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1301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: August 17, 2021, 03:29:40 PM
Barcelona are going to play against another tough club like A. Bilbao this weekend. As it is an away game, I don't think that Barcelona will win this very easily. They had a big difficulty in defeating them in the last season even with Messi. I wonder what will happen this time. They started the season really well but it shouldn't be misleading. I think it will be a tough game for Barcelona.

Athletic Bilbao is indeed a team that cannot be underestimated, sometimes it can make it difficult for some big teams like Barcelona. For Barcelona
players, hopefully they don't have too much confidence after beating Real Sociedad. Because La Liga still has a long way to go, so many possibilities
can happen. What Barcelona needs now is to play consistently until the end of the season, so Barcelona really have to be careful with whoever is
their opponent.
1302  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: reasons for bad trading on: August 17, 2021, 05:40:51 AM
In my opinion what I experience and saw others while trading the basic and important mistake by traders is they invest without knowing(unfamiliar), understanding, lack of knowledge impatience,sold in hurry and greedy plans. These are the reasons for bad trading. 🙏make sure before invest in any take a knowledge and learn more then make plans.

Because most people think trading is an easy thing to do, when in reality trading is not as easy as imagined. There are many factors to be able
to successfully generate profits from trading, including having knowledge and being able to control emotions well. Without our knowledge trading
only based on other people's opinions or even just following instinct, and the results will be bad. That's why most people fail at trading, because
they trade in the wrong way. So prepare everything before we finally decide to trade, so that we don't do bad trading.
1303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is $48k the next Bitcoin benchmark? on: August 16, 2021, 11:59:16 PM
Our next benchmark will be more than stated price, and on recent price outbreaks we already surpassed $45k - $46k.
If we think of more potential value, I guess we will be going upward and seeing $50k this coming week is really possible.
As the trend goes controversial, people's desire was really heating up to take their gains that's why slight downturn also happened.
This week the performance of Bitcoin has been extraordinary, just imagine Bitcoin convincingly now at a price of $ 47k. This is a very good increase,
it is possible that next week Bitcoin is very likely to rise above the price of $50k. If this is true, it will provoke FOMO and finally we can return to
the ATH price of $60k again. So don't be in a hurry to take profit now, except for people who do day trading, the volatile Bitcoin price can be used
to generate profits.
Yeah, but the OP's benchmark seems to be a very hard to crack at this point, $48,000.

So that's likely the next target, I think FOMO will sets in once we reach $50,000 as this is a big psychological barrier, a usual whole numbers that when we reach, speculators, traders and investors will likely jump again and then wait for a $60,000 or at least a new all time high. Of course, we don't need to hurry, but it's good to take profit some time specially if you needed cash, IMHO.

You are absolutely right that it is not easy for Bitcoin to reach the price of $48k, even now the price of Bitcoin is back down to the price of $46k.
Good news is needed to trigger the Bitcoin price to rise again, hopefully in the near future there will be good news related to Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin
can reach the price of $48k first and finally can continue to rise to the next target. Psychologically I agree if Bitcoin manages to hit $50k, this can
trigger FOMO and eventually the Bitcoin price can return to the ATH price. It takes patience investing in Bitcoin, if not we could be stressed
by the volatile Bitcoin price.
1304  Economy / Economics / Re: Can the world be without poverty on: August 16, 2021, 11:36:26 PM
  Poverty is one of the most problem in the society or in the country. Having a poverty is difficult because of the high population people suffered the lack of supply an shelter they can not provide their own needs cause some of them are young and child who got entered a relationship .More teenager now got affair and stand for their new family so this time the poverty involve on this.

