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2341  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: "Kota Bitcoin" pertama di dunia. on: March 10, 2022, 07:19:01 AM
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biasakan untuk tidak mengquote keseluruhan isi thread!



apa gak sebaiknya ikut di atas threadnya disatukan. soalnya isinya masih seputaran elsavador.
2342  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Hardware Wallet on: March 10, 2022, 07:16:02 AM
Sekarang sudah banyak kasus serupa yang ke kirim ke address yang ditanamkan pada virus malware clipboard akibat tidak memverifikasi ulang wallet tujuan dan bisa jadi secara tak terduga PC yang digunakan sudah terinfeksi virus dari aplikasi "ilegal", makanya untuk proses mengirimkan BTC termasuk juga altcoin mesti harus teliti dan di sesuain lagi dengan alamat tujuan jadi tak perlu buru-buru dalam proses melakukan depo/kirim, cukup luangkan waktu 10 detik saja memverifikasi address secara teliti untuk menghindari resiko dari virus malware clipboard.

Itulah mengapa dianjurkan pakai hardware wallet, karena untuk verifikasi ulang alamat tujuan, tidak hanya tampil di PC tapi juga akan muncul di Hardware wallet untuk persetujuan (sign).

Trezor memiliki tim/perorangan khusus untuk pengujian hal-hal seperti di atas (di Trezor ada Saleem Rashid --independent security researcher and TREZOR contributor--),
saya juga mencari dia ini siapa, nemu blog dan catatan dia, rupanya dia sudah sering melakukan percobaan dengan ledger, trezor, bitbox bahkan dengan multisignature ke 3 HW tersebut dengan electrum

[1]. https://github.com/saleemrashid
[2]. https://saleemrashid.com
2343  Economy / Services / Re: Bybit Signature Campaign on: March 10, 2022, 07:03:37 AM
Bitcointalk profile : DroomieChikito
Forum Rank: Legendary
Bitcoin address : bc1qfj7yh6gu8fwxveqwt5wgrzk5zzw72cgpujr6n0
2344  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: March 08, 2022, 02:42:56 AM
Penutupan pekan ini sangat negatif untuk industri pasar crypto sampai hari ini bitcoin turun dari $45000 ke harga $38000. Hal sama juga berimbas pada harga altcoin terutama pada coin peringkat 100 di cmc yang mengalami koreksi cukup dalam.

Bitcoin pump altcoin dump, bitcoin dump altcoin dump. So...apa yang diharapkan dari altcoin?, mending main judi sekalian.

Masalah-masalah diatas sepertinya tidak terlalu berpengaruh besar terhadap harga bitcoin. Saya pikir penurunan kali ini memang perlu terjadi setelah resistance 43.500 tertembus.  CMIIW
Mengenai masalah di atas kalau saya pikir itu berita bagus, karena secara tidak langsung menunjukan kalau bitcoin itu benar-benar desentralisasi tanpa ada batasan dari siapa pun, malah hal inilah sesungguhnya akan membuka mata dunia kalau uang fiat itu hanyalah bentuk intervensi dari negara paling berkuasa. Sedangkan bitcoin, negara kecil pun bahkah sekelas elsavador aja Bank Dunia kalang kabut.

dan, perang ini saya kira menjadi awal dari bitcoin untuk semakin berkembang, dari sini saja bisa dilihat, walau dibanned ekonomi rusia tetap jalan, malah membuat transaksi cryptocurrency semakin meningkat.
2345  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Hardware Wallet on: March 08, 2022, 12:02:55 AM
Namun sedikit catatan: biasakan setiap transaksi sekalipun di hardware wallet tetap periksa kembali address yang kita tuju sebelum melakukan konfirmasi di HW-nya, mengingat ketika pada saat input address di software-nya bisa saja address yang dituju tersebut berubah karena sebelumnya PC sudah terkena malware clipboard. Jika sampai terjadi demikian sebaiknya segera beralih dulu ke PC yang benar-benar bebas virus.
ya cuma itu cara mereka, kalau langsung tidak bisa.
Kalau saya kadang sampai 3x ngecek alamat, beruntungnya kalau pakai Hardware wallet (HW) kan sign-nya nya 2 x. jadi sangat aman , bila ada perbedaan alamat di HW dan PC, pasti akan ketahuan.

