There has just been an update to the situation in the XMR thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg8667761#msg86677612014/08/04 Attack: Update 1
Here's what we've ascertained thus far: the "bad block" occurred at 202612. Immediately thereafter there was 202613, which also has oddities, and then at 202614 the network forked. The "A" part of the network has "c29e3dc37d8da3e72e506e31a213a58771b24450144305bcba9e70fa4d6ea6fb" as the block hash on 202614, the "B" part of the network has "ed4eea6109a1b662cf4a3bb372ed4bdee588160b0ac371c2ad78c5e603b8f2ac" as the block hash on 202614. Ultimately the "A" part won, and is the current fork. The "B" part is dead and has not proceeded beyond block 202647.
Thus the good news is that the consensus code works, and only one fork has survived. The bad news is that those on the bad fork are not reorganising back to the fork, and that is something we will need to look at fixing in future - the consensus code is so aggressive that it refuses to believe that the peers on the "good" fork are correct.
To determine if you are on the good or the bad (dead) fork, you can check "diff" in your daemon window. If you are stuck on 202647 or thereabouts, you will need to delete your blockchain and sync from scratch. I strongly suggest using the blockchain bootstrap downloads from the OP, as those are on the correct fork. Please note that the Windows blockchain bootstrap download has not been checked and updated as yet, I will be doing so in the next few hours, so we have rolled back to a Windows blockchain from a few weeks back. The Linux and OS X blockchain bootstraps are fine.
The next step is to determine how, exactly, 202612 & 202613 managed to cause this, which is what we've been doing concurrently and will continue to do. You can use Monero with caution if you are on the main chain, we will continue to update as we proceed.
NB: no funds have been lost, and there will be no blockchain rollback. If you transacted on the dead fork it was only live for about 35 minutes, so chances are little happened of relevance. Once you are on the good fork you can re-sync your wallets and any funds you sent on the dead fork will reappear.
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2014/08/04 Attack: Update 1
Here's what we've ascertained thus far: the "bad block" occurred at 202612. Immediately thereafter there was 202613, which also has oddities, and then at 202614 the network forked. The "A" part of the network has "c29e3dc37d8da3e72e506e31a213a58771b24450144305bcba9e70fa4d6ea6fb" as the block hash on 202614, the "B" part of the network has "ed4eea6109a1b662cf4a3bb372ed4bdee588160b0ac371c2ad78c5e603b8f2ac" as the block hash on 202614. Ultimately the "A" part won, and is the current fork. The "B" part is dead and has not proceeded beyond block 202647.
Thus the good news is that the consensus code works, and only one fork has survived. The bad news is that those on the bad fork are not reorganising back to the fork, and that is something we will need to look at fixing in future - the consensus code is so aggressive that it refuses to believe that the peers on the "good" fork are correct.
To determine if you are on the good or the bad (dead) fork, you can check "diff" in your daemon window. If you are stuck on 202647 or thereabouts, you will need to delete your blockchain and sync from scratch. I strongly suggest using the blockchain bootstrap downloads from the OP, as those are on the correct fork. Please note that the Windows blockchain bootstrap download has not been checked and updated as yet, I will be doing so in the next few hours, so we have rolled back to a Windows blockchain from a few weeks back. The Linux and OS X blockchain bootstraps are fine.
The next step is to determine how, exactly, 202612 & 202613 managed to cause this, which is what we've been doing concurrently and will continue to do. You can use Monero with caution if you are on the main chain, we will continue to update as we proceed.
NB: no funds have been lost, and there will be no blockchain rollback. If you transacted on the dead fork it was only live for about 35 minutes, so chances are little happened of relevance. Once you are on the good fork you can re-sync your wallets and any funds you sent on the dead fork will reappear.
Thanks for the update. Keep up the good work. Hopefully you will be able to fix the issue in short time.
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Interesting thought: Would the CEOs of the exchanges know the reason for the low price? I mean, they obviously know who are dumping and putting up huge ask walls. If the account belongs to payment processing companies, obviously they are cashing out highly likely due to the coins from merchants. If the account belongs to institutional funds, obviously they are trying to control the price. If the account belongs to miners, obviously they are cashing out mined coins.
Frankly, I'm not aware of anything to prevent the exchanges front running the market. It would be profitable and very hard to prove, therefore it is probably happening. Rule #1: If there is money involved, someone is doing it.
