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2601  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 08, 2022, 09:07:26 PM
Hellas Verona 1 - 1 Milan

this result is not amenable to milan, they were losing and managed to draw, but if in the next 45 minutes they don't try to change the situation so that they have the advantage and win the game. Verona is playing to win the game even if they don't have anything useful to conquer anymore, they are playing to win the game and Milan that needs to win the game to win the Serie A needs to defend better and be more effective in attack to be able to score more goals and have full control of the game

Milan are already winning 3-1 and it is unlikely that anything will change in the remaining minutes. I'm glad that they were able to overcome their scoring problems and win with a solid score even though the game started according to a bad scenario for them. Thus, Milan has one difficult game left against Atalanta in the next round.
AC Milan winning 1-3 from Hellas Verona and back again to 1st standing after one day before Inter Milan lead yop firat standing poaition. Remaining 2 match left AC Milan still favorite to get Capolista this season because lead 2 points from Inter Milan. Still need focus on 2 match left against with Atalanta and Sassoulo for Milan to be champion. I think not easy when next match Milan againts with Atalanta, but motivation to get Serie A tittle will be different for AC Milan.
2602  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: May 07, 2022, 10:31:46 AM
Barcelona is not enough to just finish in the top four, and even though the title is already owned by Madrid, Barcelona's current target to keep winning is to maintain the runner-up position. Also, this moment is an opportunity for Barcelona as a way to avenge their defeat in the first match of the season, because in the first match of the season Betis beat Barcelona 1-0. Therefore, there is no reason for Barcelona to give Betis a win, they are a big team that will certainly continue to play professionally.
Not reason for Barcelona if can't reach 2nd position standing finish in this season after give their rival trophy early for Real Madrid, but I don't see easy for Barcelona can finish as 2nd position place depending with math left. I think next match Real Betis vs Barcelona not easy with Betis want to finish on top fourth standing actually will try getting 3 point in this match. Barcelona without trophy in this season with 4 competition joining and all failure without success reach until final on Europe League and Copa del Rey, could be first year Barcelona with Xavi Hernandez not success yet.
2603  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pajak 0.5% Untuk Aset CRYPTO??? on: May 07, 2022, 09:57:03 AM
Trick bagus untuk meminimalisir pajak,  Grin setelah trading lalu di-pair ke BIDR lalu WEDE ke tokocrypto. btw, wede BIDR dari binance kena fee berapa ya?.
kalau itungannya selisih tipis dengan pajak mending langsung di exchange Indo.
Selisih jauh dengan fee pajak trading dan lebih bagus jadikan pair BIDR di Binance dan import ke Tokocrypto, jika memiliki email yang sama antara Binance dan Tokocrypto tidak dikenakan fee, namun jika withdraw ke akun Tokocrypto cuman fee dibawah 3k IDR. Kalau trade dalam jumlah besar lebih bagusnya seperti langkah - langkah diatas tanpa harus membayar fee pajak sama sekali. Cuman takutnya kalau trik ini dipublish dan ada pihak dari dirjen pajak takutnya mereka akan mengubah sistem perpajakan lagi dan akan membebankan fee pajak dari penarikan di Tokocrypto dan juga di Indodax.
2604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 07, 2022, 04:17:07 AM
The victory obtained by Inter Milan put pressure on AC Milan. If Milan can't beat Verona, then the title will go to Inter Milan, considering Atalanta and Sassuolo are opponents that Milan have to watch out for. Indeed, from the statistics and history of the match, Milan is more dominant with a winning results. However, in the first half of the season, Even though Milan won, Verona had time to make Milan difficult, with the final result 3 - 2. Hopefully Milan can also win this match. thrilling end of the season.
This effect when have matchday later than rival team, maybe different situation if Empoli success keep winning last night but they can't stopping Inter Milan back to 1st standing position. Actually next matchday become higher pressure for AC Milan after his rival team won last night. But become easy when AC Milan success scoring on early minutes and not any pressure again. I think AC Milan have great chance this season if want Capolista but depending next match against with Verona could win or give 1st place for rival team Inter Milan.
2605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: May 07, 2022, 03:53:36 AM
Levante opened up the opportunity to stay in La Liga next season after successfully conquering Real Sociedad 2-1. Surprisingly Levante, the team in the relegation zone, managed to beat Real Sociedad who are in 6th place. Levante still has a chance to survive in La Liga with 3 matches remaining and 3 points left from Cadiz who are currently in 17th place but have not start the game for this week. Surprisingly Levante beat Real Sociedad and Melero's penalty in stoppage time saved all three points for Levante. next Levante focus on 3 match left if want keep stay for La Liga next season and not easy with next matchday have waiting by Real Madrid as away match.
2606  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Telegram Meluncurkan wallet Bitcoin dan Ton on: May 07, 2022, 03:22:05 AM
Itu jelas kalau ada yang mereport dan tentu mesti disertai alasan agar ada peninjauan dari moderator telegram apakah memang layak akunnya di ban atau tidak (btw, saya sering juga mereport DM dari akun orang asing yang saya tidak kenal). Yang saya rada aneh itu pernyataan 'tiba-tiba diban dengan sendirinya' tanpa ada moderasi terlebih dulu dari pihak telegram dan apa kesalahan dari user tersebut.
Tapi saat ini agak berbeda dengan sistem report akun telegram, saya juga akhir - akhir ini beberapa kali report akun yang tidak saya kenal dengan tiba - tiba menawarkan jasa withdraw atau membantu deposit koin saya di market, tentu saya biasa sering komplain di grup utama exchange market seperti LBANK saat deposit dan withdraw saya terkendala. Namun selanng beberapa menit kemudia banyak telegram scammer DM dan ini menjadi penyebab saya melapor akun tersebut. Namun kelihatannya sangat mudah bagi telegram untuk membanned tanpa harus ada feedback dari akun yang bersangkutan.
2607  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 06, 2022, 02:15:03 PM
Of course, AC Milan are favorites for this matches, but, I bever forget how Sassuolo beat AC Milan few times, thats why, before week 38 ended, and Milan still on 1st position, I'm still afraid Inter can shift Milan from Capolista. 3 matches very crucial for both Inter and Milan, 1 lose can be a gift for one of them.