It is true that poverty is the biggest problem in every country, even in developed countries there is still poverty. Therefore, care is needed from
the government to overcome this, although to reduce the number of poverty is not an easy job. The support of big companies is also needed to
help the government reduce poverty, especially with the pandemic situation that is not over yet, increasingly difficult to overcome the problem of
poverty. So the conclusion is a world without poverty is very difficult to realize, but at least the number of poor people should be reduced every year,
if the government can implement the right steps.
1305  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why hoard Bitcoin? on: August 16, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
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That's true, and it has become a mandatory thing for us to be long term holders, because while there are other alternatives to have profits, we will choose that alternative other than selling Bitcoin too early. Later in the day we can regret what we sold too soon, and sacrifice something that will provide great benefits later.
Actually, many people have managed to get big profits from Bitcoin, because the increase in the price of Bitcoin is indeed extraordinary. Even though
the year is not over yet, Bitcoin has managed to rise to a price of $60k a few months ago. So it can be said that people who bought Bitcoin in
the previous year and hold Bitcoin until now will get a big profit. This is why collecting and hoarding Bitcoins is so important, because compared
to other assets, Bitcoin is more promising. Don't let us regret being late in collecting Bitcoin and also don't sell the Bitcoin we have too quickly.
The longer we can be patient holding Bitcoin, then the profit we will generate will also be even greater.
No one had expected for bitcoin to make this big and for those people who do believe on it on earliest days or years are the ones who are making profits as of this moment as bitcoin do
reaches out new all time highs into its price and this is where it do leave out the impression that it should really be accumulated for possible future gains if the price would soar up even more.
Its a personal choice whether you do accumulate it for the sake of its actual utility or would rather be accumulating just for the sole purpose of earning profits which i could say its normal.

Bitcoin has increased in price above $ 60k, no one would have thought, and only people who believe in the future of Bitcoin can finally enjoy
the profits from Bitcoin. People who believe in the future of Bitcoin will not hesitate to make the decision to collect Bitcoin. In the end we ourselves
have to make the choice, do we believe in the future of Bitcoin or not, if we really believe in Bitcoin has a bright future. There is no need to hesitate
or delay collecting as many Bitcoins as possible.
1306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: August 15, 2021, 12:20:10 PM
Brentford and Watford made a surprise victory over Arsenal and Aston Villa respectively, otherwise the other games are quite classic with favourites teams to win.
For today, City to win but I think Spurs could score regardless of Kane presence. WHU should win also considering their previous performance and their recent games.

All the results of the Premier League matches that have been running the first week are nothing surprising, except for the victory of Brentford and
Watford who can win, even though their opponents are of better quality. For Aston Villa only lost by one goal difference, and also maybe not used
to playing without Jack Grealish who moved to Man City. While Arsenal lost by a larger goal difference and Ben White failed to keep Arsenal's
defense well. It seems without the presence of Aubameyang and Lacazette makes Arsenal difficult to score goals, hopefully the two Arsenal strikers
can play in the next match. The remaining matches for the first week include Newcastle vs West Ham and Tottenham vs Man City. I agree with
your prediction, West Ham and Man City should have won the game.
 
1307  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Always pump after sold holdings. on: August 15, 2021, 04:37:24 AM
As the title says, does it happen with you as well? Or just it has been happening with me? Not most of the time, but every time it has been happening with me. Although I sold my holding in profits somehow after sold it start to pump more and more. It's not happening with altcoin only. It's happening also in the Bitcoin trade. I do not regret but it's somehow surprising to me. Either I don't have enough patience or I don't have enough experience.

Does it happen with you? Or just it's happening with me?
it will always happen because of doubts wherein if you continue doing the same way of holding for sure you will miss all the opportunity to gain massive profits. In fact even me i had such experience not just once or twice.. But after learning TA i can see the value of holding and i know which coin is good to hold and coin that there's no potential for long term.. Now i can tell that without knowledge you're not safe, and you know somehow you can fell that you don't need to worry especially if you know that you're at the good coins..
Indeed. It will never stop on pumping since crypto market right now is in a good condition or has a lot of progress which help market price increase again and again. I also experience this after taking profit and it's normal because the market won't stop from pumping even if you already sell your holdings. We don't need to feel bad because we already take profit, only feel bad if we sell at a loss and suddenly the price goes up. I think it helps us a lot if we experience this kind thing. Because experiences will help us learn on what we do next to earn good profit and to know when to sell our holdings.

