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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 06, 2016, 08:50:08 PM
so what is the profit in this,if i invest almost $1000 i would get just $2.35 as dividend which is not at all a good investment ,how do we evaluate the progress of this project.

From what I understand, your $1000 investment gives you 8333 ICN
If we get 20% profit on the $4.6 million, that's $920K
920k*0.2/85mi = 0.002164705$ / icn
So for your $1000 investment, you get $18 on WEEKLY dividends from just iconomi.index

iconomi.performance is the fund that invests in ICOs and lucrative trading opportunities that could yield 300% or 500% returns, that's supposed to pay out much more than iconomi.index

AND you also have dividends from Open Fund Management platform, think of it as dividends from owning a share of eToro.com platform.

So that's 3 weekly income streams from your Iconomi investment.  Smiley

Yes but for that we would need 20% weakly profit which is somewhat unlikely.
Also, you need to divade the profit by 100 mil, not 85 mil, as there are 100 mil tokens. Iconomi team will get dividends from that 13 mil tokens they still own.
But I laso think, when performance fund shows profit, there will be a lot more money to consider than those $4,6 mil

well if the team is smart enough they'll choose to forfeit their profits for the first months to make a good impression and pump the dividends.

It's still trading below ico, so I hope they have focused on pumping the value for starters, that's what I would do if I wanted to stay afloat and expand.

Because right now you're fucking your investors, and I don't see how can you attract new ones when you've already fucked your original investors.

342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 06, 2016, 05:22:00 PM
If you own ICN tokens(dividends) then you receive dividends (ETH) to same address/wallet.

So, if you have ICN in Kraken, you'll receive ETH in your ETH address on Kraken?
Ofc not. Do you really think an exchange would give you the dividends for tokens THEY HOLD?

yeah,why not?
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 06, 2016, 05:15:00 PM
If you own ICN tokens(dividends) then you receive dividends (ETH) to same address/wallet.

So, if you have ICN in Kraken, you'll receive ETH in your ETH address on Kraken?
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 06, 2016, 05:12:13 PM
As Kraken isn't really friendly with my country

What do you mean?
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 05, 2016, 03:32:14 PM

have you seen Waves?
its been 7 months already and still nothing happens but the usual pumps and dumps. they haven't release full nodes yet. same thing with eth as it took years before they fly up. we'd be luckier if platform goes well by december.

Hope we see a swing in price as soon as possible. The sell side on Kraken is growing bigger and bigger at  22k, while the volume is rapidly decreasing to 15-20 btc a day.

The team needs to rejuvenate the market, hope they know it and are preparing something for it.
Trading below ico is really really bad for the image of any token/coin.
It's like saying fuck you to your investors, and right now we're getting a big FUCK YOU.
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: November 05, 2016, 02:09:05 PM

You are welcome. I believe Lisk will be at the forefront of the Web 3.0.

let's focus on Lisk making it past the stage of development and still being a clone of crypti, for now.
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 05, 2016, 09:54:00 AM
Why everyone ask for new exchange everyday?If you want to buy you can buy at liqui and kraken.New exchanges will not help raise it's price

Cause Polo is where all the traders are gathered, also has a trollbox, which makes it an ideal place for pumps and fomo.
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 05, 2016, 09:52:44 AM
Kraken is from Germany, at least their bank account is.
I use it already for years and never had a problem. I think they are more reliable than Bittrex.

yeah, don't know why's everyone bitching about kraken, there's no real authentication if you want to trade up to $50k a month, and be able to withdraw $10k a month.
They're cooperating with Fidorbank I think, which is based in Germany.
349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 05, 2016, 08:21:06 AM
just waiting the result of teamwork ICN
if it works nice polo and Bitrex will certainly add  Grin
March 2017 possibly then... hehehe only 5 months to go
I gave up on Polo and Btrex... they rly ticked me off.
Likely I will never trade at Polo again the way we were treated... and continue to be iggy'd.

They sure wasted no time listing that crap Zcrash with 3 friggin gig of ram used for every tx, no supply, and a non-functioning wallet. Utterly ridiculous.

March 2017 is too late, hope December 2016. I'll give them another month.
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: November 04, 2016, 06:40:02 AM
What is the opinion of Max and Oliver about Ark?
So far I have not read anything yet.


Please read the summary of the last community meeting.
Two questions, two answers.

https://blog.lisk.io/community-meeting-october-28th-2016-aca637cda482#.4d3d7xagz

A discussion about Ark would be better placed in the Ark thread.  Smiley

Thanks for that.
They are not really convinced.

You're right, sorry for offtopic.


But my problem is I bought some LSK at 21k for that ico.
Well I've been informed about Lisk and must say this is a very amazing blockchain project with a great potential.
And now I ask myself, should I better hodl my Lisk.


Well, don't put all your eggs in one basket Wink

No, I don't have to go hungry  Wink
But I think I'll keep my LSK for now.
Currently I don't trust the promises of Ark. And the Lisk Team makes a greater serious impression.