Milan need to be serious to manage their playing strategy, to get 9 points from this. If not, maybe champions are nothing. Well, I wish to see Milan get the title.
Crucial 3 match left for Inter and AC Milan before become capolista and nowadays still AC Milan as favorite with leading 2 points from Inter Milan. Next match I think have pressure for AC Milan because play later that Inter Milan, become biggest pressure if Inter Milan play early than AC Milan have to play one day after Inter vs Empoli match. But become difference when have different result match like Empoli success get 3 point or make match draw will be enjoy match for Verona vs AC Milan one day later match. Still long journey with 2 points different on 3 match left all have possibility for Milan and Inter to be the winner.
2608  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: May 06, 2022, 06:51:46 AM
Levante VS Real Sociedad

Today Real Sociedad play against Levante. Sociedad are still fighting to qualify for the Europa League. They have lost points in the last 3 matches and are quite behind. And that is why they need to win today's match very much. A weak team in Levante. An easy win awaits Sociedad if he can play a little more carefully. However, Levante often performs well, surprising everyone. If Sociedad wants to win, they must play well and carefully.
It was quite an interesting match between Real Sociedad vs. Levante, although the position difference was quite far, both teams had their respective interests in getting 3 points. Real Sociedad are trying to get 3 points to keep their hopes of winning a ticket for the Europe League next season. As for Levante, it is an important point to be able to maintain the opportunity to avoid relegation this week. Remaining 6 points from Cadiz who is ranked 17th, of course, Levante must be able to get 3 points if they want to stay in La Liga next season.
2609  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 06, 2022, 06:29:52 AM
Salernitana is now the 17th team in the points table and they are now out of the relegation zone. Salernitana's performance is remarkable now. I don't know how they suddenly improved themselves so much. They have won a total of 6 matches this season, of which they have won 4 of the last 5 matches. If we continue to perform like this, we will see Salernitana in Serie A next season as well.
Good match result after Salernitana winning from Venezia last night give drastically up position to 17th and out from relegation zone, but on next 36 matchday have crucial games against with Cagliari have under position from Salernitana  and remaining 1 points only. I think good chance for Salernitana if can reach 3 points against with Cagliari will give 4 points different and chance keep existing on Serie A next season still large. I think Salernitana have home match against with Cagliari and actually will play well what showed last night success defeated Venezia and Cagliari become the next defeated team by Salernitana.
2610  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Telegram Meluncurkan wallet Bitcoin dan Ton on: May 06, 2022, 06:19:23 AM
-snip- tetapi ada juga akun tiba2 dibanned dengan sendirinya dan banned secara permanen. Tidak bisa mengakses lagi ke telegram meskipun no hp yang digunakan masih aktif.
Agak aneh menurut saya kalau tiba-tiba di ban tanpa ada alasan (semisal ada yang melaporkan spam, dll.) atau pemilik akun tersebut benar-benar tidak melakukan pelanggaran terhadap syarat/kebijakan dari telegram.

