depend on the geographical situation of the place if you find a place in a metropolitan city, it will definitely develop fast, but it does require enough resources if we want to invest in it especially if you want to build property on it Or shops or anything, but indeed this can be more clearly calculated the benefits in the long time if you are able to manage it well.
Some additions in investing in Bitcoin we do not require maintenance costs like real estate, and have it without having to pay annual taxes.

I don't think so, because Dedollarization is more precisely related to transactions between countries that do not use the dollar as a transaction tool, so it will return to the country that is conducting the transaction, whether to continue to use the dollar as a transaction tool or use its own currency.
This includes cooperation, today Paypal may issue its stable coin which is pegged to the dollar, but that is not an indicator that the dollar will be used, if the transacters are China and Indonesia, for example, China buys goods from Indonesia using rupiah as well as Indonesia using yuan when you want to buy goods from China.
But maybe retail trading, preferring stablecoins to make transactions. CMIIW

kemungkinan besar dia memiliki kasus atau keterkaitan masalah dengan orang lain yang menyebabkannya menjadi korban pembenuhan, ini lebih logis daripada di incar secara brutal tanpa ada masalah dan hanya mengincar hartanya, daripada dia saya pikir Vitalik, Justin Sun, Cangpeng Zhao, Charles Hoskinson dan founder lainnya lebih menarik untuk di jadikan target perampokan.

Seleb indo memang banyak yang menunjukan dirinya seperti Angga Dinata dan Timothy yang cukup blak-blakan dalam investasinya di bitcoin, mereka tetap aman.
Saya setuju dengan mas, karena untuk apa terkenal jika sudah kaya, rata-rata orang ingin terkenal karena mereka belum kaya, yang membuatnya untuk terus menerus meningkatkan personal branding supaya mendapatkan banyak pengikut dan panggilan, begitupun saya juga ingin terkenal jika memiliki peluang, yang anonim hanya perlu identitas dan penyimpanan saya saja.

As a result of shiba and doge indeed making meme coin developers explode to create many new meme projects, without using more resources as is common for other coin development, we have to be really careful if we really want to join memecoin because it is very dangerous, lags some time Of course, you will lose money easily.
talking about the title that the scam on the meme coin project doesn't damage the image of crypto, because if you look at the many scam coin memes it doesn't become a concern and conversation for anyone, unless Shiba and doge are bankrupt, it will most likely damage the name of crypto in the market.

If we look at it from the time structure, it is still quite far to count until the bullrun arrives, the halving catalyst which is an indicator of price movement is also still quite far away and I think if we wait for it day by day it will be very long and tiring, letting it run as it should, it will make time go faster.
The bitcoin halving is currently 258 days away, of course that is a very long time.
After next month is the final quarter of the year, so let's hope that time flies fast and we enter the space in 2024.


Yeah maybe we won't be happy on the way forward, some time I came across information that Huobi has a problem, what I'm afraid is they become like FTX that crashes the market, hopefully that doesn't happen to Huobi and bitcoin can continue price development without any such pressure.

When comparing investments, I think it's better for you to invest in yourself to improve your abilities and knowledge, so that your old age will be much more beautiful if you have knowledge and abilities, you will definitely get a better position.
You diversify your wealth into two assets, namely bitcoin and gold, which is a fairly safe action, because both are resistant to inflation, even though both have different characteristics from price fluctuations, gold is much more consistent, even though its gain is only a few percent per year, but bitcoin is quite volatile in calculations. years, even so bitcoin certainly provides more returns than what you can imagine in your old age.

Making Bitcoin as a retirement fund is indeed quite risky, where is the risk? the place where the bitcoin is stored, if we don't store it in a place that only we ourselves control it is very dangerous, secondly to the mentality that we have, if we are mentally disturbed because there will be a lot of drama as before on the journey of increasing the price of bitcoin, we can just sell it at a loss out of fear of the journey of holding bitcoins. but the wise respond to this and continue to hold bitcoin into old age surely get enough returns for your retirement.

identifying meme coins is very difficult, the main benchmark for assessing is how many communities and market caps are also the development of the token, it can be relied upon when compared to other meme coins.
 
In the mechanism there are those who profit, then there must be losses, those who are profitable buy it early and those who lose are those who buy at the end of the price increase which in the end freefalls again when people have thrown away their coins, that's how they work.
The probability of a meme coin is very small, of course you have to pay attention and be careful, don't use money that shouldn't be invested there.

