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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 28, 2017, 09:22:38 AM
Do you have an agreement with large investors? I do not want to shovel the whole branch. Thank you in advance.

We have a marketing strategy which for obvious reasons we will not announce just yet, but we have a pretty good feel of how to attack the market and quickly incentivize merchants and users.
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 28, 2017, 07:48:28 AM
Will there be some demo before the ICO start? It will be a good thing if there is one. Investors feel confident when they have a working product even if it's in early stages.

No there isnt a demo.
I dont think there will be a demo ready before the ICO. But it will help to convince some investors.

UTRUST is a good project and I have high hopes for this.

It would be much better for the UTRUST team to release ALPHA before ICO starts. That would be a very good point for the potential investors. It does not matter if it is released a day before ICO for as long as the investors can take a look at it. Perhaps they are planning to release it during ICO.

Stay tuned!

I seen in whitepaper:
Multiple crypto currencies accepted

Can you give list of this crypto currencies? Which include?

I have ask that question before still waiting for an answer, i have to guess that the three leading currency will be in it but rest will b up to them, its a good project if they got the funds and really deliver what was written on the white paper.

Utrust will support some specific cryptocurrencies or all of them will work?

Unconfirmed, but you can expect Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Monero and their like. We will start with 10 + URUST.

Sure, just being popular is a guarantee. Roll Eyes Amazon still doesn't accept PayPal and that has been around when Vitalik Buterin was only 4 years old (probably busy learning Mandarin and C++).

🤣

Every day this thread grows by almost 10 pages! This means that the interest in the project is quite large. Let's see how successful ICO will be in the end. So far, the prospect seems good.

Certainly!
103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 27, 2017, 02:49:41 PM
in fact there are many third parties who provide facilities to pay for an item using bitcoin. does utrust have the same facilities to buy goods but you can use whatever cryptocurrency you want , and the next problem is the merchants? is it all merchants will be ready to accept utrust?
With UTRUST's cool features not found in today's.payment platforms, I think partner merchants will adapt it definitely.

We agree! But it's not only merchants. Think about it as both, a B2C and a C2C platform. If you owe your friend some money you can just go into the app and send him some. Even if you just have Ether or Monero and owe him U.S. Dollars and vice versa!
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 27, 2017, 12:33:24 PM
Has the date for the start of ICO been finalized or not yet ? All I can see on website is still keep telling that in first week of October. It seems that the crowdfunding will run all its period because $49 millions hardcap is not little though it is achievable. let's see how it moves ahead once the ICO starts in few days.

Not yet, we will announce it within the first week of October.

105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 27, 2017, 11:10:42 AM
Quick official clarification

  • Nobody has received their tokens yet.
  • Everybody will receive their tokens at the very same time (3 days after the ICO).
  • Our token is not on EtherDelta because it is not in circulation yet.
  • We cannot confirm any exchanges officially at this point.
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 27, 2017, 09:49:48 AM

Have there been any simulations carried out regarding the liquidity of the tokens with such a deflationary money policy? In other words, will the hoarding of the UTRUST tokens not hinder the functioning of the platform?

I would have to refer this to the technical department, but generally and from an economic point of view this is definitely undecided and on-going discussion between people that think inflation is necessary and people that think deflation is good. I will not get into the arguments here, but a good starting point to see the different views is this article in which the author argues that inflation is necessary while the commenters strongly disagree.

Personally, I think holding the tokens is not an issue since a lot of payments will be done through other currencies.


Isn't it the case that the UTrust Tokens are not necessary for the fuctionality of the platform? The platform would also work when users only pay in other cryptos and hold their UTrust tokens. The Tokens are more a contribution stake and represent the value of the whole UTrust platform and can, as a bonus, be used to pay on the platform.

That would be correct. However, and this is not officially confirmed or anything, I can imagine that UTRUST tokens will continue to develop use-cases, such as staking by merchants to provider more trust or similar.
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 27, 2017, 09:35:08 AM
Hi everybody,

Glad to see things running smoothly. looking to use UTRUST as payment and incentives in their Business's ....can see this really happening. when all things are smooth everyone would be better

As a developer myself, I honestly cannot wait to try out the MVP/SDK once released! I recently tried implementing crypto payments into one of my personal projects and I had to settle for Stripe. Unfortunately, Stripe does never give you access to the Bitcoins and instead immediately converts them at an unknown rate into USD. Not cool, but the most convenient I'm afraid. I also looked into BitPay and others, but they all feel half-baked.

