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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | 1 Million RISE Give-Away | Delegate Contest on: April 27, 2017, 12:53:03 AM

What´s going on? from 300 to 900 satoshis? https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-RISE

Dead cat bounce, sane people never buy this coin because they scammed people once, twice, and there will be more times. No future of this coin, this one is definitely dooming eventually.

theres still volume to it 5K USD still is a good one for someone who holds a ton of these coin will really be making profits even when price just get a bit of 12% spike.  any news of the chipz and its distribution?


First Rise mainnet will be updated so that the community members can start taking their positions as active Rise Delegates and start forging Rise rewards.

Chipz will be airdropped after that at a yet to be determined release date. This date will be announced as soon as it is available.




Let me give you an update on this.
The money dissapeared, somehow their bank account was hacked?Huh

Do you believe it? Well yes it happened. 1700 BTC are gone? The wanted to file a report but then they realized the no institution would believe them. Yes they google person.

Welcome back to reality. I lost 1 btc in this. But the press message is priceless...

Can you share with us some additional infos on the project going on?  Is there any way to buy back (e.g. putting a buywall on RISE from the ICO funds) from us?
We don't, and won't forget, what devs have done with is.  Where can we follow what is going on?

Edited to proof Frank Thijssen was indeed involved in this scam:
http://imgur.com/a/HTNU6
http://imgur.com/a/cqMve

Would love that someone steps up. What we need is a bot who contact their friends and explain about this scam.

To do list
- Website with hosting paid for 10 years. Cost probably
Domain 10 x 10 bucks  @100
Hosting 10 x 30 bucks @ 300
Website 1 x 500 bucks @ 500
SEO 1 page 1 for their names  4 x 300 bucks @ 1200

Would love to do it but will not cover the cost alone. Some bucks can be sent to 1FM55HA2vexsBoe9LtKHJCo2JbtqiWm9MM


2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | 1 Million RISE Give-Away | Delegate Contest on: April 27, 2017, 12:48:17 AM
Thanks for all the updates McVenture !

Frank Thijsen a.k.a. mcventure had enough money from the scam, didn't you read? Here it is from the rise website:
https://rise.vision/team

http://imgur.com/a/hn3dl
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | 1 Million RISE Give-Away | Delegate Contest on: April 27, 2017, 12:46:36 AM
Big Bang Soon  Lips sealed

Yes don't you love it that when you google their name you find this
http://imgur.com/a/VKMbG

I do.

All we need now is SEO on this group of retards.

The good things both justin and cormac are well index in google.

All we need to do is to get this PR to scammer Steven Remmington and Frank Thijssen
Yes he removed his picture but this is bitcointalk:

For the last 14 years Frank has worked freelance in the fields of IT, Audio/Video Production, Media, Marketing, Web and Graphic Design. He has helped build and manage business startups in several countries. Having been actively part of the crypto scene nearly from the beginning, he is greatly interested to remain on the forefront of new technologies such as Rise.

A dedicated post to my buddy, partner in crime Frank Thijssen. If you think I did not say it enough I will make it up.
Frank Thijssen scammer, Frank Thijssen scammer, Frank Thijssen scammer, Frank Thijssen scammer

Another one for my best friend 4 life Steven Remmington scammer;
Steven Remmington scammer,Steven Remmington scammer,Steven Remmington scammer

Now, how far are you guys with cloning lisk code for 1.6 million dollar? Cormac Lucking?
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | 1 Million RISE Give-Away | Delegate Contest on: April 02, 2017, 10:01:49 PM
Funny how people sell at a lower price because they like to Gamble, and then scream wolf when things don't go there way ,  I PM'ed the Rise Founders and had a chat with them and they advised me what the issue was that delayed the project.   Did you speak to anyone or just found the names as easy targets.

As a large Investor I'm still confident Rise will deliver,  But to me by sending out posts without evidence of any kind, only screws the current investors and their are many of us still in RISE, none of you are willing to show your faces .... The founders would not have post up there faces if they were going to rip us off .... Yes the project had an issue with DPC (Don't Panic Consulting) as they were unable to deliver. But calling everyone a Scammer is a little lame.