It is normal in the crypto world when we decide to take profit, not long after that the price of the coins that we have sold, the price goes up again.
I agree with you, the most important thing is that we managed to make a profit and don't have to suffer a loss. So there is no need to worry or
feel guilty for selling the coins we are holding too quickly, usually the price of coins that we buy will someday be corrected. That's the right time
for us to buy coins again that we have sold and can take profit again according to the target we want. As long as we choose the right coins for
holding, there is no need to worry about losing the opportunity to make profits many times from these coins. It is true that knowledge and
experience will teach us how to understand how the crypto world works.
1308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is $48k the next Bitcoin benchmark? on: August 15, 2021, 02:13:29 AM
Our next benchmark will be more than stated price, and on recent price outbreaks we already surpassed $45k - $46k.
If we think of more potential value, I guess we will be going upward and seeing $50k this coming week is really possible.
As the trend goes controversial, people's desire was really heating up to take their gains that's why slight downturn also happened.

This week the performance of Bitcoin has been extraordinary, just imagine Bitcoin convincingly now at a price of $ 47k. This is a very good increase,
it is possible that next week Bitcoin is very likely to rise above the price of $50k. If this is true, it will provoke FOMO and finally we can return to
the ATH price of $60k again. So don't be in a hurry to take profit now, except for people who do day trading, the volatile Bitcoin price can be used
to generate profits.
1309  Economy / Economics / Re: Why would people ever use bitcoin if its expected to always go up? on: August 14, 2021, 10:53:55 PM
I couldn't put the full title in the subject line due to character restrictions, but here is the full question:
If bitcoin was fully adopted into everyday life, why would it ever be used for day-to-day transactions if the general consensus was that the price would always appreciate?

After reading several posts on this forum many people seem to think that Bitcoin will always go up. If this were to be the case, why would people spend Bitcoin at all? In this theoretical time, wouldn't it just be a poor financial decision to do?

Or is it thought that in this future where there is widespread adoption the price would stop being so volatile and for the most part stabilize?
Their are lot reason to sell bitcoin with a short time period. When the people invested their needed money in bitcoin. They don't have a option other then at a needed time.To avoid such things, the traders should invest their unwanted money in trading.It's easy for them to hold, till the price pumped to the new high value. This type trading will give huge profit.

There are so many factors that force people to sell their Bitcoins in the short term, even though we all know the price of Bitcoin continues to rise.
But sometimes everyone has an urgent need and because of that some people choose to sell their Bitcoins. Not all investors have good and stable
finances, so it is very lucky for people who can hold Bitcoin in the long term. Therefore we must have a steady job, in order to have a steady income
every month. That way the salary we get, some we can buy Bitcoin, Bitcoin accumulation in the long term, can make us become rich people.
1310  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why hoard Bitcoin? on: August 14, 2021, 10:29:00 PM
The main reason why we prefer to accumulate Bitcoin is that it seems as the best option for a long-term investment. Since Bitcoin was first released into the market, we have witnessed so many people have gotten rich by buying Bitcoin and HODLing it. There have been Bitcoin millionaires in many countries.

And I remember a person from YouTube named Davinci Jeremie who advised and begged people to buy at least $1 worth Bitcoin 8 years ago.

See his video below if there are someone who still hasn't watched it on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw29h7LhEuE
That's true, and it has become a mandatory thing for us to be long term holders, because while there are other alternatives to have profits, we will choose that alternative other than selling Bitcoin too early. Later in the day we can regret what we sold too soon, and sacrifice something that will provide great benefits later.

Actually, many people have managed to get big profits from Bitcoin, because the increase in the price of Bitcoin is indeed extraordinary. Even though
the year is not over yet, Bitcoin has managed to rise to a price of $60k a few months ago. So it can be said that people who bought Bitcoin in
the previous year and hold Bitcoin until now will get a big profit. This is why collecting and hoarding Bitcoins is so important, because compared
to other assets, Bitcoin is more promising. Don't let us regret being late in collecting Bitcoin and also don't sell the Bitcoin we have too quickly.
The longer we can be patient holding Bitcoin, then the profit we will generate will also be even greater.
1311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 14, 2021, 07:32:31 AM
There are still some speculations about Cristiano Ronaldo. But this time, it is about the next season. His contract is going to expire at the end of next June. And if he doesn't renew it, he will be a free agent. And some sources claim that PSG are thinking of making an offer to him then.