All these things are a sign that project is doing great and it will be a success. Fudders gonna FUD though.

Please don't feed the trolls 🙃

Its a great strategy, lot of ICO's buy there tokens back to get more volume and the increase the price.
This can insure the investors they will get profit and can sell there tokens at a much higher price.

The more I now about Utrust the more I like it Smiley
Great work team

Thank you very much!

In other words keep hodling Smiley until you're the last guy left and sell the tokens for 1 mil USD

Hah, the dream ✨

Judging by the table, Utrast has a weighty advantage over paypal and bitpay.
Low fees for sellers - 1% of the transaction amount will be permanent or maybe a change in better or worse?

We definitely aim to disrupt the industry. That does not mean that other projects will not adapt. And this is the very reason why competition is good. If your business is threatened, you innovate (think Lufthansa to Eurowings/RyanAir (EU) or American Airlines > Jet Blue, for example). This is almost always in favor of the end-user and will further everybody's vision of mass adoption!

Have there been any simulations carried out regarding the liquidity of the tokens with such a deflationary money policy? In other words, will the hoarding of the UTRUST tokens not hinder the functioning of the platform?

I would have to refer this to the technical department, but generally and from an economic point of view this is definitely undecided and on-going discussion between people that think inflation is necessary and people that think deflation is good. I will not get into the arguments here, but a good starting point to see the different views is this article in which the author argues that inflation is necessary while the commenters strongly disagree.

Personally, I think holding the tokens is not an issue since a lot of payments will be done through other currencies.

DAMN!

how can you just filter out whats right and whats wrong in this thread by now? everything is getting more and more confused

What is so confused to you.?
Check out their website or their promo video. The system may be complicated but its not ambiguous.

i am confused about the differing post in here. there are people who declare it as scam and others who say that its will be the thing. in promo there wont be written anything bad

There is exactly 1 user in here that spreads fear and uncertainty and this one is a hardline supporter and investor of Monetha. Our community is actually pretty transparent and we're sharing all the information we have. I suggest you do your own research and if you have any questions, just ask! I'm coming here at least once a day to answer them all.

Hope this answers it! Smiley
108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 27, 2017, 07:15:05 AM
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How will this strategic value coupling work? Each time a buyer pays with any cryptocurrency via UTRUST payment platform a percentage of the transactional fee is used to buyback UTRUST token and remove them from the market.

Wow... Its great strategy! Some projects take away himself tokens for transaction. Here devs make a right solution. Burning this tokens will going to increace price.  Roll Eyes

We sure hope so! Smiley
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 27, 2017, 06:46:58 AM
what are u talking about? can u post a link or smtg ? that red letters realy atracted my eyes want to know more now please share if u have something Cheesy

He is referring to my post in on Monetha thread that can be found here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1978067.msg22228719#msg22228719

It was very well received by users in their thread and further shows that he is pretty much on his own personal agenda.
110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 26, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Rather than gleefully defend UTRUST, All i can advice is you do your due research before considering any investment. If it makes sense, then proceed. if not invest somewhere else. You should never invest on an ICO cos you read that it was a great project from some BTC talk profile. Most ppl have ulterior motives, so do yourself a favor and do your research.

This is the right answer right here!

DYOR (Do Your Own Research) on every project you consider investing in.

Do not believe statements blindly, neither positive nor negative.

Of course, I as the Community Manager believe we will be a strong success, but everybody should decide this for themselves and there are guarantees anywhere. Not here, not at Monetha.

You correctly write everything. On the other hand, you have written in white paper that you are guaranteed to protect the parties from unfair transactions. To do this, act as a guarantor, and the funds pass through you. But this reduces the speed of payments. Over time, the rating of counterparties increases and the speed of payments increases. But where is the guarantee that the fraudster first earns a reputation, then to take advantage of this? Scammers can prepare for this for years. And I know such cases. Three years earn themselves an excellent reputation, and then in one day commit fraud for a huge amount. What can you oppose to this option?

