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1181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: January 18, 2024, 01:21:31 PM
It might be the case that they started with more money than what they got out though...

It could be that they would have been able to buy two cars lets say...

People often omit the parts where they lose gambling, and only conveniently share their wins..

This is one of the major reasons why more people enter into gambling with the conception that, they'll experience more wins than losses.and sometimes the reason we hear more of the wins is because, some persons who successfully wins a gamble might not necessarily have encountered much loses compared to his wins. Some persons play gamble with as low as $0.1 to make a win of $20,000. I have seen this happen countless times, and it still happens to the extent that, most wins are being published in our news paper, due to the high odd of not winning the bet.
Some people who manage to win really get lucky so they can win a lot with just a small bet. And many other people can't get it because it depends on each person's luck. But that has made many people follow what the winner did so they are willing to use their money to gamble. And when they get deeper into gambling, they become addicted to gambling without being able to win the gambling game. But it is different from successful gamblers because they can control themselves while gambling and win the gambling game. But we also don't know whether they started gambling with a lot of money or whether they didn't have much money and managed to win a lot of money.
1182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING DISORDER on: January 18, 2024, 01:08:32 PM
He must realize that he has an uncontrollable urge to continue gambling so that he can immediately seek help to cure or eliminate the urge. You can try to stop gambling for a while and do other things that are not related to gambling so that you can divert your attention from gambling. You also need to ask your family for help if you are stressed by gambling and want to heal yourself. It was your fault because you gambled without self-control, which made you too serious about gambling. You still have the opportunity to change, but you have to change your life seriously. This is about the struggle to change your life so you can heal yourself from gambling.
1183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The PCSO Lotto is shrouded in doubt due to the picture of the winner shown on: January 18, 2024, 12:43:28 PM
It was a big win from playing the lottery that the woman got. We don't need to know whether it is a real or a fake image, but of course the casino tries to hide the identity, including the face of the winner, from the public. This is to prevent crimes that will cause problems for the winners, which is something the casino has done well. They try to protect their winners, which is a normal thing the casino gives. And even if it's an edited image, that's fine, too, because the public doesn't need to know who the winner is. They can only keep buying lottery tickets and still hope to win the lottery game.
1184  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who does gambling addiction affect the most? on: January 18, 2024, 12:12:55 PM
Mentioning the negatives of gambling addiction affects the relatives and family more. When a gambler is addicted good things seem bad to him and he does not feel that he is harming himself then the family has to bear this sad suffering. After the family gradually spread its influence in the society. Try to change them for a short period of time. Taking good care of yourself before committing to bad deeds will quickly improve your positive state.
The gambler will not feel the bad effects, but instead, his family will feel it, so this requires awareness from the gambler to see the reality of what is happening in front of him so that he can realize that he has done the wrong thing. He couldn't deny that his family needed him to return to his family so he could provide the things his family needed. But if he continues his gambling game and ignores this, he will not be able to see how his family will abandon him because he has to bear such a heavy burden. And when the gambler sees that he is alone, he will be confused and maybe that's where his regret arises. We should prevent bad things from happening than for us to suffer bad consequences, especially with our families if they suffer bad consequences too.
1185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: January 18, 2024, 11:40:24 AM
Those who attack us about the gambling we play, of course they don't understand how we gamble and it's impossible for them to understand the gambling we play. All they can do is criticize people who gamble because they don't like gambling, but for those who advise us in gambling of course we can see how they advise us, if they advise us because they have had a lot of experience in the gambling they play I don't think there's any harm in listening but we remain in our stance whether what they say is true or they just say it is not appropriate with what they know.
If they criticize me by saying bad things that might happen to me, I will just leave it and not want to listen because, in my opinion, they don't know how I use gambling, and they are just talking. We know better how we gamble and when we can be responsible with our gambling, we don't need to give them any arguments because they don't know anything about us. But we can also listen to what they say and reply to their words by saying that we can gamble responsibly and not use too much money. But that might later lead to arguments because many people don't want to get replies to arguments from other people. After all, they prefer to criticize other people. And that will give them a misunderstanding of us.
1186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 18, 2024, 11:16:26 AM
People have technologies, yet still cant make a 100% precision weather forecast of the next day, and OP is asking if we believe in gambling prediction. A place where luck, random, math and probability meet together. Strange that when expert makes a prediction, it mostly work, but when we use his advice, losing ratio is somehow larger than expected. If there were someone who only gives correct predictions, people would become unbelievably rich, and casinos would bankrupt. So far I dont see a millionaire in every single person I meet, and the amount of casinos only grow. That is why I dont believe in someone else expert opinion.
This is very true because they can only make predictions without knowing whether they are accurate. They can tell other people that their predictions are accurate but other people will see whether they are right or wrong. And people who use predictions from experts can only hope that their bets can win so they can get their money. But it would be even better if these people were willing to learn analysis themselves so that they don't expect too much from experts, especially when these experts are busy with their business. Experts also have their own lives so people who want to ask for their predictions must be patient. But if they can analyze themselves, they can find a team that has a chance of winning without having to depend on other people.
1187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: January 18, 2024, 09:56:46 AM
That's what I mean, this entertainment has a bad impact if we play it continuously, but it's different from other things which may not have a bad impact like this type of gambling. I agree with you, the more often you gamble, the more money you will make. lost, and if someone gambles frequently in my opinion that is enough to indicate that they don't have self-control and discipline, so it's natural that they lose a lot of money by gambling because even with self-control they can't have it or can't manage it well.

