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921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to stop on: February 08, 2024, 12:53:11 PM
Gambling addicts will only stop when they have nothing left to gamble. Some people who can't stop gambling might lose everything but not everyone does. Different things like feelings, friends and where you are can make addiction stronger. There are ways to help, like therapy even before things get really bad.
But they can easily return to gambling once they get money and we know they can indeed return to gambling. But we won't know how they can have more money to go back to gambling. They don't know when to stop, so that's what causes them to become gambling addicts even though they already see that they have used too much money but don't stop it all immediately. Not being able to realize that they have lost a lot of money makes them continue gambling and become addicted to gambling so this must be stopped immediately by people who know that they like gambling games. Those who know this should immediately invite the person to talk so they can help solve the problem.
922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Changing initial option and losing the bet on: February 08, 2024, 12:30:16 PM
I have never changed the options I want to play because when I want to gamble, I have already decided what gambling game I want to play and I will immediately choose the casino. After that, I would immediately play the gambling game so I never thought about changing the options. Maybe you don't need to change options or add games to the initial options, but it could be that what you experience is just a coincidence. You don't need to think about it too seriously because we are in the world of gambling, where anything can happen. And you also have to remember that losing at gambling is certain because we can't always win but only experience defeat.
923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The scam of FAKE fixed matches on: February 08, 2024, 11:50:24 AM
I have come across those Scammers on telegram groups were they pretend to be good football predictions experts and until you subscribe  to their vip channel you won't get the opportunity to experience their predicted games. Most time they're even go as far as giving out correct scores. The easiest way to identify that it's a scam is if the person claims to give an accurate prediction all the time. That is the most easiest way to identify that the person behind the telegram group is a scammer. besides gambling is mostly for fun so why fall for those scams if you really play for fun?

If something comes too easily, it's good to be suspicious. Furthermore, at some point this scheme will fail and someone may even be arrested for manipulation. So I think it's much better to participate in online betting at casinos and well-known sites.
If something comes too easily, being suspicious is a good idea. Moreover, this scheme will fail at some point and someone may even be arrested for manipulation. So I think it is much better to participate in online betting at reputed casinos and sites.

If their offer is too attractive to be realized, you should be suspicious and always look for more information. But if it is from Telegram, you have to be careful because there are too many scammers on Telegram, confusing us about which ones are real and which ones are fake. You can follow threads about football on this forum because I see that people often share their predictions so you can learn from there.
924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Pay off DEBT by do Gambling? think again before you loss more on: February 08, 2024, 11:36:17 AM
This has to be one of the most common ways to lose money as well, people keep talking about how they are going to end up making money from it but we all know that mathematically it is impossible for someone to make money forever, even if you get some money quickly by getting a very lucky win, that just means that you are going to end up losing it all back if you keep gambling.

There are situations where people get super lucky, like get the jackpot, and those are lucky but those are one in a million and there is no way that we know you are going to be one of those people and you will probably end up losing it. This is why it should be important that we are checking what we are looking at, and we should find some other way to pay the debt off.
When it comes to making money from gambling, people make a big mistake in thinking they can make money from gambling more often than they would like. They can make money from gambling, but they will also experience losses that may be bigger than their wins. So they should not think about making money from gambling to pay off their debts because they may suffer more losses.

People who can get the jackpot will not get it too often. Usually, after they get the jackpot, they will experience defeat if they continue gambling so they can spend all their money, even with their winnings. If someone gets the jackpot, they should be able to stop themselves for a while and, enjoy their winnings and reduce tension after winning. But never try to make money from gambling to meet daily needs or to pay debts because that will make you lose a lot of money.
925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction does more harm than mere financial loss on: February 08, 2024, 11:03:06 AM
life is neglected, even our own family will sometimes hate and shun us due to gambling addiction, it is so painful that everything is destroyed because of gambling, we don't have a family, our finances are disrupted and even if we want to stop it will be difficult to do so.
This is why realization and self-awareness are important for everyone because one needs to think it through before they get into anything in their life when they know it's not just about them but they might lose everything they have if they face certain problems after starting to do something, like in gambling, a person understands that if they get addicted, they will have a hard time getting out of it and if they can't do that, they will most likely get themselves ruined.