I will have to refer this to the technical team but am not sure there is anything we could do to prevent this. Of course, there will be KYC and AML for merchants so if they are still trying to scam after years, you could probably come after them legally.

Dev. Do you have any news about the official crowsale release date because in my country they are very keen to invest in this ICO. I hope you will update soon because a lot of people in my country are interested in your project.

As other have already correctly mentioned, the ICO date will be announced in first week of October.

Despite all the recent fud, it would be ideal if UTrust manages to have a prototype before or during the ICO in October.

I would also like to see a prototype/demo/alpha. For a lot of investors, this is a sign that the team and project is serious, development is underway and that it's not just a good idea.

Yes, true! And with numerous engineers in their team they should be able to offer potential investors a kind of demo/prototype.

You never know 😉 ✌🏻

Do you plan to use Raiden Network when it will be out? And do you think that Raiden Network will match paypal transactions speed? This is important imho

This I will have to refer to the technical team as well. Already asked them and will get back to you once I hear back.

Update
I already heard back, the official statement is:
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Blockchain technology is always evolving and the beauty of UTRUST's platform is that it can adapt and accept different blockchain transaction. Raiden might be one to consider in the future.

- Kakumei
Official Community Manager
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 26, 2017, 01:40:10 PM
nice to move away from slack. discord channel https://t.co/LqWf0eyqxJ is better. tired of all scam emails

Thanks for sharing! This is legit. We're slowly but surely moving Discord.
112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 26, 2017, 12:33:29 PM
Rather than gleefully defend UTRUST, All i can advice is you do your due research before considering any investment. If it makes sense, then proceed. if not invest somewhere else. You should never invest on an ICO cos you read that it was a great project from some BTC talk profile. Most ppl have ulterior motives, so do yourself a favor and do your research.

This is the right answer right here!

DYOR (Do Your Own Research) on every project you consider investing in.

Do not believe statements blindly, neither positive nor negative.

Of course, I as the Community Manager believe we will be a strong success, but everybody should decide this for themselves and there are guarantees anywhere. Not here, not at Monetha.
113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 26, 2017, 08:56:45 AM
If I want to buy/sell anything using fiat money, will it be possible? On which terms it will be converted and what is the convertion rate? how it will be counted

You can use UTRUST as a fiat exchange if that is what you mean. The rate will be the market rate of several partner exchanges.

please explain to me if you can, what is the effect to the investor if dev burn, freeze or disrtibute the remaining tokens.

which is the bad action and good action.

When we burn tokens in circulation, the tokens you hold become more valuable. Simple as that! Smiley

In every succesful ICO someone appears, who starting fuds. So dont wourth pay attention for this.
I hope this project will have a nice succes.

Thank you so very much!
114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 26, 2017, 07:20:25 AM
Any platform that is trying to bridge the gab between Fiat and crypto users should be very welcome in the crypto space. We are all hoping/praying for mass
adoption by the "real" world. Lets hope utrust can be a big part of doing this, it will be good for all of us crypto users

Thank you!

I see they have raised $3,500,000 during pre-ICO, what was the pre-ICO price? and as they plan to sell 700,000,000 at $0.065, what will happen to unsold tokens, will they distribute it among participants, burn it, or freeze it for certain period of time?

Yes, we raised $3.5m during our pre-ICO at a price of $0.03 (50 million tokens).

  • The public ICO will sell tokens at $0.052 (Early Supporter Reward) and $0.065 (normal price).
  • Unsold tokens will be burnt forever, effectively decreasing the total supply!
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 26, 2017, 06:58:37 AM
That´s the point. And to be honest there are much more high risk concepts out there.
No risk, no reward and with UTRUST you have a balanced scale for shure.

From a personal perspective, I know that any ICO has risks. I invested into UTRUST after reading the Whitepaper and before I became part of their team, so I truly believe we got something here. Yes, of course there are risks involved. And yes, it is going to be a lot of work. But the team powering UTRUST is Subvisual with 15 engineers. This was good enough for me!

I also like how much attention UTRUST pays to their community. I alone spend 1.5 - 2 hours every day on BitcoinTalk to answer as many questions as possible. We are also on Slack, Discord, Telegram and WeChat and really want to stay in touch with everybody.