Just think about that Ronaldo and Messi play at the same team.  Grin  Would it be great or a disaster? I think that it could be really awesome to watch the two legends at the same place. They would be nearly unbeatable I think.
Well, so the problem is about the contract as well and if that's the case I think of course Ronaldo wants to leave Juventus. Regarding if Ronaldo joins PSG then it is clear, whoever the opponents they face will focus on keeping this legendary player and not only that, if every opponent they face only focuses on keeping Messi and Ronaldo at least PSG still has other players who will certainly be dangerous as well. Neymar, Di Maria and many more. If Ronaldo really joins PSG, I think PSG can become the strongest team in all the tournaments he has played in.

Rumors about Ronaldo moving to PSG following Messi are circulating everywhere, it happened because until now there has been no sign of Ronaldo will
extend the contract at Juventus, Ronaldo's contract will expire next year. If it is true that Ronaldo moved to PSG, this would be unhealthy for
the football industry. The disadvantage is the team that has weak finances, and also if PSG ends up winning a lot of trophies, after successfully recruiting
many star players, meaning that trophies can be purchased. I hope that Ronaldo can extend his contract at Juventus and end his career at Juventus.
1312  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what are you investment strategy on: August 13, 2021, 10:30:15 PM
My main strategy is to just buy and hold until I make profit. Another one is to buy again when the market goes down. Before buying any asset i just research the ups and downs of that particular asset and then buy.
The investment strategy one chooses should be based on their future plans. HODLing is a strategy for long term investors and it will only suit people who don't have the time to manage it often.
^ The only one strategy is to hold and wait until your profit was there, that is the best strategy that for sure will always be a win-win situation. But the problem is when you belong to the panic selling after seeing the BTC price down it could be lead to a massive loss too. That is why we should always invest in what we can afford so that we know how to have financial management and strategy at the same time. Because in fact, in investment, you should have strictly control your emotion towards the market situation. Bear in mind that crypto investment is very volatile and it could rise up with no time frame and that is the time to harvest all your investment and re-invest again.

If we remember the price movement of Bitcoin some time ago, when several times it was difficult to rise to the price of $ 40k. Many people panicked
at that time and decided to sell their Bitcoin, but for investors who have patience and don't sell the Bitcoins they have at the time. Now these people
are starting to get results from investing in Bitcoin, because now Bitcoin has managed to go up to the price of $47k, even based on the analysis
I did Bitcoin could rise even higher in the near future. It can be concluded that the best investment strategy is HODL and waiting patiently for Bitcoin
to reach the target we want.
1313  Economy / Speculation / Re: The market is not good on: August 13, 2021, 11:48:27 AM
I think this year has been a challenging year for us because we have spent most of the time indoors. While those events allow us plenty of time to reflect and think, these few days have brought about events that many crypto traders and investors may not have anticipated. Bitcoin price of $30k has seen a dramatic increase of over $45k

Institutional investors and traders may have played a big part in this bull run, but how long will it last? More importantly, how ready and secure your funds are before the next dramatic Bitcoin shift begins.
In cryptocurrencies, the price of Bitcoin today is slightly lower than yesterday while other digital coins are trading at a profit. As per CoinDesk, the world's largest cryptocurrency by market cap fell 4% to $44,257 but otherwise everyone is saying that the market will reach the biggest price increase in history later this year.. Beware I think this is very dangerous.

Yesterday the price of Bitcoin fell, but look at the price of Bitcoin now it has gone up again to the price of $ 46k. So I believe the target of $100k
can be achieved by Bitcoin by the end of this year, especially in one week Bitcoin can rise by around 14%, this is a positive sign. This means that
currently Bitcoin is still in a bullish trend, even though Bitcoin's movement is on the right track. Still, the price of Bitcoin is very volatile and Bitcoin
includes a high-risk investment, the price could suddenly fall suddenly, so always be careful when investing in Bitcoin.
1314  Economy / Economics / Re: Will crypto lead to the next financial crisis? on: August 13, 2021, 09:12:58 AM
The growth of crypto is something to celebrate But the impact of crypto on the world economy is negligible. Compared to other industries, crypto is still very young and small. At the moment, cryptocurrency is probably the place where some people can avoid the economic crisis caused by the covid pandemic.
Many people are starting to invest in crypto because of the faster growth in value than other investments. This pandemic made most people realize that investment is very important. This pandemic has made a lot of people out of work, people who invested in the past are very lucky because the investment really helped them in difficult circumstances like this.