Saya coba kutip salah satu poin dari link yang di share teman-teman diatas:

3. When deleting your Telegram account. When a user deletes their Telegram account, all of their data and information is deleted, including their funds from their @wallet addresses.

Nah pada settingan Privacy and Security -> Delete my account di Telegram, jika dalam jangka waktu tertentu sesuai settingan tersebut tidak aktif (dibatasi maksimal hingga 1 tahun dan tidak ada opsi untuk menonaktifkan fitur ini) maka akun telegram akan di-delete; Merujuk informasi pada quote diatas, otomatis jika ada aset kripto yang tersimpan pada wallet address via bot tersebut akan ikut tidak bisa diakses lagi.

Ada sistem report akun di telegram jadi jika ada pihak lain yang melakukan report akun kita ada kemungkinan besar akun akan disuspend secara permanen, saya pernah mengalami hal ini karena akun disuspend dan saat mencoba log in kembali akun sudah diblokir permanen. Penuh resiko menggunakan telegram sebagai wallet untuk menyimpan asset bitcoin atau koin TON, mending gunakan wallet yang bisa diback up phrase atau private key dibandingkan menyipan asset via telegram akun. Mungkin OP sedikit belum mengatahui resiko terbesar saat akun telegram dibanned jadi tidak ada keterangan tambahan adanya resiko jika menggunakan telegram sebagai wadah penyimpanan bitcoin.
2611  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pajak 0.5% Untuk Aset CRYPTO??? on: May 06, 2022, 04:17:34 AM
Apa di binance ada BIDR?, kalau withdraw USDT/BUSD ke Tokocrypto lalu di-exchange ke BIDR, kan masih kena juga pajaknya. Bagaimana pun untuk menghindar, tetap saja kalau ujung-ujungnya ke IDR masih kena pajak juga walau tradingnya di exchange luar. (hal ini sudah banyak dijelaskan di atas)

Ada mas @DroomieChikito pair BIDR di market Binance dan tersedia juga kurang lebih 20 jenis koin yang bisa ditrading ke pair BIDR, namun yang paling penting untuk pair BTC/BIDR dan juga USDT/BIDR atau BUSD/BIDR karena semua asset trader biasanya dalam bentuk BUSD atau USDT. Jadi setelah trade di Binance dan melakukan penarikan jangan menggunakan USDT karena saat melakukan trade kembali di Tokocrypto akan dikenakan pajak. Lebih bagus BUSD atau USDT ditrade terlebih dahulu trade ke BIDR dan withdraw saldo BIDR ke Tokocrypto dengan fee 2.800 IDR. Untuk proses penarikan di Tokocrypto masih belum dikenakan pajak dan saat ini pajak crypto hanya berlaku untuk transaksi trade saja.
2612  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apakah Token Menjanjikan ??? on: May 05, 2022, 05:19:08 PM
Hari ini harga PYR mengalami penurunan hingga 9.6%, memang sedikit mengkhawatirkan bagi Holder PYR, tapi jika melihat PYR ketika partama kali masuk ke Binance sempat mencapai harga $49, saya pikir sekarang momen yang bagus untuk menambah Portofolio. kondisi pasar sedang mendukung bagi siapapun yang ingin masuk, setelah Bitcoin bullish Altcoin lain mungkin akan mengikuti Tren bitcoin.

Harga PYR hari ini di coingecko.
https://www.coingecko.com/id/koin_koin/vulcan-forged
Mungkin efek bitcoin drop harga Vulcan kembali drop di angka $8.9 dan ini tentunya sedikit agak khawatir jika bitcoin tidak bisa bullish bisa saja vulcan stable harga di bawah $9. Namun saya rasa koin yang sudah naik agak sedikit tinggi jangan dilirik lagi mending fokus di koin baru yang masih hype, setidaknya bisa meraih profit lebih cepat dibandingkan harus menunggu agak lumayan lama di Vulcan agar bisa naik kembali di harga $10 dan mudah2an saja bisa membuat harga tertinggi lagi setelah sebelunya sempat mencapai $49 saat listing di Binance.
2613  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: May 05, 2022, 04:54:23 PM
Betis - Barcelona is such an interesting match that both of them can be the winner at the end of it. Because Betis are also one of the teams that are having an incredible season. This is their biggest success in the La Liga for so many years. And they still have a chance for even joining the Champions League. They mustn't turn this opportunity down that easy. As Atletico Madrid also have a very difficult match against Real Madrid, I think Betis have a big opportunity to catch up with them maybe. I'm just thinking of betting on both teams to score and enjoy the match.  Cheesy

