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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Getting a loan to build mining rigs?
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on: January 27, 2014, 06:23:03 AM
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Hey all. Here is what I'm considering: Getting a $10,000 loan to buy parts to build mining rigs. The loan quote I got from Wells Fargo was $10000 for 60 months at 10.233% APR, monthly payment of $213.62. The risks I can think of are: 1. Bitcoin and altcoins crash in value so hard that no profit can be made. 2. Power surge destroys the rigs, even though they are plugged into surge protectors. 3. Freak natural disaster/fire destroys their location. 4. Someone somehow discovers where they are and steals them. 5. My income from apps I have on the app store suddenly stops. Apart from number 3 I think all are either totally avoidable, or such a low chance of happening that it is worth it. I think that number 5 is the most likely, but I highly doubt that the income would just suddenly stop. Slowly trickle down, month after month, but not stop. What do you guys think? Am I missing something? Based on www.coinwarz.comMining DOGE it would take a little more than 2 months to completely pay off the loan. Anyways, let me know your thoughts. Thanks
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining rigs
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on: January 25, 2014, 09:35:47 AM
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Based on numbers from Coinwarz.com I'd say absolutely!
Economically it is an excellent investment considering the risks.
Scrypt Asics are not worth it right now. The chances of a rig being obsolete soon is next to none. ROI is almost certain.
Here's how I see it (If I'm missing something, anyone is free to let me know!),
If you can make 10% annually on the stock market, your doing it right!
According to current prices and coin difficulty, a rig mining DOGE would pay for itself in about 2 months. That's making 600% annually! Assuming prices and difficulty stay the same of course.
The risks you would be taking with a mining rig are:
1. Power surge occurs. Your entire rig gets fried. Easily avoidable by always plugging the rig into a good surge protector.
2. component failure. If something on the rig fries, you have to replace the part to continue mining, but you also lose mining time. Every minute counts. The more time your miner is off, the more profit you just thew away.
3. The coin you are mining tanks in value. This can be remedied by using a pool such as Multipool.in and always mine the most profitable coin, and sell the coins for bitcoin as often as you can.
4. Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies as a whole crash in value. All of a sudden nobody want them anymore. (This is what I hear from "non-believers" lol). HIGHLY doubtful but still technically possible. The remedy for this would be to sell your Altcoins for Bitcoin, then sell the Bitcoin for USD as often as you can. The downside here, is that you won't experience any growth with the bitcoin price increase that will almost definitely happen over the long term.
As a whole, each risk is either avoidable, or will not cause catastrophic failure should the worst case scenario occur.
Short answer: Get a mining rig!
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bank of America covers Bitcoin - 1300$ fair price, potential for growth
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on: December 06, 2013, 07:17:01 AM
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people need to start getting used to the idea that if Bitcoin makes its mark, the banks will be there. that's what they do, make money from money. given their existing resources and some of the issues with Bitcoin, they will end up running the network. and if not the current banks, then those who run the network will be the banks.
Given that it's their business to make money with money, I can't see how any bank, big or small, could ignore bitcoin.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Satoshi's paper was submitted in academia would it earn a Masters or PhD?
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on: December 06, 2013, 05:30:29 AM
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Nope. A Masters or PhD thesis with less than 50 pages is too little.
Sadly that is true. A Ph.D thesis should have a minimum of 200-300 pages. That said, I don't think that it will be that hard to add some of the finer details to the original BTC paper and "elongate" it a bit. Has anyone tried printing out the original bitcoin source code yet? That would be an interesting piece of art if done correctly!
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Commemoritive Bitcoin Physical Coin ?
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on: December 06, 2013, 05:25:53 AM
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Unfortunately I have to say that I would not buy one. At least not for $10.
The use I see in something like this is for a keepsake piece, and to introduce people to bitcoin. Both are valid uses, just not something I see being worth $10 a pop.
Now if these were to be minted in silver, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. I don't mean to be a downer, other people may really enjoy them, at that price it just wouldn't be for me.
At $5 a piece, I would be MUCH more interested. But at that price, it might not be worth your time.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best Cold Storage solution?
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on: December 06, 2013, 03:19:18 AM
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Hey all, I just recently had 2.4 Bitcoin stolen from my coinlenders account, and I'm curious as to what the best solution is for cold storage?
Coinlenders didn't fold along with inputs.io? Apparently so. I emailed Trade Fortress, and was told bitcoin would be paid out based on how many each person had deposited. I have not received anything yet.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best Cold Storage solution?
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on: December 05, 2013, 09:16:06 AM
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I'm not sure, but I believe the M of N backups are in the upcoming release.
Sorry, I have no clue what "M of N backups" are... Could you please explain, or un-abbreviate? It's dividing the wallet into pieces and requiring a certain amount of them to rebuild the complete wallet. I've not yet used this feature with Armory, but I plan to. As I understand it, you can change the variables to different numbers. So, for example, you could divide your wallet into 5 pieces and require only 3 of them to recreate it entirely. This allows for excellent security and protection. You could place the 5 pieces in different, safe locations. It would require a thief to find three of them to steal your bitcoins. Yet, if two were destroyed (fire, flood, nuke, whatever), you could still recreate your entire wallet with the remaining 3. That's amazing! Lol I had no clue this could be done... God I love technology! I swear if I was born 100 years ago, and could see the future, I would probably go insane, just out of frustration with the current state of things.
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Economy / Speculation / 1 BTC = 1oz of GOLD.... We're sooooo close!
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on: December 04, 2013, 10:42:57 PM
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Hey people, anyone notice that 1 BTC is super close in value to 1oz of gold?
I'm not sure why, but I feel like this is a huge milestone or something.
Anyone else out there feel the same, or am i just crazy?
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best Cold Storage solution?
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on: December 04, 2013, 10:35:47 PM
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anyone think it's a good idea to memorize 8 characters of your seed, and then save the other 4 on the cloud?
This idea has a huge flaw unfortunately. I could simply forget the 8 characters I was supposed to remember. I would not entrust my money to my memory. :p
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best Cold Storage solution?
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on: December 04, 2013, 10:32:37 PM
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Bitcoinpaperwallet.com. Print one and have fun.
If I go that route, I'd need to buy a fireproof safe/lockbox. Actually I'd probably encrypt the PDF and store it somewhere local as well. Someone mentioned making an image of the private key, and encrypting that. That sounds pretty slick to me, and extremely difficult, if not impossible, for any virus to steal. This is one of the routes I will probably take.
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