Show us your real names and faces and home addresses. .......and how many RISE you own,

The remaining Investors are getting ready to become Delegates and move this project forward ...Im sorry you all sold out ,, I think i picked up all your sell orders .You sold cheap

I'm not going to start a debate .....I have said my piece ....


The following were all called Scams by people.............. listed below under CryptoCurrency you will find them all

CryptoCurrency on Coinmarketcap -   782 Coins/Tokens ....   You place your Bets and Pray or Cry. 

https://coinmarketcap.com/

You want to see faces, yet you use a new newbie account?

But from reading your post history (all 7 of them) you seem to be someone who is a little slow understanding. Even now you try to protect your investment, not understanding the press release that went out.
My advice is, withhold yourself from trading, obviously you have no clue what you are doing.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | 1 Million RISE Give-Away | Delegate Contest on: April 01, 2017, 10:05:46 PM
I'm happy to say it's finally done.

There were some problems with the writer but we managed to finish and distribute it to PRBUZZ.com, from there it's distribute to hundreds of news outlets:
https://www.prbuzz.com/business-entrepreneur/417760-rise-investors-warn-bitcoin-community-against-fraudsters.html

Google has already indexed those other news outlets
http://imgur.com/a/lN5P1
http://imgur.com/a/xZ8mH

Remember  this three fraudsters: Justin Donnaruma, Cormac Lucking and Steven Remmington did succeed in scamming us, but now they won't be able to do that again, to anyone!
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 18, 2017, 02:25:05 AM
im gonna need dummy 1click tutorial for delegate, never done this before

It won't be just a few clicks, but we'll make sure to create a clear step-by-step guide that will be easy enough to follow for most people on how to set up their Delegate Nodes.



You are right Frank Thijsen. We should make it easy for the common man.
The next venture will be to register a domain and pay for 30 years with a simple HTML website, where your names as a scammer will be displayed.

1700 BTC is a lot of money you guys scammed from us.
But you idiots forgot that if we can bring up 1.7 million, we can also pay hosting for 30 years worth like
30 x 10 = 300 dollars for a domain
30 x 30 = 900 dollars for hosting

and tag your names till infinity!

You play dirty we play dirty!
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 18, 2017, 02:19:49 AM
CLOAK #54 is shining among top 100 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cloakcoin/ this was a hopeless coin too
it sure takes time to recover https://www.cloakcoin.com/en/team.html


RISE  #155 not really ZERO with no results, it will have its time too to https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/rise/


im trying to be FAIR, mark this, there is no SCAM anymore in RISE,
no more ICO to scam, they can only do so if they dump the RISE that dev are holding, which they are not/haven't done it (LET'S WATCH THEM TOGETHER !!)
http://explorer.rise.vision/address/12742173876007274079R Alty
http://explorer.rise.vision/address/13102210407944929481R if im not mistaken there is more?
so crying SCAM is not helping anything, what RISE have now only moving up, and delivers
gave alty and scifi time to make things right

.

i intentionally quote below so everyone can see there is hope
despite the drama, below 5SDKs are not all the development, its just the context is "How are you going to add the other types of programming to Rise?"


How are you going to add the other types of programming to Rise?

I'm curious to know ... Smiley

dont they already add it?

Yes, there are already 5 basic alpha versions of SDKs (software development kits) available, namely for C#, JAVA, Ruby, Node.js and Python.  Download them on Github.

In fact, the Rise desktop wallet developed by Mody1996 made use of the Rise SDK for C#.

Newer versions of the SDKs will need to be developed though, especially to keep them compatible with the latest LSK code base.




and this is our friend
lokesh8 http://explorer.rise.vision/address/4732783005719704103R
lordrusher http://explorer.rise.vision/address/14488868891381395457R he still have around 2million more in bittrex

Hello my retard friend, You should seek some help. Promoting bogus stories will not get your money back.
Didn't you know that none of the Rise Developers can actually promote or do marketing?

Yes, you, me us invested in a group of morons who are not even capable to do 1 thing good.


Alty, Cormac Lucking was involved in Cloack too. But then they got a new team and voila it went up.

So let's got deeper into Cormac Lucking. He has been a serial scammer. Even worse then Justin. Who just got 100k.

Today I am happy to announce that The Rise Scam is official and it is going mainstream.
@Cormac, Justin, Steven and Frank it's time for a little repentance. Some kind of fun for investors. 1700 BTC is a lot.