That's right, if they have self-control maybe this won't happen, including gambling addiction most importantly. They should be able to manage their finances well, not just by spending a lot of money on gambling, because there are many other things that are more important and more useful for them. Even if they have a lot of money, in my opinion it is not recommended that they spend it gambling, it is better to set a small budget, so that when they gamble and lose they have to stop and go, and can continue again another day, maybe another day. luck will be on their side so that they can win at gambling, because they don't have to spend a lot of money to win, if they are lucky, even using a small amount of money, that can happen.
Those who gamble frequently should be able to see the bad impacts they have experienced from gambling so that they can prevent these bad impacts from becoming bigger. If they don't pay attention to this and instead continue gambling until they end up losing a lot of money, it means they don't care about themselves anymore because it makes it difficult for them to control themselves. That is why self-control is very important for every gambler to learn and have so that they will not lose a lot of money from gambling.

With this self-control, they can also avoid the gambling addiction that many other gamblers have experienced. That is why they need to have allocated funds to play gambling and must apply strict rules when playing gambling so that they don't experience a lot of losses, which can cost them a lot of money. It is better for them to save their money for other things and only use enough money for gambling. This is to prevent the large losses they can experience from gambling. Maybe luck can be on their side, but luck will not always come when they gamble, so they should be able to pay attention to this and really control the use of money for gambling.