I agree that this pandemic has made everyone aware of the importance of investing, so for those who have not invested in any assets. Now is the right
time to start investing in crypto, why am I saying that, because crypto's performance is the best compared to other assets in a pandemic situation
like now. Even many people become rich after investing in crypto, but need to learn first about how crypto works, that way we will better understand
how to make a profit from cryptocurrency.
1315  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin anti-inflation? on: August 12, 2021, 11:18:07 PM
According to many analyzes, inflation is caused by the printing of money by the Central Bank. Excessive printing of money will create an imbalance in supply and demand, which will have a negative impact on the balance sheet.
As a person who really loves BTC, I want to ask, is Bitcoin anti-Inflation?
Bitcoin is anti-inflation in my opinion. Bitcoin is different from the currency issued by the legal banks of each country. I think there are lots of legends on this forum who understand better and are better able to give an answer if Bitcoin is anti-inflation.
this is related because bitcoin is not mass-printed, where the supply is fixed, so what is happening now is that with the increasing adoption of bitcoin, it actually increases the price, so this is what distinguishes it from fiat currencies which experience an increase in inflation every year.

Because the supply of Bitcoin is fixed, it can be said that Bitcoin is anti-inflation. It is very different from fiat which can be printed as much as
the government wants, as a result, fiat will experience hyper inflation. This is why many rich people prefer Bitcoin to keep their money instead of
keeping it in the bank. Because Bitcoin is anti-inflation, where supply is limited and no one can control Bitcoin. So the price of Bitcoin is based on
supply and demand.
1316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 12, 2021, 03:59:55 PM
Mbappe thinks the arrival of Messi might not make him to shine and cast out his star, being a potential ballon'dor candidate, in the last two seasons his performances outweigh that of Neymar Jr, the spotlight and attention will be more on Messi, I respect his decision to leave PSG to join Real Madrid unfortunately he still have a year in his contract, so it is either PSG sell him now or he leaves on a free transfer next season and he had not sign a contract extension with PSG, although I will like to watch the trio of Mbappe, Neymar and Messi playing together as it is now that might not be realistic.
I also would love to see them playing together , and what they are doing and playing when Mbappe, Neymar and Messi have good days.
Have seen also some reports from sky that Mbappe is not happy about that Messi is now in PSG.
There are also rumors if Mbappe will leave that they then try to get Ronaldo , but i guess Mbappe will fulfill his contract this season,
As it is possible with this Team now that they can win all.
I also saw a lot of news about this. Mbappe is not happy for Messi to come to PSG. But I do not understand why he is not happy. We all knew Ramos was Messi's enemy. Ramos has no problem befriending Messi, but it's seem Mbappe is not interested in building a friendly relationship. This is good news for Madrid if Mbappe goes to Real Madrid. Barcelona is not very strong now, Real Madrid may be able to win the title.

In my opinion, before Messi came to PSG, Mbappe had refused a contract extension given by PSG. This means that Mbappe is no longer happy
at PSG, I am confused about the real reason Mbappe doesn't want to extend the contract. Now indeed, I find a lot of news that says Messi's
arrival makes Mbappe unhappy, I don't know if the news is real or fake. But if the news is real, it's Real Madrid's chance to try to convince PSG
to let MBappe go this year.
1317  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Emotions should never be traded. on: August 12, 2021, 09:03:12 AM
- Trade and invest in what you really know and understand
- Trade and invest money that you can afford to loose
- Never follow hype and FOMO in which you don;t know the projects exactly
- Don't play with your emotion (very happy, sad, panic, and others. Be wise and smart on everythig.)