But hell if you can think what just  0.115 BTC can do you would instantly left your yacht and actually go programming.
Oh wait you can't.

Payback is a bitch
The paypal guy did was one of us. A guy whom you scammed and he did a lot of free things but gave more ideas how to hurt you back.

More when we release the press release.



8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 15, 2017, 11:42:59 PM
Press release is ready.

I see most distribution services work with paypal or CC. Can someone who support the cause contact me so I can transfer the funds and he/she starts distribution?

Can you send me the press release ?

Please be a little more patient.
I've justpaid a guy to double check it and publish it on large news outlets/press release centres.
I know it took some time from my side, but as stated the PR is ready, publishing it will take no more then a day or 2 (I was promised)


Im a large Investor in RISE

Guys i can't hate and cry as i have to much invested in Rise to turn away...like a few others i have nattered to...its still early days for Crypto so I am in for the long haul

So I Invested in Rise at ICO time and after as the price was dropping and still believe its alive and kicking, I have not heard anything that has changed my mind,  I do know that they had a set back and the developer that was working on Rise 2.0 was asked to leave as he was not a completer and finisher (my trait as in Belbin Team roles).  And a new developer was sourced and is looking at the code base, The 2 remaining Rise founders have gone back to there original plan to release a LISK clone,  and are calling it RISE CLASSIC (Rises tactical solution), so the most urgent task is to release RISE CLASSIC (Lisk clone) and get it working, and in the future look at the strategic solution which is Rise 2.0 but that could be some time away. so my understanding is Phase 1 - Rise Classic ....Phase 2 - Get 101 Delegates ready.....Phase 3...Get Forging... Phase 4....Look at Rise 2.0 options and build.

Their plan is to get DPOS (Delegated Proof of Stake) working as a baseline product and get the Delegated/Forging service up and running, Thats what i want to do ...get Forging(mining).

The old developer did complete the SDK's as indicated in the white Paper https://github.com/RiseVision/Documentation/blob/master/whitepaper.md

some of the Developers SDK's
Rise Javascript SDK
Rise Python SDK
Rise Ruby SDK
Rise C# SDK
Rise Java SDK

But looking to the future i'm keeping my options open. And will try my best to support Rise ..... In it to win it ......or winner winner chicken dinner... I have rolled my dice

Peace






I feel very sad for you. Like many others you will probably lose quite some money. But giving false hope is not good either.
Please sit down and considered the facts
- Rise has been dumping coins on bittrex on day 1,2,3. That's a fact because no other investors (even a whale) won't sell that fast under the ICO Price with this large amount of RISE (probably a couple of hundred thousand dollars win for the RISE team.
- Justin use ICO funds to launch his own company: 200k lost
- Steven after feeling the pressure starting tweeting again about RISE
- Alty has been involved in other scams
Both scamsters keep paying them self for literary NO work delivered. None. another 100k lost

The current plan on the table is to clone LISK.

What in your right mind do you think when investors see this coin? Or an exchange for that matter?
Integrating, investors a coin which has fraudulent founders?
No community support?
No innovation?

Exactly, there is no incentive. Not now, not for the future not ever. At least for the investors.
The founders will get a nice time earning hundred of thousands of dollars, but their name will be blacklisted. Period!
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 15, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
Press release is ready.

I see most distribution services work with paypal or CC. Can someone who support the cause contact me so I can transfer the funds and he/she starts distribution?
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 09, 2017, 01:23:57 PM
And what will be the next move? To be or not to be Rise 2.0 project?

My move is to make a press release.

Got caught up in work, so expect something the next few days.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 07, 2017, 01:07:21 PM
People; could you please stop whining about getting scammed and start with some action?

We had some very good proposals; i will break them down for you:

1. Report them:
Report the RISE Team to the SEC: https://denebleo.sec.gov/TCRExternal/disclaimer.xhtml
The more People are willing to file a complaint report, the higher our chances get for a thorough Investigation. I cannot stress this enough; the RISE Team made the huge mistake to operate from the U.S. territory. The SEC can make their life become a living hell.