Friends of my gamble with a budget and mindset. They seem to enjoy it without the risks. Its like an internal check-and-balance. They play and delight, yet they know when to stop. Really, its impressive. It highlights self-awareness, a necessary. Knowing one's limits is vital. However, I realize not everyone has this control. That's when you bring up risks and repercussions. Awareness of these risks and its dissemination are crucial. Gambling should be done with full awareness of its risks. I always encourage educated decision-making.
That's good because they know when they are gambling and when they should stop gambling so they can have fun gambling and can also control themselves in using their money. That's what every gambler should do so that they don't experience many losses and can still enjoy gambling as entertainment. Yes, that is a very important self-limitation so that we are aware of the risks involved in gambling. We also need to do the same thing as your friend did to prevent the risk from becoming big and not cause difficulties for us. And we can do responsible gambling well so that we can use gambling properly and not gamble excessively.
1188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can be a hope restorer if we go about it wisely! on: January 18, 2024, 09:24:12 AM
Even though gambling can be a hope restorer or a life changer, we must remember that it is difficult because we will be faced with defeats that can take our money at any time. That is why we must be wise in gambling and must not have thoughts about making money from gambling. We should use gambling properly so that we don't use a lot of money because it makes us lose a lot of money. If we use gambling wisely and as entertainment, big wins will come to us so we can get a lot of money. And with a lot of winning money, we can use it for our needs to change our lives for the better.
1189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: cashout or wait till the end? on: January 18, 2024, 08:48:42 AM
If that happened to me, I wouldn't think long about not cashing out because that alone is enough to give me a very big profit considering the stake is also quite big (for me) because I think cashing out that amount of money is a very big profit. We can rarely cash out that much money and we shouldn't be too greedy to want to get more remembering that sometimes there are always surprises that we don't expect. Don't wait until the final and your bet fails because it will be even more painful for you so it's better if you have an opportunity like that. It's better to cash out and enjoy your winnings so you don't regret not cashing it out.
Would be hard to do that if that ever happened to you because there's a what if that's going to happen when you're in that position, that what if being that "what if I continue and make more money from the win?" at that time you will be torn about cashing out and thinking of the things that could have happened but hasn't happened yet. Sure that's the thing that we should keep in mind, "not be greedy" but the problem is that your mind is racing at that point and you can't think straight because your neurons are firing up because you're trying to process all the possibilities and the what ifs that can happen if you do this or do that which ends to a point where you forgot the thing the right thing to do.
Not being greedy is the key to everything when we can get that much money from our bets. If they see a lot of money like that, we better cash it in before everything changes because when it changes, we will miss the moment to cash it in and regret it. With that much money, we can use it for our needs and also prepare our future so that it can be better. We can also open a new business that can help us make even more money. We have to be wise in situations like that and must be able to suppress greed because we don't know what will happen at the end of the game. And because we can see the huge amount of money, we should cash it in. But if people still want to wait until the game ends, we can't force them because that's up to them.
1190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling by financial dependents. on: January 18, 2024, 08:21:14 AM
Are you really sure that your nephew is doing what he's telling you and that he's not going to be a problem with that gambling habit of his? The reason for that question is that children and teenagers like your nephew is likely to lie about stuff and tell what you want to hear from them so either they got to do something about this habit because it looks innocent and harmless at first but it's going to be a problem right before your eyes and it's going to catch everyone off-guard, that's how it works. Tell your nephew too that there are other better ways that he can spend his money that's not even his money in the first place, teach him to invest or get a healthier hobby.
We will never know what his nephew did after getting orders from him. Yes, most children and teenagers like his nephew would probably ignore what he was told and not carry it out, but hopefully, he was a good teenager who would listen to his advice. While he is still a teenager, there is no harm in teaching him about investing because that is one way to gain profits in the future. Bitcoin is the best investment his nephew can use to prepare for his future. Hopefully, his nephew will listen to his advice to invest or do other more useful things.
1191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: January 18, 2024, 07:48:33 AM
This is definitely a small tragedy.  Which can later even turn into a great tragedy.  At the same time, I think the son simply justifies himself by the fact that his father taught him to gamble and it is his father’s fault that he has become an avid gambling addict.  And the father simply believes that his son is simply continuing what he himself has been doing for many years.  As a result, both internally begin to consider each other, rather than themselves, to be guilty of this destructive passion. 
This is, of course, a far-fetched and weak excuse, but such is the nature of people who, at the slightest opportunity, tend to blame other people for their troubles and failures.
This was a cause and effect experienced by the boy and his father because his father taught him to gamble so it carried over until the boy grew up. If his father believes that his son will continue what he has done for years, he should be sad because there is a possibility that his son will develop a gambling addiction. The boy's self-control will not be the same as his father's, so there is a possibility of a gambling addiction, and this should have been realized by the father who saw his son's growth and development. He could be wise. His father should have forbidden his son to go near gambling or follow what he was doing and look for other ways to make money. If something could be done, his father should have advised his son to leave gambling with him so that neither of them would gamble again.
1192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering? on: January 18, 2024, 06:45:17 AM
That is true. If there are gamblers who dont bother reading game rules, or to read or understand what is house edge, RTP, then no wonder only little amount of gamblers spend time reading ToS. Also every gambler is so confident persons, who believes that nothing bad will ever happen to him, that they dont bother going deep into details what they doing. If the browser has opened the page, if the game has loaded, then there is nothing to worry about anymore, as they are doing everything 100% right.