So, someone who is getting into gambling should understand both the positive and negative consequences of gambling and then they should evaluate the ways they should use so that they can avoid the risks that can lead them towards the negative consequences so that they don't face severe problems because of their gambling activities.
Those who want to enter the world of gambling should be able to think about and understand the negative impacts of gambling, but what is often found is that they come to gambling without making any preparations. Because they are curious to see what other people have, they also want to get it. Indeed, it is not wrong if they gamble, but they must be able to know what they have to do and learn when gambling so that they are not influenced by the temptations that exist in gambling. Many people have fallen into gambling because they did not make the proper preparations so they are fascinated and end up drowning in gambling.

If they already know what to do and learn, they will try to prevent themselves from experiencing gambling problems, including preventing themselves from experiencing gambling addiction because it can have an impact on the people around them. They have to think about what is happening to the people around them so that they can prevent themselves from gambling excessively and can still control themselves well.
926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: February 08, 2024, 10:22:59 AM
Yes, friends who don't like us will always have a way to find our faults and if they have found a loophole in our fault they will be happy and report it to their superior, causing problems for our work, therefore it is better to use our times as best as possible so that people those who don't like us have no chances of making our name bad in the eyes the company.
We often encounter this in many types of work. A friend once told me about the tough competition at his company. Some relatives don't like the results of my friend's work even though my friend's boss knows that my friend can be relied on. But for various reasons, his relations tried to bring down my friend. But because my friend's boss knows how my friend works, my friend's boss prefers my friend and kicks his relationship or gets fired Grin

Competition in the workplace is fierce. We will never know who really likes us and who hates us. Those who hate us may pretend to be good in front of us but try to bring us down behind our backs. That is why we should not take any risks at work. If we want to gamble, we should not gamble at work. Unless we are a boss at our workplace, we can gamble in our room and forbid anyone from entering our room if we don't call him.
927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do i handle my first gambling experience on: February 08, 2024, 10:03:05 AM
Hello senior citizens and my fellow newbies gambler's, now I gat a straight forward question for you all.
How do I prepare myself for my first gambling experience?
What are the things I should expect as a first time gambler?
How do we react to my first gambling results be it winning or lose?
Thank you all for your helpful opinions.
My gambling experience was not a happy one but I experienced losing my first betting bet. It was a sportsbetting experience and since I had no experience in that experience, I made a mistake in choosing the team while placing the bet, which caused my first bet to lose. Since this was my bet on a football match, if my team selection was not correct I had no choice but to lose. But my first betting experience was a small amount of loss, so my gambling losses were small, so my experience of sadness was also small.
That experience will encourage you to continue placing bets on other sports bets. Usually, that's what happens to someone who experiences defeat from gambling and makes them come back again to see their analytical skills. Maybe you need to look for more information to help your analysis find a team that can win. But be careful because it can make you place bets more often, even with bigger money, because many people want to win big. Having the experience of winning or losing from gambling can really make people return to gambling again because they think they will win and are still curious about the gambling game. That is why when gambling, a person must have self-control so that he does not fall too deep into gambling.
928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: While placing bet what comes your mind on: February 08, 2024, 09:44:58 AM
OP, I never think of gambling in online or offline casinos. But a few days ago my desire to gamble in online casinos was awakened. But I tried to get an idea from one of my closest friends to gamble in online casinos. Then I found out that in online casinos, gambling is not safe. Then I instantly changed my mind to not gambling at these online casinos. Basically I prefer to bet on cricket and football games. Because I have enough knowledge about football and cricket game. But before I place the bet I think that I can definitely win the bet on today's match and get good profit from the bet.
It seems that there is a desire within you that makes you want to try gambling at online casinos. But after you think about it, you change your mind about not betting at online casinos. This is a normal thing that gamblers encounter when they start gambling and that feeling will usually prompt you to gamble at a certain casino. And when you are in the casino, some whispers say you can win so you immediately start gambling. But the reality is that you don't win but instead lose, but that doesn't alert you, and instead, you continue gambling while saying that your win will come after the next few rounds. But the victory doesn't come and ultimately frustrates you because you don't get the win. And that's what happens to many gamblers so they continue gambling.
929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever introduced an elder gambler to online betting? on: February 08, 2024, 09:23:51 AM
I never introduce virtual gambling to elderly people because most of them will not understand the patterns or how to play and they find it confusing. Even though we may have taught them well and correctly, still, they will say it is difficult. Well, that is understandable. Maybe they prefer physical activities because they visit physical casinos and gamble for real. Moreover, many elderly people do not know internet technology well and will call us if something happens to those using the device. But perhaps some older people love virtual gambling as much as we do and they find it more interesting than visiting a physical casino. These people are usually able to see something new based on a different point of view so they will not easily say I can't. But they will try to understand it first until finally they really understand it.
930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling by financial dependents. on: February 08, 2024, 08:58:03 AM
A child really needs to be taught about how to manage finances or even we as parents can provide knowledge about saving and investing, this will be very useful in the long term to build the child character so that they can be more responsible about finances in the future.
And as parents, you must be able to provide guidance on how to make the best use of money, such as using money to build business and so on, this aims to instill the attitude of businessman in the younger generation.
After that, we can talk about gambling where we give them guidance that gambling is an activity that they should really stay away from and that they should not have the slightest curiosity about gambling activities.
We also have to give an example that gambling will have bad impact and of course we provide statement that many gamblers start borrowing money to gamble until in the end they experience serious problems, so indirectly we have provided education to children.