2. Spread the news:
We had a good proposal regarding a small funding for a news distribution campaign. Everybody should know our side of the story; the story how we are keep getting scammed. Get in contact with Coindesk. Since this was one of the bigger ICOs of 2016 we have a story here...

3. Sue the shit out of the Rise team:
I am willing to start a class action lawsuit against the Rise team. But I Need people who are willing to join into the lawsuit. I have a lawyer at hands who dealt with crypto before. Contact me if you want to join.

4. Dox them
Their faces are all over FB, Twitter, LinkedIn etc. Comment on their channels, call their relatives, call their employers. Make them pay emotionally

This is the exact thing we should do.

I got 140 USD (thanks for who contributed) and I will publish as much information I have on the clone i made
www.risescammers dot tk


The funds I got will fully be used to:
Spread the news
Make sure there are enough backlink so Google will not forget


Except for donating to this cause there are plenty things you can do.
1. If someone can make a twitter we can use that channel too to spread news + retweets.
2. Make sure to sent the press release i am working on is sent to bitcoin news media. I will do that too but the more ppl
3. File the SEC form
https://denebleo.sec.gov/TCRExternal/disclaimer.xhtml
4. Calling relatives seems to be harsh, but we can setup a bot that will contact all of their linkedin/facebook contacts and tell them to be carefulwith them because they stole over 2M.
Use 1700 BTC in combination with the CURRENT value which is 2.091.000 USD.

The more (news/social media) sources talk about them, the less likely they can ever do this again.

P.S. Also note that Cormac Lurcking have been the mastermind of more scams.
That's why he didn't appear in video's. He seems to be the American Patrick/Steven Dai.

Here is a good quality picture of this scumbag:
http://imgur.com/a/zAqWL
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 06, 2017, 10:16:46 PM
justin is a sly-eyed piece of shit, and that mofo alty isn't blameless either

Justin and the other two wanna be developers needs to return the $60,0000. they did nothing so they don't have the right to have  been received that money

You can't call them developers. Their skill set reach to a level of basic webdesign and perhaps cloning lisk. The scam is obvious because they converted all ICO money to fiat.

It shows their true nature. The could have sold their converted btc for twice the value

I got a feeling those guys already spent the money. Even if they would start building now with limited funds, investors, we, would still lose big because of their failure to execute it on time.

this Justin will not go away with our $60K and his two fat and scubby wanna be developers. Where are they working now? Their bosses should know what kind of people they are and what kind of scamming business they do. Anyone knows? the 3 idiots should be reported to their companies and sack them! They are thieves!

At least don't panic consulting still exists: http://www.dontpanic.consulting/about

Yes off course it exists. The sole reason it is alive is because of our money which we gave them and they used for launching their own company.
But no worries there. In a few weeks I doubt anyone who does due diligence will hire him.

Edit.
Btw should we leave this Hopper out of the release. To me he seems to be just an outsider hired by a scammer.
He did get paid, but it was salary. Or does anyone has actual proof he is directly making profit?
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 06, 2017, 10:15:03 PM
I've updated the site http://www.scammer dot tk

@Frank Thijssen
Your interference is annoying.

These guys stole money.
Mr. Blind eye presented an outlook which convinced investors to.. invest.
So many months later these guys present investors with nothing. In fact it's many steps back.

These guys are 1 of the most stupid guys I've every seen.
Converting 100% of ICO funds to fiat? Why the hell would you do that? Yes poor management
Waiting 8 months and then turn the plug out?
Dumping more rise coins when it was able to trade (Inside trading is a scam, they knew one eye would need to learn a lot and it would take a lot of time).

If you don't seize your actions promoting this scam, you're guilty like them and actions (at least mine) will include you.


@Porte
Can you or anyone prepare an escrow address to gather funds. Funds will be used for several things.
- A premium press release to make their names be in the black book of the Internet
- Legal work

Strategy now is to get a press release out with PRNEWSWIRE to
1) Announce to the world and every one who searches for
Justin Donnaruma
Cormac Lucking
Steven Remington

Will see a press message on thousands of sites stating they scammed a lot of people.
Whatever they will do from now; investors, friends and relatives will see they deal with a bunch of scammers.

2) The premath of an class action suit, if the SEC result turn negative.