Saya udh lihat video yang om @Husna QA share, disitu saya melihat bahwa mereka melakukan bypass terhadap chip untuk membuat sebuah socket yang dihubungkan dengan komputer khusus. Bahkan itu membutuhkan waktu 3jam 18 menit untuk membaca data RAM dari trezor. Namun setelah proses selesai mereka menggunakan python untuk menggenerate PIN yang tersimpan didalam TREZOR.

Saya rasa memang dia memiliki keahlian dalam melakukan itu, buktinya banyak sekali trezor yang sudah di solder sama dia di mejanya. Dengan kata lain, memang sebuah sistem baik software maupun hardware selalu memiliki celah untuk dapat dimasuki. kemudian kembali lagi ke tujuan dilakukannya hacking itu, apakah untuk kebaikan atau untuk kejahatan.

Tidak perlu dikuatirkan selagi hardware wallet tidak berada di tangan penjahat. karena pada video yang sampeyan lihat di atas, hacker punya akses ke hardware wallet yang menurut saya tidak begitu jenius selagi masih meng-hacking dalam bentuk fisiknya. Ya sama kayak maling biasa.

kalau ada hacker yang bisa mengakses hardware wallet jarak jauh tanpa pegang fisik HW, misal HW trezor-nya di Indonesia, hacker-nya di luar negeri baru saya salut.
2346  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah Kita Perlu Forum Legal Secara Fisik? on: March 07, 2022, 03:31:24 AM
Sebagian masyarakat latah terhadap sebuah fenomena, ketika mengalami kerugian akan mengeluh, mengadu dan menyalahkan pemerintah seperti kasus affiliator kemarin.
Binomo itu sudah dinyatakan ilegal oleh OJK sejak lama dan sudah warning-warning akan ada masalah kedepanya karena iklan dan marketing mereka sangat masive, semestinya tidak perlu menyalahkan pemerintah lagi dong, karena mereka sudah mewarning sebelumnya.



Budi Setiawan adalah artis binomo yang sering kita lihat di media, dia sebenarnya bukan orang kaya karena Binomo, tapi real artis. Jadi ada banyak yang tergiur karena dia kaya karena binomo padahal bukan. Baru-baru ini saya lihat dia juga membintangi iklan dari exchange crypto Triv, menurut kalian apakah itu juga tidak akan menimbulkan masalah kedepannya?, soalnya orang-orang sudah banyak terjebak oleh binomo yang dibintangi oleh budi, karena orang indonesia pikirannya masih kolot, bisa jadi nama triv akan kena juga karena mereka pikir itu juga berafiliasi dengan binomo.

[1]. https://www.haibunda.com/trending/20220301165742-93-268049/pengakuan-jujur-crazy-rich-palsu-bintang-iklan-binomo-syuting-di-rusia-dibayar-rp50-juta
2347  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|​​✍️Signature Campaign|🇩🇪We are hiring🔋Rakeback+Recharge bonuses on: March 07, 2022, 12:01:33 AM
Another question is when depositing USDT on erc20, can we withdraw it using another chain like polygon, trc20, or BSc chain?
just be careful when choosing a network because your destination address may not support one of the networks I've experienced it last month.

yes of course because different networks, trc20 address begins with T and another 1 with 0x and ..etc.. example when you send to trc20 chain using address begin with 0x, that will not support.

Is that mean we can withdraw bnb coin when depositing using another currency like BTC?. or just change into bnb chain?, I don't know how it's work, I mean where the coin landing is, to bitcoin usual chain or bsc chain (BTCB)?.
at betfury you can now deposit BTC with other chain options besides btc.
I know, but BTC only has 1 chain other than that is called altcoin, even has the same name with BTC on BnB chain or whatever.

Deposit BTC with BNB chain is a very useful update, which means playing at BetFury is becoming more relaxing.
let's make it clear here so that others don't go the wrong way.