Treating will be much more difficult so we have to provide preventive measures from the start and this is much better.
Wise parents will provide a good upbringing for their children, including teaching them how to use money properly and not let them be controlled by money. Children will be taught how to increase their money in many ways so that they can try to develop it and have more money. And yes, this will shape the children's character so they can compete with the tough competition they will encounter when the children grow up. If parents cannot understand this, their children will not be able to compete with the harshness of life, even though the harshness of life will always increase along with technological developments and the surrounding environment. Parents can provide adequate knowledge to help their children survive and will not teach them things that could have bad consequences for them because parents have seen what happens to other children. Parents don't want to see their children take the wrong path so their parents will make sure they get what suits their children. Their children will also try hard to avoid things that could have a bad impact on their lives, including not gambling, which could make them forget what they have to do.
931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there play and pay later casinos? on: February 08, 2024, 08:37:12 AM
No casinos into their right minds that would be offering those play now and pay later. What if they do able to win up huge amount? For sure they would really be just putting themselves in danger
in speaking about revenue or simply its really just that suicide for them into their business. This is why it would really be that having no sense or really just that absurd for them to offer such thing.
It is really just that not possible and this is why we cant see any platform who do offers this kind of set up because they do know that they would really be just putting their business on harm.
This is why they would rather be giving or launching out those bonuses which do really looks interesting but it is really just that a trap.
Casinos will not offer something like that because it will not make their business run well, especially since more gamblers will lose when gambling at their place. Maybe the casino can collaborate with a third party and the third party will provide that service and give a small commission to the casino for providing gamblers to want to borrow at its service location. But I don't know whether there is a service like that or no platform like that. But as far as I know, some people offer loans to people who need money immediately, but they need collateral worth the money the person wants to borrow. It is better for the casino to provide attractive bonuses but with definite terms and conditions so that the casino can make a profit.
932  Other / Off-topic / Re: Having a regular/steady income is important as a gambler. on: February 08, 2024, 08:16:17 AM
Yes, even though they have a sufficient fixed income, they still have to control their finances well, they have to be able to manage their finances evenly, distribute which ones to save, which ones for basic needs, which ones for snacks or gambling. I think their gambling budget is included in As part of their snacks, they gamble using the money they are allocated for snacks. but if they really decide, that's not wrong, you just have to be able to control yourself like you said.