Personally, I dont read ToS when I register at casinos. But after registration, I pay attention on bonuses conditions, withdrawal/deposit fees and minimum amount, and only when I am about to make a large deposit, I do read ToS to check if accidentally my country is not on a restricted list.
They can feel confident but they must still take the time to read and understand the ToS so that they don't have any problems after they finish gambling and want to withdraw their money. The habit of reading must always be instilled so that we can enjoy what we do in gambling. Moreover, if we take the time to understand the ToS, we will still have free time to gamble because gambling games are played whenever we have free time. Gambling games will always be waiting for us, especially when we are doing other, more important things.

What you did was good because what you read are important things that we need to know. By reading the ToS, we will know what things are permitted and prohibited so that we will not try to violate them because that means trouble for us. We can take the time to read the other parts another day to better understand the rules.
1193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to stop on: January 18, 2024, 06:28:45 AM
yes, that's right, because the goal of casinos is also profit, so they run casinos, yes, the goal is to get profits from many people, but what you need to pay attention to is that those who deposit a lot of money at the casino are based on their own mistakes, and the casino doesn't either there is an element of forcing everyone to spend their money only in casinos,  because that is not possible. So the casino gets that profit from those who make a lot of mistakes in what they do (gambling).

what you have to do is like that, because it can reduce the risk of losing the money you have  also because the casino itself does not have an element of coercion so the profits that the casino gets are from people who are not smart about gambling  even though people It's smart to gamble,  but the casino will still make a profit, because many people like gambling so they continue to gamble without thinking about the losses that occur, and yes they should have limits, where they have to stop when they lose and win too, because there are also people who still continue gambling when they have won, even though the win is not worth the loss but what's the point of gambling smartly.
If there are gamblers who don't or don't understand this, it's their own fault because the casino is a place to gamble. Gamblers who come to casinos and gamble are expected to know that if they cannot control themselves, they will lose a lot of money, which will be difficult to recover. Even though gamblers can win from gambling games, their winnings still cannot be as much as the profits obtained by the casino. Gamblers must be aware of this so they only use a little money to gamble. People who gamble must be aware of this so that they can take precautions by limiting the money they spend on gambling.