I actually posted in the Monetha thread earlier to clarify some things and the users there are very reasonable. It's just a selected few that hurt the entire community by spreading toxic messages.

We can be truly grateful that the majority of users everywhere is trying to share information and support each other.

Let's do this everybody! 🚀 💯
116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 26, 2017, 06:02:58 AM
Alright! It's about time a company came out and just said: " hey Paypal, You're doing it wrong!" I've been saying it for years I just never backed my Paypal frustration with action. Unless you include 20+ hours on the phone with their "customer disservice" line. So UTRUST had me at no chargebacks. But of course, I will have to dig a bit deeper. Because a catchy line isn't enough to totally win me over. But it is enough to get me to download the whitepaper.

I hear you! While many users never have issues with PayPal, if you happen to actually need support, you're in for a fun ride!

What exactly will tokens be used for on the utrust platform?

Imagine them as the very same thing as PayPal balance, with the difference of UTRUST tokens deflating instead of inflating like fiat.
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] MONETHA - Decentralised reputation with built-in payments on: September 26, 2017, 05:58:56 AM
To all monetha guys please stop sending you employee Yury1 to utrust ann and spreading fud. What’s wrong with you guys do something your own rather than pulling down other good and better projects. Only bad projects need to pay this kind of guys to spared fud.By posting the above conversation he prove that he is a part of your team. Otherwise eric is never have any chat with any of us in this forum

This is our forum mate for Monetha only, no fud from UTrust here thanks. We know what you and your team are up to. Enough proof already --> https://imgur.com/lLBkZ2n

Clearly you want people to sell MTH so they buy your s**tcoins

Hi everybody,

I'm Kakumei, community manager of UTRUST and I just wanted to chime in here once to clarify a few things.

While going through your thread I have seen several pictures that have been modified to further your cause. By doing this you are not only hurting Monetha, but the entire blockchain community. In this example above the last line was added. Robin never said the one implying Monetha was a scam.

We have been very outspoken (even in our recent live AMA on YouTube/Reddit) that we respect the Monetha team and admire their marketing skills, too. The entire space is still very young and there is plenty of time for Monetha, UTRUST and other projects to coexist. This is not a "winner takes it all" situation. We don't need to fight each other to further our causes and I'd like for the community to become less toxic, i.e. stop spreading FUD and instead support each other on our way up into an industry that, while currently still in its infancy, could be a multi trillion dollar one in the end.

Relax everybody, if you truly believe in the project you invested it then you are likely to be on the right train 🚀

This will be the first and last time I drop in here, but if anybody has some questions I am happy to answer them in our thread.

I hope this clarifies our official standpoint.

Happy investing!
118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 26, 2017, 05:33:27 AM
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You can absolutely use UTRUST for trading, but the fee will be a little higher (1% vs 0.25% on Bittrex for example).

You mean trading inside platform? In which way? Convert one cryptocurrency to other or to fiat?
1% - its fixed for all cryptocurrencies?

You can convert any crypto into fiat and your fiat into any crypto we support.
1% on all crypto, yes.

For example:
If you pay $100 in Bitcoin to a merchant, your crypto is immediately converted to USD. If you should get a refund eg through the buyer protection, then you will receive a fiat credit of $100 and not your Bitcoin. You can however then choose to convert your refunded $100 into any of our supported cryptos.

Hope this helps!
119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 25, 2017, 09:16:30 PM
You are wrong, why did you take such terms?
If you do not like the project then don't impose your negative in the topic.

Thanks for the great support. Just look at his post history 👌🏻

We will take it as a compliment, the more often he posts the more urgent he thinks he needs to talk down UTRUST. Silver lining, we are being hyped!

Again, thank you everybody for your support, it’s greatly appreciated!

The best you can do about him is to keep spreading the good word and keep posting here. Educate others on what he is doing 👍🏻🚀
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: September 25, 2017, 08:07:58 PM
wondering that how is exchange rate going to be when you do conversion? real time or some what behind?



We will implement a few exchange partners to get the best market price.

Or are you talking about the ICO? In that case, we will take the exchange rate of the time of your transaction.
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