Indeed, there are some people who gamble with the aim of doubling their money and maybe there are also those who believe they can get money quickly just by gambling, but that is not the reality. I think that many of those who gamble are not aware of the losses they are getting so they continue to gamble even though they are losing and losing and it is true that what you said will gradually become addicted, but if they have really stable finances I don't think that's the case. big problem as long as they can still control themselves in all their gambling, I mean not doing excessive gambling such as depositing money back when they lose.
Allocating funds from their fixed income is a must so that there is no excessive use of funds from their income, especially as they also need to allocate funds for other needs. As long as they can allocate their regular income to gambling, they will be able to gamble, but if not, they should not gamble and only gamble if they have more money. They don't need to force themselves to use the money if their funds are limited because other needs are more important than just gambling. But that's what these people don't realize, so they still take funds from their regular income to gamble and even though they also lose again, that doesn't stop them from gambling.

If people gamble to double their money, they should be prepared to be disappointed because gambling is not a place to make money. They should be aware of looking for other sources to make money so they don't gamble too hard. That will make them experience even more problems. They will lose perhaps more money than before, making it difficult for them because they won't have the money to meet their needs.
933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What remarkable thing have you achieved with the money you won from gambling? on: February 08, 2024, 07:51:55 AM
It is natural that if someone gets a big win, they will definitely feel happy because what gamblers are waiting for is victory and avoiding defeat. After that, a gambler makes his own choice, whether he will immediately leave the casino when he has won or vice versa, he will stay there to gamble again.
And I agree with you, that actually many gamblers who have won are more obsessed with winning again with more results than before and this is what gamblers need to prevent by having good control so in my opinion this will never happen.
Gamblers always want to chase big wins, so they are willing to continue gambling and even though they have experienced a lot of losses, maybe that won't stop them from continuing to chase big wins. Indeed, there are people who, after getting a big win, can immediately stop themselves from gambling. But many cannot stop themselves from gambling and instead try to chase another big win so they will use more of their money. It has become like an obsession that they have to get from gambling, and unfortunately, many of them do not have good self-control, so many experience a lot of losses. They should be able to stop their gambling activities after they succeed in getting that big win to enjoy their big win by celebrating it.

Yes, that true and indeed most gamblers when they get big win, they will do useless things such as using the winnings to return to gambling with increased bets and use it for fun such as going to nightclubs.
Just look, there have been several cases where someone who became billionaire from winning the lottery jackpot went bankrupt again after 1 to 2 years of wasting the winnings uselessly, this is an example of the bad attitude of someone who cannot manage their money well.

And what you say will only happen or be done by business people or gamblers who have business spirit, for most gamblers it will be difficult to do this because they still only care about pleasure and satisfaction.
We will never be able to find or it is impossible to find many gamblers who can make good use of their winnings such as to build business, most gamblers when they win are not satisfied and want to be able to have bigger wins.
From here, how can they use their winnings to build business and make money even though their ambitions and goals are different.

Winning is the desire of all gamblers and I sure that all gamblers can win, but not all gamblers will be able to manage and utilize their winnings well.
If they could use their big win to prepare their lives for a better life, they would have it because they would try to use and prepare it by building a business or investment that could provide even greater profits in the future. They will not use the winnings to gamble again, even though they can continue gambling. But it is more important for them to prepare for the future so that it can be even better, especially since they now have a lot of money from their big winnings. But some people have wasted their big winnings by having fun and wasting money by partying non-stop. This is a bad example so we don't need to imitate it.

Maybe only a few gamblers can use their winnings to build a business so they can have a bigger income than gambling. If they can open their horizons and think about their future, it will be more useful for them because at least they will be willing to try to change their lives for the better. By having a business, they can make money and don't need to pin their hopes on gambling, where they won't always be able to win. If we can get the opportunity to win that big victory, we must be able to use it to change our lives for the better so that we can enjoy this life even better without any financial shortages because there are already businesses that can make money for us.