I know we can deposit using btc using bnb chain, but it's not BTC, we can't deposit btc using electrum wallet to bnb chain (0x..) because of that wrong address. btc in bnb chain is called altcoin. I don't know where I can get btc on bnb chain because I just know btc (legacy, segwit, taproot)

And it's possible that this will come in handy for anyone who want to transfer their pegged BTC from Binance to this website. I tried looking for information on this, but to my disappointment, I was unable to find anything.
I think is still on altcoin called BTCB. the address received on betfury is using 0x when depositing bnb chain.
2348  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|​​✍️Signature Campaign|🇩🇪We are hiring🔋Rakeback+Recharge bonuses on: March 06, 2022, 08:56:11 AM
Betfury have a dice game. it is very easy. yesterday i played Dice on Betfury for $70 of BTC and i won some btc from there and i have able to make my BTC 2.5X in 20 Minute  Cool and i have able to withdraw my btc via BNB chain for some cent gas frees . they gave very fast withdraw.
Is that mean we can withdraw bnb coin when depositing using another currency like BTC?. or just change into bnb chain?, I don't know how it's work, I mean where the coin landing is, to bitcoin usual chain or bsc chain (BTCB)?.




Another question is when depositing USDT on erc20, can we withdraw it using another chain like polygon, trc20, or BSc chain?

About boxes, when we can withdraw it?, I mean how much time? I just wait about 5 minutes but the withdraw button is still unclickable.
2349  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Info] DT 1 dan DT 2 Berasal Dari Indonesia [Bulan Agustus 2021] on: March 06, 2022, 03:32:02 AM
New:
Code:
roycilik
Husna QA
abhiseshakana
Thank you sudah ngapdetin, Artinya untuk bulan ini yang trusted saya full 4 orang (+ baofeng) semuanya jadi DT1. Apakah dengan ini untuk bulan depan saya juga masuk dalam arisan DT1 untuk diundi?.  atau memang harus butuh 10 orang?.

Untuk DT2 belum sempat saya update, soalnya lagi sibuk kerjaan, kalau ada yang mau nambahin monggo silahkan.
Memang agak rumit, ngeliatnya musti di BPIP dan musti tahu dulu siapa-siapa saja orang Indonesia tersebut. Kalau berdasarkan DT1 asal Indonesia saja sih gak masalah, tapi banyak member Indonesia yang jadi DT2 karena divote oleh orang luar jadi sering kelewat di situ.
2350  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Hardware Wallet on: March 06, 2022, 01:00:43 AM
Situs seperti ini memang sangat rentan dibuatkan phising karena mudah mendapatkan akses wallet dari pengguna yang tidak teliti memeriksa link situs tersebut, berikut berapa link phising yang saya ditemukan :
Code:
- https://iancoleman.app/
- https://www.xpubcalculators.com/ (tidak aktif)
Ada baiknya link tersebut dibikin unclickable supaya yang lain tidak sembarangan klik secara langsung karena bukan hanya phishing, kalau disusupi virus di link tersebut yang kena member sini juga.

Untuk phishing iancoleman banyak sudah saya dapat, - [Phishing] iancolman.io - dan list Phishing - makanya saya tidak menyarankan, apa lagi sudah banyak yang kena.

Jika dapat bekerja saat offline justru lebik baik untuk mencegah script "Keylogger" yang dikirimkan otomatis ke dalam database dev (jika web/software tidak bagus) namun tentu hal ini harus diwaspadai walaupun kemungkinan kecil terjadi pada situs terpercaya, baiknya seperti saran agan untuk save page dan akses secara manual dan setelah di proses lebih baik file pagenya segera di hapus.
Hardware wallet dibuat untuk bekerja seperti itu, karena semua detil (seed dan privkey) berada di luar dari PC. jadi jika PC terinjeksi keylogger, Wallet agan aman, keylogger tidak dapat menyentuh hardware wallet walau pun PC/laptop/komputer terinjeksi banyak virus.
2351  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Hardware Wallet on: March 06, 2022, 12:03:46 AM
Intinya kalau masih punya akses ke mnemonic seed, meskipun hardware wallet misalkan rusak sekalipun masih bisa direcovery ke software wallet lain atau ke hardware wallet lagi (meskipun berbeda merk tapi setahu saya rata-rata support BIP-39).
Ya pointnya di situ, hampir semua wallet support BIP39 seed jadi tidak perlu kuatir jika terjadi suatu hal. Walau-pun ada wallet yang aslinya (electrum) bukan Bip39 tapi opsi untuk merecoverynya pun tetap ada.