Izinkan saya untuk mereview beberapa postingan terakhir, rasanya saya sudah lama tidak melakukannya, dan juga penting untuk di lanjut, karena reviewer sangat membantu dalam meningkatkan postingan rekan-rekan.
(disclaimer bahwa bukan bermaksud postingan agan jelek atau apa, tetapi ini bersifat subjektif sesuai dengan pandangan dan pengetahuan kecil saya, mohon maaf untuk itu)

1. Saya pikir postingan anda yang ini berada di pinggir jurang pembahasan, tetapi jika di runtut lebih dalam masih ada keterkaitan.
2. Saya rasa korelasinya kurang tepat, dengan apa itu politik identitas dengan apa yang anda coba gambarkan, 3. Memang banyak indikator yang mempengaruhi naik turunnya nilai tukar RP>USD, tetapi jika dollar melemah bukan berarti rupiah menguat, jika kondisi kedua mata uang ini memiliki demand yang sama-sama berkurang maka rupiah pun tidak akan meningkat nilainya.
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5. Anda ternyata memiliki cerita yang lebih dalam beraktivitas di dunia crypto currency, saya harap anda berbagi lebih jauh tentang pemahaman anda pak di insdustri ini.
6. Ini adalah postingan yang saya hargai sebelumnya pada utas diskusi yang saya buat, dan memang kesadaran diri atas moral adalah tonggak utama dalam menjabat sebagai penguasa.
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8. Legalisasi perjudian sangat sulit di indonesia, jaman dulu saja saat Jakarta melegalkan perjudian itu tidak berlangsung lama, karena memang perjudian sangat tidak bisa di toleransi, apalagi mayoritas muslim mengetahui bahwa perjudian di larang di agamanya, pastinya akan menjadi konflik besar jika di berikan legalitas.
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10. Mantap, tetapi pastinya ketika mengajarkan bitcoin kepada anak, ketika mereka tumbuh besar pastinya akan penasaran dengan besaran jumlah bitcoin yang anda miliki, dia akan berusaha mengtahuinya.


1. Postingan yang sangat informatif dan terstruktur, keren +1.
2. interaktif dan lugas dengan memberikan penjelasan yang lumayan explisit, saya suka.
3. common sense
4. Tingkatan pendidikan ilmu pengetahuan itu tidaklah menjadi patokan orang berbuat perilaku yang baik siapa pun itu, sekalipun DPR yang menyembunyikan sifat buruknya ketika sebelum dan sedang mengkampanyekan dirinya sebagai calon.
5. Mungkin pemerintah ingin memverifikasi pelapor untuk di masukan ke dalam daftar pelapor, yang mungkin  suatu hari mengundang anda mengecek kembali websitenya.
6. Hal ini tidak menjadi citra buruk ke crypto, ini murni kesalahan orang itu sendiri yang melampaui prinsip investasi yang sehat dan berprilaku liar.
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8. Biasa saya sebut orang yang mengharapkan menjadi ASN atau PNS adalah orang terdahulu, karena memang tunjangan dan jaminan cukup menggiurkan hingga pada usia meninggal.
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10. Penggiringan perang budaya, tampaknya budaya liberal sudah cukup kuat tubuh di kalangan anak muda, dan hal ini tidak bisa terbendung karena bergerak lebih cepat, di banding pelajaran seni budaya di sekolah.

1. Besaran gaji yang di tawarkan dan juga fasilitas memang cukup menarik di singapura dan itu yang menjadikannya sangat menarik, ketika seseorang mendapatkan tawaran itu pastinya mereka akan mengambilnya, daripada bekerja di indonesia yang gaji UMRnya tidak cukup untuk kebutuhan pokok.
2. Trading harian dan mendapatkn untung setiap hari sangat sulit, bahkan dengan mentor sebaik apa pun, orang yang memiliki pengelaman jauh pun mereka mendapatkan lose pada aktivitas hariannya.
3. Anda membuat Utas yang keren dan penting untuk di bahas, apalagi kaum milenial dan zelenial. +1
4. common sense
5. Perhitungan yang lumayan kompleks.
6. Uni eropa, terutama negara2 barat memang takut jika negara yang menyuplai barang untuk kebutuhan produksi mereka dapat memproduksinya sendiri, tentu mereka akan kehilangan bahan baku dan juga pasar untuk produk mereka.
7. Tautan yang bagus
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9. common sense
10. Penjelasan yang bagus dan terimkasih tautannya.