Real Betis have a good chance to close the gap with Atletico Madrid by winning this match. However, their recent performance is very bad. They have not won in the last 3 matches. Now it will be more difficult for them to win against a strong team like Barcelona. Barcelona, ​​on the other hand, will definitely want to secure second place in the points table. And they will play with the goal of winning all the upcoming matches. Since Real Betis is not in good form, I think Barcelona is the favorite in this match.
Not easy closing points with Atletico Madrid although have inconsistent on last 3 match before with Atletico but Real Betis have match against with Barcelona, not function yet when Atletico Madrid losing on Madrid derby trough Real Betis can't defeat Barcelona. Can reach with 4th place depending with Real Betis could success getting 3 points begin first with match against Barcelona, Valencia, Granada and last match against with the winner team real Madrid. If can success get 12 points from 4 match left have chance with Real Betis get ticket for champion league next season.
2614  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: May 05, 2022, 04:47:57 PM
Kalau ga salah, hari ini ada kabar kalau Bitcoin dan Binance akan bekerja sama dengan Elon Musk untuk investasi di Twitter. Berita ini cukup memberikan efek terhadap harga Bitcoin, bahkan BNB sempat mengalami pump sebentar, hanya saja aksi TP membuat pump BNB hari ini terhenti. Jika ini merupakan berita positif, mungkin akan memberikan efek terhadap market, walaupun hanya dalam 1 pekan (mungkin).
Sudah valid informasinya dan twitter Binance sudah mengupdate berita ini namun koreksi tidak bisa dicegah dan ternyata bitcoin drop lumayan drastis sampai turun ke $36600 dari harga $40000. Entah dimaan kejanggalan dan FUD yang terjadi saat Binance membuat good news justru bitcoin memiliki dampak yang lumayan drastis drop harganya. Entah support di $36600 atau Bitcoin masih berpotensi bisa turun lebih drastis lagi dan kembali ke habitat asli menjadi holder sejati disaat moment untuk cut loss terasa berat saat ini dengan presentase kerugian juga cukup lumayan.
2615  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Telegram Meluncurkan wallet Bitcoin dan Ton on: May 05, 2022, 08:28:54 AM
Bisa jadi karena promosi tersebut banyak yang menganggap spam kemudian di-report. Perihal akun di suspend tergantung apakah temporary atau permanent. Kalau sampai permanent atau akun dihapus kemungkinan aset yang kadung disimpan di bot wallet tersebut tidak bisa ditarik, karena seperti diuraikan di OP, wallet tersebut terkait dengan no hp user agar bisa mendapatkan address Bitcoin atau koin lainnya.

