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2061  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: KIBO - First Blockchain Lottery on: October 02, 2016, 05:28:12 AM
Tai of cryptocurrency market had quite some feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4LEag6HuU

Any rebuttal?

We don’t believe that publication of the team is a guarantee of success to the project
Yes, non-anonymous devs is only one sign they will try honestly their best to succeed. It's not a guarantee the start up will take up. Anonymous devs however are more likely to scam and run with the money. Satoshi Nakamoto was anonymous. He gave us bitcoin. He did not need an ico. Yet this project succeeded.

Duplicate comments for this video
Hi, I’m a team member of Kibo. Unfortunately, I must warn you that this respected person doesn’t understand what he is talking about or gives false information on purpose. In order to prove this, simply go through the website and read the terms of ICO to see that there is completely different conditions. I don’t understand why respected Tai Zen didn’t even bother to read the website before making his review. It looks like a cheap PR, which isn’t present is not a single word of truth, and you can prove this by going to our Slack channel and ask any questions. There is a great team behind Kibo with a well-thought-out marketing strategy, tech experts, lawyers and other members of our team.

1. The project includes a ready-designed user interface, including a mobile version of the site - video preview - https://vimeo.com/182504721
2. Back offices for managing KiboPlatform are ready and will be distributed in amount of 2000 within ICO - access to the offices will be open today. https://kiboplatform.net/en/landing.html
3. The code of several contracts is now open, the rest will be opened after completion of the audit https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central. It is important to understand that this is not the final version and we are not going to run these contracts, we are in the development stage, as well as many other projects, and just demonstrate a part of our work. We repeatedly reported that we are at the stage of a code audit, and that of course the audit will eliminate bugs, it is a normal working process and everyone should understand this well.
4. 4   All legal issues is adresses by company http://www.mme.ch/en/ , Dr. Luka Müller, who is one of the few specialists in tokenizated eco systems, is directly involved.
5. Important - A clear, tested marketing strategies for quickly attracting audiences, in the framework of which ICO is held. We emphasize that if you understand what this strategy is, you will understand that the funds raised under the sales people invest into the instrument of growth of their own assets. It's organization of a series of free drawings for several months. The marketing strategy is not only to attract users, but also to convert them into active, paying players and hold them using loyalty program. We do know how we will attract millions of users on the platform Kibo. All of this has been tested and shown to be effective on real people. And only part of the collected funds will be directed to the further development of the platform.

Unfortunately, we see that today in the wake of great interest in Kibo, some people are trying to attract more audience to their resources and it's sad. Guys, in order that you were convinced that I don't just accuse this man of dishonesty, I offer you to do this: if someone would be able to reason-why prove that we are as this man says a scam or fraudulent scheme, we instantly translate this person $ 10,000. I take responsibility for this words, you can use this text as proof of what I said. Here is my page on the social network - https://vk.com/cribys1  Good luck to you friends and please be careful.

The very fact that you are offering transfer $10,000 to any person who proves that this is a fraudulent scheme already sets alarm bells ringing.

Are you honestly going to be sending 10K to someone who destroys your project?

That's really disingenuous and quite frankly reflects badly off you cause I can guarantee that you would not be honouring that bet.

You will fight tooth and nail and rebutt every single argument.

How about you escrow that 10 K and then you can talk......


If you pay attention, notice that this post is addressed precisely to this video. In which, for reasons unknown to us, the man deceives people and makes the emphasis on the fact that Kibo is a scam or fraudulent scheme. This can be done for two reasons, either the person isn’t competent in this and he didn’t understand it, or he wants to take a free ride on the wave of Kibo's advertising company and just bring extra attention to his resource. Both options make us think about decency of this respected blogger.
Of course all the things that he says - are complete nonsense. That’s why at this video we’ve said that we are willing to pay $10,000 to a person, who will be able to explain why Kibo is a scam. Because prove this argumentatively is impossible. It has already been done a lot, and when we started a dialogue with people, who didn’t understand some of the details Kibo marketing strategy, it’s all ended in the same way, person has ended in arguments, and he accepted our point of view and, moreover, became our investor. Everyone who undertakes to prove it would call into question their reputation in the future, and this risk maybe will push them to more fully understand what Kibo is, before record such video. Unfortunately, we can’t talk to everyone in person or get people to read more carefully the information on our website and delve into the essence of Kibo launch.
In a personal conversation we would be happy to explain how all the details of the project are interrelated. And I’m sure that you would all realize that this is a complex marketing tool on which professional marketers worked for a very long time, and we know what we're doing. If you don’t delve into the details, you can't immediately understand this. We can try to start this dialogue here, but for that we need clear questions, so that we can give you detailed answers. I suggest to start with what a platform is and why it costs 10 ETH, where does this money go and why are platforms distributed in this manner on ICO stage. If you understand this, it will already be easier to understand the rest of the details. If you are interested, we can cover this in detail in the following answer ??