We ourselves must reduce the risk of losing money and do not need to deposit a lot of money to chase wins or recover losses. We must realize that the stronger our desire to pursue victory or recover from loss, the more money we can lose. And if they have won, they should immediately stop gambling and leave the casino to save themselves and their money. They need to enjoy their hard-earned winnings from casinos and remember that they no longer have to chase winnings. They can come to the casino after resting so that their minds will be fresher and they can gamble without any burden.
1194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Higher and lower risks in gambling is the gamblers choice. on: January 18, 2024, 06:10:51 AM
Or if you do not mind small profit, you can bet with small risks. This is how I know it is in gambling. But also minding that gambling with little amount of money is very important. Using high amount of money for gambling is not advisable at all.
I don't mind small profits because I also bet with small money. So I understand that if I bet with small money, I cannot expect to make big profits. And I'm also okay with the small profits I get, especially since I'm not chasing big wins. I'm afraid of using big because there is a big risk of losing, especially if, later, after getting a big win, I could become greedy and try to chase other wins. So we must understand the risks we will accept if we use big or small bets. And as gamblers, we also shouldn't have the desire to chase big wins because that could result in big losses too. After all, it might be difficult for us to get the big win.
1195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: January 18, 2024, 05:25:58 AM
That is why a loan should only be given in the case of a true emergency and not in any other circumstance, because very often the loan is viewed from a very different perspective by both parties, with you expecting to get your money back relatively soon as promised, and the other party expects the loan to eventually become a gift and that you never even try to collect the debt, and if you do then there are bound to be a lot of problems, and they may even try to make you feel guilty by trying to recover something that is legitimately yours.
This loan is only for emergencies where someone needs money to meet their needs. But if the loan is not for something urgent, someone doesn't need to borrow money, especially for gambling, because it's just for fun, which we don't always do. But it's different if someone gambles too often and has pinned his hopes on gambling. He will borrow money from other people to gamble again and won't care about anything even if he loses again. We don't need to lend him money to gamble because later, both he and we will experience unpleasant problems that will strain our relationship with him.
1196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto gambling and religious restrictions on: January 18, 2024, 04:48:51 AM
With its about religion, its not about controlling your emotions in gambling or similar things like that, the religion ban the gambling and you cannot justify that since you will be a responsible gambler, it is allowed for you.  People whose religion prohibits them from gambling, they are not allowed to gamble, no matter what is the situation.
Yes, it should be like that, but the reality is that people already know that their religion prohibits gambling, but they still gamble. They argue that they can control themselves while gambling and they also don't use a lot of money and only use gambling for fun. It will be up to them because everyone will be responsible for their actions.

Again, for the religious people, there is nothing as a personal matter. If something is prohibited in religion, they have to accept it without arguments and if they deny it or do not follow it, then it means that they are violating their religion and may be held accountable for that.
Although no one in the world will give them punishment for not obeying the religion but still they will have to give answers to their God as why they did not obey the religion.
People who obey the laws of their religion will not want to try things that are prohibited by their religion, including gambling. They can differentiate between what is permitted and what is prohibited by their religion. They know that they will be held responsible later, so they don't want to take any risks. After all, they already have other things that can also give them pleasure. Whatever they do, it will be their responsibility, so they will do things that should not be prohibited by their religion and distance themselves from things prohibited by their religion.
1197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often do you win? on: January 18, 2024, 04:10:37 AM
The attraction of slot games is so great that people can become addicted and even crazy about the slot games they play. And if you can't stop but can still set limits in betting, I think it's still safe as long as you have the mind to stop for a moment and that's necessary.

Yes, what you say is true, when we see someone succeed in winning at slots, this indirectly also encourages someone to follow in their footsteps so that what other people think is that they can win and win, even though we already know and have heard. is that most people who play slots will experience losses more often than wins.
Playing slots, if we are not careful, can make us addicted, and we won't want to stop even for a moment unless the money runs out. That is why we must know how much money we can use to play slots. By allocating a certain amount of money to play slots, we will try to comply with the allocation of funds and immediately stop when the money is almost gone.

And because this slot game is very tempting, that is what makes people tempted to play slots, especially since they often see the big wins that people get. It makes them think that this slot game can give them big wins, but it turns out it's never that easy because this slot game requires luck, so they have to really realize it. If they just play slots and don't limit the amount of money, they could lose a lot of money, which will be difficult to recover.
1198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to manage gambling winnings on: January 18, 2024, 03:12:01 AM
It's a two way results, because there is the tendency that if you don't cash out and continue gambling you might end up losing your whole profit and also if you don't cash out and continue you can still have luck and win a major but the risk involved is quite big but that's what makes you a gambler I guess. Many times where I been faced with the situation of cash out my little earning or continue gambling for the big profits but results have all ended sideways. So saving up those little cash-out is not a bad option too.
If they do not cash out and instead choose to continue gambling, it will pose a risk for them because they could lose all their winnings. After all, there will be a desire to increase the amount of winnings by continuing to gamble. It's not good for them that if they can cash out, they can enjoy their winnings and choose to rest for a while. They can continue gambling again after taking a break and it is worth doing because they can reduce their tension after gambling and win. Gamblers who win can find their greed increases and that can make them continue gambling again.