Untuk penyimpanan Bitcoin saat ini sudah banyak pilihan wallet-nya, saya sarankan sih gunakan wallet yang sudah punya rekam jejak bagus untuk meminimalisir resiko kehilangan aset, kecuali kalau memang mau jadi early adopter dari wallet baru dengan segala resiko yang ada.
Bener bukan hanya terllau riskan memang sangat berbahaya jika menyimpan asset dengan modal akun telegram saja tanpa bisa back up phrase atau private key nya. Terlepas dengan alasan kenapa akun dibanned saya rasa tidak hanya indikasi spam tetapi ada juga akun tiba2 dibanned dengan sendirinya dan banned secara permanen. Tidak bisa mengakses lagi ke telegram meskipun no hp yang digunakan masih aktif. Bener sekali sangat beresiko simpan asset via wallet telegram lebih baik cara jejak rekam lebih aman dan bisa mengakses kapan saja ke wallet kita.
2616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: May 04, 2022, 10:48:05 PM
Betis - Barcelona is a very challenging game for each team here. Betis need a win desperately as they want to get in front of Atletico Madrid in the standings. They wasted a huge chance against Getafe and now their job is even harder in this game. Barcelona would fight until the last moment for sure. Betis will need to make a greater effort in this game to increase their chance of winning this game. As for my opinion, this game would end up with a draw.
Second chance for Real Betis if want play on Champion League next season and have chance could finish on 4th place, I don't think Manuel Pellegrini as Real Betis head coach want waste this chance, as advantage with home match actually have chance for Real Betis can get one place spot for champion league next season. Left 3 points from Atletico Madrid still effective for Real Betis reach 4th standing place but need win on 4 match left although looks not easy against from Barcelona until Real Madrid.
2617  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Recomendasi Bounty manager tahun 2022 ? on: May 04, 2022, 10:34:54 PM
Tim citizen hanya membayar 30% dari jatah yang sebenarnya yang harus di bayarkan. padahal project Citizen pada saat itu lagi naik daun karena harga token Cifi naik sangat dratis kala itu. Entah kenapa tim tiba tiba tidak mau membayar hak peserta bounty serta membuang token ke pasar untuk melakukan dump besar .
Setelah jamannya ICO jarang proyek yang mendistribusikan 100% token kepada bounty hunter karena kenaikan harga yang sangat tinggi, jadi tim memutusukan untuk mendistibusikan secara bertahap untuk menjaga kestabilan harga tetapi tentunya keputusan itu sulit untuk diterima karena tidak termasuk perjanjian awal distribusi saat bounty masih berjalan.
Pas zaman ICO lagi booming bisa distribusi full untuk bounty karena mereka punya roadmap yang cukup bagus, namun berbeda setelah bounty selesai langsung melakukan distribusi dan selang beberapa hari atau satu hingga dua minggu kemudian koin baru listing di market. Hal ini tidak terlalu riskan dan memberatkan para tim internal karena koin distribusi sebelum memiliki harga. Berbeda dengan sekarang saat bounty hampir selesai dan koin listing di market namun tiba - tiba harga naik proses distribusi dipersulit bahkan sampai beberapa bounty alokasi pembayaran peserta bounty dipangkas dengan jumlah yang cukup besar.
2618  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 04, 2022, 07:04:04 PM
Inter and Milan are going to have quite comfortable games this week. In fact, Milan are going to play a more difficult game against Verona away. Verona are still a team that have a chance for qualifying for a tournament next season. They would play focusedly against Milan surely. But I still believe that Milan would be the winner of this game. And I don't expect Inter to have any problem against Empoli in their home game.
Not any change with position standing on next matchday I think between Milan and Inter face easy team, Milan will away to Verona and I think no doubt with 3 point and Inter actually sure keep getting 3 points too. But I want to see have competitive match because both team not easy when getting 3 points last match, AC Milan almost need 80th minutes before scoring 1 goals to Fiorentina and inter Milan faced the same difficulties against with Udinese and match result 1-2. Now they will focus on next match which one team will drop on next week between Milan or Inter.
2619  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: May 04, 2022, 06:56:39 PM
The remaining matches of the season will be decisive for Real Betis to be able to keep a ticket to the Champions League next season, as long as they are able to maintain a consistent game and win a full victory, while Atletico Madrid are slightly comfortable with a 3 point difference, but if they lose the next match then only the remaining number of matches will remain. the goal that determines the position in the standings, it is indeed very difficult to make predictions, but in terms of the abilities possessed by Atletico Madrid players, they are more likely to keep one ticket to the champions league this season
Real Betis left 2 points from Atletico Madrid but still chance can finish on champion league spot standing depend next matchday have Madrid derby between Atletico vs Real Madrid. Possibility if Real Madrid success defeat Atletico will give chance for Betis back to 4th standing place but need with 3 match left Real Betis should winning perfectly and earn 9 points. Atletico Madrid have heavy team after Real Madrid match they have face with Sevilla and give lucky for Real Betis but still not easy with match left against Barcelona, Madrid and Granada and Valencia.
2620  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Telegram Meluncurkan wallet Bitcoin dan Ton on: May 04, 2022, 06:25:20 PM
Khusus untuk koin TON kayaknya sudah lama meluncurkan wallet via telegram dan waktu itu pernah ikut di campaign koin TON dan bisa langsung menjual koin via telegram. Namun saya kurang sedikit update sampai sejauh ini apakah masih bertahan dengan penggunaan wallet TON via telegram atau tidak. Cuman agak sedikit riskan dengan menghubungkan dompet kita langsung via telegram soalnya ada beberapa teman yang aktif mempromosi link di telegram akunnya di suspend, entah jika akun telegram terkena suspend masih ada kesempatan untuk menarik kembali saldo kita atau tidak.
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