Guys there is a small chance we get our money back. but we can make sure that whoever googles
Justin Donnaruma
Cormac Lucking
Steven Remington
Frank Thijssen

Will see a press message about how these clowns scam investors for over 1700 BTC.

If someone reputable (sr/hero with green trust) can provide an escrow address we can deposit some funds and make sure this Press release is sent over to thousands of website.

0.10 to 0.25 BTC should be enough to make this scammers go in the black book of the interwebs.

Steps to be taken
- Write a professional press release: 0.015
- Sent the press release to a press release website (probably 0.10 to 0.25) not sure about the prices.

I will pay 0.005 of the press release if someone can chip in the rest we can start that.

To get things started here is my addy but I've no problem that someone else takes that over.
1FM55HA2vexsBoe9LtKHJCo2JbtqiWm9MM

For now my sentiment is about getting some justice and pay back for what they have done.

Fully agree that we need to publish press release about rise scammers.

Just sent you 0.055 btc
https://blockchain.info/address/1FM55HA2vexsBoe9LtKHJCo2JbtqiWm9MM






That's right, this is the way we can actually do something.
I got 0.115 BTC which is a very very good start.

Press Release should be done tomorrow/wednesday.
With the funds available I will submit the Press Release. Everybody is welcome to choose their favourite distribution point here
http://www.mequoda.com/articles/audience-development/best-paid-and-free-press-release-sites/

I will have to buy an used paypal account. Does anyone have recommendations?

Also does anyone have experiences with this kind of services?
https://www.fiverr.com/seobuildlink/whirl-and-submit-your-article-to-7450-directories-get-500-quality-backlinks
https://www.fiverr.com/zackcad/submit-your-article-to-top-50-article-directories

I got a feeling it's great for Google. I.e. if someone google their names (to check if they are trustworthy), they will either way end up on our information press release.

Justin Donnaruma
Cormac Lucking
Steven Remington
Frank Thijssen

Will be rich because of scamming investors
But they will also become famous scammers!
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 05, 2017, 09:46:09 PM
1. Just because you don't like what they've done doesn't mean it's a scam. You have no idea what is going on and you don't represent the Rise community.
2. What you are attempting to do is actually illegal. Libel is considered very serious and I've seen people get in big trouble over this sort of behavior. Why put yourself in jeopardy over something silly?
3. You think what you are doing is good? You're actually hurting crypto. I have tried to get friends and family to invest in crypto but because of this sort of negative behavior it just prevents them from wanting to be a part of it.

First of all.
This guys obtained the money legally to execute a new crypto plan.They are liable for the misconduct they showed in spending the funds and managed the funds on purpose in their advantage.

Almost a year passed buy and the only plan is to clone a github repository. No it's not illegal to warn investors form this fraudsters. So no I am not impressed by your threat. Warning others for actions these fraudsters have done (money laundering, dumping rise the day it hit the exchanges) in fact is a very Good reason to submit such a press release Wink

It's no surprise you are an ALT of one of those scamsters or indirectly benefiting from this. Because no investor here is profiting and thus this actions and frustrations are 100% justified, let alone legal.

Are you really that stupid? That we don't see what is happening here?

You and all the others that benefit from the RISE expenses report will defend it till the end of time. But we, the investors are in more numbers and even more resources. And yes if you and your crypto friends are in this kind of shady business, it's better to stay out. Helping scammers is not what Crypto needs. Not today, not ever.


15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 05, 2017, 08:00:33 PM
P.S. If we want to do it good we can also warn their linkedin connections, since they have public accounts.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 05, 2017, 07:52:44 PM
I've updated the site http://www.scammer dot tk

@Frank Thijssen
Your interference is annoying.

These guys stole money.
Mr. Blind eye presented an outlook which convinced investors to.. invest.
So many months later these guys present investors with nothing. In fact it's many steps back.

These guys are 1 of the most stupid guys I've every seen.
Converting 100% of ICO funds to fiat? Why the hell would you do that? Yes poor management
Waiting 8 months and then turn the plug out?
Dumping more rise coins when it was able to trade (Inside trading is a scam, they knew one eye would need to learn a lot and it would take a lot of time).

If you don't seize your actions promoting this scam, you're guilty like them and actions (at least mine) will include you.