Kalau untuk trezor tutorialnya ada di sini : https://wiki.trezor.io/User_manual:Advanced_recovery
kalau mau import ke electrum : https://bitcoinelectrum.com/restoring-your-standard-wallet-from-seed/
di thread electrum wallet mas husna ada kalau tak salah, saya lupa lum dicek.
2352  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: March 05, 2022, 12:18:25 PM
I think the Seuntjie is not working with Freebitco and I think I should be the one to report it to him. I tried to login but I am getting an error I am not sure whether because of the jurisdiction or not but I don't think that they don't allow users since I don't see any terms about not letting players from certain country or maybe I am just wrong about it.
the log-in issue sometimes happens if the website is unavailable to connect API Token or They were updating the website. what is the status bar?,

they also have a thread you can ask : Guide For Seuntjies Dice Bot



I just know this on my profile:



Freebitco has already put his brother (dplay and club riches). I was success connected freebitco into dplay casino using the same detail, and dplay casino appeared fun token in my balance.

But, I can't do the same when opening club riches, I have to sign up because I can't a button to connect to freebitco account.
2353  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡8BET.io⚡ COINOPOLIS II Crypto Slot ⚡ LOCKED EXPANDING WILD RESPINS 💥 on: March 05, 2022, 06:24:06 AM
[..] Anyway, are you planning to add more games in your casino? or would you progressively improve your gambling site probably add some bookies? or live table games?
when you look at the site they already adding slots and many. I was a long time here since the thread on page 10 where they only have 4 games slot. but now, they were already developed. I know it's not that fast but the step is so far so good

I still confused about my rank is still jack, I need about 158 POINTS to rank up and eligible to play 8BET free WHEEL. so how to get the points?
I'm sure to get the points you must wager real money. It may come from the free spins code as well but your wager will be counted once you have completed the wagering requirement only. However, I'm not so sure how much to wager to get 1 point.
Yes sure, I remembered getting points by play in real money, but as I remembered when I got 93 points is still between on wagering requirement.
2354  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah Kita Perlu Forum Legal Secara Fisik? on: March 05, 2022, 03:41:30 AM
Apakah kita perlu forum/badan yang berisi ekspert blockchain dan cryptocurrency (bukan abal-abal atau seseorang yang baru mengenal blockchain dan crypto ya) yang legal secara fisik untuk menangani fenomena ini? Karena jujur saya sangat khawatir dengan munculnya artis yang mengusung proyek crypto.

1. Untuk membentuk badan atau lembaga resmi (semacam kementrian) atau (eselon 1 dan 2 di bawah kementrian) butuh anggaran dan sdm yang cukup. -- Di Indonesia jelas kurang atau condong tidak ada  --

2. Perlu dikaji juga, Crypto dan blockchain itu mau fokus ke ranah mana, (apakah di ekonomi, IT, pertahanan atau semua?). jangan kayak orang buta yang pegang belalai gajah.

3. Apakah memang butuh?, kalau cuma kekhawatiran soal artis saja, saya kira tidak perlu, di kepolisian (sektor kecamatan) saja cukup.

Setidaknya ada divisi dibawah badan Bappebti dan OJK yang secara khusus menangani ranah crypto sebelum masuk ke pembahasan mereka secara serius dalam menentukan arahan dan peraturan.

Crypto tidak hanya soal ekonomi, crypto dan blockchain itu luas sekali, kalau di universitas luar negeri ada fakultas-nya sendiri artinya itu sebuah departemen yang mencakup banyak hal. Artinya tidak sempit hanya ke perdagangan (Bappebti dan OJK) apa lagi cuma membentuk eselon 3 di bawah itu,
2355  Economy / Gambling / Re: BustabitWin.com | Crash Game Bonus of 100% of the Deposit Amount 🚀🚀🚀💥💥💥 on: March 05, 2022, 02:07:13 AM
I believe them if those all btc on testnet