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Vorhin gabs eine erfolgreiche Attacke auf die XMR blockchain. Der Handel aller Cryptonote Coins wurde angehalten auf den meisten Exchanges. Ich hoffe keinr von euch hält XMR/BBL/etc.
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I got also in touch with HitBtc, urging them to stop withdrawals and trading. Further, I offered my time to help the Monero devs. I also decided to keep the options markets open so you can still hedge (although I am afk for the next 6 hours mostly). Calm down everyone! rpietila is here to save the day! Thank our savior! You sound like a religious tard. You sound like someone who needs to wiki the keyword "sarcasm". You are welcome.
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I got also in touch with HitBtc, urging them to stop withdrawals and trading. Further, I offered my time to help the Monero devs. I also decided to keep the options markets open so you can still hedge (although I am afk for the next 6 hours mostly). Calm down everyone! rpietila is here to save the day! Thank our savior!
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This could be the launch up to a new high. Let's go people!
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Let's crash to 300 already and get it over with. At least more cheap coins for all of us. New ATH will come for sure in the next year.
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Any news of go live @Polo?
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Verdammt.... Hätte meine Guldencoins noch ein wenig halten sollen...
100% Zuwachs in 2 Tagen...
Scheint nen fähiges Team dahinter zu stecken...
Das war der Pump, nun kommt der Dump. Bis Ende des Jahres wird der Coin von seinem Hoch ungefähr 95% verlieren. Wie so ziemlich jeder Coin bisher. Ich sehe keinen Grund, warum das bei NLG anders sein sollte. Fähige Entwickler gab es schon viele - hat noch nie geholfen. Bei BTCD/NXT sieht es anders aus bis jetzt. Mal schauen ob du recht behälst.
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I have $0 in BTCD and yet I am still interested in the SuperNET project
As far as I understand it the shares will be held in BTC not BTCD/NXT.
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Kind of odd that seandaniel was very active on the forums up until the 29th (which coincidentally is the date he got negative Trust). Then suddenly he lost all interest in posting. No new loan requests, nothing. I hope he's ok.
Well he is still active and browsing the forums as far as I can see. I'm just hoping he clears things up soon and continues with his gift card business.
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Hi
What is a loan you can provide based of my trust and history?
I tried other threads with no avail since lenders were awaiting for other loans to be paid first.
Purpose is an altcoin market entry. Anything under 0.25 I will not consider taking. Length is max 19 days for full assurance. I will consider interest up to 20%.
Thank you
I can do 0.25 with 110% collateral in a stable altcoin.
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What's going on with your API? Can't place sell or buy orders any more....
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Ok,james effect is amazing,you can run a company james..
Nope, his talent is more valuated here fiat world is too competitive, not much fun and if you dont have enough money you have no chance big salaries, maybe unions, labor laws, expensive offices, overhead, meetings, I think I will keep doing crypto This highlights the potential of crypto - it really is one of the last truly free markets on earth for innovators, innovation, trade and growth. Really hope scammers/governments/regulators dont ruin the great potential of this ecosystem. There always were, are and will be "criminals" in every ecosystem.
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Exciting times ahead! Not sure about I feel about trusting Poloniex with this kind of money tho.
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Finally! Dividend was paid out last night.
@Cannabit: Any chance of getting a detailed dividend breakdown?
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Yeah I already saw that. Also talked with haploid about it before. Let's see maybe he will come through.
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I saw this one coming. I was the first to give him loans, but also the first to stop lending to him for too many red flags. Then several other lenders took the opportunity to loan to him once I stopped . Either during or after his second loan with me, he: 1) stacked multiple loans, lied about it. 2) had a loan with BiPolarBob, long overdue, kept quiet about it until someone called him out. 3) started requesting large amounts in quick successions. 4) offered his forum account and LBC account as collateral. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8308785#msg8308785https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701592.msg8323803#msg8323803Yes he had two successful loans with me, but I stopped because of those recent dodgy behaviors, and I got out in time. When someone starts offering their account as collateral or try to sell it, that should be the biggest hint to not deal. It could be dumped any time, or the new owner will scam you. Yeah, had no good feeling about this from the start. Should have listened to my gut I guess. Well, there is still hope he clears things up.
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