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May 03, 2015, 02:55:18 AM
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Does a baby not choose to move around inside of a mothers stomach when it hears certain music?  Or kick when it hears a certain voice?  
Peddle your pseudoscientific emotional appeal garbage "arguments" elsewhere, fool. Neither kicking nor "moving" is a reasonable measure of sentience. A horse might do the same. A newborn infant is roughly the intellectual equivalent of a dog, a 3 year old child is roughly the intellectual equivalent of a chimpanzee.

Dogs are not sentient, chimp sentience is up for debate, so we can say that a child under three years old is not yet capable of sentience.

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May 06, 2015, 01:55:18 AM
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Does a baby not choose to move around inside of a mothers stomach when it hears certain music?  Or kick when it hears a certain voice?  
Peddle your pseudoscientific emotional appeal garbage "arguments" elsewhere, fool. Neither kicking nor "moving" is a reasonable measure of sentience. A horse might do the same. A newborn infant is roughly the intellectual equivalent of a dog, a 3 year old child is roughly the intellectual equivalent of a chimpanzee.

Dogs are not sentient, chimp sentience is up for debate, so we can say that a child under three years old is not yet capable of sentience.

Therein lies the ignorance of science.

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May 06, 2015, 06:51:26 PM
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Child deserves both the above things.

To be born and then to be loved by people surrounding him. But many countries are still against the birth of a girl they simply or kill her once she is born and this is a sick mentality. We are in 21st Century but its difficult to accept the fact that people still have this beliefs.
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May 07, 2015, 05:46:36 PM
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Do you have a family and children yourself? I betting that you dont. Couse if you would have them you wouldn't be talking this way. Abortion is illegal. Any religion also assuming abortion is illegal. Its a murder. Any childhave a right to live. And goverment should work to give a good life and care for every child.
Of course I have a family, doesn't everyone (almost)? I don't have children and have no plans on getting any.
This is where morality and rationality confront each other. It's quite irrational to put even additional stress on each country because of this, assuming the government does what you just proposed. We already have other conditions and events that will start draining our countries within the next decades unless solutions are found (e.g. Alzheimer Disease).

You are wrong. We NEED more children. Otherwise, humanity will slowly die. It will peak at 9-10 billions 50 years from now and then start decreasing. Couse birth rate are going down. When it will happend there is no ways to stop the death of human race. Several hundreds years and we are finished. So we need society structure that will guarantee reproduction of a humanity. That's it!!

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May 07, 2015, 09:50:28 PM
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Do you have a family and children yourself? I betting that you dont. Couse if you would have them you wouldn't be talking this way. Abortion is illegal. Any religion also assuming abortion is illegal. Its a murder. Any childhave a right to live. And goverment should work to give a good life and care for every child.
Of course I have a family, doesn't everyone (almost)? I don't have children and have no plans on getting any.
This is where morality and rationality confront each other. It's quite irrational to put even additional stress on each country because of this, assuming the government does what you just proposed. We already have other conditions and events that will start draining our countries within the next decades unless solutions are found (e.g. Alzheimer Disease).

You are wrong. We NEED more children. Otherwise, humanity will slowly die. It will peak at 9-10 billions 50 years from now and then start decreasing. Couse birth rate are going down. When it will happend there is no ways to stop the death of human race. Several hundreds years and we are finished. So we need society structure that will guarantee reproduction of a humanity. That's it!!

You are right. We need more children as Government is not doing anything in changing the country it will be youth who will make the differences whether its a boy or a girl. And Abortion is a crime That's for sure. So its better that we accept whether its a boy or girl and love them.
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May 07, 2015, 09:52:59 PM
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[quote author=cryptocoiner link=topic=1033921.msg11313422#msg11313422 date=1431020796
You are wrong. We NEED more children. Otherwise, humanity will slowly die. It will peak at 9-10 billions 50 years from now and then start decreasing. Couse birth rate are going down. When it will happend there is no ways to stop the death of human race. Several hundreds years and we are finished. So we need society structure that will guarantee reproduction of a humanity. That's it!!

You are right. We need more children as Government is not doing anything in changing the country it will be youth who will make the differences whether its a boy or a girl. And Abortion is a crime That's for sure. So its better that we accept whether its a boy or girl and love them.
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No, I'm not wrong. It seems like you two are not up to date with the recent news to nanotechnology and such.
The people that are currently living might actually reach age 200-300 depending if you have funds to pay for that.

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May 08, 2015, 12:53:44 AM
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Child are born to be loved. And if the child doesn't get love than it would definitely affect him/her in many ways. Generally Many people are against the birth of a girl and they simply kill her once she is born and that's simply not fair. Girls are more ambitious and successful then boys.
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