I'd be well wary of trying to bring Tai Zen's reputation in question.

Tai Zen is a very well respected member of the crypto community and to insinuate that he just wants to piggy-back on your reputation is laughable.

Didn't Vitalik himself say that there are issues with Kibo's code and that it's not particularly suited for the task you are planning to use it for?

My belief is that you are just trying to jump on the band-wagon to make as much dosh as possible, but that's solely my opinion.

As an entity who's seeking investment, it's up to you to make every effort to dispel whatever misconceptions future investors might have.

2062  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | less than 30h to go on: October 02, 2016, 04:48:53 AM

i have no fear of the early investors, i don't think price will be under ICO level for weeks

Why do you think so? Investors will not benefit to sell at the price of ICO.  But there are precedents - RISE





Anyone who invested in RISE is a just a greedy muppet who rightly got owned.

One could see from a mile away that RISE was a car crash in the making.

There is no comparison between ICONOMI and RISE.
2063  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 01, 2016, 06:30:02 PM

I hope everyone gives you red trust.

How can you speak on behalf of liqui if you are not connected to them?

You are obviously an alternate account for this scammy exchange.

Even the DECENT ICO has said you are scammy and you have been reported to the moderators: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.2860

 Roll Eyes



And now?Sound i make pipi?
And i am Not a liqui member.i am only a liqui trader which search new people to give them a chance to make money.


Sure, you are the Mother Theresa of Crypto, desperately trying to show people how to make money.....

 Roll Eyes
2064  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 01, 2016, 05:37:13 PM

I hope everyone gives you red trust.

How can you speak on behalf of liqui if you are not connected to them?

You are obviously an alternate account for this scammy exchange.

Even the DECENT ICO has said you are scammy and you have been reported to the moderators: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.2860

 Roll Eyes

2065  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: KIBO - First Blockchain Lottery on: October 01, 2016, 05:26:04 PM
Tai of cryptocurrency market had quite some feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4LEag6HuU

Any rebuttal?

We don’t believe that publication of the team is a guarantee of success to the project
Yes, non-anonymous devs is only one sign they will try honestly their best to succeed. It's not a guarantee the start up will take up. Anonymous devs however are more likely to scam and run with the money. Satoshi Nakamoto was anonymous. He gave us bitcoin. He did not need an ico. Yet this project succeeded.

Duplicate comments for this video
Hi, I’m a team member of Kibo. Unfortunately, I must warn you that this respected person doesn’t understand what he is talking about or gives false information on purpose. In order to prove this, simply go through the website and read the terms of ICO to see that there is completely different conditions. I don’t understand why respected Tai Zen didn’t even bother to read the website before making his review. It looks like a cheap PR, which isn’t present is not a single word of truth, and you can prove this by going to our Slack channel and ask any questions. There is a great team behind Kibo with a well-thought-out marketing strategy, tech experts, lawyers and other members of our team.

1. The project includes a ready-designed user interface, including a mobile version of the site - video preview - https://vimeo.com/182504721
2. Back offices for managing KiboPlatform are ready and will be distributed in amount of 2000 within ICO - access to the offices will be open today. https://kiboplatform.net/en/landing.html
3. The code of several contracts is now open, the rest will be opened after completion of the audit https://github.com/alfredwoooden/kibo_central. It is important to understand that this is not the final version and we are not going to run these contracts, we are in the development stage, as well as many other projects, and just demonstrate a part of our work. We repeatedly reported that we are at the stage of a code audit, and that of course the audit will eliminate bugs, it is a normal working process and everyone should understand this well.
4. 4   All legal issues is adresses by company http://www.mme.ch/en/ , Dr. Luka Müller, who is one of the few specialists in tokenizated eco systems, is directly involved.
5. Important - A clear, tested marketing strategies for quickly attracting audiences, in the framework of which ICO is held. We emphasize that if you understand what this strategy is, you will understand that the funds raised under the sales people invest into the instrument of growth of their own assets. It's organization of a series of free drawings for several months. The marketing strategy is not only to attract users, but also to convert them into active, paying players and hold them using loyalty program. We do know how we will attract millions of users on the platform Kibo. All of this has been tested and shown to be effective on real people. And only part of the collected funds will be directed to the further development of the platform.

Unfortunately, we see that today in the wake of great interest in Kibo, some people are trying to attract more audience to their resources and it's sad. Guys, in order that you were convinced that I don't just accuse this man of dishonesty, I offer you to do this: if someone would be able to reason-why prove that we are as this man says a scam or fraudulent scheme, we instantly translate this person $ 10,000. I take responsibility for this words, you can use this text as proof of what I said. Here is my page on the social network - https://vk.com/cribys1  Good luck to you friends and please be careful.

The very fact that you are offering transfer $10,000 to any person who proves that this is a fraudulent scheme already sets alarm bells ringing.

Are you honestly going to be sending 10K to someone who destroys your project?