1. Setiap kepala berbeda pemikiran, sudut pandang dan pengetahuan juga pengalaman, pastinya pro kontra akan ada sampai kapanpun.
2. Ya seharusnya tingkatan hukuman itu harus lebih trasnparan dan melekat sehingga tidak ada toleransi untuk hal-hal yang merugikan dalam skala tertentu dan HAM tidak berlaku untuk mereka.
3. Common sense
4. Common sense
5. Singkat & informatif
6. Common sense
7. Saran yang bagus
8. Common sense
9. Rata-rata orang yang menginginkan bekerja di luar negeri karena di dasarkan pada besaran jumlah pendapatannya, jadi orang yang memiliki gelar dan memiliki mental pekerja, merasa lebih baik bekerja di luar dengan gaji besar yang bisa menghargai kemampuannya.
10. Forum memiliki caranya untuk menanamkan pengetahuan dasa melalui cara ini, dan hal ini terdapat pembahasan yang berbeda setiap kali membuat utas baru.

1. Anda membuka pembahasan ini, itu sangat keren, dan kripto itu tidak kejam, karena itu bisa di kategorikan produk hasil buatan tangan manusia yang tidak memiliki sifat, kasus ini di karenakan manusianya sendiri.
2. Pemerintah hanya bisa mengingatkan warganya untuk menjaga identitasnya, selebihnya warga negara sendiri yang harus peduli dengan indititasnya, karena hal ini tidak bisa di kontrol oleh negara, kecuali aktivitas yang berintegrasi dengan negara.
3. Common sense
4. Saran yang bagus
5. Anda membuka pembahasan ini dan ini cukup menarik, karena menjadi tindakan yang buruk oleh anggota DPR di saat sedang melakukan pertemuan.
6. Lugas dan informatif dengan pembawaan cukup menarik.
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8. Anda berkomentar di utas yang saya buat saya cukup terkesan, dan memang benar bahwa KPK tidak seganas lagi seperti sebelum di revisi dan di rombak pejabatnya.
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10. Common sense.

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Terus tingkatkan dan jangan pernah merasa cukup dengan pengetahuan dan kemampuan yang dimiliki, terimakasih juga sebelumnya karena melampirkan postingan yang memang bermanfaat, terutama bagi pembaca, saya senang membacanya, ramaikan terus Sub Forum indonesia dengan postingan agan-agan yang berkualitas.

Saya kira hal itu adalah masih mending lah karena memang mereka ingin tahu cara bagaimana mendapatkan keuntungan dari crypto terutama dari bitcoin, setidaknya mereka walaupun banyak kegagalan dan tertipu oleh hal-hal semacam itu mereka berusaha dengan jalan yang dia temui, yang lebih parahnya dari pengalaman saya, ketika saya mendapatkan keuntungan dari industri ini adalah mereka hanya tahu meminta apa yang sudah saya hasilkan dari crypto, ini lebih menjengkelkan, sempat beberapa kali teman saya mempertanyakan bagaimana caranya mendapat keuntungan dari bitcoin, tetapi mereka hanya sebatas bilang ooohh saja tanpa ada tindak lanjut dari apa yang sudah saya jelaskan kepada mereka, sudah tidak mau berproses ditambah tidak mau belajar.

Mendapatkan keuntungan adalah bonus menurut saya dari mempelajari apa itu bitcoin dan cara kerjanya, berpikiran mendapatkan keuntungan merupakan rata-rata orientasi setiap orang, jadi itu bisa menjadi gerbang utama sebelum menyelam ke dalam teknologinya.

Yes what he did was to manipulate the market with his popularity, if only he was not the richest person in the year of the rise of doge coins, which became an indicator of the meme coin attracted many enthusiasts, maybe it had no influence on the market if the usual diaoang, but because he was the person in Handling in the economic world with the wealth of his assets and his company that made it had an influence on the stigma of people in responding to what he did.
The impression of manipulation is clearly visible, and yes, it is rich with many people who buy doge, but there are indeed many people who become rich from doge, but only a few early adapters.
And even if the coin logo is a dog, it will remain a meme coin, unless they make big changes to the coin doge and grow more utilities on their networks and coins may be different in the last stories.

Staking is the best option to get passive income, either paid using its ecosystem coin or the coin directly, being a liquidity provider is quite interesting and I am also interested in it, especially Eth, with considerable potential in the future, besides we get dividends or reward from our staking.
We can also get a capital gain in the future when the price of Ethereum increases many times, of course this is very pleasant and potential, rather than we do trading with limited knowledge, it will only make you difficult and lose money quickly.