A matter of good decision making and a balance to how you will accept the outcome, just like what you said it's more on how you will choose the possible outcome, either you will stop and take the sure earnings or will push for much bigger profits, it's tough since we all know that inside gambling there's no assurance to whatever will be the possible outcome, more on luck and if it's not your time expect the worse and learn how to move forward and forget about what happen.

Easy as it is but when it comes to a huge amount of money, things is really different especially if you already have that chance to quit but to pick that option and follow your greediness, once you lose there's a big regret that will keep haunt you.
Gamblers will be tempted to continue gambling because they want a bigger win than what they have already gotten. If they do continue gambling, they should be aware that it will have consequences for them and they could lose the winnings they could have withdrawn previously. But because their greed tells them to continue gambling, in the end, they will only lose all their money, including their winnings. This is the temptation of gambling that will come to every gambler who can win, so we need to have good self-control so we are not tempted.

With their self-control, they will not be easily tempted to continue gambling, especially if they can win a large amount of money. They should be able to choose to stop gambling rather than continue gambling. Continuing to gamble does not guarantee they will win again, but they have a big chance of losing.
1199  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: January 18, 2024, 02:37:33 AM
I agree with you that when gambling, I have good self-control so as not to get lost in the game, because I am well aware that gambling is just to fill the void and look for other activities from my real busyness.  talking about friends or relatives so they don't find out I always play alone rather than openly playing in front of them, because it will trigger someone who sees it if we let them see when we gamble, I also always limit the money for gambling and which money is for living needs, if money  put these together, it will be dangerous for my life, the advice you give or everyone on this forum is always my benchmark when playing gambling to be more careful when playing..
Every gambler must have self-control so that they can gamble within their limits. If they lose their limits, it will make them lose their money and it will be difficult to recover their losses. If they still choose to hide their gambling activities, they really have to pay attention to this issue of self-control and not lose it because that means they could endanger their finances. Once they lose self-control, everything will fall apart, and they can use more money to gamble so that they won't have any money. Limiting money for gambling is important so that we don't gamble excessively and also that we can have money for other daily needs. That means we can balance the allocation of gambling funds and prepare them for daily needs.
1200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to ride and stop! on: January 17, 2024, 10:43:39 AM
Gambling is basically about winning based on strategy.  The more a gambler gambles, the more experienced he becomes, at first he may face losses but as he gains experience he will be able to win consecutively. And excessive gambling leads to losses for the gambler. Taking risks in particular works best in gambling because it is never impossible to improve without taking risks.  That's why gambling requires risk and experience.
That's why we've got a lot of people that have a gambling problem because there's more losses than winning in gambling so people are mostly frustrated when they're gambling thus leading to them having to bet even more, it's basically a cycle that once it gets worse, even a win so big might not be enough satisfaction because they know that they're still at a loss with all the money that they've put in the gambling for that time and so it's another cycle for them.

Knowing when to stop is a difficult thing to do especially if you've been gambling for a really long time already, although you can learn it, it's going to take a lot of time so if anyone plans to learn that self-awareness thing, you need to be patient about the process.
Those who experience gambling problems are unable to use gambling as entertainment and instead make it a job to make money. Even though it's not what they imagined because they will experience a lot of losses and also waste their money. And even though he gambles more and more often and can have experience in gambling, if he can't learn to be responsible in gambling, he will only experience bigger problems.

We have seen what happens if someone gambles too much, so those of us who still enjoy gambling must be able to anticipate this. It's also for our good so that we don't have to experience an incident like what they experienced where they lost a lot of money and also experienced a gambling addiction. We must be able to make gambling entertainment and not try to make money instead of losing a lot of money.
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