That's really disingenuous and quite frankly reflects badly off you cause I can guarantee that you would not be honouring that bet.

You will fight tooth and nail and rebutt every single argument.

How about you escrow that 10 K and then you can talk......
2066  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 01, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
It is 8-9 days before they even give us what we paid for, bounties are probably least of their concern atm. Sit and wait like everyone else, it is sad that people that want their bounty sit here and scream after it more than people that actually spent their btc/euro w/e.

8 das wait? I trade Sinne yesterday on www.liqui.io

Everyone should give that shill RED TRUST.

2067  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DECENT Announcement - Decentralizing Content Distribution on: October 01, 2016, 02:01:37 PM
Would it be possible to start a new Decent thread with a moderator than can delete all of the IOUs promotions?

The posts related to spamming or IOU trading where reported to the moderator.
We ask all of you to stay focused to our official threads/channels and beware of all the scam attempts.

If you guys think that IOU trading is scam, we personally don't know how you will develop Decent coin, if you don't understand obvious things. Ruefully...
How you prove that you have DECENT tokens? Prove-of-Screenshot -))

Proof of transaction to developers wallet - all Txid https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t4KZA-GkVmvW9PBckRtzz2Mn9-_26LzFAVAcEEeOh9E/edit#gid=0.

Well the DECENT Team is well within its right to refund you your Investment, all of your 10.375 BTC

Won't be that difficult to track since you provide all the details of your investment.

Personally, I hope they do this so that you arrogant muppets get a taste of your own medicine.

Sasha from Waves did make Yobit back track on their Waves IOUs, so there is no reason why DECENT has to put up with your silly little stunt.
2068  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 01, 2016, 11:12:59 AM
what should i do that i can gain my signature bounies?

you should shut the fuck up and wait until ICONOMI release something official.
2069  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE][ANN]cryptolottotoken[CLT]pure POW on: October 01, 2016, 11:11:39 AM
Please reserve the scam bounty for me.

2070  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | STRATIS | The first blockchain developed for businesses |Full POS on: October 01, 2016, 07:37:17 AM
Dam I wish I had the kind of cash to pick up another 210k strat....

Well I mean I do but the wife would kick my ass If I spent that much on Strat. Vacation wont pay for itself. LOL

That's why you should have a secret little crypto fund that your dear wife knows nothing about......... Wink

PS: Wives are overrated......girlfriends are better.
2071  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 01, 2016, 05:09:59 AM
I've just been notified by Tai Zen that his next video will be on Iconomi.
Here's his youtube channel, subscribe to get notified
https://www.youtube.com/user/PrisonOrFreedom/videos

Tai Zen's getting Involved.

oh la la.





2072  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 01, 2016, 03:44:16 AM





2073  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: September 30, 2016, 06:57:38 PM
And where I can download wallet for windows to collect bounty?

Didn't you get the email that you need to provide your address so that they can deliver your bounties by post?

Don't forget to tell them which one you want.

I personally prefer the blue one.

2074  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HALLOWEEN COIN] [X11] – NEXT FUTURE CRYPTO CURRENCY on: September 30, 2016, 05:42:55 PM
I'd Like to reserve the SCAM BOUNTY PLEASE.

Thank you very much.

2075  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: zcashshare--play a joke on zcash mining with GPU on: September 30, 2016, 05:15:56 PM

Yeah, fuck that shit.

It looks dodgy as hell


2076  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: September 30, 2016, 05:14:14 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_funded_crowdfunding_projects

Still can't believe the DAO managed to secure $160 million and then screw it up.

ICONOMI is placed 11th on the list.

Hopefully, it becomes one of ethereum's success stories and gets us all our own lambos, hookers and blow retirement funds  Grin
2077  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO 5% BONUS] deCLOUDs - Precious Metals-Backed Crypto-Platform on BlockChain on: September 30, 2016, 05:09:46 PM
https://medium.com/decloudscom/germany-based-fintech-crypto-startup-declouds-has-caught-the-attention-of-international-bankers-fc41abe31a46#.xaoyqlsfx


Pretty sure that this is a serious Fraud implying that DAB BANK is involved with declouds.

Am sure if they get notified, they will get on the case pronto and call the cops on this stupid scammer.

He is using the name of a major bank to scam investors.

FORK HIM
2078  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | ICO CLOSED on: September 30, 2016, 04:23:33 PM
So many IOU liqui paid shills with signature? It is sick. I would never and ever trade in this shit exchange.

Liqui paid US? I nothing got at this time

2079  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | ICO CLOSED on: September 30, 2016, 04:03:38 PM
Trades ICN tokens opened today. The price is much higher than the set after ICO.

You mean you scammy IOU tokens on your stupid scam exchange...



2080  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO OPEN | ICO CLOSED on: September 30, 2016, 03:52:22 PM
1 ICN token could soon be worth 1 USD easy.

Anything connected to ETH will turn to gold.

Lambo Time  Grin

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