Hopefully, we can get a big win one day to have or achieve our dreams and also make good use of that victory.
934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: World female football. on: February 08, 2024, 07:38:53 AM
This is true; every sport where the player is a woman is not popular or mainstream. I don't know why, but maybe because it lacks promotion of women's sports; it lacks in everything. In short, yes, there are sports where women are involved, but only a few, and if there are, it is not in mainstream, television, or live broadcast. Maybe because it has become a social norm, people are more entertained in sports where men are involved. But when it comes to sports betting, I don't know if there is a sport available that women are the players in; if there are maybe just a few, I think we should treat more women sports as the same as men sports. For example, in tennis, there are many popular and famous tennis players who are women, and I think that sports is also available in sports betting, so yeah, it's one of the few sports betting where women are involved or the players.
And we also don't know which female players or clubs will compete, especially as there may not be many casinos that will provide women's sports betting. That makes it difficult for bettors who want to place bets because perhaps many of them don't know the sport and the teams. This may also be why women's sports are less popular with bettors, even though some know about the sport and its teams or players. There may be fans of tennis. Likewise, football, basketball, and other sports. But it also doesn't have much interest. And most people will know the sport when it is for men because men's sports are more famous than women's sports.
935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another question? Tell me your average amount per bet and your monthly income? on: February 08, 2024, 06:58:15 AM
when it comes to experience, I think it depends on the gambling. What you really have to think about is the budget you can afford to gamble, and also the self-limitations needed to avoid gambling too much. and if you do experience defeat, you don't have to be sad, but maybe it's okay to be sad, just don't think about it too much, because even if they think hard about it, it won't change the situation, if you do lose, please just accept it because it's a risk that will clearly happen.

What we have to pay attention to is that we have to be able to adjust and balance which funds are for gambling and which funds are for living needs. Regarding the amount of funds they use for gambling, it depends on the individual, because of course each individual has a different income and so of course they also have a certain budget for gambling. Whatever the budget for gambling, please adjust it to their own income, don't let the budget to gamble, they spend all their salary earned from work for one month.
That's why we have to adjust to the budget we can afford for gambling and always try to ensure that we don't gamble too much. This is important to always pay attention to so that we will not experience many losses, which will increase if we do not maintain the limits. We don't want to feel sad or even frustrated because we have experienced too much defeat, so that's why we must always limit our spending on gambling. Apart from that, there are risks that we will accept if we use more money.

By adjusting funds for gambling, at least we have tried to reduce the expenses and the number of losses we can accept. Most gamblers are not ready to accept large losses, especially if the losses increase, so we must really limit our gambling activities. We also can't follow the funds that other people use because it depends on our income. By always limiting our budget for gambling, we will not gamble beyond the limit because we always want to avoid losing too much, which can prevent us from experiencing bigger problems than others. We also cannot risk losing a lot of money because we have other needs.
936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: February 08, 2024, 06:41:10 AM
what differentiates rich gamblers from poor gamblers is only the amount of money they bet. The risks they accept will also be the same depending on the type of game they play.
In terms of chances of winning in gambling games, perhaps rich gamblers have a greater chance of playing longer. we can't say the chances of winning. because it depends on the gambler's lucky day.
Whether they are rich or poor gamblers, they still have to have good emotional control in the game. it will protect their finances to remain unaffected.
The risks will be the same but the only difference is the amount of money that will be lost at the gambling table, so rich gamblers and poor gamblers must really pay attention to the money they use to gamble and be able to limit the amount they lose. Rich gamblers have a greater chance than poor gamblers, especially since they have more money to gamble longer. Rich gamblers also have a chance to win if it is about the length of time they gamble, but their chances of winning will depend on their luck. Yes, I agree that whether gamblers are rich or poor, they must be able to control themselves when gambling because that is the most important thing to avoid losing more and more.
937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Selling a property to play gamble on: February 08, 2024, 06:15:53 AM
I sold a laptop that I supposed to repair and I lost the money to gambling. I sold a good home theater and used the money to gamble and I lost it. Enough lesson for me not to sell anything and use the money to ever gamble again.
Are you okay now though? That's a serious thing already if you start selling high price items, thank God that there's people like you that I meet on this forum sharing their woes and experiences because I'm learning from the experience of other people and end up not committing the same mistakes, I can't imagine selling all the expensive stuff that I collect over gambling and then losing it all over again, that's definitely a heartbreaking thing to happen, hopefully you're fine now. I haven't sold anything of value yet to help with my gambling habits, so I'm all good.
Many people do things as he says, especially if it is related to gambling. I have also met people who even sold their assets, such as gold, just to be able to continue gambling. It might be a mistake, but we don't know what is going through that person's mind, and even if they have made such a mistake, they still cannot reduce their gambling activities. But if he can recover from everything, it is a very big blessing that he can cure himself from gambling. Playing gambling carries the risk of losing money and we should be able to control ourselves when gambling and not spend a lot of money because of the temptation to win a lot of money. We still have difficulty winning big wins, so we don't need to try too hard when gambling.
938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a generous gamblers on: February 08, 2024, 06:00:28 AM
True and friends like that usually come when they are in need, or that means coming for a profit and when the money from your winnings is gone then the next they will look indifferent like people who don't know you, I have experienced this where a friend who is not too close to me knows about my winnings which in the end he behaves very well at that time like looking for my attention and when I have given him part of the winnings then the next day immediately disappears without any ado, as I said above like people who don't know when they have gotten part of our winnings.