@Porte
Can you or anyone prepare an escrow address to gather funds. Funds will be used for several things.
- A premium press release to make their names be in the black book of the Internet
- Legal work

Strategy now is to get a press release out with PRNEWSWIRE to
1) Announce to the world and every one who searches for
Justin Donnaruma
Cormac Lucking
Steven Remington

Will see a press message on thousands of sites stating they scammed a lot of people.
Whatever they will do from now; investors, friends and relatives will see they deal with a bunch of scammers.

2) The premath of an class action suit, if the SEC result turn negative.



Guys there is a small chance we get our money back. but we can make sure that whoever googles
Justin Donnaruma
Cormac Lucking
Steven Remington
Frank Thijssen

Will see a press message about how these clowns scam investors for over 1700 BTC.

If someone reputable (sr/hero with green trust) can provide an escrow address we can deposit some funds and make sure this Press release is sent over to thousands of website.

0.10 to 0.25 BTC should be enough to make this scammers go in the black book of the interwebs.

Steps to be taken
- Write a professional press release: 0.015
- Sent the press release to a press release website (probably 0.10 to 0.25) not sure about the prices.

I will pay 0.005 of the press release if someone can chip in the rest we can start that.

To get things started here is my addy but I've no problem that someone else takes that over.
1FM55HA2vexsBoe9LtKHJCo2JbtqiWm9MM

For now my sentiment is about getting some justice and pay back for what they have done.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 04, 2017, 12:50:55 AM
can we just move on and leave these scam team. We should stop bumping their thread

No way. Not before we make them infamous on the interwebs.
1 press release will be published on a thousand of websites. Whoever googles their names will come to a article how they scammed us.

They will Never be able to loan 1700 BTC let alone 1000 dollar.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: March 04, 2017, 12:48:10 AM
I've updated the site http://www.scammer dot tk

@Frank Thijssen
Your interference is annoying.

These guys stole money.
Mr. Blind eye presented an outlook which convinced investors to.. invest.
So many months later these guys present investors with nothing. In fact it's many steps back.

These guys are 1 of the most stupid guys I've every seen.
Converting 100% of ICO funds to fiat? Why the hell would you do that? Yes poor management
Waiting 8 months and then turn the plug out?
Dumping more rise coins when it was able to trade (Inside trading is a scam, they knew one eye would need to learn a lot and it would take a lot of time).

If you don't seize your actions promoting this scam, you're guilty like them and actions (at least mine) will include you.


@Porte
Can you or anyone prepare an escrow address to gather funds. Funds will be used for several things.
- A premium press release to make their names be in the black book of the Internet
- Legal work

Strategy now is to get a press release out with PRNEWSWIRE to
1) Announce to the world and every one who searches for
Justin Donnaruma
Cormac Lucking
Steven Remington

Will see a press message on thousands of sites stating they scammed a lot of people.
Whatever they will do from now; investors, friends and relatives will see they deal with a bunch of scammers.

2) The premath of an class action suit, if the SEC result turn negative.

19  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: February 28, 2017, 10:44:00 AM
Coinbase CEO believes bitcoin will replace dollar within 15 years.

Read the following news:
http://cointelegraph.com/news/114983/coinbase-ceo-bitcoin-will-replace-dollar-within-15-years

Do you think it will be true? Are you positive towards bitcoin's future status?
I don't think that it will ever be possible to replace the dollar because the government won't let the dollar be replaced completely. They will find someway against the Bitcoin.
And I am very positive towards the future of the Bitcoin because it keeps growing in worth and the community keeps getting bigger.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction on: February 27, 2017, 12:42:05 AM
Is anyone opening a lawsuit against this ICO? I'll jump in on the class action. PM me please

Strange my previous reply was removed.

As it is right now I copied their site here:
www.risescammers(.)tk

What needs to be done is the following.
- Gather information on those 3 scammers an combine it. Can be on this site or some other domain.
- A new domain. A .net or .com would be better since it's better indexed
- Assign some people to investigate on a law suit. As stated those guys are located and registered in the US of A. Which mean they can easily held guilty for their actions since they did not intent nor can fulflll on the ICO terms.

- Lastly we should share this site/bitcointalk thread by social media. So no more victims can be made. Both Justin as the other have other companies and which they probably practise the same kind of illegal business.
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