Did you know that Max stole all the code from founders in ARK who were founders of Crypti?  Told them about it the same time he put out a blog article about starting the lisk ICO?  

What about all the documentation for DPoS? Oh he just copy and pasted it from Crypti?

And the cool graphics explaining the difference between Lisk and Ethereum?  Oh that was actually a graphics explaining the difference between Crypti and Ethereum that Lisk felt was ok to copy over all references to crypti?  

It's ok, by all means don't invest.  But don't pretend that brand new account isn't just a shilling account.

Everyone at Crypti came out and Wished Max the best of luck when starting lisk even though he knew that the Crypti team was thinking of doing a second round ICO.  

But he can't even come out to tell us the same.

Great leader you got.  I personally change my mind now about lisk.


My account is brand new, but my brain is awake.

What has stolen Max?
It's open source. Are you stupid?  Grin

It looks like you're not a real supporter of Lisk. More like a hater and  FUDster.




It was closed sourced before max got access to all the files.

I'm done here, you're probably Vlom or some new shill account of his.

Don't worry, won't post here again.

LOl, What is Vlom? Are you totally confused.

And you're a team member of a project that wants to collect money from the people?

Horrible!!



- Crypti was open source under the MIT license, that's why we also have the Crypti copyright on GitHub to honour the license.
- The DPoS documentation was done by myself for Lisk only. At Crypti Matthew created a documentation which is completely different (check Crypti blog).
- I did the Crypti<>Ethereum chart. I also did the Lisk<>Ethereum chart. Both are my work.


Thanks, and now back to Lisk. Great things ahead, next week is going to be amazing!



https://lisk.io/whitepaper

>The Lisk paper will be published in 2017

Damn, what a trainwreck.
Highly doubt dapps will be even possible in Q1 of 2017.
What a sham.
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 03, 2016, 04:02:05 AM

Quite impressive to see ICN remain stable while BTC is going up so high.

Looks like everyone is holding tight to their ICN tokens.


the investors don't like to lose their money that's why the price won't drop to critical levels, 18k is good after the dump. If Iconomi be able to put the coin In one big exchange like Poloniex, the price will rise higher than the price before the  dump.

We don't need Poloniex, they're scumbags.
Kraken is better.
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 03, 2016, 02:22:48 AM
Mal I hope you are right cos things are looking sad since launch wtf

People are used to quick wins in cryptocoins.  ICONOMI is a long, slow play.   It's not going to pay off big until 2017.  But when it does pay off, it could pay off BIG.

I can wait.   I take great comfort in the ICONOMI price holding steady while Bitcoin rises.  

Few if any of the other alt coins are so fortuante right now.   I still believe in the idea behind Lisk, and I always will, but wow am I glad I am all out of Lisk for now.  I would have lost half my crypto bankroll by now if I had stayed with Lisk.  You've gotta keep thinking and looking for the Next Big Thing.  I still think that's ICONOMI.

I kinda disagree , I wont be surprised if it does 30x by the end of this year, see, iconomi is like  dynamite right now. All it takes is one spark.
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 02, 2016, 11:17:35 PM
could the team Iconomi invest in ICN token? ie hype up to arrive at the emotional level of people to buy it.

They could, I'd be pissed off if they did.
Well.. wait just 1 sec here,...
If Iconomi were to buy half the tokens with ico funds, and BURN the coins...
I would be okay with that.  Wink

That is quite devilish.
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 02, 2016, 09:28:11 PM
You guys don't understand how this works.

A performance fund is similar to day trading, taking advantage of unexpected movements and high-risk investments in the market. It is only possible to invest relatively little amounts in these short term markets because you need to be able to buy and sell very quickly.

There is no point having a vast reserve of BTC for these funds because most of it will not be used, but it will dilute the profits for all.

It needs to be small and nimble.
Sure, but you can also use the funds to manipulate the market and make money in a perfectly legitimate way. Which I hope they are doing.
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 02, 2016, 08:08:49 PM






Cant understand how is possible to drink a beer with an helmet.

for starters the beer would be frozen, since the temperature on the moon is around -298 degrees Fahrenheit
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: November 02, 2016, 01:50:18 AM
torrent

What went wrong in the past months, cannabanana?
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: November 01, 2016, 08:13:51 PM
Interviewen mit Maximilian.


http://www.captiongenerator.com/93870/INTERVIEW-WITH-MAX-KORDEK


358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 01, 2016, 07:47:56 PM

People this stupid deserve to loose their asses in crypto.

Loosen up, will ya?
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 01, 2016, 07:33:51 PM


3 days ago you were happy that "noobs dumped ICN to your bids".

Man, you are a tool. I'm amazed you know how to type.

Never said that, this is the one and only time I will be replying posts about me, I'm trying to focus on ICN, and I suggest you start doing the same. I'm just the voice of reason here.
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 01, 2016, 07:32:22 PM

And you thought their job was to pump ICN? I think you got things totally wrong and also invested in stuff just to make fast money, which didnt happen.

then I guess for lack of better terms, We're fucked.
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