Although I am quite sincere but sometimes it makes me a little annoyed too when I see his behavior, this is also a lesson for me that don't be too kind to people who actually come to benefit themselves, and lately when I get another win I usually just tell my real friends to enjoy and enliven my winnings. On the other hand what you did was a smart move by not telling anything about your winnings and preferring to tell them that it was bonus money for what you did and I'm sure they won't suspect anything and will probably just think that it was bonus money from your work. The other thing is that yes it is very true that it is possible by telling about our winnings that they may follow what we do but not necessarily they can have good self-control so this can make them lose a lot of money because they want to get a big win like us and if in the end it always fails then maybe I agree with you that we are the ones who will be blamed.
That's what he means because around us there are lots of people or friends like that so we have to be careful and choose friends who are really friends and they won't do things like that. I have often seen friends like that where they won't be too close to us but when we have something, they try to approach us with aims and objectives that we don't even know about. I don't like friends like that because we are really looking for a real friend who doesn't see what we have.

Just let people be like that because their character cannot be changed. Moreover, they will never feel that they shouldn't be like that. They should be able to show how to make good friends so that many people can accept them and many people will like them. So in this case, if we get a big win, we can hide it from them and act normal so that they don't come to us with certain aims and objectives. We can just invite close friends to join in the celebration, especially since these close friends are the ones who always accompany us at all times and share everything with each other. By hiding the big winnings, we can be free from the curiosity of people who want to know where we got a lot of money so that they will not follow us to gamble. We have to be careful if we want to share our winnings at gambling so that not everyone will know about the big wins we get at gambling.
939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not everyone deserves to hear of your winning in gambling. on: February 08, 2024, 05:44:42 AM
it's difficult for someone who mostly having fun to sharing his winnings to stop this activity. I'm not talking about player experiences on this forum, but this is IRL. There are several slot players, they talk about the win they got each other, they seem to be competing to proof he is the biggest winner. Maybe this is one of the effects of their habit of often talking about their wins. So they don't hesitate to beat each other from playing slots. I'm not sure how many losses they'll get before or after, but if this continues there will probably become endless competition between them.
If we talk about losses, maybe the losses are big, but they don't tell you about it and only share the winnings, so we don't know how big the losses are. Yes, it is natural for them to share their winnings so that it is possible for other members to feel motivated to get their big wins. But they should remember that slot games can cost them all their money without them realizing it because they will be curious about the results they receive and still want to chase big wins. After all, it is rare for people to get big wins continuously, especially in slot games, unless they really have more luck than others.
940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: February 07, 2024, 12:51:18 PM
No one should take more risks in gambling because rich gamblers and not-so-rich gamblers alike will lose a lot of money. That is a result they will get from gambling, so they must be able to prevent the risk from increasing. They also don't need to gamble with much money even though they are rich gamblers to prevent the risk from increasing. No one can afford to see the risks increase, so everyone should gamble just enough while enjoying the gambling game. It will be safer for them, both rich gamblers and gamblers who are not yet rich, because they only enjoy gambling games with enough money and also don't take too big risks. They can limit the use of money for gambling so that the amount they lose can also be limited.
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