If it was from testnet, they should not be in the leaderboard as well as should not be visible in the user's account.
If you think those are on testnet, how about their bankroll? Is it testnet btc as well because their first bankroll was around 3k BTC?
There is no good reason to keep the statistic if it is from testnet unless the site is trying to fool people with the fake statistic.
yes I know, that's figurative language, where is the possibility it couldn't happen if using real money. BTC testnet is also depicted in green in a circle.
I agree with your last sentence, they trying to fool with high numbers. They felt that can get the trust that many are playing there but that blunder can't be implemented here where many are experienced in gambling will assume that number is just fake.
2356  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: March 05, 2022, 01:08:13 AM
I find it hard to use your gambling site, I would like to ask how am I going to use https://bot.seuntjie.com/ for accesing your dice game? I look around and I don't see anything about your API or should I login with my account in Seuntjes?
AFAIK it is forbidden to use any bots or tools for automatic betting or launching rolls.
Their Terms of Use:
Using a bot for gambling doesn’t give you an unfair advantage and practically every casino allows them. This specific bot has even been recommended by them.
yes, TheQuin has recommended that bot in my past quoted also

and I heard that bot is complicated because not many people can use it as well. Also, If using a bot you require to log in the freebitco account detail in the third party (bot.seuntjie), this means all detail has being recorded in the server, so if your account has uncompromised, you know where to make the report.
2357  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡ Thunderpick.com ⚡ Crypto Esports Betting 🎮🖥️🖱️ on: March 05, 2022, 12:03:44 AM
I have just finished testing the Thunderpick site, the detailed review will be published soon.
what games you have played?. I also don't want to know so much, but when seeing you have withdrawn more than 80 euros, that possible you have won a lot, doubling and tripling from initial capital.

Well, it is good that I received more money than expected, but why is this working this way?
Is there a risk, that on the next withdrawal the actual amount that I will receive would be less than shown on the withdrawal page?
As posted above, look fair when they compared with bitcoin prices in live.
from your withdrawal and received is how much time?, because when check that 0.0023485 BTC on explorer in live

Let's see how it's work: (live price) - today time 00.00 UTC - maybe when you withdraw from that time, you will receive less that.

 

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Seems, too many people didn't believe your project, and this means you will behave a lot of work to make us believe you.
also, I don't know why you create another thread where they don't trust you  - BustabitWin.com | Original New Crash Game| Bonus of 100% of the deposit amount
even if you make another thread again, I think the result is the same as before.
So what you need to do is not create a new thread but how can we believe you.

is that true your email support is support@gmail.com?, because that look google have


I believe them if those all btc on testnet
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I still confused about my rank is still jack, I need about 158 POINTS to rank up and eligible to play 8BET free WHEEL. so how to get the points?

I see them adding new slot game such as: johnny-cash, wild-cherry-blast, aztec-magic-megaways and etc. but, those game are locked until you have deposit. good to see them secretly doing development.
2360  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetJA.com | The highest Payout + $1000 Prize for BET Free Every Week on: March 04, 2022, 04:58:34 AM
Regarding the prediction contest, usually each rounds get live on Monday.
Oh, I see that contest is managed by you, I have a bit question because when I look at the contest, I don't see the winner, is there didn't an update yet, or is the winner will live on betja website?, that seems interesting for me, what's more, it can be followed by anyone for free.

Winner is shared in the betja.com platform. Since the competition is not only for bitcointalk users, winners are shared on platform.
Does this mean bitcointalk users who joined and won such as $1k or $1k will get double?, from the platform and forum?

But I also like to bet on the UFC. I was supposed to bet on Masvidal in the next fight, but with the current odds, it doesn't really make sense. I will definitely watch him, because I wonder if he still has a devilish fire in him after last two loses..  Cool
Both is friend, they have practiced together in the gym and both have also been defeated 2x with the same person, Kamaru.
choose the one with the most matches and many losses or choose the one with few matches and with few losses?

Betja is one of the casinos I followed since the beginning (2021), I remembered they give free BTC for those who registered, but I don't know if they still maintain it, because that is also good for getting new customers.
I guess the faucet is currently only available to new players only, because in my account there is not faucet tab long enough. Faucet is quite helpful for new users who want to try this sportbetting
regarding to TopTort777 post above, maybe still be there, but I haven't checked it yet.
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