Indeed. All you've mentioned above was great and very true. Trade only on the things you only know and understand. If you don't know more about the other coins then don't forced yourself to trade and don't be greedy just to earn money. Learn to set aside funds. When you want to trade or invest, only use your prepared money. Anyone who trades when they have excess emotions they will not be able to succeed from trading because it doesn't usually use good analysis. When you start on trading it should be avoided and you must also learn to control your emotions especially market prices always changes.

Trading is not easy, there are many factors that must be considered in order to make a profit from trading. But the most difficult thing for me is to keep
my emotions under control and not to overdo it. If our emotions are not controlled, the effects will be fatal enough, we can make the wrong decisions.
Therefore several times I lost a lot of money when trading, because I panicked seeing the prices in the market which were always changing rapidly.
Fortunately, now I can control my emotions, so now I am calmer to see price movements in the market.
1318  Economy / Speculation / Re: The power of Bitcoin HODLing on: August 12, 2021, 04:30:25 AM
I really regret that I didn't buy even $1 worth Bitcoin in the first times of it. I would be very rich right now. But I know that nearly everybody says the same thing now. And as long as people insist on not buying now, they will feel the same thing in the future again. This is like an endless loop. So, it is the best to invest into Bitcoin and HODL it whatever the price is.

Not only you regret not buying Bitcoin when first hear about Bitcoin, most people regret not being an early adopter. Therefore, all of us should not
make the same mistake, because if we look at the history of the Bitcoin price which continues to rise, should start from now collect as much Bitcoin
as possible. So when the price of Bitcoin goes up, we can make big profits. Therefore, buying Bitcoin regularly and holding it until it reaches the target
price we want is something we really have to do right now.
1319  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin doesn't care about Tesla and Amazon on: August 11, 2021, 11:37:12 PM
I agree not to equate investing in Bitcoin with other assets, because investing in Bitcoin is much more risky. So it's not necessarily people who
have succeeded in investing in the stock market, will also be successful in investing in Bitcoin. The price of Bitcoin is very volatile, so it is normal
for the price of Bitcoin to fall very deeply or even rise very high, things like that happen over and over again. Since there is no guarantee that
Bitcoin will recover, so it is very wise to always invest money that we can afford to lose. If we want to be successful investing in Bitcoin,  we must
be willing to continue to learn, in order to understand how Bitcoin works.

I have heard this argument a lot of times that in Bitcoin we should invest only as much as we could afford to lose. But my personal experience is different. Back in 2013/14, one of my friends got so much addicted to Bitcoin, that he took loans to invest in it. And at that time, the exchange rate of Bitcoin was $800 per coin. Two years later, the price stood at $200. Luckily for him, he didn't sold any of his coins, as he had faith in cryptocurrency. And now he is at 50x profit, when compared to the purchase price.

Thank you for sharing your personal experience, of course there are lessons we can all take from the experiences you have shared. That trust in Bitcoin
will lead us to be able to enjoy big profits from Bitcoin. But to be able to have a high level of trust in Bitcoin like your friends is not easy. It takes
good knowledge of the crypto world, and also how we control our emotions when investing, it helps us to be more patient when investing in Bitcoin.
1320  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you worry about not being able to convert BTC to fiat in future on: August 11, 2021, 10:50:43 PM
Actually it's something that i've been wondering about as well, for those people that had bitcoin considered illegal in their country, yet they still invest or trade in cryptocurrency, how can they convert their bitcoin to fiat? or they just let it be as that way? never converting it before it's considered legal again? I'm still clueless please enlighten me. But recently i found something like crypto converter. So people who don't really understand, or not wanting to directly convert bitcoin to their bank account, they can use the service of these crypto converters, ask them to convert your crypto and you can just wait till the money came to your bank account, safely. There are quite a lot of services like that now, and i think that's quite genius.

I have many friends who come from countries that do not allow Bitcoin to be used, but they can still own Bitcoin and can convert their Bitcoin
into fiat. But indeed the process is not as easy as people who do live in countries where Bitcoin has legalized. Sometimes they use several platforms
that do provide facilities that allow people to convert Bitcoin into fiat. Or they can also ask for help from friends who live in other countries that
have legalized Bitcoin, there are also those people who form their own communities in countries that ban Bitcoin, so they make Bitcoin transactions
with fellow community members.
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